Gator game

[parabrave]

Well which team shows up today? The one that beat Mizzou of the one which can't beat a press? Speaking of Mizzou they destroyed A@M today//

[parabrave]

Good drive DJ.

[msstate7]

That was a shooting foul?

[RocketDawg]

Both teams are a little cold at the start.

[msstate7]

Get d. Smith in the game. Molinar and Stewart can drive in the half court, but they can't handle pressure well

[RocketDawg]

Tolu made his shot. Why'd he get two free throws?

[msstate7]

Tolu made his shot. Why'd he get two free throws?

Lane violation

[msstate7]

Think Stewart traveled there

[RocketDawg]

Lane violation

Thanks.

[msstate7]

D. Smith is getting better

[msstate7]

3 freshmen in the game. Wake up Ben

[parabrave]

Dam Turnovers.

[msstate7]

The 3 freshmen held their own. I'd rather we only play 2 of them at the same time though.

[RocketDawg]

Do they ever practice free throws?

[msstate7]

Stewart with back-to-back TOs

[Lord McBuckethead]

Do they ever practice free throws?

If Tulu gets the ball down low, it doesn't matter if he has 4 guys around him he is going up. and not in a good way. Please kick it out to a shooter.

[Lord McBuckethead]

that was a good find by Ado to Tulu. Tulu went up quickly before he lost his position.

[parabrave]

Well Moliner is starting cold.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I bet we do not get a good look coming out of this timeout. I would have rathered just called a play and try it. UF, if they were smart would change to a zone right here and catch us totally off balance, like we have never seen one before.
bet we also run off 20 seconds prior to anyone moving.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I stand corrected. Good ball movement with 12 seconds to go. got a pump fake look 2 pts. Good move.

[parabrave]

32-29 half. We are shooting 47% 15-32, 0-4 3 ptr. 2-5 FT. We need Mol to get hot.

[parabrave]

Good drive Mol

[parabrave]

Dang Post isn't helping at all today

[msstate7]

Please take post out. Please

[BayouDawg]

Adu has been terrific today

[PGHBulldogBG]

I have no confidence we win this. Probably going to blow another double digit lead

[msstate7]

Sec basketball games are hard to win. Seems everyone makes a run

[BayouDawg]

You almost have to try to be this bad at free throws

[msstate7]

Man, I need help... I wanna see that big ugly white dude hurt. He has such a punchable face, and he's really freaking good, so yeah, I hate him lol

[Lord McBuckethead]

That center for florida just took two steps to get around ado before dribbling. Travel has been called on that for the last 10 years in college bball religiously.

[msstate7]

You almost have to try to be this bad at free throws

That's the killer. T. Smith is usually pretty good, so I just don't know. We simply have to hurt ourselves

[Lord McBuckethead]

Ado gets raked out of the way, and just smoked on that travel by UF center

[RougeDawg]

0.00000 killer instinct. We try to start running clock when we get up double digits. Reminds me of a certain ?Stall? offensive approach.

[msstate7]

1/2 at the FT line is our biggest strength lol

[parabrave]

6-14 FT./ That sucks Coach.

[msstate7]

Now they call the travel. Not sure he did either

[BayouDawg]

So apparently only Florida is allowed to use the sliding pivot foot move

[msstate7]

I hope that ankle is fine... their next game

[msstate7]

Go! Inside! Now!

[msstate7]

So we just gonna get bent over by refs

[BayouDawg]

Refs miss the goal tending and then we make up for it by fouling a jump shooter

[Lord McBuckethead]

Wow. Goal tending not called or reviewed. Then we foul a 3 pt shooter. Phantom.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Anyone who thinks we will get calls by SEC refs hasn?t watched Miss State for very long

[BayouDawg]

We need to sit deivon for a little bit.

[msstate7]

Get t. Smith a look

[msstate7]

FT shooting, please do it better

[BayouDawg]

We need these dj

[BayouDawg]

4 big free throws

[msstate7]

Florida makes FT look easy, which they are

[BayouDawg]

Appleby goes into the lane completely out of control and always gets the call

[msstate7]

D. Smith
Stewart
Molinar
T. Smith
Ado

That's our best lineup. Use Johnson as 6th man

[BayouDawg]

Florida makes FT look easy, which they are

I would like to sit in on our free throw shooting sessions. I know the players probably shoot 100 a day. But they must not be paying attention that their form is consistent and basically just doing them nonchalantly. Or maybe they just clam up during the game

[starkvegasdawg]

FT shooting, please do it better

55% on the day.

[BayouDawg]

55% on the day.

Thats unacceptable at the high school level

[R2Dawg]

D. Smith
Stewart
Molinar
T. Smith
Ado

That's our best lineup. Use Johnson as 6th man

It might be. Johnson is such an important piece too. Boy we have the pieces, can we put it together this year?

