MSU/Bears game

[RocketDawg]

No game thread yet 10 minutes into the game so I thought I'd start one.

Score is 12-11 Bears at the moment.

[RocketDawg]

Still no improvement in free throws.

[Dawgology]

Looks like punches to the face are the only thing not allowed.

[CJDAWG85]

State playing with zero intensity or physicality. We are about to get run out of our own gym.

[Dawgology]

State basketball really puts some unprepared teams on the court. Wow.

[KOdawg1]

OM is out-hustling us.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Bama got a star with Nate Oats

[BayouDawg]

Getting out worked similar to the A&M game. No excuse for this

[msstate7]

That draws the whistle. They've swallowed it on like everything, and they call that. F these refs

[Harrydawg]

We will be out coached but are good enough to beat them......I hope

[CJDAWG85]

DJ Stewart’s selfish ass ****s State again... I’m so tired of him

[PGHBulldogBG]

Our team kind of goes off the other teams coaches. Davis and Williams confuse Howland but White and C Martin are really bad and Howland beats them usually. Cream is not good either. F Martin is another top coach that Howland gets confused by. Calipari out talents Howland every year. No chance against Oats or Wade this year.

[BayouDawg]

If ole miss was halfway decent offensively this game would be out reach. I dont know why I expect anything different at this point in big game for howland

[Maroonthirteen]

What a dumb decision. Shoot an off balance 3 with 8 seconds left. Give them the ball. And you guess it, they extend the lead.

[LC Dawg]

Completely out worked on our home court against our in state rival. This team can frustrate the shit out of you. I think we come out strong in the 2nd half though and pull off a win.

[msstate7]

Our team kind of goes off the other teams coaches. Davis and Williams confuse Howland but White and C Martin are really bad and Howland beats them usually. Cream is not good either. F Martin is another top coach that Howland gets confused by. Calipari out talents Howland every year. No chance against Oats or Wade this year.

We literally beat OM by 25 the last game we played them on this court.

[parabrave]

Just turned in. Dam DJ 1-5 3s. Thats not acceptable/ Shooting 36% as a team in your own place is bad.

[PGHBulldogBG]

We literally beat OM by 25 the last game we played them on this court.

Yea but at that point Ole Miss didn?t have much to play for. They kind of went through the motions to end the season. Trust me I?m not a fire Howland person just know we will always be middle of the pack with him and can easily predict the Ws and Ls

[msstate7]

Just turned in. Dam DJ 1-5 3s. Thats not acceptable/ Shooting 36% as a team in your own place is bad.

Not sure what's going on with DJ. He's had 3 open looks from 3, and he missed all. Surely he's about to get going... hopefully this half

[KOdawg1]

We literally beat OM by 25 the last game we played them on this court.
Howland is 4-6 vs. OM and last year being the exception, they give us trouble every year. They throw a 1-3-1 or a 2-3 zone at us every year and we look like we've never seen it before. This is a must win for Howland. He's going to start losing people if he hasn't already

[msstate7]

Howland is 4-6 vs. OM and last year being the exception, they give us trouble every year. They throw a 1-3-1 or a 2-3 zone at us every year and we look like we've never seen it before. This is a must win for Howland. He's going to start losing people if he hasn't already

It is a big game for us. The fact this team is 4-2 after losing 4 starters and lost what 80% of our production from last season should be reason to get behind Ben, not crucify him. Now, he needs to win this game.

[CJDAWG85]

This will be a blowout in the 2H.

[Cooterpoot]

It is a big game for us. The fact this team is 4-2 after losing 4 starters and lost what 80% of our production from last season should be reason to get behind Ben, not crucify him. Now, he needs to win this game.

Ben will always get your hopes up only to watch them sleep in the next game.

[msstate7]

OM can absolutely mug us with no call

[BayouDawg]

Deivon does some dumb shit

[msstate7]

They finally call a dang foul

[BayouDawg]

Now we finally hustle but we go full retard at the same time

[BayouDawg]

Great defense!

[LC Dawg]

We were out efforted in the 1st half and now we seem to be matching their effort. We need to out effort them and get a lead and extend it.

[starkvegasdawg]

Meanwhile Alabama has scored 73 points and still 17 minutes left in their game.

[CJDAWG85]

Smith just picked up his 4th... in a game where ZERO fouls have been called.. it’s hard to believe someone would be in foul trouble

[msstate7]

It has gone from Wwe out there to touch fouls.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Cohen please remember this name. Darian DeVries. Got to love the Drake

[msstate7]

Smith just picked up his 4th... in a game where ZERO fouls have been called.. it’s hard to believe someone would be in foul trouble

I see 3 on t. Smith

[Dawgcap]

Alabama hit everything they shot. We are finally starting to shot a bit better. Unfortunately Mississippi is also. I?m guaranteeing the defense is a bit different in the 2 games.

