Arky game

[parabrave]

Going 3 guards tonight/ D Smith instead of Matthews

[parabrave]

Sloppy so far.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Tennessee just lost to Kermit.

[parabrave]

Both teams didn't get the memo that the idea is to get the round ball to go through the hoop/

[R2Dawg]

Both teams didn't get the memo that the idea is to get the round ball to go through the hoop/

Pretty good D early.

[R2Dawg]

Like Smith starting.

[R2Dawg]

We getting some BS calls now.

[Bdawg]

What a crappy game

[msstate7]

How they gonna stop play?

[R2Dawg]

Our D has been outstanding.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Good two minutes right there.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Looks like we are driving, kicking, taking open 3s and hitting the bottom of the net. Defense needs to keep cutting them off on every drive. Keep it up dawgs.

[RocketDawg]

Can't believe we're ahead by 12 but have 6 or 7 turnovers. Arkansas is shooting cold right now. Hope it stays that way.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Post with the steal. Didn't travel.

[Lord McBuckethead]

That wasn't a foul on molinar also. Who the 17 are these refs.

[Bdawg]

Post with the steal. Didn't travel.

Don't know if these refs know what a travel is. Some were right, some not. Post kept a pivot foot and shuffled his off foot. Terrible.

[Lord McBuckethead]

How was that a foul on Molinar, again?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Don't know if these refs know what a travel is. Some were right, some not. Post kept a pivot foot and shuffled his off foot. Terrible.

Exactly. His pivot foot was anchored to the hardwood.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Stewart gets his entire arm raked, nothing called. WT literal 17

[Lord McBuckethead]

Mathews has a range of about a foot. Why doesn't he just drive the basket?

[PGHBulldogBG]

This game is totally out of control but I?ll take it for now lol I just hope they don?t start making shots

[Lord McBuckethead]

Tolu. 2 turnovers in 20 seconds.

[R2Dawg]

Refs totally suck this game. DJ not shooting?

[Lord McBuckethead]

It is Stewart time.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Dude he was already 1 step into his shot? WTF. 5 second. Damn.

[Bdawg]

Bout the crappiest in bounds play ever. Hardly no movement.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I am not sure if Johnson can play defense.

[R2Dawg]

Here we go suck, right on time.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Another TO.

[Lord McBuckethead]

They have score 8 straight points off turnovers.

[Bdawg]

Tolu. 2 turnovers in 20 seconds.

Won't shoot when he get the ball around free throw line.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Practically a turnover again with the missed FG.

[R2Dawg]

Same ole MSU, we can't get out of our own way.

[preachermatt83]

Ugly

[parabrave]

Get Mol back in there.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Turnover again by post. 2 more points. Another turnover by Smith. 1 and 1 on the way. Wow. Bulldogs.

[Bdawg]

Here we go suck, right on time.

It was coming. We are so awesome against a trap zone***

[PGHBulldogBG]

This was the most obvious comeback you could see. I?m actually surprised we are still winning

[Lord McBuckethead]

Big play by molinar. Got to get 2 FT here.

[KOdawg1]

When a team changes their defensive look against us, it takes Howland teams at least 10 minutes to adjust. It's unreal how putrid we are against a zone.

[Lord McBuckethead]

We just gave up 12 straight points on turnovers. All unforced.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Smart play by Tolu. Got the ball real deep.

[preachermatt83]

First Men’s game ive watched this year. Who is “post”

[KOdawg1]

We are so poorly coached offensively.

[R2Dawg]

Fountain PT?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Then he missed both ft. Tied game now. We may want to change something up on defense.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well no one else wants to score and do their job.

[R2Dawg]

Another BS moving screen call canceled another MSU basket

[Lord McBuckethead]

Come on dawgs. Attack.

[KOdawg1]

Cam Matthews sucks ass

[HoopsDawg]

Another BS moving screen call canceled another MSU basket

THey called a travel on Fountain. Announcers got it wrong.

