Nsd 2021

[TheLostDawg]

What's it looking like today

[BiscuitEater]

Crickets so far. I'll just be excited if the two who we think are 'in the boat' actually sign.

Am thinking we are better off waiting on a 'portal' CB emerging between now and August!

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Cooper and Hargrove expected to sign

[StarkVegasSteve]

Probably the quietest February signing day I can remember. It makes me almost miss the craziness that was 2013 NSD.

[msstate7]

Probably the quietest February signing day I can remember. It makes me almost miss the craziness that was 2013 NSD.

Heck no. I checked out of recruiting since then. That cycle took a year or 2 off my life

ETA... I still follow it, but I don't let it consume me like then. That was awful

[StarkVegasSteve]

Heck no. I checked out of recruiting since then. That cycle took a year or 2 off my life

ETA... I still follow it, but I don't let it consume me like then. That was awful

That's why I said "almost" miss it. That cycle and 2016 took some years off my life.

[Jack Lambert]

I think we only had three spot left to give. I think we were expecting two to sign. Hargrove has not signed but I think he is the only one. Still leave one open. I could be wrong on all that. I don't follow recruiting, just listening to the radio talk. Not Bo Bounds.

[FISHDAWG]

Cooper is in

https://twitter.com/HailStateFB/status/1357007479121477637

[msstate7]

Since we seem to be having an uneventful day, which is a good thing imo, can someone give me the rundown of big signings/flips/drama around the sec?

[Jack Lambert]

Cooper is in

https://twitter.com/HailStateFB/status/1357007479121477637

Was that an unexpected one? If so he should help class rankings.

[Bothrops]

Was that an unexpected one? If so he should help class rankings.

Cooper was expected.

[HancockCountyDog]

Since we seem to be having an uneventful day, which is a good thing imo, can someone give me the rundown of big signings/flips/drama around the sec?

Bama keeps signing five stars, AU fans are already pissed off at their coach for his recruiting and A&M is about to steal some DT away from the bears.

That is all I know.

[HoopsDawg]

IYOK, do we have 1 spot left for a transfer or 2?

[FISHDAWG]

Since we seem to be having an uneventful day, which is a good thing imo, can someone give me the rundown of big signings/flips/drama around the sec?

I think CJ Johnson signed with Northwestern but I wouldn't swear to it ... something on twitter that wasn't crystal clear but sounded like it was close to official ... The 4-star RB (can't remember his name sounded like he was headed for USCe

[Bothrops]

Bama keeps signing five stars, AU fans are already pissed off at their coach for his recruiting and A&M is about to steal some DT away from the bears.

That is all I know.

Bama has 6 five stars and 1 five star transfer. Ole Miss might land that DT. Can't help but wonder what his price is up to...

[Jack Lambert]

Cooper was expected.

I guess he wasn't on commitment list but was expected to sign. Yesterday we had 21 but now it show 22 and we moved up from 27th to 25th. Glad we got him.

[Johnson85]

Cooper was expected.

Any particular reason that he didn't sign in December? Just still undecided then? Waiting on another offer that didn't come?

[Bothrops]

Any particular reason that he didn't sign in December? Just still undecided then? Waiting on another offer that didn't come?

Still undecided, or at least to the public. He's a good player.

[Bothrops]

I guess he wasn't on commitment list but was expected to sign. Yesterday we had 21 but now it show 22 and we moved up from 27th to 25th. Glad we got him.

We have a legit top 25 class, regardless of what happens by the end of the day.

[Bdawg]

I think CJ Johnson signed with Northwestern but I wouldn't swear to it ... something on twitter that wasn't crystal clear but sounded like it was close to official ... The 4-star RB (can't remember his name sounded like he was headed for USCe

You talking about Hargrove?

[DEDawg]

I think CJ Johnson signed with Northwestern but I wouldn't swear to it ... something on twitter that wasn't crystal clear but sounded like it was close to official ... The 4-star RB (can't remember his name sounded like he was headed for USCe

Wait really? He just committed to us like 4 days ago, what happened?

