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DLGDawg
01-12-2021, 07:25 PM
Per 247 LSU site
https://247sports.com/college/lsu/Article/Zach-Arnett-not-expected-to-become-LSU-defensive-coordinator-159152553/

Ari Gold
01-12-2021, 07:27 PM
Didn’t understand the fit from the start
3/3/5 isn’t a LSU style
Texas On the other hand... I can see the fit ..

And we need to get ahead of this... PR it out that Arnett turned them down..
good luck with us being proactive

DLGDawg
01-12-2021, 07:29 PM
Didn’t understand the fit from the start
3/3/5 isn’t a LSU style
Texas On the other hand... I can see the fit ..

And we need to get ahead of this... PR it out that Arnett turned them down..
good luck with us being proactive

Yeah. Screw LSU and feed em' fish heads.

BuckyIsAB****
01-12-2021, 07:46 PM
I would think the Texas ship has sailed but I have been wrong before

defiantdog
01-12-2021, 07:48 PM
I would think the Texas ship has sailed but I have been wrong before
Doubt it..... Sark isn't retaining Ash so we'll see.

Cooterpoot
01-12-2021, 07:49 PM
Doubt it..... Sark isn't retaining Ash so we'll see.

Golding to TX. Strong takes over at AL.

MetEdDawg
01-12-2021, 07:50 PM
I winder if these schools are thinking they can get him to switch his defensive philosophy to fit more with what they like and know and he's saying no.

You don't get the interviews he's gotten and keep getting passed up unless there's some sticking point. I just wonder if they want him to move off the 3-3-5 and he's not willing to.

msstate7
01-12-2021, 07:52 PM
Golding to TX. Strong takes over at AL.

You serious? That would be a ballsy move. DC under saban is a HC job almost guaranteed

msstate7
01-12-2021, 07:53 PM
I winder if these schools are thinking they can get him to switch his defensive philosophy to fit more with what they like and know and he's saying no.

You don't get the interviews he's gotten and keep getting passed up unless there's some sticking point. I just wonder if they want him to move off the 3-3-5 and he's not willing to.

I wouldn't run that defense at LSU. I'd be much more traditional bc you'll have big time talent.

DLGDawg
01-12-2021, 07:55 PM
I winder if these schools are thinking they can get him to switch his defensive philosophy to fit more with what they like and know and he's saying no.

You don't get the interviews he's gotten and keep getting passed up unless there's some sticking point. I just wonder if they want him to move off the 3-3-5 and he's not willing to.

Could be that Arnett is saying thanks but no thanks.

Really likes his situation with Leach and having full control of the defense. That's worth a good chunk of money by itself IMO.

msstate7
01-12-2021, 08:01 PM
Could be that Arnett is saying thanks but no thanks.

Really likes his situation with Leach and having full control of the defense. That's worth a good chunk of money by itself IMO.

Could be. I don't think you interview this much though unless you really interested in moving on.

basedog
01-12-2021, 08:14 PM
Could be. I don't think you interview this much though unless you really interested in moving on.

Only schools I he interviewed was Lsu today. Maybe he talked to some others on phone but actual interview? Tell me who?

Todd4State
01-12-2021, 08:30 PM
You serious? That would be a ballsy move. DC under saban is a HC job almost guaranteed

Pruitt may be available soon.

Cooterpoot
01-12-2021, 08:48 PM
You serious? That would be a ballsy move. DC under saban is a HC job almost guaranteed

Not everyone in T Town was happy with Golding and he's tight with Sark. His defense wasn't one of their best. Nothing is done but that's my bet.

Coach34
01-12-2021, 08:52 PM
Not everyone in T Town was happy with Golding and he's tight with Sark. His defense wasn't one of their best. Nothing is done but that's my bet.

Bama wasnt running Golding's defense. Bama runs Saban's D. The DC gets his orders and makes calls based on film and tendencies- but Nick Saban still runs the Bama D.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
01-12-2021, 08:55 PM
I winder if these schools are thinking they can get him to switch his defensive philosophy to fit more with what they like and know and he's saying no.

You don't get the interviews he's gotten and keep getting passed up unless there's some sticking point. I just wonder if they want him to move off the 3-3-5 and he's not willing to.

Probably a combination. I've heard he's a different dude and might not come across as a people person lol. Apparently very demanding and confident which may be an issue for a young coach in interviews.

Medic601
01-13-2021, 01:15 AM
I would think the Texas ship has sailed but I have been wrong before

I have no authority or anything what so ever but I feel the same. If he felt Texas was a solid option, would he still be interviewing other places? I have a gut feeling the Texas ship has sailed as well.

Medic601
01-13-2021, 01:17 AM
Could be. I don't think you interview this much though unless you really interested in moving on.

But he is also super young and was a no name coach 1-1.5 years ago and all of a sudden was thrust into the big leagues and now has LSU, Texas, Notre Dame, and who knows who else calling. Maybe he’s just really enjoying interviewing and seeing all this blue bloods clammer over him.

Dawgology
01-13-2021, 01:21 AM
Could be. I don't think you interview this much though unless you really interested in moving on.

I always take interviews if a company comes to me. You never know their offer until you really talk with them. Turning down a few also gets the word out on what your price tag is or what you are looking for.