[R2Dawg]

We can't hit a layup, unreal.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Mathews range is less than a foot. Maybe he should go for the dunk.

[HoopsDawg]

Cam Matthews sucks ass

It's like playing 4 vs 5 on the offensive end. His minutes are baffling to me.

[R2Dawg]

Matthews getting way too many minutes. We can't have Ado and him on floor at same time.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Travel on Mathews? He was hacked twice.

[Irondawg]

It is really amazing how bad we are against any kind of zone or press. We were in full control up 13 on the road in an ugly game with around 8 min left and we found a way to play worse than ark is playing (and that was a tall task) and are going to be down 6 or more at half

[BayouDawg]

It looks like the team hasnt practiced in a week

[KOdawg1]

Howland's got this tho. No worries.

[R2Dawg]

21-2 run, unreal. We must be shooting less than 10%

[Lord McBuckethead]

Ballgame. Dsmith was just pushed 5 ****ing feet.

[HoopsDawg]

It's like playing 4 vs 5 on the offensive end. His minutes are baffling to me.

I posted this before he missed a layup and then traveled. His defense and passing isn't strong enough to overcome his lack of offensive skill. It's almost as if Howland is trying to lose this game. Playing Fountain and Matthews together sure is special.

[BayouDawg]

This team gets worse every game

[Irondawg]

R2 is right - Howland should be fired for simply continuing to play Matthews and Ado at the same time.

Matthews might be the worst offensive player on D1

[R2Dawg]

What an ugly half.

[parabrave]

What a total shi%sgow

[PGHBulldogBG]

I?m not sure why people are shocked. This is exactly what I expected. I?m just numb to it all. I kind of watch every single game and just hope for an upset. At least we have vandy at home for a possible chance to win 1 more game

[RocketDawg]

First Men’s game ive watched this year. Who is “post”

Post is the tall white guy who comes in occasionally. Post is his last name and he's 7'0', and is from the Netherlands.

[parabrave]

This team gets worse every game

Be careful Ari will shame you for saying this.

[BayouDawg]

Wtf. Why do we have a post player coming up to get the pass out of a double team? Why not have a guard come up and get that pass?

[PGHBulldogBG]

At least Strickland thought Ray was a better hire than Kermit so it at least led to us being a 5 seed one year

[msstate7]

At least Strickland thought Ray was a better hire than Kermit so it at least led to us being a 5 seed one year

Why do you love Kermit so much?

[Lord McBuckethead]

21-2 run, unreal. We must be shooting less than 10%

That was one of the worst bulldogs games I have ever seen. Execution 17n sucks. Howland just doesn't 17n get it. Every game, weak press totally ruins our entire offense every single game since aTm. How do you not coach how to handle it? How does this happen for 8 straight games and we have nothing. No plan. No strategy to attack it. Nothing.

Ado is 100% a liability on offense. And I love Ado. When mathews and ado is on the court, we are playing 5 versus 3 on offense. We need players that can contribute on both sides of the court. If that is Fountain, so be it.

I would rather see Post and Ado out there than Mathews.

And Howland needs to start acting a fool on some of these calls. Post, DID NOT, travel. DSmith gets shoved 5 feet on a drive to end the half, nothing. He should have a technical by now. Time to show some fire. If not, retire.

[msstate7]

I?m not sure why people are shocked. This is exactly what I expected. I?m just numb to it all. I kind of watch every single game and just hope for an upset. At least we have vandy at home for a possible chance to win 1 more game

1 more win, huh? You've become a clown

[confucius say]

Wtf. Why do we have a post player coming up to get the pass out of a double team? Why not have a guard come up and get that pass?

Thank you. They are doubling our PG at half court. Get tolu down low and make that double come off of DJ. We will score every time

[Lord McBuckethead]

Being TALL is not an automatic travel.