[msstate7]

Ado was hacked. F these refs

[BayouDawg]

Smith just picked up his 4th... in a game where ZERO fouls have been called.. it’s hard to believe someone would be in foul trouble

And if he would block out he wouldnt have gotten at 2 of those fouls.

[msstate7]

Ado wasn't fouled, but he was. I really wanna see these refs have bad things happen to them

[BayouDawg]

We need to just play fast the rest of the game. Our half court offense is an abortion and howland should be embarrassed for calling this a system

[msstate7]

And if he would block out he wouldnt have gotten at 2 of those fouls.

He has 3 fouls. Where y'all coming up with 4?

[BayouDawg]

He has 3 fouls. Where y'all coming up with 4?

I just said 2 were due to lack of fundamentals and head in the ass

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Absolutely pathetic and inconsistent

[msstate7]

Molinar
Stewart
Johnson
T. Smith
Ado

Gotta go with them, and I'd go to smith right here

[PGHBulldogBG]

I?ve had enough. Kermit has proved his point, but at this point he should be mad at Florida since that?s where Strickland is

[KOdawg1]

Pathetic.

[Dawgcap]

DJ Stewart was playing well. He has struggled tremendously the last 3 games. He hasn?t produced when needed. The shots have been there. He misses then forces the issues because of the misses. He?s pressing to prove himself which is hurting us

[Maroonthirteen]

Alabama hits everything they shoot because they're athletic and talented. They'll win the sec.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Alabama hits everything they shoot because they're athletic and talented. They'll win the sec.

Nate Oats is about to run the SEC because he has talent and coaching ability. If Buzz Williams, Frank Martin or Kermit Davis got talent they would compete, but Oats has coaching and talent

[BayouDawg]

If we lose this game im officially jumping off the howland train. Youth isnt an excuse for lack of effort and getting out coached. Even if we return everybody we may win a few more games but it will just be the same thing all over again. Win a couple of games then lay a gigantic turd when we have a chance to grab momentum.

End rant

[parabrave]

DJ Stewart was playing well. He has struggled tremendously the last 3 games. He hasn?t produced when needed. The shots have been there. He misses then forces the issues because of the misses. He?s pressing to prove himself which is hurting us

Maybe he needs to come off the bench. He has sucked the last few games

[Cooterpoot]

How Ben keeps his job is beyond me. One quick exit tournament and a losing record vs OM. Hell, Stans was better than that.

[CJDAWG85]

He needs to learn he’s not a damn PG and quit trying to be one.

[Joebob]

If we lose this game im officially jumping off the howland train. Youth isnt an excuse for lack of effort and getting out coached. Even if we return everybody we may win a few more games but it will just be the same thing all over again. Win a couple of games then lay a gigantic turd when we have a chance to grab momentum.

End rant

Welcome to the dark side LOL

[parabrave]

2 we cannot afford to be cold Mol and DJ. DJ has gotten hot in the 2nd.

[BayouDawg]

How Ben keeps his job is beyond me. One quick exit tournament and a losing record vs OM. Hell, Stans was better than that.

Agreed. Stansbury was also bad against a zone defense but I think Ben may be even worse

[Todd4State]

Games like this are why we don't have fan support in basketball.

[PGHBulldogBG]

If we want to make the NCAA tournament consistently then we need a young up and comer. Not a washed up coach who couldn?t even win a title with Love and Westbrook

[KOdawg1]

How Ben keeps his job is beyond me. One quick exit tournament and a losing record vs OM. Hell, Stans was better than that.
A quick tournament exit with 3 NBA players and a G-league player. People like to point at his one NCAAT appearance but the fact he got bounced after one game with all that talent is pretty telling.

I'm over him. There's no getting me back after tonight.

[Cloak]

Games like this are why we don't have fan support in basketball.

Yup. This bad loss will kill the miniscule fanbase we have left. Just can't lose games like this, no excuse

[ScoobaDawg]

Games like this are why we don't have fan support in basketball.

I'll admit this is i think the first game i've turned on.

Can we just hire kermit?
dmn

[BayouDawg]

Welcome to the dark side LOL

I mean it just gets old. The same shit every year. Losing by 16 to the worst ole miss team in 5 years. Getting out rebounded. Cant make a damn free throw. Act like they have never seen a zone defense. Have zero movement on offense. Your players are best in transition but you never push the pace. It just never ends.

[Joebob]

I mean it just gets old. The same shit every year. Losing by 16 to the worst ole miss team in 5 years. Getting out rebounded. Cant make a damn free throw. Act like they have never seen a zone defense. Have zero movement on offense. Your players are best in transition but you never push the pace. It just never ends.