[RocketDawg]

All around, a pretty solid game today - unless we manage to blow a big lead at the end.

[msstate7]

It might be. Johnson is such an important piece too. Boy we have the pieces, can we put it together this year?

I think we're a year away. We really need to find a way to keep t. Smith, Stewart, and Molinar together. Convincing ado to come back would be icing on the cake

[BayouDawg]

All around, a pretty solid game today - unless we manage to blow a big lead at the end.

And right on queue

[RocketDawg]

I would like to sit in on our free throw shooting sessions. I know the players probably shoot 100 a day. But they must not be paying attention that their form is consistent and basically just doing them nonchalantly. Or maybe they just clam up during the game

Free throws aren't as flashy as a dunk or charging layup. They just don't seem to take them seriously.

[R2Dawg]

We must improve FT shooting and learn how to break the press. Molinar is too lazy on his passes.

[RocketDawg]

I think we're a year away. We really need to find a way to keep t. Smith, Stewart, and Molinar together. Convincing ado to come back would be icing on the cake


Enroll him in a PhD program.

[BayouDawg]

Free throws aren't as flashy as a dunk or charging layup. They just don't seem to take them seriously.

This is most likely the answer

[RocketDawg]

Well, that was an interesting ending.

[msstate7]

Boy, Stewart, that was a low IQ play

[R2Dawg]

Good grief, DJ got mugged and no call.

[BayouDawg]

Glad for the win but we continue to go full retard down the stretch in games

[msstate7]

Good grief, DJ got mugged and no call.

Shouldn't have even attempted to score. Just run the clock out

[Joebob]

Just as a reminder to the people that have argued with me over the last two years, this is exactly why I can't get excited about this team going to the tournament. We won't win these kind of games in the NCAA's

[msstate7]

This was a really big win. Take care of business now against OM

[RougeDawg]

As good as this team can be, they will continue to attempt to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. No killer instinct. Bad FT shooting and low BBall IQ. That’s how teams with lesser talent can be successful.

Good win, but many more head scratchers coming for the foreseeable future.

[msstate7]

Just as a reminder to the people that have argued with me over the last two years, this is exactly why I can't get excited about this team going to the tournament.

Bc we beat Florida (a current tourney team)? Good reason

[BayouDawg]

Shouldn't have even attempted to score. Just run the clock out

Yea that was just dumb. On the bright side we got a solid win with both Stewart and Molinar having subpar games thanks to smith and adu controlling the paint

[msstate7]

Yea that was just dumb. On the bright side we got a solid win with both Stewart and Molinar having subpar games thanks to smith and adu controlling the paint

Excellent point. T. Smith and ado were huge today

[Bothrops]

We were lucky as **** to win that game with the stupid moves.

[msstate7]

We were lucky as **** to win that game with the stupid moves.

Lucky, huh? Haha

[Joebob]

Bc we beat Florida (a current tourney team)? Good reason

No, because we can't handle the press, can't get off a good shot in crunch time, can't shoot free throws consistently, etc. etc. etc. those are things you have to do well in the tournament because there will be a lot of tough, close games, under pressure. Howland's teams have never done that.

[PGHBulldogBG]

That was a good win. Terrible last minute, but overall solid performance. I?m to the point where I wouldn?t be surprised if we lose to ole miss and then win at Tennessee. I go into each game thinking 50/50 shot

[R2Dawg]

Shouldn't have even attempted to score. Just run the clock out

Oh I understand but the defender road him and almost pushed him to the basket. I think they were trying to foul at that point.

On the flip side he had an open layup for a minute and they were going to foul which we would not have hit so a layup was looking pretty good.

[msstate7]

No, because we can't handle the press, can't get off a good shot in crunch time, can't shoot free throws consistently, etc. etc. etc. those are things you have to do well in the tournament because there will be a lot of tough, close games, under pressure. Howland's teams have never done that.

And yet, we won. Maybe we'll lose the next one so you can be happy

[PGHBulldogBG]

No, because we can't handle the press, can't get off a good shot in crunch time, can't shoot free throws consistently, etc. etc. etc. those are things you have to do well in the tournament because there will be a lot of tough, close games, under pressure. Howland's teams have never done that.

We were a good free throw shooting team last year, just had other attitude issues. As frustrating as I am with the free throws, I would rather deal with that than attitude issues

[R2Dawg]

Excellent point. T. Smith and ado were huge today

Yep, huge. Tulo is quietly becoming a force on the inside. Ado is just the enforcer that every offensive player knows about.

[Joebob]

And yet, we won. Drink bleach

Why are you so stubborn? You think this is the first time this year we've played terrible in crunch time?