[BiscuitEater]

Cam Matthews sucks ass

I don't see why State just just go ahead and play with four! Matthews is killing his own team. Missed a two foot layup! Hasn't made a FT since December!

[Lord McBuckethead]

Thank you. They are doubling our PG at half court. Get tolu down low and make that double come off of DJ. We will score every time

We will get Stwert a look everytime if we did.

[BayouDawg]

I mean all Arkansas is doing is doubling using the post defender. Instead of bringing the unguarded post player up to get the pass leave him down on the block and have everyone else above the free throw line extended. Make Arkansas choose to either leave the post unguarded or a person on the perimeter. Just bringing the unguarded post player out to get the pass gets you nowhere and is just lazy coaching.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I don't see why State just just go ahead and play with four! Matthews is killing his own team. Missed a two foot layup! Hasn't made a FT since December!

Dude is shooting like 8% from the line. I want to see him granny shoot it. Can't be any worse. Seriously.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I am just thankful that half ended and we only let them go on a 22-2 run to end the half. Or whatever it was.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Why do you love Kermit so much?

Because he has proven at MTSU and Ole Miss that he can do more with less and he is an MSU alum. His talent is worse than ours but consistently beats Howland. Do you really think if Kermit had our talent he would have this same record? He would?ve taken last years team to a sweet 16 or elite 8.

[parabrave]

Mol has only taken 1 shot. That is a WTF stat.

[R2Dawg]

That was one of the worst bulldogs games I have ever seen. Execution 17n sucks. Howland just doesn't 17n get it. Every game, weak press totally ruins our entire offense every single game since aTm. How do you not coach how to handle it? How does this happen for 8 straight games and we have nothing. No plan. No strategy to attack it. Nothing.

Ado is 100% a liability on offense. And I love Ado. When mathews and ado is on the court, we are playing 5 versus 3 on offense. We need players that can contribute on both sides of the court. If that is Fountain, so be it.

I would rather see Post and Ado out there than Mathews.

And Howland needs to start acting a fool on some of these calls. Post, DID NOT, travel. DSmith gets shoved 5 feet on a drive to end the half, nothing. He should have a technical by now. Time to show some fire. If not, retire.

I want to see Howland get a technical. We have been abused by refs in first half. Howland takes too much from refs all the time and refs know they can push him around.

[msstate7]

Because he has proven at MTSU and Ole Miss that he can do more with less and he is an MSU alum. His talent is worse than ours but consistently beats Howland. Do you really think if Kermit had our talent he would have this same record? He would?ve taken last years team to a sweet 16 or elite 8.

Kermit is 24-25 (10-18 sec) the last 2 years. Includes tonight's win

[HoopsDawg]

Mol has only taken 1 shot. That is a WTF stat.

He only played 12 minutes due to 2 fouls. Hopefully he plays all 20 of the 2nd half.

[R2Dawg]

Smith took too many shots. He played OK and dished ball out a lot but rarely was it DJ or Molinar getting the pass, always a big man for some reason at 21 ft from basket?

[PGHBulldogBG]

Kermit is 24-25 (10-18 sec) the last 2 years. Includes tonight's win

With literally nothing to work with. His first year he came in and took over a team that had some talent but gave up on Kennedy. Comparing Howlands 4 and 5 stars to Kermits no talent team is not comparable.

[msstate7]

We gotta win rebounds to win this

[KOdawg1]

ZERO points off 10 turnovers. You have to try to be that bad.

[msstate7]

With literally nothing to work with. His first year he came in and took over a team that had some talent but gave up on Kennedy. Comparing Howlands 4 and 5 stars to Kermits no talent team is not comparable.

Why hasn't Kermit got his own?

[BeardoMSU]

Because he has proven at MTSU and Ole Miss that he can do more with less and he is an MSU alum. His talent is worse than ours but consistently beats Howland. Do you really think if Kermit had our talent he would have this same record? He would?ve taken last years team to a sweet 16 or elite 8.

No.

