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KOdawg1
03-18-2021, 05:28 PM
With conference play starting tomorrow, I wanted to break down our hitting stats to this point. I find it interesting to see how guys progress and regress after conference play starts. Not doing this to bash players or anything, but I do it for myself because I'm a stat nerd lol. I only included those with 20+ ABs because it's hard to take anything away from less than that. If you're on mobile, it cuts off some of it, so just turn your phone sideways or change to desktop mode.



Player
AB
AVG.
OPS
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
SO%
SB/ATT


Rowdey Jordan
67
.239
.769
14
2
2
2
12
6
13
19.4%
2/3


Tanner Allen
65
.308
.831
20
2
0
2
16
7
13
20%
5/5


Kam James
64
.281
.869
18
4
0
4
18
4
13
20%
7/7


Scotty Dubrule
58
.267
.753
16
4
0
0
10
13
8
13.8%
2/4


Josh Hatcher
58
.259
.737
15
4
0
1
7
6
11
19%
4/4


Logan Tanner
54
.296
.841
16
1
0
2
11
11
10
18.5%
0/0


Luke Hancock
53
.302
1.087
16
2
0
5
18
15
4
7.5%
1/1


Drew McGowan
25
.160
.513
4
0
0
0
3
7
2
8%
2/3


Lane Forsythe
22
.364
.909
8
1
0
0
2
1
1
4.5%
0/0


Brad Cumbest
22
.318
.855
7
1
1
0
2
2
9
41%
0/0

KOdawg1
03-18-2021, 05:34 PM
Some takeaways:

-Our strikeout numbers aren't THAT bad. Besides Cumbest, everyone is striking out at 20% or less. I'll take that.

-Luke Hancock is a beast. He has 16 hits (5 of which are HRs) and 15 walks to only 4 strikeouts. That's phenomenal, and his .302 average doesn't accurately reflect the type of hitter he is.

-McGowan isn't quite there yet as a hitter, but he doesn't strikeout a lot, which is good to see with a freshman.

-We've got several guys who are close to figuring it out.

-We're really good at stealing bases. 23/28 for 82%.

confucius say
03-18-2021, 05:56 PM
Good stuff.

For context, how do our strikeout numbers stack up. I feel like we are not striking out that much comparatively.

BeardoMSU
03-18-2021, 05:58 PM
Great stuff, KO. Thanks.

KOdawg1
03-18-2021, 06:11 PM
Good stuff.

For context, how do our strikeout numbers stack up. I feel like we are not striking out that much comparatively.

The only teams that strike out less than us in the SEC percentage wise are Georgia and Auburn. In terms in the total number of strikeouts though, we have the second fewest in the SEC behind only Georgia (UGA- 88, MSU- 104).

Georgia- 16.7%
Auburn 18.3%
MSU- 18.5%
Alabama- 21%
Florida- 21.8%
Ole Miss- 22.7%
LSU- 22.9%
Texas A&M- 23.7%
Kentucky- 24%
Vandy- 24.3%
Tennessee- 24.5%
Mizzou- 25.6%
South Carolina- 25.8%
Arkansas- 29.6%

KOdawg1
03-18-2021, 06:20 PM
And while I'm comparing SEC stats, we're 10th in the conference in batting average, but 4th in OB% and 4th in walks. So we're figuring out ways to get on base despite our bats being somewhat cold. We also lead the league in stolen bases. Those short guys sure are fast.

So in summary, we don't strikeout a lot, which means we're putting the ball in play, and we're getting on-base. Which means the bats are going to catch up eventually.

Rex54
03-18-2021, 07:19 PM
Stats don't mean shit right now. Look at conference only numbers halfway through April and you will only barely begin to see something meaningful from a statistical perspective. College ball is a short season with the non-conference being very different as far as competition goes. It's more about what your eyes tell you by watching the games. Who has good approaches, who has a lot of hard outs, who has command on the mound, etc.

BeardoMSU
03-18-2021, 07:32 PM
Stats don't mean shit right now. Look at conference only numbers halfway through April and you will only barely begin to see something meaningful from a statistical perspective. College ball is a short season with the non-conference being very different as far as competition goes. It's more about what your eyes tell you by watching the games. Who has good approaches, who has a lot of hard outs, who has command on the mound, etc.

Yeah...or you could've just said "thanks" to KO for going out of his way to give us a first 3'rd of the season stat rundown heading into SEC play....

HoopsDawg
03-18-2021, 07:45 PM
I think LH vs RH pitching and vice versa is over-rated. Our lefites are batting better against LHP than RHP. I say that to say put B. Skinner in CF, move Rowdey to LF and let's roll with it. That's our best defensive team possible and Skinner can give us as good if not better production than the LF carousel.

KOdawg1
03-18-2021, 08:25 PM
Stats don't mean shit right now. Look at conference only numbers halfway through April and you will only barely begin to see something meaningful from a statistical perspective. College ball is a short season with the non-conference being very different as far as competition goes. It's more about what your eyes tell you by watching the games. Who has good approaches, who has a lot of hard outs, who has command on the mound, etc.
I bet you're a blast at parties.

