Jerry Rice bringing the heat on Aaron Rogers

[basedog]

Saying we wouldn't be going to 49ers cause he is still mad about them not drafting him. He also stated Rogers should have given up his body and ran that last drive instead of trying to complete a pass for a TD. Jerry Rice ain't scared to speak his mind when asked.

Not sure there have ever been two great athletes who worked so hard during the off season than Rice and Walter Payton, two of the greatest Mississippi football players all time!

Gotta go with the GOAT and Bruce Arians in the Super Bowl, don't believe there will ever be a player to play in as many Championship games as Brady nor as many Super Bowls. I wouldn't bet against him in the SB.

[Commercecomet24]

Good post, agree completely.

[basedog]

Rogers probably needs to find a new team, he is a very talented great player but maybe it's just me I think we has worn out his welcome in GB. Fact is I'm not a fan of him nor GB, never was a GB fan even with the Bart Starr years. I was a Colt fan with Johnny U, Lenny Moore, Raymond Berry, John Mackey and Jimmy Orr. I have to laugh as you youngsters are saying who were those guys? They were real football players, great players!

[Ari Gold]

Yes ARod should have more NFC titles and prob 2 maybe 3 rings, but throw the blame on that front office and their HORRIBLE drafts and free agent signings... You have possibility the most talented Qb ever and you draft and make off-season decisions like the Jets...

[basedog]

If I had to choose between Favre or Rogers I'd go with Favre, I think his personality is so much better and players play hard with him. Not taking anything away from Rogers but I just see Favre having fun and no doubt he would have run for a TD on GB last possession. Most talented is like a beauty contest, not always most talent or most beautiful is in the best interest. Favre had that "IT Factor", way more than many imo.
Dak has some of what Favre had, I'm not sure he will be as good or great as Favre.

Man give me Payton, Rice and Favre all day long and twice on Sunday!

[Cooterpoot]

Rodgers is a prick. Everybody knows it. But he's good. He should've left GB a long time ago. They've screwed him ever chance they can.
Give me Mahomes over Brady. Brady was great, but it's time to turn the page.

[msstate7]

Rodgers is a prick. Everybody knows it. But he's good. He should've left GB a long time ago. They've screwed him ever chance they can.
Give me Mahomes over Brady. Brady was great, but it's time to turn the page.

Are there people who would take Brady over Mahomes?

[Cooterpoot]

Are there people who would take Brady over Mahomes?

Yep. Because he's the GOAT. No other legitimate reason.

[Maroonthirteen]

Pretty easy to say he should have done this or that after the fact. There was a window there. 1/2 second quicker it's a Td.

Will Redmond should have caught that easy floating lame duck pass on Brady's. Which would have saved 7.

Because Next play, the other CB let dude waltz by him for a easy TD pass. CB should have covered the guy.

Fingers can be pointed everywhere.

[Coach34]

Are there people who would take Brady over Mahomes?

The SB is not about Brady vs Mahomes. Both will play great.

The SB is about Kelce and Hill vs Evans, AB, and Godwin. Advantage KC. Tampa drops too many passes in my opinion to beat KC.

[R2Dawg]

Rodgers is a prick. Everybody knows it. But he's good. He should've left GB a long time ago. They've screwed him ever chance they can.
Give me Mahomes over Brady. Brady was great, but it's time to turn the page.

Mahomes Brady discussion is apples and oranges. Now compare Brady younger and in his prime with Maholmes and you have a fair comparison. Brady on his way down although still a great player, not near what he was.

[R2Dawg]

The SB is not about Brady vs Mahomes. Both will play great.

The SB is about Kelce and Hill vs Evans, AB, and Godwin. Advantage KC. Tampa drops too many passes in my opinion to beat KC.

Agree the two KC WR are about unstoppable. KC gets the win.

[RocketDawg]

Rodgers is a prick. Everybody knows it. But he's good. He should've left GB a long time ago. They've screwed him ever chance they can.
Give me Mahomes over Brady. Brady was great, but it's time to turn the page.

We'll see come Super Bowl time. But I think KC is better than TB overall and should win, regardless of the quarterback's talent level.

And yes, Rodgers is a prick. Too bad people have to be that way.

[Matt3467]

I'll never pick against Brady in the playoffs. I don't care if he's 50 years old.

[Coach34]

I'll never pick against Brady in the playoffs. I don't care if he's 50 years old.

He's lost 3 SB's so it's not like he is Montana who was perfect in the big game. He will play well and it should be a great game. The question is- will his WR's catch balls that they should? If they do- it will be exciting and close. If not- KC will in by 10-14

[Matt3467]

He's lost 3 SB's so it's not like he is Montana who was perfect in the big game. He will play well and it should be a great game. The question is- will his WR's catch balls that they should? If they do- it will be exciting and close. If not- KC will in by 10-14

Playing in 9 and winning 66% of them is pretty good. That's more than twice the sample size of Montana.