[Cowbell]

I?m not sure why people are shocked. This is exactly what I expected. I?m just numb to it all. I kind of watch every single game and just hope for an upset. At least we have vandy at home for a possible chance to win 1 more game
It is amazing that people still get their hopes up.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Because he has proven at MTSU and Ole Miss that he can do more with less and he is an MSU alum. His talent is worse than ours but consistently beats Howland. Do you really think if Kermit had our talent he would have this same record? He would?ve taken last years team to a sweet 16 or elite 8.

Bingo.

[HoopsDawg]

Easy kick out for DJ to Molinar and DJ makes the selfish play and gets a charge. Awful. Those are the things that get you beat.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well. Coming out the half. Still no plan on how to attack the press.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Can we please, once this damn season play for the drive and kickout?

[msstate7]

I don't cry about officiating, but I feel like ark reaches in like every possession while we get called for it

[PGHBulldogBG]

Why hasn't Kermit got his own?

I will fully admit Kermit is not a great recruiter, but he is only in year 3. Wouldn?t you rather have a coach though that maximizes his talent every game vs a coach that has no idea X and O wise what he is doing? If I recall correctly in football you feel this way as we both think Clawson and Brown would?ve been the best choices for Miss State? I?m not sure why this is different in basketball

[HoopsDawg]

This is mind numbing.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Down 8. 3 fouls already.

[R2Dawg]

DJ having a terrible game.

[BayouDawg]

Im not on the fire howland bandwagon but anyone with eyes can see this is just an atrocious coaching job and inexcusable.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Down 10. 3 second violation?

[R2Dawg]

I don't cry about officiating, but I feel like ark reaches in like every possession while we get called for it

That is fact, ridiculous.

[Lord McBuckethead]

4 fouls down 10

[R2Dawg]

33-6 run

[HoopsDawg]

Now we have Post, Davis, and Matthews in together. Howland is just throwing darts.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Im not on the fire howland bandwagon but anyone with eyes can see this is just an atrocious coaching job and inexcusable.

I also am not on the fire Howland bandwagon, but how do they not know how to break a weak soft press. How do we not know pur lineup yet?

[R2Dawg]

I don't want Cohen hiring any more coaches but dang we must do something. Our MBB program can be good.

[msugolf]

Yeah this team has soooo much potential for next year

[Lord McBuckethead]

Now we have Post, Davis, and Matthews in together. Howland is just throwing darts.

Might as well put in the group that ended the game against Iowa. 33-6 run.

I would tell DJ and Milinar to start setting a screen and jack a three.

[HoopsDawg]

33-6 run

I wonder if the people in this thread are the only MSU fans watching this game. It's basically S&M at this point.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Did Ray even have a 33-6 run against him?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Down 14.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Did Ray even have a 33-6 run against him?

I would imagine. I kind of wish we had Chicken on this team. Loved that dude.

[msstate7]

DJ having a terrible game.

He has amazing potential, but he really does have some bad games. Lots of games sub 40% shooting. He's too good of a shooter to have these type games

[HoopsDawg]

Might as well put in the group that ended the game against Iowa. 33-6 run.

I would tell DJ and Milinar to start setting a screen and jack a three.

Molinar with zero 3 point attempts. He's shooting 51% from 3 this season. So that's criminal.

[msstate7]

Now we have Post, Davis, and Matthews in together. Howland is just throwing darts.

I hate this lineup, but I really don't know where you go. We just can't shoot tonight

[Lord McBuckethead]

Down 14 with 12 minutes remaining.

[R2Dawg]

I would imagine. I kind of wish we had Chicken on this team. Loved that dude.

Chicken could flat play.

[HoopsDawg]

He has amazing potential, but he really does have some bad games. Lots of games sub 40% shooting. He's too good of a shooter to have these type games

He's a number 3 option on a really good team. He's the number 1 option on our team though it should be Molinar.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I hate this lineup, but I really don't know where you go. We just can't shoot tonight

Shoot? We haven't even taken that many shots, and when we do they are step back man in your face looks. DJ had a look, but the pass was not clean and it took him out of his stride. On and on and on.