[msstate7]

Why are you so stubborn? You think this is the first time this year we've played terrible in crunch time?

We lost 4 starters! This is a team of newcomers, and they're winning. Enjoy it!

[R2Dawg]

We were a good free throw shooting team last year, just had other attitude issues. As frustrating as I am with the free throws, I would rather deal with that than attitude issues

Totally agree with that.

[msstate7]

Remember this team was picked 12th in sec preseason! We are doing well.

[msstate7]

First 4-2 sec start in "almost a decade" - secn update guy

[Lord McBuckethead]

DJ is too lazy on his dribbling

[basedog]

Good win, need to get one on the road against Bear Sharks. Gators were a decent team.

If you are bitching about winning then u need to study MSU basketball history. Overall it ain’t so good. Maybe a dozen good teams over the last 50 years. Be happy boys! LOL.

[ZedFedder]

Let’s beat the crap out of OM.

[R2Dawg]

DJ is too lazy on his dribbling

Yep and D Smith may be our best guard breaking the press.

[msstate7]

Good win, need to get one on the road against Bear Sharks. Gators were a decent team.

If you are bitching about winning then u need to study MSU basketball history. Overall it ain’t so good. Maybe a dozen good teams over the last 50 years. Be happy boys! LOL.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Y'all read this

[maroonmania]

Seriously, I was watching at 71-62 MSU with 40 seconds to go. From that point on if you wanted to document all the things NOT to do in the final minute of the game with a lead, those 40 seconds would be what you would want to use as your material to show your players. I have literally never seen a team this bad at the end of games. We don't even seem to understand the game situations.

[basedog]

Seriously, I was watching at 71-62 MSU with 40 seconds to go. From that point on if you wanted to document all the things NOT to do in the final minute of the game with a lead, those 40 seconds would be what you would want to use as your material to show your players. I have literally never seen a team this bad at the end of games. We don't even seem to understand the game situations.

Most of it is lack of experience with a very young team. As the season progresses they will or should better as a team. We are just now figuring out the rotation. Yes it was pretty sloppy, but they will learn more from winning and will be more motivated as time or the season goes by.

I still like this young team.

[RocketDawg]

That was a good win. Terrible last minute, but overall solid performance. I?m to the point where I wouldn?t be surprised if we lose to ole miss and then win at Tennessee. I go into each game thinking 50/50 shot

Correct. It wouldn't be surprising.

Tuns out the Kentucky game was a "bad loss". Not sure I remember the last time Kentucky didn't have a good team.

[maroonmania]

Correct. It wouldn't be surprising.

Tuns out the Kentucky game was a "bad loss". Not sure I remember the last time Kentucky didn't have a good team.
Glad to be 4-2 but both of our losses in the SEC would be considered bad losses.

[msstate7]

Glad to be 4-2 but both of our losses in the SEC would be considered bad losses.

And 2 of our 4 wins are considered good wins (mizzou and Florida)

[RocketDawg]

Glad to be 4-2 but both of our losses in the SEC would be considered bad losses.

Our Clemson loss might be "bad" before long. They just got blown out by 35 by Virginia. Announcer said the was the second worst loss of a ranked home team - ever.

[RocketDawg]

Good win, need to get one on the road against Bear Sharks. Gators were a decent team.

If you are bitching about winning then u need to study MSU basketball history. Overall it ain’t so good. Maybe a dozen good teams over the last 50 years. Be happy boys! LOL.

The game with the Bears is in Starkville.

More than 50 years ago, in the Babe McCarthy days, we always had a really good team, along with Vanderbilt, if I'm remembering correctly. Totally different game back then though.

[RougeDawg]

One thing I liked today was the post guys stepping up when the PGs were not at their best. That will help their confidence and help open up the offense going forward. Teams will now have to take that into account game planning. You take away our outside guys, we will pound it down low. You focus down low and outside will be open. Today?s game may have been the best game this young team could have played.

Other guys stepping up when your best two struggle, builds overall confidence. Could be a season changing game. Time will tell.

[Coach34]

We are just inexperienced- especially at Guard. Molinar is a Soph that didnt play much last year. Smith a is true Freshman. Stewart is inexperienced. They are good players and will get better and better.

Our FT shooting is ultimately what will decide where this team ends up. We would be 6-0 in the SEC right now with just decent FT shooting

[Coach34]

But ya know what? This team plays hard. This team doesnt fight over the ball and shots. They represent our school well. We've missed that for a decade.

[RougeDawg]

But ya know what? This team plays hard. This team doesnt fight over the ball and shots. They represent our school well. We've missed that for a decade.