[Todd4State]

Playing in 9 and winning 66% of them is pretty good
How about playing in four winning 100% of them and have 11 TD passes and 0 INT's?

[Coach34]

Playing in 9 and winning 66% of them is pretty good. That's more than twice the sample size of Montana.

Todd nailed it with Montana going 4-0 plus never throwing a pick in the SB. Brady lost the SB with Randy Moss at WR and probably the best team ever other than the 85 Bears. Montana and Brady are the standard for NFL QB's. Montana was incredible as is Brady. Brady's longevity is what gives him an upper hand on Montana. And thats a big thing. But if I had to pick one to win 1 game or lead 1 drive? It's still Montana for me.

And that brings up who Montana had to play against- the 85 Bears, the Redskins and Giants of the 80's with their great talent- as the AFC was the weak sister- losing a decade of SB's in a row.

And I'll add- defensive rules of the last 15 years have been very QB and WR friendly- the 80's was brutal, rip your damn head off football. Different game if defenses could treat Brady as they did Montana

[Todd4State]

Todd nailed it with Montana going 4-0 plus never throwing a pick in the SB. Brady lost the SB with Randy Moss at WR and probably the best team ever other than the 85 Bears. Montana and Brady are the standard for NFL QB's. Montana was incredible as is Brady. Brady's longevity is what gives him an upper hand on Montana. And thats a big thing. But if I had to pick one to win 1 game or lead 1 drive? It's still Montana for me.

And that brings up who Montana had to play against- the 85 Bears, the Redskins and Giants of the 80's with their great talent- as the AFC was the weak sister- losing a decade of SB's in a row.

And I'll add- defensive rules of the last 15 years have been very QB and WR friendly- the 80's was brutal, rip your damn head off football. Different game if defenses could treat Brady as they did Montana

The athletic training is also miles better than it was in Montana's day along with better safety equipment. The offenses were very run heavy for the most part too. The 49ers Bill Walsh WCO, Don Coryell's Air Coryell, whatever the Dolphins were doing with Marino, and the old run and shoot were basically the only pass first offenses in the league at that time. Now everyone is throwing it at least 30 times a game or more. In the 80's you only did that if you were behind.

Like you said it's just different now as it will be 20 years from now as well. I think because of that you have to kind of eye test players to a degree. Jim Brown is probably the best player I have seen on any media but he doesn't have all the records any more. I feel the same with Montana. He was amazing in not only how he commanded the huddle, how accurate he was but also how accurate he was on the run. He may or may not be the GOAT but I do think that he is without question the gold standard for QB's. I think he changed the game and how people evaluate QB's. Brady is awesome but I don't think he changed the game or how people evaluate the position. Mahomes certainly could and probably has. You really see the baseball influence with Mahomes with how he changes arm angles at times like an infielder or a baseball player would. And I see Sawyer Robertson doing some of that in high school and no doubt he will bring that to us as well. And I'm sure lots of other QB's are doing the same.

[schddog72]

Rogers probably needs to find a new team, he is a very talented great player but maybe it's just me I think we has worn out his welcome in GB. Fact is I'm not a fan of him nor GB, never was a GB fan even with the Bart Starr years. I was a Colt fan with Johnny U, Lenny Moore, Raymond Berry, John Mackey and Jimmy Orr. I have to laugh as you youngsters are saying who were those guys? They were real football players, great players!


Showing my age because I remember every one of those guys . . . . . and yes, they were all GREAT players.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Farve everytime. Sorry but Rodgers is not a winner. He doesn't have the IT factor. Never has had it.

[basedog]

Farve everytime. Sorry but Rodgers is not a winner. He doesn't have the IT factor. Never has had it.

I totally agree. Favre would run thru a brick wall to win, can’t see Rogers doing that.

May I add, the most talented QB isn’t always the answer, Brady isn’t the most talented but his long career and staying healthy for the most part is one of the reason he is the Goat. It blows my mind thinking he had played in 10 SB and won 6 times! I know he was MVP at least twice in those games.
I’ve never been a huge Brady fan but now I am, his record is like non other.

[Cooterpoot]

Mahomes Brady discussion is apples and oranges. Now compare Brady younger and in his prime with Maholmes and you have a fair comparison. Brady on his way down although still a great player, not near what he was.

Brady never had the physical abilities Mahomes has. He had pinpoint accuracy, smarts, leadership, and deflated balls.

[Commercecomet24]

Brady never had the physical abilities Mahomes has. He had pinpoint accuracy, smarts, leadership, and deflated balls.

