Aubbie gme

[parabrave]

Well so far Aubbie is shooting nothing but 3s and we are turning the ball over every other play. And since we are relying on Ab stats page they could at least update it to todays game.

[SailingDawg]

I can't resist. As a 50+ year Bulldog I turn on any sports ball game they're involved in, as painful as it is sometimes.

[msstate7]

I love T. Smith, but he throws more ints (TOs) than Peyton Manning as a rookie

[PGHBulldogBG]

Since Kentucky won I am assuming we play them win or lose? I?m not sure who has the tiebreaker if we win and Ole Miss loses. I would much rather play UGA than UK

[HoopsDawg]

It's the wasted, empty possesions that just kill us. Today it is:

1. DJ making a no look pass to no one on a 3 on 2 break
2. Tolu trying to drive coast to coast when every one watching knows it's about to be a Charge
3. Tolu throwing the ball away on an awful up court pass. just unforced error
4. Javien Davis being totally unaware of the backside defender coming over to steal the ball

I have to assume Howland is emphasizing these mistakes but they continue to happen game after game.

[SailingDawg]

and BAM a Stewart three to take the lead before the half

[parabrave]

Great way to end the half. Got the lead 34-32/

[HoopsDawg]

and BAM a Stewart three to take the lead before the half

awful stroke, but he bricked it in. I will take it. At least we are playing with energy and effort.

[SailingDawg]

awful stroke, but he bricked it in. I will take it. At least we are playing with energy and effort.

His stroke is awkward anyway.

[msstate7]

Since Kentucky won I am assuming we play them win or lose? I?m not sure who has the tiebreaker if we win and Ole Miss loses. I would much rather play UGA than UK

If we win, OM loses, and mizzou loses, we'd all be .500. Who is 6, 7, 8 then?

[PGHBulldogBG]

I didn?t realize Mizzou was that close. I think we need to win and hope Mizzou loses so we get that 7 spot. Maybe I?m wrong but I feel like we match up better with UGA than UK. But then regardless we would have arky or Bama next. I?m not sure which is worse

[parabrave]

Dam Aubbie shot 6-23 3s.

[msstate7]

I didn?t realize Mizzou was that close. I think we need to win and hope Mizzou loses so we get that 7 spot. Maybe I?m wrong but I feel like we match up better with UGA than UK. But then regardless we would have arky or Bama next. I?m not sure which is worse

I want no part of Kentucky. My goal is win today and 1 in tourney, and hope that gets us in NIT

[PGHBulldogBG]

I want no part of Kentucky. My goal is win today and 1 in tourney, and hope that gets us in NIT

Yea me too. If we can win today maybe beat UGA then not much we can do with Bama or Ark. Just would be nice to get to NIT to get these players some more games before next year

[msstate7]

If we win, OM loses, and mizzou loses, we'd all be .500. Who is 6, 7, 8 then?

1st tie breaker is winning % vs the group...

OM is 3-1
State is 2-1
Mizzou is 0-3

OM #6
State #7
Mizzou #8

[HoopsDawg]

I want no part of Kentucky. My goal is win today and 1 in tourney, and hope that gets us in NIT

Looking back on the season, the Dayton, UK, and A&M losses really loom large. I felt like we blew all 3 of those games.

[HoopsDawg]

1st tie breaker is winning % vs the group...

OM is 3-1
State is 2-1
Mizzou is 0-3

OM #6
State #7
Mizzou #8

And Mizzou is a lock for the NCAA tourney. Crazy.

[msstate7]

Looking back on the season, the Dayton, UK, and A&M losses really loom large. I felt like we blew all 3 of those games.

I remember losing my sheet on Matthews missing those FTs in OT vs Dayton haha

[parabrave]

Matthews for 2.

[parabrave]

Matthews getting hottt/

[PGHBulldogBG]

That home loss to A&M is still really the heart break of the year. That just should?ve never happened.

[RLM38654]

Auburn is getting so damn lucky

[HoopsDawg]

Big 3 from AU and bad defense from Molinar. Tolu didn't need help there Iverson and you don't leave a shooter. Mental error.