I know. I hear you.

[msstate7]

I'll admit this is i think the first game i've turned on.

Can we just hire kermit?
dmn

OM is 7-6 (2-4) in sec. We lost this game, and howland has to catch the blame, but Kermit still sucks.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I'll admit this is i think the first game i've turned on.

Can we just hire kermit?
dmn

I wanted him in 2012 when we hired Ray. I wanted Neal Brown when we hired Moorhead. It?s not complicated but our ADs like to make it that way

[LC Dawg]

Ole Miss isn't good. Nothing to say other than this is an ass whipping and a bad loss.

[msugolf]

If we want to make the NCAA tournament consistently then we need a young up and comer. Not a washed up coach who couldn?t even win a title with Love and Westbrook

He had 2 other NBA players on that team btw

[msstate7]

This is a terrible loss, but I really don't think our fans know crap about basketball. Hell, the team we beat Saturday just beat #7 by 26 tonight. Sec basketball is unpredictable as hell. Regardless, howland and dawgs, terrible

[Thick]

LRichard Williams said after watching a Howland practice.....?It was the softest practice I have ever witnessed, with no ball discipline, no hustle, no accountability, and the players acted uninterested.?

I?m loving that we?re getting outplayed and out coached by a hard ass Coach! The boosters and Cohenz can eat a bag of dicks!

[msstate7]

LRichard Williams said after watching a Howland practice.....?It was the softest practice I have ever witnessed, with no ball discipline, no hustle, no accountability, and the players acted uninterested.?

I?m loving that we?re getting outplayed and out coached by a hard ass Coach! The boosters and Cohenz can eat a bag of dicks!

Yay, we lost to OM! This is your take? Jeez

[PGHBulldogBG]

Kermit is not terrible. He is a good coach just not a good recruiter. No doubt he should be our coach

[TimberBeast]

This is getting more embarrassing than the women?s games.

[msugolf]

LRichard Williams said after watching a Howland practice.....?It was the softest practice I have ever witnessed, with no ball discipline, no hustle, no accountability, and the players acted uninterested.?

I?m loving that we?re getting outplayed and out coached by a hard ass Coach! The boosters and Cohenz can eat a bag of dicks!

I've heard the same from some former players

[msstate7]

LSU (a really good team) is losing by 40 at home to Bama. Crap happens in this league.

[Cowbell]

The same guys get excited every year because they see promise, but the team always ends up underperforming. It's why I watch very little basketball until Howland is gone. It has the same feel as Leachs offense.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

What is even more pathetic than our team is the segment of our fanbase who can't see that Howland is a problem. He has gotten more passes for his pathetic coaching and it's like those fans are blind to it. We are running out of excuses.

[BayouDawg]

LSU (a really good team) is losing by 40 at home to Bama. Crap happens in this league.

I get your point but this is the same thing every year. Rinse repeat

[Bothrops]

I knew we'd lose this game, you could feel it in the air.

[BayouDawg]

I knew we'd lose this game, you could feel it in the air.

We would have lost to the local youth rec team the way we played

[msstate7]

What is even more pathetic than our team is the segment of our fanbase who can't see that Howland is a problem. He has gotten more passes for his pathetic coaching and it's like those fans are blind to it. We are running out of excuses.

Howland is not great. He's a solid coach though, and to suggest he isn't is nuts. We can't fire a solid coach considering we pay 12-13th in sec in coaching salaries, zero fan support, old facilities, and not a good recruiting base.

[Dawgcap]

I agree with a lot of the negative on Howland that I see but at some point players need to step up and play with heart and effort. If we claim talent and we see it in several games then it shows we have players that go through the motions when they shoul elevate their efforts. This wasn?t only on a coaching staff that is on players who checked out early. Shit effort. No fight or emotion

[BayouDawg]

Howland is not great. He's a solid coach though, and to suggest he isn't is nuts. We can't fire a solid coach considering we pay 12-13th in sec in coaching salaries, zero fan support, old facilities, and not a good recruiting base.

Sadly this is accurate. We just let him retire in a few years and hopefully we can hire a good coach.

[Cooterpoot]

We're simply funding Howland's retirement. He's just riding it out.

[Bothrops]

College basketball is on the decline in popularity, and in interest beyond the high school level.

[ImissCityBagel]

I'm done with Howland.

[Dawgcap]

When we came out of time outs we scored. We had no intensity on either side of the ball. No emotion, and a total lack of fight when they punched us in the mouth. At some point players need to be embarrassed when they only show up when they feel like being there.
Now for Howland I?m probably sitting a few guys in the middle of this game because he has to make a point that heart and effort is on them as well. But at the same time he (Howland) got his handed to him as our players did on the floor. Plenty of blame to go around and this has been a problem the last few years. See I have an issue playing guys when they only want to play when they want to play

[ZedFedder]

If you think we can't get a better coach than what Howland is right now, I don't know what to tell you.