[HoopsDawg]

I hate this lineup, but I really don't know where you go. We just can't shoot tonight

Not playing 10 guys would be a start. Not playing Matthews would be another.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Chicken could flat play.

He wasn't a dominator, but dude did a lot with zero supporting cast.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Chicken could flat play.

Me too! I would take chicken any day. He played with heart and effort every game! I will always say as bad as Ray was with recruiter and a lot of coaching. He got 100 percent out of the nothing raw talent he had.

[Lord McBuckethead]

He has amazing potential, but he really does have some bad games. Lots of games sub 40% shooting. He's too good of a shooter to have these type games

Again, we never run an offensive strategy to maximize him or Molinor.

[msstate7]

That was pretty weak foul call

[Lord McBuckethead]

Again, how isntheir tall white dude outplaying all of our bigs. Dude looks like he is missing 4 chromosome

[msstate7]

TO, and go with

Molinar
Stewart
Johnson
T. Smith
Ado

[HoopsDawg]

DJ quit handling the ball!! Get it to Molinar.

[RougeDawg]

I hate this lineup, but I really don't know where you go. We just can't shoot tonight

Shoot tonight? With this display, I?m astonished that they were able to even wake up, put their clothes on, and feed themselves. Basketball is secondary to basic survival instincts. Holy shit. This is the worst game I?ve ever watched.

I just hope we have enough staff and pads after the game, to help this cirrus get on the plane without doing harm to themselves. They need to walk their asses back after this. Only thing is they?d probably end up in Wyoming if they walked.

[Lord McBuckethead]

That was a damn stupid weak foul. Refs got to get them to the bonus.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Turnover 20 and 21 were fun.

[R2Dawg]

Jalen Johnson is only good for one thing. Hurts us in every other way.

[PGHBulldogBG]

DeVries! Get him before it?s too late

[Lord McBuckethead]

How does smith get the foul. He touched the ball first.

[HoopsDawg]

This is one of the worst and most embarrassing performances of the Howland era. I'm signing off guys.

[R2Dawg]

That was a damn stupid weak foul. Refs got to get them to the bonus.

Yep we playin in Ark

[bostondawg]

Leave Howland in Fayetteville.

[Lord McBuckethead]

White guy just hooked the hell out of Post.

[R2Dawg]

We look like Ned and first reader.

[Lord McBuckethead]

16 points. 13 minutes left.

Told you guys this game was over with 3 minutes left in the 1st half. The second they started the weak press. Our coaching staff and players are 17n retarded. How do they not know how to attack it.

By the way, our defense isn't doing crap right now either.

Johnson, the shooter, missed another FT.

[BayouDawg]

I havent seen this poor of a performance since probably the 2010 game against Tennessee on senior day. We had a loaded team and didnt score a basket for the first 9 minutes.

[confucius say]

College basketball as a product is damn near unwatchable.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Shit, let Post bring it up the floor. The only one out there hustling.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I really wish Post would just go flippin crazy put there. Just decide no one is getting a shot off near the basket without getting shit sent into the 3 row.

Can we have one guy just say, no mother 17ers. And ball out?

[confucius say]

That's not a jump ball

[Lord McBuckethead]

Post needs to wake up. Set a 17n tone.

[msstate7]

College basketball as a product is damn near unwatchable.

It has fallen along way since the 90s with big east Monday. God, I lived college basketball back then

[Lord McBuckethead]

How the hell was that a jump ball. Our dude had it.

[confucius say]

Johnson is going to shoot it every time.
Post just about every timw

[Lord McBuckethead]

Cam we play a zone or a full court press?

[Lord McBuckethead]

I wish Molinor would shoot it every time.