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Hargrove, the 4 star RB, is expected to State

[FISHDAWG]

You talking about Hargrove?

no not Hargrove ... Can't remember his exact name but it resembled LaDarius Perkins sort of ... I know we had offered and talked and he had tweeted some positive things about us ... I unfollowed him on twitter after I saw that so I can't pull him back up

Edit ... sorry but it was a CB and not a RB ... Ladarian Craig

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Yes. Craig went to the gamecocks

[DownwardDawg]

Heck no. I checked out of recruiting since then. That cycle took a year or 2 off my life

ETA... I still follow it, but I don't let it consume me like then. That was awful

Same with me man. Word for word what you posted.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Some indication of a grey shirt for Hargrove.

[msstate7]

Some indication of a grey shirt for Hargrove.

4* with a grey shirt here? Safe to say he was overrated by the recruiting services or hopefully, underrated by staffs

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Could it be injury related or grade?

[Bothrops]

4* with a grey shirt here? Safe to say he was overrated by the recruiting services or hopefully, underrated by staffs

He had a big junior season, but hurt his knee last year and played in only like 5 games.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

It looks like it is injury related. I reckon we will be going after portal CBs

[KOdawg1]

That'll hurt our ranking but it'll work out best in the long run. We still get the player, he'll have time to recover, and we'll add two DBs from the portal this spring.

[R2Dawg]

I don't follow recruiting much, what story on Cooper? Is he a star in the making or just a solid fill player?

[HancockCountyDog]

I don't follow recruiting much, what story on Cooper? Is he a star in the making or just a solid fill player?

I think he will end up being a two year starter for us with a chance to play in NFL.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Our 247 guys even disagreed with Coopers ranking. Said he should have been higher.

[msstate7]

OM signed 4 4-star defenders and Daniels who is close to 4-star. Be interesting if they can turn that defense around quickly. What was their in with Malone (upper 4-star from NJ)?

[Saltydog]

Think AJ Jefferson.......

[Mobile Bay]

OM signed 4 4-star defenders and Daniels who is close to 4-star. Be interesting if they can turn that defense around quickly. What was their in with Malone (upper 4-star from NJ)?


I don't get it with Malone. If he wanted to play baseball and DL why would he pick OM over us? Objectively better in Baseball. And we have put way more DL in the league even though that was under old coaches. Is there a reason we didn't want him?

[BeardoMSU]

What was their in with Malone (upper 4-star from NJ)?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByQVOJ-CUAAkcnN.jpg:large

New Jersey, you say?**


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKKAlAR5Bhw&ab_channel=Carbawne

[msstate7]

Yeah, I knew the answer before I asked, but I asked to see if they had some legit in.

[Bothrops]

Yeah, I knew the answer before I asked, but I asked to see if they had some legit in.

I'm sure his was done before today.

[Dogbone]

Did Hargrove sign with us?

[Percho]

Grey shirt

[RocketDawg]

Grey shirt

What exactly is a grey shirt? Google says something about delaying enrollment for one semester, but are they guaranteed a scholarship after the one semester delay? Presumably it gives them time to recover from an injury, but why not go ahead and enroll in classes?

[HoopsDawg]

What exactly is a grey shirt? Google says something about delaying enrollment for one semester, but are they guaranteed a scholarship after the one semester delay? Presumably it gives them time to recover from an injury, but why not go ahead and enroll in classes?

He's a blue shirt. Grey shirt can't enroll until Jan. This kid can enroll anytime between June and August. It just allows us to bring in 2 transfers if we can find them.

[R2Dawg]

I think he will end up being a two year starter for us with a chance to play in NFL.

I heard on sports talk today, he was top DL in state so he must be a good player. A position we really need more depth at.

[LC Dawg]

My brother lives in Louisville and he's high on Cooper - as much on character as ability.
I think time has proven that a 3 star DL from MS is often better than a 4 star from many places.

[BuckyIsAB****]

He's a blue shirt. Grey shirt can't enroll until Jan. This kid can enroll anytime between June and August. It just allows us to bring in 2 transfers if we can find them.

Correct. I could be wrong but I believe a grey shirt means he can be with the team but his scholly does not go into effect till January. It is basically one up from a PWO

[Johnson85]

Correct. I could be wrong but I believe a grey shirt means he can be with the team but his scholly does not go into effect till January. It is basically one up from a PWO

Take this with a grain (or shaker) of salt:

Grey shirt - does not enroll fulltime until January. Usually does 6 hours and does voluntary workouts. Is promised a scholarship when they enroll and it will (or used to) count against the next year's 25 limit. NCAA clock doesn't start until after they enroll. Thinking a rule change on how they count scholarships might have made this irrelevant except for the ability to delay when your NCAA clock starts.