[msstate7]

When we came out of time outs we scored. We had no intensity on either side of the ball. No emotion, and a total lack of fight when they punched us in the mouth. At some point players need to be embarrassed when they only show up when they feel like being there.
Now for Howland I?m probably sitting a few guys in the middle of this game because he has to make a point that heart and effort is on them as well. But at the same time he (Howland) got his handed to him as our players did on the floor. Plenty of blame to go around and this has been a problem the last few years. See I have an issue playing guys when they only want to play when they want to play

From the coach down, we got whipped tonight. Now we face the hottest team this side of Gonzaga and Baylor... gonna need some beer on Saturday haha

[msstate7]

If you think we can't get a better coach than what Howland is right now, I don't know what to tell you.

The last 3+ years, we're 6th in the sec in wins. That isn't good enough... let's fire howland tonight. Who we hire that gets us top 5 in the sec since top 6 isn't good enough at a sleeping giant like us?

[Thick]

Yay, we lost to OM! This is your take? Jeez

What?s your take? You post 25k times a week, and your posts are spot on?? Who are you? You ever strap on the maroon and white and play....then sit down and stfu! Giving a **** and getting after someone?s ass is not hard, but you already know that bc you?re an all-American poster on ED!!

[msstate7]

What?s your take? You post 25k times a week, and your posts are spot on?? Who are you? You ever strap on the maroon and white and play....then sit down and stfu! Giving a **** and getting after someone?s ass is not hard, but you already know that bc you?re an all-American poster on ED!!

Thanks man. I like you too

[Dawgcap]

Everyone is frustrated. It?s maddening. But I seen a few blame only coaching. This is a total program meltdown and it?s happened a few times. At some point players need to be engaged but I can?t help for the melt if Howland sat some guys in critical moments. That?s what needs to happen and it should of happened the last several years.
Look we aren?t a Top 10 team but we deserve that effort from coaching down to the players. At some point coaches need to hold players accountable and I don?t think we get that but at the same time if Howland does the melt would be epic. My thoughts are I?d rather lose by 30 with players engaged in a game than to melt for stretches that we have seen this year.
Some probably need to pick their poison but I guess it really doesn?t matter if we don?t hold our athletes to high level of effort

[Dawgology]

Meh. Who cares.

[Commercecomet24]

Let's face it we're a mediocre, boring team that's hard to watch.

[DawgFan85]

State grad here, 57 years old and I know I haven't suffered like some of the older folks on here with watching some bad teams over the years but geez this year is total crap. I had a quadruple bi-pass 18 months ago with multiple hospital stays dealing with the side effects including a collasped heart graft. And on top of that, dealing with Covid and this crazy political BS. Football sucked, men's and women's basket ball is sucking and I hope to God that baseball shows some type of freaking pulse! Until I see some improvement in the teams we put on the field and the one's coaching them, I'm checking out for a while to deal with more important things like staying on the right side of the grass. MSU sports will be the death of me!

[Dawgcap]

And in the press conference we had at least 1 player say as such about lack lack of effort. But yet we have athletes demanding to be paid with the NIL while not demanding effort from themselves. Ironic I think

[Todd4State]

State grad here, 57 years old and I know I haven't suffered like some of the older folks on here with watching some bad teams over the years but geez this year is total crap. I had a quadruple bi-pass 18 months ago with multiple hospital stays dealing with the side effects including a collasped heart graft. And on top of that, dealing with Covid and this crazy political BS. Football sucked, men's and women's basket ball is sucking and I hope to God that baseball shows some type of freaking pulse! Until I see some improvement in the teams we put on the field and the one's coaching them, I'm checking out for a while to deal with more important things like staying on the right side of the grass. MSU sports will be the death of me!

At least we guaranteed that we won't lose the Governor's Cup this year.**

[BeardoMSU]

What?s your take? You post 25k times a week, and your posts are spot on?? Who are you? You ever strap on the maroon and white and play....then sit down and stfu! Giving a **** and getting after someone?s ass is not hard, but you already know that bc you?re an all-American poster on ED!!

You played football, right?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Games like this are why we don't have fan support in basketball.

Bingo. We literally screw the pooch every single time we have had any kind of momentum since that punch thrown in Hawaii. We have missed the tourney I think 2 maybe 3 times by one game it feels like. We win a couple good games and then we lose two crazy unexplainable games like UM and aTm. I love MSU, but I never forget we just always let me down.