No doubt. Playing hard is fun to watch. Just pointing out that all of the pieces have not fallen into place yet. They are there. Just need to fit them together.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I?m not predicting wins and losses anymore because we are so random, but finishing 11-7 would at least give us hope to make the tournament. Especially if we win 2 in the SEC tourney

[msstate7]

Our schedule is about to get brutal after OM Tuesday night...
At Bama
At tenn
Iowa st
At ark
At South Carolina
LSU

This is about as tough a stretch you can have in the sec.

[MetEdDawg]

I?m not predicting wins and losses anymore because we are so random, but finishing 11-7 would at least give us hope to make the tournament. Especially if we win 2 in the SEC tourney

I don't think 11-7 gets us close. I think it's going to have to be 12-6 and a minimum 2 wins in the tournament to even think about the bubble. Our NET ranking sucks. It's at 86. We have enough of Howland's track record to say it's going to be virtually impossible to go 12-6. We play too many good teams that we can't score enough points against to only lose 4 more games in conference.

[maroonmania]

No doubt. Playing hard is fun to watch. Just pointing out that all of the pieces have not fallen into place yet. They are there. Just need to fit them together.

I enjoy watching this team play as long as I don't have to watch them in the last 2 to 3 minutes of the game. Right now it is just emotionally painful to endure that. If we have an 8 to 10 point lead you know we are going to be trying to hold on for dear life or if we have a 4 to 6 point lead you know there is probably as good a chance or better that we lose than win. Howland needs to work this team over and over in practice in every situation at the end of games because we have no natural awareness right now of end game situations. First, we don't make free throws which already makes it difficult to close out games but we don't do other things well either. For example, like yesterday, if you are ahead 6 with 20 seconds to go and your opponent is willing to drive and take two points then let them have it without fouling because you are still up 2 possessions. Or if you are up by 3 with 12 seconds to go don't put up an off balance shot when you can dribble out and force them to foul you where one free throw pretty much seals the game. Just situations that our team is apparently oblivious to. And that doesn't even count our difficulty inbounding or handling a press at the end of a game or being unable to even get a shot up if its an end of game situation where we need to score to win. Yes, this team is doing a lot of things very well that makes them a lot of fun to watch but its frustrating to watch them play so well for 37 to 38 minutes only to know that it will be like pulling teeth to survive the last couple of minutes of the game. Hopefully as the team continues to get experience they will improve at end of game situations but this does seem to be a trait of all Howland's team in close games. This team just seems to be even worse because of the lack of experience in the backcourt.

[msstate7]

I don't think 11-7 gets us close. I think it's going to have to be 12-6 and a minimum 2 wins in the tournament to even think about the bubble. Our NET ranking sucks. It's at 86. We have enough of Howland's track record to say it's going to be virtually impossible to go 12-6. We play too many good teams that we can't score enough points against to only lose 4 more games in conference.

Impossible to predict without knowing the wins. 4 of our next 6 sec games are Q1 win opportunities. I don't expect us to do well vs those 4, but any wins in that group could really move us up, and just playing them will help some.

[Coach34]

I don't think 11-7 gets us close. I think it's going to have to be 12-6 and a minimum 2 wins in the tournament to even think about the bubble. Our NET ranking sucks. It's at 86. We have enough of Howland's track record to say it's going to be virtually impossible to go 12-6. We play too many good teams that we can't score enough points against to only lose 4 more games in conference.

This is not a normal season with teams missing games and playing less games than normal. This next 3 weeks will give us a decent idea of where we are.

[msstate7]

Our schedule is about to get brutal after OM Tuesday night...
At Bama
At tenn
Iowa st
At ark
At South Carolina
LSU

This is about as tough a stretch you can have in the sec.

Gotta beat OM. If we do, that's 5-2 in sec. If we could somehow win 2 of the sec games above, that would give us a 7-5 sec record after 12 games. At worst, we have to win 1, that leaves us at 6-6 with an easier stretch to finish.

[Jarius]

Gotta beat OM. If we do, that's 5-2 in sec. If we could somehow win 2 of the sec games above, that would give us a 7-5 sec record after 12 games. At worst, we have to win 1, that leaves us at 6-6 with an easier stretch to finish.

I’m going to watch our entire game against OM. I’ve probably watched 5 games of Howland’s tenure. Every time we get a little momentum I watch and then we lose and I quit watching. Y’all can blame me for the OM loss coming up.

[R2Dawg]

But ya know what? This team plays hard. This team doesnt fight over the ball and shots. They represent our school well. We've missed that for a decade.

Yep, and I'll take that all day.

[R2Dawg]

This is not a normal season with teams missing games and playing less games than normal. This next 3 weeks will give us a decent idea of where we are.

Yes it is from our 3-7 team getting a bowl. We have two good wins Mizzou and UF and several good losses. Just need some more quality wins.