[confucius say]

It has fallen along way since the 90s with big east Monday. God, I lived college basketball back then

Same

[BayouDawg]

I will say I?m impressed with the fight right now. We may have dug ourselves too deep of a hole but theyre still fighting

[msstate7]

T. Smith just got sexually assaulted on that ark rebound

[Lord McBuckethead]

Down 10 with 11 left. Still a shit ton of time.

[parabrave]

Well we are trying a run.

[RougeDawg]

Why do our players the last 10-15 years not have a f*cking clue where rebounds are most likely to end up? It?s a joke. Long three misses most likely go directly back into the direction in which they were shot. As much basketball as they play you?d think at some point that would click. But it never does for us. Simply hard to watch braindead basketball teams. And that?s what we?ve seen for many years. Amoeba IQ basketball is MSU.

[Lord McBuckethead]

7 down, 8:55 left.

[confucius say]

Give fountain Johnson's minutes. Most of cams too.

[Lord McBuckethead]

That ball never went out of bounds.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I guess it did. White dude 17n us.

[msstate7]

You've got to get Molinar and Stewart out there together, and they have to play the whole game

[parabrave]

Well that was a quick run.

[R2Dawg]

Molinar had a bad game.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Ado is getting worked. Moving without the ball. Wow, what a concept.

[BayouDawg]

Well now weve gone full retard again and mol couldn?t throw it in the ocean tonight.

[RougeDawg]

I will say I?m impressed with the fight right now. We may have dug ourselves too deep of a hole but theyre still fighting

Fight my ass. A wet paper bag would be whipping us right now.

[R2Dawg]

You've got to get Molinar and Stewart out there together, and they have to play the whole game

He has sat both of them way too much tonight.

[confucius say]

Anybody know what we are shooting percentage wise tonight?

[BayouDawg]

Fight my ass. A wet paper bag would be whipping us right now.

Just as I typed that we went full retard again

[Lord McBuckethead]

My lineup for the rest of the game.
Molinar
Stewert
Fountain
Tolu
Post

Look to drive and kick. Stewert to shoot until he starts making them. Molinar pull up jumpers until he starts making them. Fountain on kickout only. Defense 100% zone.

[R2Dawg]

Anybody know what we are shooting percentage wise tonight?

Not sure but it is real bad

[msstate7]

I hope post is watching this white guy play. That big dude is looking to score down low and pass. Post just wants to shoot 3s

[Lord McBuckethead]

Anybody know what we are shooting percentage wise tonight?

27% i would imagine. Include the 24 turnovers and we would be at around 10%

[Lord McBuckethead]

12 down 6:46

[R2Dawg]

Another BS charge call. Get a T Howland. The team needs to see him fight for them.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Down 12 6:14

[BayouDawg]

Can we shut down the rest of our season. Turning it over 25 times just screams dont give a shit.

[Lord McBuckethead]

That charge is retarded.

[Lord McBuckethead]

5:36 down 12.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Fountain, dude could be something.

[R2Dawg]

Not good effort down the stretch. We not playing like a team hungry. Worst effort I've seen all year. Sure the not hitting shots has taken its toll. Basketball can do that to you.

[maroonmania]

Howland's offense is in the Stone Age. Under 4 minutes to go and State only has 40 points against a weak defensive team.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Keep shooting Fountain.
Teams have figured out you can just blow by Johnson.

[confucius say]

I think we are now under 20% shooting

[BayouDawg]

Our offense has looked like a Chinese fire drill tonight. It usually looks like we are at least trying to run a set even though it usually sucks. Tonight its just 5 guys doing their own thing.

[R2Dawg]

Fountain, dude could be something.

He is raw but has potential.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Then, no one decides to get back on defense.

[parabrave]

Mol only taking 4 FGs is just plain inexcusable.

[R2Dawg]

Ark another team that is OK but not great.

[parabrave]

I think we are now under 20% shooting

30% but there is still 5 mins left.