[msstate7]

Big 3 from AU and bad defense from Molinar. Tolu didn't need help there Iverson and you don't leave a shooter. Mental error.

That felt like a nail. Maybe we have a run left

[msstate7]

That's our ball, right?

[parabrave]

Auburn is getting so damn lucky

Yep, Well Tulu is helping out missing half his FTs. Except for that he is having a great game.

[parabrave]

That's our ball, right?

Neal said it was. But this is Aubbie.

[parabrave]

Please settle DSmith down.

[HoopsDawg]

Tolu, don't fall forward on these free throws.

[HoopsDawg]

Tolu, don't fall forward on these free throws.

6-14 free throws for Tolu in a 4 point game. Killer.

[msstate7]

Tolu, don't fall forward on these free throws.

T. Smith should do nothing but lift weights and shoot FTs this offseason. He shouldn't be allowed to leave the gym until he makes 10 in a row every day.

[msstate7]

1 and 1, who can't shoot FTs for auburn?

[HoopsDawg]

T. Smith should do nothing but lift weights and shoot FTs this offseason. He shouldn't be allowed to leave the gym until he makes 10 in a row every day.

And Howland needs to find a transfer that can shoot.

[msstate7]

That's pretty stupid though, right?

[msstate7]

Why is d. Smith trying to finish there?

[msstate7]

If auburn ran clock rather than dunk, it's probably already over

[HoopsDawg]

Molinar needs to be taking 3-5 more 3 pointers per game.

[msstate7]

Was that indisputable?

[msstate7]

Molinar needs to be taking 3-5 more 3 pointers per game.

I agree

[HoopsDawg]

So we finish 14-13; 8-10 for the regular season. Howland gets a C maybe C+.

[msstate7]

Well, we gotta improve on TOs and FTs this offseason. They're our killer.

[parabrave]

So we finish 14-13; 8-10 for the regular season. Howland gets a C maybe C+.

He had 2 good wins but at least 4 WTF losses.

[msstate7]

So we finish 14-13; 8-10 for the regular season. Howland gets a C maybe C+.

Can't argue with that. I will say though that FTs aren't on a coach imo, and they are the difference in a lot of wins/losses.

[parabrave]

Well I guess the boys will match the girls experience in the SEC tourney.

[HoopsDawg]

Well, we gotta improve on TOs and FTs this offseason. They're our killer.

Devion Smith has to get much better offensively with his shot. He needs big improvements on free throw shooting and 3 point shooting.

[msstate7]

He had 2 good wins but at least 4 WTF losses.

Who are the 4? I think vandy and aTm quality, but not sure other than that

[msstate7]

Devion Smith has to get much better offensively with his shot. He needs big improvements on free throw shooting and 3 point shooting.

Does he though? I say play him, Molinar, Stewart, t. Smith, and fountain together. D. Smith just distribute and lay it up. He has to shoot FTs better though

[PGHBulldogBG]

The free throw shooting is just a killer. Even worse than the turnovers. It?s just a major area of opportunity that can easily be fixed by practice practice practice

[msstate7]

The free throw shooting is just a killer. Even worse than the turnovers. It?s just a major area of opportunity that can easily be fixed by practice practice practice

I do think FT shooting improves with experience for the most part, so maybe they step it up next season.

I want a transfer guard that's know for shooting

[HoopsDawg]

Does he though? I say play him, Molinar, Stewart, t. Smith, and fountain together. D. Smith just distribute and lay it up. He has to shoot FTs better though

Yes. He needs to be able to make an open shot.

[msstate7]

Yes. He needs to be able to make an open shot.

Fair enough. I don't want him shooting that much though

[BiscuitEater]

Can't argue with that. I will say though that FTs aren't on a coach imo, and they are the difference in a lot of wins/losses.

Disagree, the HC's job

[msstate7]

Disagree, the HC's job

Maybe so. Was Phil Jackson a bad coach when Shaq missed em?