The biggest thing that you left out is work ethic and discipline.

[basedog]

The biggest thing that you left out is work ethic and discipline.

I agree, plus playing at 43 years at a high level, amazing!

Btw, CC24, who you got, Favre or Brees? I'd take Favre.

[Saltydog]

Brady never had the physical abilities Mahomes has. He had pinpoint accuracy, smarts, leadership, and deflated balls.

My balls would be deflated too if I was married to Giselle Bundchen......

[Cooterpoot]

The biggest thing that you left out is work ethic and discipline.

I don't know about the work ethic. He never went to camp much. But he's a little nutty with his diet etc, so he's OCD in preparation I'm sure. Plus his wife is probably the hottest NFL wife ever.
I mean, he might be the most blessed human being on this planet when you look at everything.

[Cooterpoot]

My balls would be deflated too if I was married to Giselle Bundchen......

Hey Now!!!

[Commercecomet24]

I agree, plus playing at 43 years at a high level, amazing!

Btw, CC24, who you got, Favre or Brees? I'd take Favre.

Yeah to do what he's doing at 43 is unbelievable, nobody else has even come close to that. I'd take Favre too.

[Matt3467]

Football has been full of physical specimens. We see DEs and LBs that run 4.3s and QBs that can do the same. Linemen that are 350+ibs running in the upper 4s. Anybody ever see Jamarcus Russell throw the ball downfield??? I can name older players like Todd Marinovich, Charlie Ward, Tony Mandarich I think of often that had immense talent but didn't do much with it. We can name guys all day long. We've had guys come through MSU that have squandered their potential (one I think of off the top of my head is Quay Evans).

Rodgers is the most put together QB in my opinion to play the game. If I were building a Madden QB Rodgers would be the mold and the only change I'd make is give him 99 speed. Mahomes is crazy talented and all indicators are that he'll be one of the greats but chances are he'll never achieve what Brady has and most likely no one will in our lifetimes at least.

Brady has played 18 full and healthy seasons and this is going to be his 10th SB with the chance of winning his 7th. There's been great QBs that have never played in 1 SB (Dan Fouts, Rivers, Cunningham, Moon). He has 4 SB MVP awards and that's just the icing on the cake. He's also 33-11 all-time in the playoffs. There's never been a "better" QB than Tom Brady. Subjectively of course anyone can argue that but not objectively. Tom is a winner and like Commercecomet pointed out before he has work ethic and discipline. Give me Brady all the day long over these "superior" talents.

[Commercecomet24]

I don't know about the work ethic. He never went to camp much. But he's a little nutty with his diet etc, so he's OCD in preparation I'm sure. Plus his wife is probably the hottest NFL wife ever.
I mean, he might be the most blessed human being on this planet when you look at everything.

If you read about the work he had to put in to overcome some of his talent deficiences early on and what he does to stay sharp now, keep his body in shape and what's required to play at the level he plays at his age, it's pretty amazing.

[Commercecomet24]

Here's why I love the guys like Brady and Montana. Neither were the most talented or physically gifted(i.e. not the fastest, strongest or biggest) but through hard work, dedication and desire to be the best the made themselves into the best to ever do it. Amazing and fun to watch.

[Johnson85]

The athletic training is also miles better than it was in Montana's day along with better safety equipment. The offenses were very run heavy for the most part too. The 49ers Bill Walsh WCO, Don Coryell's Air Coryell, whatever the Dolphins were doing with Marino, and the old run and shoot were basically the only pass first offenses in the league at that time. Now everyone is throwing it at least 30 times a game or more. In the 80's you only did that if you were behind.

I'm assuming it's not true anymore and probably hasn't been for at least a decade or maybe even two, but NFL QBs that threw for 300 yds in a game used to have a losing record in those games because throwing enough to get to 300 yds usually meant you were playing from behind.

[msstate7]

Football has been full of physical specimens. We see DEs and LBs that run 4.3s and QBs that can do the same. Linemen that are 350+ibs running in the upper 4s. Anybody ever see Jamarcus Russell throw the ball downfield??? I can name older players like Todd Marinovich, Charlie Ward, Tony Mandarich I think of often that had immense talent but didn't do much with it. We can name guys all day long. We've had guys come through MSU that have squandered their potential (one I think of off the top of my head is Quay Evans).

Rodgers is the most put together QB in my opinion to play the game. If I were building a Madden QB Rodgers would be the mold and the only change I'd make is give him 99 speed. Mahomes is crazy talented and all indicators are that he'll be one of the greats but chances are he'll never achieve what Brady has and most likely no one will in our lifetimes at least.