Blue shirt - enrolls in fall. Is basically just a preferred walk-on except with some sort of promise that a scholarship will be available when it can be offered without counting against the 25 signing cap, which is a year after being on campus I believe. NCAA clock starts on enrollment.


I'm not sure how often these scholarships ever materialize for grey shirts. If you don't make the cut to be in the 25 person (or usually higher) limit coming out of high school, it seems pretty likely that you're not going to make it the next year. Never hear any fuss about schools reneging, but rarely hear anything about grey shirts after they get to campus and I never heard any schools talking about how they are limited in signing because they already used a spot or two on a grey shirt. Of course I don't pay that close attention so maybe it was more common than I realized.

Conversely, for blue shirts, it's reasonably common that teams end up with scholarships they can't use to sign people becaues of the 25 man limit, and you should often be able to forecast in advance when one will be available.

[basedog]

I saw on ESPN we were ranked 11th in the Sec, 5 teams in top 10. Now I'm not big on recruiting rankings, but how in hell does Tenn get ranked 6th in the Sec with there problems?

[chef dixon]

I'm not sure we can expect to be much higher than 25 in the national rankings consistently without off the wall cheating

[Turfdawg67]

One of Leach's highest ranked classes ever. I think TT got just inside the top 20 once.

[Cowbell]

I saw on ESPN we were ranked 11th in the Sec, 5 teams in top 10. Now I'm not big on recruiting rankings, but how in hell does Tenn get ranked 6th in the Sec with there problems?

Bag men + blue blood of yesteryear

[Mobile Bay]

I saw on ESPN we were ranked 11th in the Sec, 5 teams in top 10. Now I'm not big on recruiting rankings, but how in hell does Tenn get ranked 6th in the Sec with there problems?

They refused to let anybody out of their NLI. Transfers will devastate them in a year for it.

[Dawgology]

I saw on ESPN we were ranked 11th in the Sec, 5 teams in top 10. Now I'm not big on recruiting rankings, but how in hell does Tenn get ranked 6th in the Sec with there problems?

McDonalds pays well

[Jack Lambert]

Seems like in the past you go to bed on National Signing day and you are ranked but when you wake up in the morning you dropped. I guess they didn't reranked signees this year to get certain schools higher in the rankings.

[BiscuitEater]

They refused to let anybody out of their NLI. Transfers will devastate them in a year for it.

Doesn't NCAA allow any player out of NLI, if there is a coaching change after they committed?

[HancockCountyDog]

Doesn't NCAA allow any player out of NLI, if there is a coaching change after they committed?

It is not automatic. We didn't tell our signees they could get out of their NLI and it was the right call. If the kid really wants to leave you can then make that call, but the school isn't letting kids out of their NLI just because they fired the coach after they signed.

I don't know why some people think this is a business.......

[basedog]

McDonalds pays well

Well played sir!

We Win.

[BeardoMSU]

One of Leach's highest ranked classes ever. I think TT got just inside the top 20 once.

It's a good class.

[Jarius]

One of Leach's highest ranked classes ever. I think TT got just inside the top 20 once.

It's his highest ranked class ever. His highest ranked class prior to this year was 28 at Texas Tech.

[Dogbone]

It's his highest ranked class ever. His highest ranked class prior to this year was 28 at Texas Tech.

I think we did ok.

[TheLostDawg]

With our transfer and drop outs rates, I'm sure he'll have a scholarship soon enough when we start work outs again.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I think we did fairly well overall. Seems to be a solid group. Really will be excited to see what Leach can do with more of his players these next few years

[preachermatt83]

I think we did fairly well overall. Seems to be a solid group. Really will be excited to see what Leach can do with more of his players these next few years

Next year will be a little better. The year after will be a lot better.

[Jack Lambert]

Next year will be a little better. The year after will be a lot better.

Yes I agree. Most of these guys have been out West and need time to develop relationships with the high school coaches in our recruiting foot print.