I do agree to some extent. Howland should've never played Matthews earlier in the year in winning time. Tolu smith though should play no matter what. Tolu has to get better on the line, and I don't think it's howland's fault for the misses

[HoopsDawg]

Maybe so. Was Phil Jackson a bad coach when Shaq missed em?

I do agree to some extent. Howland should've never played Matthews earlier in the year in winning time. Tolu smith though should play no matter what. Tolu has to get better on the line, and I don't think it's howland's fault for the misses

I don't blame Howland for the free throws. You are right though, Howland cost us the Dayton game by playing Matthews in late game situations. I do blame Howland for the unforced turnovers. That simply can't be tolerated. We are one of the slowest team in college basketball in terms of tempo and we turn the ball over almost as much as anyone. We are in the 300 range in both categories. That makes for bad basketball and makes games ugly and hard to watch. Even wins are a grind.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Watching Kermits no talent teams play 100 percent all the time is frustrating to watch

[Irondawg]

I don't blame Howland for the free throws. You are right though, Howland cost us the Dayton game by playing Matthews in late game situations. I do blame Howland for the unforced turnovers. That simply can't be tolerated. We are one of the slowest team in college basketball in terms of tempo and we turn the ball over almost as much as anyone. We are in the 300 range in both categories. That makes for bad basketball and makes games ugly and hard to watch. Even wins are a grind.

Yep I can?t make myself watch it. I keep trying but every time I try to watch it I just end up with a headache

[OLJWales]

Watching Kermits no talent teams play 100 percent all the time is frustrating to watch

YEP. Now I'm 3 for 3 tonight on Reps. Wish some of our hitters coulda done the same today.

[msstate7]

Watching Kermits no talent teams play 100 percent all the time is frustrating to watch

Didn't they just lose to vandy last week? What games do you think we lost bc of no effort?

[PGHBulldogBG]

Didn't they just lose to vandy last week? What games do you think we lost bc of no effort?

2nd half of TAMU at home, Ole Miss at home and Vandy at home. That?s this year. Last year. La Tech, New Mexico State, Ole Miss in Oxford, aTm, Sc @ Columbia. Win those 7 and Howland is sitting good.

[msstate7]

2nd half of TAMU at home, Ole Miss at home and Vandy at home. That?s this year. Last year. La Tech, New Mexico State, Ole Miss in Oxford, aTm, Sc @ Columbia. Win those 7 and Howland is sitting good.

I was there for aTm game. It's wasn't effort. It was crappy play.

OM isn't as untalented as you paint them. Romero white was .97 as a prospect.

OM lost to vandy without pippen and disu like a week ago, so I wouldn't say Kermit gets 100% out of his team. Hell, they lost to us at home with the tourney on the line. Your love affair with Kermit is odd to say the least

[parabrave]

Who are the 4? I think vandy and aTm quality, but not sure other than that

1st OM game And Arky.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I was there for aTm game. It's wasn't effort. It was crappy play.

OM isn't as untalented as you paint them. Romero white was .97 as a prospect.

OM lost to vandy without pippen and disu like a week ago, so I wouldn't say Kermit gets 100% out of his team. Hell, they lost to us at home with the tourney on the line. Your love affair with Kermit is odd to say the least

The point in my whole Kermit stance is that the man always wins with less and he is a state grad. That?s what makes Miss State sports successful. See Vic and Mullen. They weren?t Miss State grads and they did great things for our program. I will never understand hiring Ray over Kermit. Howland never won a title with an entire team of NBA talent. Again, I don?t think Kermit is the best coach in the SEC. I think Pearl, Oats, Musselman and Wade (well he is cheating so I?m being generous) are better. But he makes the most of what he has. It can?t be said the same for Howland. Do I think we should fire Howland? No. But I would take Kermit anyway over Howland

[msstate7]

1st OM game And Arky.

OM is a pretty equal match with us imo.

Ark is just better... way better

[PGHBulldogBG]

1st OM game And Arky.