[msstate7]

Molinar and Stewart are 5/14 shooting combined. We aren't winning anything with those 2 only shooting 14 times in a game. Fountain and post have 11 shots combined. These 2 pair of players should never have almost equal shots. Howland should've never let this happen. Take some green lights from some guys, and tell Molinar and Stewart to be hogs

[R2Dawg]

Molinar and Stewart are 5/14 shooting combined. We aren't winning anything with those 2 only shooting 14 times in a game. Fountain and post have 11 shots combined. These 2 pair of players should never have almost equal shots. Howland should've never let this happen. Take some green lights from some guys, and tell Molinar and Stewart to be hogs

That stat tells you all you need to know, well that and 26 TO

[maroonmania]

Molinar and Stewart are 5/14 shooting combined. We aren't winning anything with those 2 only shooting 14 times in a game. Fountain and post have 11 shots combined. These 2 pair of players should never have almost equal shots. Howland should've never let this happen. Take some green lights from some guys, and tell Molinar and Stewart to be hogs

Howland doesn't really have a clue about what we should or shouldn't do on the offensive end. After 6 years that's become pretty obvious.

[RezDog7]

We should quit attempting to play basketball.

[Bothrops]

Y'all are still watching our basketball games?

[msstate7]

D. Smith got his first sec start, and he just completely imploded. Give him another start Saturday, howland. I think smith will be fine

[PGHBulldogBG]

We only lost by 16. I think we need to take some time to thank Howland for coming here so we can at least be able to not lose by 30

[Dawgology]

Y'all are still watching our basketball games?

This. Give it up. No one cares and our fans expect mediocrity or worse. Even our media folks say ?only expect to make the tourney once every 4-5 years?. What?s the point of watching it? Didn?t even realize we had a game tonight.

[Gypsy_RoadDawg]

This game is totally
out of control but I?ll take it for now lol I just hope they don?t start making shots

Out of Control best describes this whole game.

[Saltydog]

And this is exactly why I don't get emotionally invested in MSU basketball (Women or Men) any longer.

[RocketDawg]

I only watched the first half, then recorded the second and watched it this morning. The Hail State notification had us winning 61-45, so I thought it would be an interesting half to watch. I was wrong.

[msstate7]

And this is exactly why I don't get emotionally invested in MSU basketball (Women or Men) any longer.

Bc we lose games? Good thing that doesn't happen in football

[Bdawg]

I only watched the first half, then recorded the second and watched it this morning. The Hail State notification had us winning 61-45, so I thought it would be an interesting half to watch. I was wrong.

Damn that's funny!! It couldn't have taken too long to realize something was up, huh?

[RocketDawg]

Damn that's funny!! It couldn't have taken too long to realize something was up, huh?

Right, it didn't take long. Once Arky landed that 46th point and we still looked like crap, I turned it off and deleted the recording. That's not the first time the Hailstate app has gotten the score reversed.

[msstate7]

Tenn went the last 10 mins last night with only 2 made fgs. Florida hasn't made a basket the last 6 mins of this game. Both of these teams are ranked, and both of these teams lost to bad teams. Good basketball teams (but not elite) have these head scratchers, so I'm not sure why our fans think we should be above this crap.

[HailStateSZN19]

Tenn went the last 10 mins last night with only 2 made fgs. Florida hasn't made a basket the last 6 mins of this game. Both of these teams are ranked, and both of these teams lost to bad teams. Good basketball teams (but not elite) have these head scratchers, so I'm not sure why our fans think we should be above this crap.