I'm aware stats don't paint the whole picture this early. But I still like to look at them, especially right before conference play starts. But thanks anyway.

KOdawg1
03-18-2021, 08:38 PM
Yeah...or you could've just said "thanks" to KO for going out of his way to give us a first 3'rd of the season stat rundown heading into SEC play....

I'm not worried about it. Assholes are everywhere. Message boards are no exception lol.

Rex54
03-18-2021, 08:47 PM
But thanks anyway.

You're welcome

bulldogcountry1
03-18-2021, 09:00 PM
I think LH vs RH pitching and vice versa is over-rated. Our lefites are batting better against LHP than RHP. I say that to say put B. Skinner in CF, move Rowdey to LF and let's roll with it. That's our best defensive team possible and Skinner can give us as good if not better production than the LF carousel.

I agree. I wish Skinner could have gotten more ABs at this point, but McGowan isn?t the answer. Cumbest is a fan favorite, but he?s the luckiest hitter I?ve ever seen. He mostly just hits ground balls that find holes...for now. He?s just not a good hitter. He?s not going to be successful in the SEC once there?s a scouting report on him.

If Skinner is an elite defender, then just let him do what he can to get one base, and it will be an overall upgrade.

NWADAWG
03-18-2021, 09:03 PM
Some takeaways:

-Our strikeout numbers aren't THAT bad. Besides Cumbest, everyone is striking out at 20% or less. I'll take that.

-Luke Hancock is a beast. He has 16 hits (5 of which are HRs) and 15 walks to only 4 strikeouts. That's phenomenal, and his .302 average doesn't accurately reflect the type of hitter he is.

-McGowan isn't quite there yet as a hitter, but he doesn't strikeout a lot, which is good to see with a freshman.

-We've got several guys who are close to figuring it out.

-We're really good at stealing bases. 23/28 for 82%.

I'm sure it's been posted somewhere, but does anyone know what the stolen base % is for teams stealing on us.

Homedawg
03-18-2021, 09:05 PM
I think it's about 57% but I can't remember exactly
ETA it's 50 10-20.

Cowbell
03-18-2021, 11:10 PM
Cumbest batting 318 makes a lot of people on this board look silly, LOLZ

Ari Gold
03-18-2021, 11:39 PM
Cumbest batting 318 makes a lot of people on this board look silly, LOLZ

Yeah but 3 of those 7 hits are against Grambling

BeardoMSU
03-18-2021, 11:39 PM
Cumbest batting 318 makes a lot of people on this board look silly, LOLZ

9 k's in 22 ABs is less than ideal, I'm sure you would agree, lol.

Glad when he's not k-ing he's getting hits, but I'd also like a fella of his size to ding a few too.

BeardoMSU
03-18-2021, 11:40 PM
Yeah but 3 of those 7 hits are against Grambling

Ouch.

NWADAWG
03-18-2021, 11:53 PM
I think it's about 57% but I can't remember exactly
ETA it's 50 10-20.

That's really good but still a little higher than I expected.

Homedawg
03-19-2021, 12:39 AM
That's really good but still a little higher than I expected.

We've dropped at least 2 that would have been out.

chef dixon
03-19-2021, 06:49 AM
The teams that end up winning championships are not usually the ones with 7 guys batting .325 plus with 10 bombs each. We've got clutch hitters that don't strike out a lot and battle. Moving a runner instead of striking out can be the difference in a game. I've got a good feeling about our group of hitters with out pitching as the season progresses.

KOdawg1
03-19-2021, 08:00 AM
Him striking out 41% of the time doesn't though

Homedawg
03-19-2021, 08:36 AM
Cumbest batting 318 makes a lot of people on this board look silly, LOLZ

Look closer. K's and his babip is 538. If the first number stays there he won't hit 200. The second can't.

Cowbell
03-19-2021, 10:10 AM
Look closer. K's and his babip is 538. If the first number stays there he won't hit 200. The second can't.
Oh I agree. But there were people that said he couldn't bat 200 - I just think we need to give the guy a little time.

Homedawg
03-19-2021, 10:27 AM
Oh I agree. But there were people that said he couldn't bat 200 - I just think we need to give the guy a little time.

And they might end up right. He's going to get his shot to play due to the lack of rh hitters and nobody else has jumped to the fore front either.

Lord McBuckethead
03-19-2021, 03:35 PM
Some takeaways:

-Our strikeout numbers aren't THAT bad. Besides Cumbest, everyone is striking out at 20% or less. I'll take that.

-Luke Hancock is a beast. He has 16 hits (5 of which are HRs) and 15 walks to only 4 strikeouts. That's phenomenal, and his .302 average doesn't accurately reflect the type of hitter he is.

-McGowan isn't quite there yet as a hitter, but he doesn't strikeout a lot, which is good to see with a freshman.

-We've got several guys who are close to figuring it out.

-We're really good at stealing bases. 23/28 for 82%.

We need to give guys the opportunity to steal more bases it appears. I understand most of those would be advancing on a botched pitch, but our guys need to keep that attacking mindset on the bases, within the flow of the game.