Agree with 1st Ole Miss but not Arky. I won?t blame Howland for that and I am not a Howland supporter. Arky is more talented and that was in Fayetteville. That wasn?t a bad loss

[parabrave]

The free throw shooting is just a killer. Even worse than the turnovers. It?s just a major area of opportunity that can easily be fixed by practice practice practice

Howland was asked about that a few weeks ago in a postgame pressor. He stated that they practice FTs the last 10 mins of Practice and everyone does great shooting them. I guess that he needs to incorporate the Reese Bobby tactic of losing gametime butterflies. Just got to go find a '69 Chevelle and a cougar.

[msstate7]

The point in my whole Kermit stance is that the man always wins with less and he is a state grad. That?s what makes Miss State sports successful. See Vic and Mullen. They weren?t Miss State grads and they did great things for our program. I will never understand hiring Ray over Kermit. Howland never won a title with an entire team of NBA talent. Again, I don?t think Kermit is the best coach in the SEC. I think Pearl, Oats, Musselman and Wade (well he is cheating so I?m being generous) are better. But he makes the most of what he has. It can?t be said the same for Howland. Do I think we should fire Howland? No. But I would take Kermit anyway over Howland

OM was literally a losing team last season. Kermit took over a much better program than howland did here. Currently, Kermit is winning .556 of his games at OM, and howland is winning .583 of his at state. Keep in mind, howland had a compete rebuild.

[msstate7]

In the last 15 years, OM has 2 seasons. Kermit has 1 of them.

[PGHBulldogBG]

OM was literally a losing team last season. Kermit took over a much better program than howland did here. Currently, Kermit is winning .556 of his games at OM, and howland is winning .583 of his at state. Keep in mind, howland had a compete rebuild.

But Howland has better raw talent. Yes talent is part of the game, but he should be way higher in percentage. I am not that mad about this year, but give Kermit the talent had in 2019 and 2020 and I would bet my house we have a sweet 16 in 2019 and be a projected 3 or 4 seed in 2020. This argument is the Chicken and the egg. Would you rather have a coach or a recruiter? The results end up similar but I would take a coach who is not a great recruiter because you know there is a possibility that you can make a run. A recruiter (unless you are Calipari and get all 5 stars) won?t do that.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Frank Martin is the perfect example. He is a terrible recruiter and has to develop every player he gets to sign, but he has a final 4. The dude is a good coach but a lot of players don?t want to play for him. Aside from this year when he and his team had COVID it was always over performing expectations

[msstate7]

But Howland has better raw talent. Yes talent is part of the game, but he should be way higher in percentage. I am not that mad about this year, but give Kermit the talent had in 2019 and 2020 and I would bet my house we have a sweet 16 in 2019 and be a projected 3 or 4 seed in 2020. This argument is the Chicken and the egg. Would you rather have a coach or a recruiter? The results end up similar but I would take a coach who is not a great recruiter because you know there is a possibility that you can make a run. A recruiter (unless you are Calipari and get all 5 stars) won?t do that.

Kermit had Davis (current nba player), tyree, and Shuler his first season at OM. That's a pretty good core. Davis has been better than all our nba/g league guys in the pros. With that core, he lost in 1st round of tourney.

[msstate7]

Frank Martin is the perfect example. He is a terrible recruiter and has to develop every player he gets to sign, but he has a final 4. The dude is a good coach but a lot of players don?t want to play for him. Aside from this year when he and his team had COVID it was always over performing expectations

Since that final 4, he's 57-57. During that same period, howland is 82-46

[PGHBulldogBG]

Since that final 4, he's 57-57. During that same period, howland is 82-46

But it goes back to the fact Martin has no talent. Yes that?s on him for not recruiting better, but he has the proof he can do it. He has that final 4 at a team that has worse history than us. He pulled that off. I would take 57-57 from Howland if he made that kind of run at state

[tcdog70]

But it goes back to the fact Martin has no talent. Yes that?s on him for not recruiting better, but he has the proof he can do it. He has that final 4 at a team that has worse history than us. He pulled that off. I would take 57-57 from Howland if he made that kind of run at state

Bullshit—57-57 and his ass is grass. I’ll take Ben over Martin—recruiting is huge