Brady has played 18 full and healthy seasons and this is going to be his 10th SB with the chance of winning his 7th. There's been great QBs that have never played in 1 SB (Dan Fouts, Rivers, Cunningham, Moon). He has 4 SB MVP awards and that's just the icing on the cake. He's also 33-11 all-time in the playoffs. There's never been a "better" QB than Tom Brady. Subjectively of course anyone can argue that but not objectively. Tom is a winner and like Commercecomet pointed out before he has work ethic and discipline. Give me Brady all the day long over these "superior" talents.

If you're gonna throw Mahomes in this mix, compare them thru 2+ seasons. Mahomes has been top 5 in passer rating and qbr in all 3 seasons, 38-8 as a starter, mvp 1 of 2 (yet to be announced this year), and super bowl (could be 2 in 2 weeks).

[Commercecomet24]

Just for the heck of it, I did some research, and the results were interesting. Joe Montana averaged 32.87 pass attempts per start in his career, Tom Brady averaging 35.44.

[Commercecomet24]

If you're gonna throw Mahomes in this mix, compare them thru 2+ seasons. Mahomes has been top 5 in passer rating and qbr in all 3 seasons, 38-8 as a starter, mvp 1 of 2 (yet to be announced this year), and super bowl (could be 2 in 2 weeks).

I believe Mahomes has the chance to reach the level of Brady/Montana, because he's ultra talented, has the "IT" factor, work ethic and drive. I don't know if he'll last as long because of how much he runs and the extra hits he takes, only time will tell.The kid definitely is a stud.

[R2Dawg]

If you read about the work he had to put in to overcome some of his talent deficiences early on and what he does to stay sharp now, keep his body in shape and what's required to play at the level he plays at his age, it's pretty amazing.

Very true. He wasn't a great college QB either. That is why Brady has lasted like he has. Not valued very much today.

[Matt3467]

If you're gonna throw Mahomes in this mix, compare them thru 2+ seasons. Mahomes has been top 5 in passer rating and qbr in all 3 seasons, 38-8 as a starter, mvp 1 of 2 (yet to be announced this year), and super bowl (could be 2 in 2 weeks).

I don't like comparing Mahomes because of the sample size difference but he was already in the mix so I just went with it. Tom Brady's '07 season was one of the best all time. Brady was in the top 5 of QBR from '06-'12 (didn't count '08 as he was out all year), '14-'16 (6th in '17). Since QBR began Brady has always with the exception of these last two years been near the top. Again though it's not really that fair since Mahomes is finishing up his 3rd season and Brady his 21st but I expect Mahomes to be a Hall of Famer when it's all said and done.

[Coach34]

Every generation brings along a new "Best Ever"

NFL had Sammy Baugh/Otto Graham in the 40's, Johnny U in the 60's, Montana in the 80's, Brady in the 2000's and now Mahomes in 2020. Montana was at times perfection and is so revered because he was damn near perfect in SB's - plus he played against some of the greatest defenses ever in the Bears and NY Giants on the 80's- not to mention Philly under Buddy Ryan in late 80's/early 90's. Brady has been phenomenal and has done it for 20 years which is also amazing. To me it's Brady/Montana and everybody else right now. But Mahomes is off to an amazing start and we'll see what he is able to do over the next decade.

NBA? 60's had Chamberlin and Russell. 80's brought Magic, Bird, then Jordan. 1990's/2000's brought Shaq, Kobe, LeBron

Every generation produces a guy

[Bubb Rubb]

The SB is not about Brady vs Mahomes. Both will play great.

The SB is about Kelce and Hill vs Evans, AB, and Godwin. Advantage KC. Tampa drops too many passes in my opinion to beat KC.

A coach as yourself should know that Tampa has the kind of defense that can take away some of those weapons, or at least neutralize some of them. Especially with two weeks to prepare. Cleveland's defense did a pretty good job of it a couple of weeks ago.

Kansas City has a pretty good defense too. So while all the talk is Mahomes/Brady and weapons versus weapons, I strongly expect this game to be a low scoring slugfest. And in a situation like that, Tampa has the better ball-control offense, so that gives them a slight edge in my opinion.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Saying we wouldn't be going to 49ers cause he is still mad about them not drafting him. He also stated Rogers should have given up his body and ran that last drive instead of trying to complete a pass for a TD. Jerry Rice ain't scared to speak his mind when asked.

Not sure there have ever been two great athletes who worked so hard during the off season than Rice and Walter Payton, two of the greatest Mississippi football players all time!

Gotta go with the GOAT and Bruce Arians in the Super Bowl, don't believe there will ever be a player to play in as many Championship games as Brady nor as many Super Bowls. I wouldn't bet against him in the SB.

When a dude with 3 Super Bowl Rings, a Super Bowl MVP, and known Warrior work ethic says something, it's probably correct.