If you?re cool with losing 5 of the last 7 and averaging 54.4 PPG in those losses, then by all means be cool with accepting horrible basketball and complete mediocrity. That team last night quit, period. There was no hustle, they looked like they wanted to be anywhere else in the world, minus Fountain because he finally got a shot at some minutes versus a conference team. And you can say ?well this team is young and we knew this drop off was coming?, well how is that not on Howland to recruit better and have some more talent here in place to not completely drop off like this? He recruited a lot of guys who were somewhat reaches anyway that hit the road and transferred out and it?s left us where we are now after Perry & Woodard left. That?s on him to better manage the roster. And I know we aren?t UK and we?re not gonna just reload every year or every other year but we?ve got the ability to recruit better to the point that we?re not this poor talent wise and to where there?s not some large gap in youth and seniority on the team. Fact is, we had some guys leave, we recruited some guys that were iffy in the first place that we took to fill out a roster & they hit the road and that falls on Howland to evaluate talent better and to manage the roster a little better.

A young team should continue to get better and show signs of improvement as the year goes on. Well the last several games have gone in reverse and last night was an embarrassment to watch offensively as we let UPig go on a damn 33-6 run LOL. It?s time to move on from Howland but I?m sure we?ll let him stick around for another year and put off the inevitable.

[msstate7]

Our last 7 games have 4 good ones...
Beat a tourney team in Florida
Had a chance to tie Bama at the 1 min mark on the road
Lost to tenn on the road in a very tight game
Destroyed Iowa st

And 3 bad ones...
Loss to aTm
Destroyed by OM
Destroyed by ark

You do realize better programs than us have down years...
Kentucky this year
Auburn this year
Tenn last year
Florida in 2019

If you looking for a coach that doesn't have down years here, good luck.

Howland will get a shot with this team to make another run at the tourney. I think he does it, easily

[Cowbell]

Our last 7 games have 4 good ones...
Beat a tourney team in Florida
Had a chance to tie Bama at the 1 min mark on the road
Lost to tenn on the road in a very tight game
Destroyed Iowa st

And 3 bad ones...
Loss to aTm
Destroyed by OM
Destroyed by ark

You do realize better programs than us have down years...
Kentucky this year
Auburn this year
Tenn last year
Florida in 2019

If you looking for a coach that doesn't have down years here, good luck.

Howland will get a shot with this team to make another run at the tourney. I think he does it, easily

There is a difference between having down years and continually having disappointing finishes to the season after showing that the talent is there to compete. It's not about down years. It's honestly like watching the Moorhead years to me. Sure - you can claim we should be happy with 8-5. But it sucks when we all know the talent we have is not the limiting factor.

[msstate7]

There is a difference between having down years and continually having disappointing finishes to the season after showing that the talent is there to compete. It's not about down years. It's honestly like watching the Moorhead years to me. Sure - you can claim we should be happy with 8-5. But it sucks when we all know the talent we have is not the limiting factor.

Who you think we should hire that will get us good players and not disappoint the 200 people that show up to the games in the aging stadium we play in that's not located near a good recruiting base? I'm all ears if someone can sell me on a realistic option.

[HailStateSZN19]

Who you think we should hire that will get us good players and not disappoint the 200 people that show up to the games in the aging stadium we play in that's not located near a good recruiting base? I'm all ears if someone can sell me on a realistic option.

Craig Smith, Utah State

[msstate7]

Craig Smith, Utah State

He has an impressive resume. Don't know if he'd come or not though. I think coaches look at what howland has done here in a better light than our fanbase... maybe they don't though. I think any coach would want to know why howland was fired for 1 down year after 3 really solid ones.

[HailStateSZN19]

He has an impressive resume. Don't know if he'd come or not though. I think coaches look at what howland has done here in a better light than our fanbase... maybe they don't though. I think any coach would want to know why howland was fired for 1 down year after 3 really solid ones.

I?m sure he wouldn?t be an easy pull or a certain pull but we could get ahead of the game and go after him before other bigger names do. He?s turned around/drastically improved all 3 stops he?s been at and has killed it at Utah State. We?d still be a P5, SEC job that has improved how we look perception wise from 6 years ago. That?d be a step up for sure. Utah State is a good basketball school, no doubt, but we can offer more salary wise and again, we?re an SEC/P5 job.