Dawgology
01-13-2021, 01:23 AM
But he is also super young and was a no name coach 1-1.5 years ago and all of a sudden was thrust into the big leagues and now has LSU, Texas, Notre Dame, and who knows who else calling. Maybe he’s just really enjoying interviewing and seeing all this blue bloods clammer over him.

Or they are interviewing him and realizing he needs a couple more years until he?s ready. Those meteoric rises too fast often end in collapse.

Todd4State
01-13-2021, 03:08 AM
I winder if these schools are thinking they can get him to switch his defensive philosophy to fit more with what they like and know and he's saying no.

You don't get the interviews he's gotten and keep getting passed up unless there's some sticking point. I just wonder if they want him to move off the 3-3-5 and he's not willing to.

While I agree- you have to give Cohen credit also for the buyout that is making it difficult for teams to poach him from us. I have to think that is some of it.

And yeah- we still may lose him but at least we made it very difficult for blue bloods to take him and basically eliminated lateral moves like South Carolina.

It would be really good if he left us and went straight to being a head coach for somebody.

CovertDawg
01-13-2021, 09:05 AM
It is possible they view his scheme as high risk/high reward which is great if your team is trying to go 9 and 3....but if it costs you 1 or 2 games at LSU and a chance at a national title then they will want to run Arnett out of town. I am not saying this is the correct take but blue bloods tend to be more conservative because of their talent level.

Hot Rock
01-13-2021, 11:29 AM
He is an up and coming coach getting a lot of attention but he has really only gone to one interview right? I agree with the others that said his style really should not be the blue bloods go to style of defense.

If you get the best talent, why would you run such a risky defense? I don't see them actually coming after him after just one year.

If he leaves, it will be our loss but every good program loses coaches. How many OC's and DC's has Saban been through? People love to hire someone that has been involved in the day to day operations of a good program.

That's the thing about Leach, I don't think he will have an issue getting a good DC to replace him even if he does. Mississippi State has proven that if you come here, you can do well as a DC.

msbulldog
01-13-2021, 01:27 PM
Doubt it..... Sark isn't retaining Ash so we'll see.

Texas board member thinks Sarks waiting for the NFL to finish.

Cooterpoot
01-13-2021, 02:04 PM
Texas board member thinks Sarks waiting for the NFL to finish.

Thought he was getting Quinn but Dallas killed that.

Cooterpoot
01-13-2021, 02:08 PM
Bama wasnt running Golding's defense. Bama runs Saban's D. The DC gets his orders and makes calls based on film and tendencies- but Nick Saban still runs the Bama D.

The DC still takes the heat and ire of the fans, as well as the ass chewing from Saban. Rumors have been out there that Saban wasn't happy with the defense. Been a lot of chatter. We shall see. Hard to complain when you're winning titles.

Cowbell
01-13-2021, 02:20 PM
Thought he was getting Quinn but Dallas killed that.

Huge move by McCarthy

basedog
01-13-2021, 02:21 PM
To add to the rumor about Arnett and Lsu. My Lsu buddy says this so take it as another rumor true or not. First, AD didn't want to pay the buyut and another $2 million dollar contract. Second, O wants some coach on the Saints defense to be his DC and is waiting for the playoffs to finish. Third, O is under pressure to hire a minority to be DC. Fourth, Arnett's personality didn't come off as a "people person" (Ha like Pelino was). And 5th, Arnett's 3-3-5, wasn't willing to change, cough cough. So pick your rumor coming from a Lsu buddy. He was disappointed Arnett didn't get the job.

But something was said from either side that didn't go in the right direction. Glad he is still at StarkVegas.

DLGDawg
01-13-2021, 02:52 PM
To add to the rumor about Arnett and Lsu. My Lsu buddy says this so take it as another rumor true or not. First, AD didn't want to pay the buyut and another $2 million dollar contract. Second, O wants some coach on the Saints defense to be his DC and is waiting for the playoffs to finish. Third, O is under pressure to hire a minority to be DC. Fourth, Arnett's personality didn't come off as a "people person" (Ha like Pelino was). And 5th, Arnett's 3-3-5, wasn't willing to change, cough cough. So pick your rumor coming from a Lsu buddy. He was disappointed Arnett didn't get the job.

But something was said from either side that didn't go in the right direction. Glad he is still at StarkVegas.

All of that sounds reasonable.

In the end, I believe it's just been unfortunate for us(or fortunate for some) that, of the 10 or so schools that Arnett WOULD leave for, approximately 40% of them have a vacancy at DC.

The South Carolina thing is still a head scratcher though. Maybe that was just a "get my name out there" thing being a young DC. And it just happened that the next possibilities were all places that he would have left for.

Either way, looks like we're going to weather this storm and keep a DC for year 2.

basedog
01-13-2021, 02:59 PM
All of that sounds reasonable.

In the end, I believe it's just been unfortunate for us(or fortunate for some) that, of the 10 or so schools that Arnett WOULD leave for, approximately 40% of them have a vacancy at DC.

The South Carolina thing is still a head scratcher though. Maybe that was just a "get my name out there" thing being a young DC. And it just happened that the next possibilities were all places that he would have left for.

Either way, looks like we're going to weather this storm and keep a DC for year 2.

I'm not buying Arnett is looking to leave, I think schools have reached out to him, the only "real" interview was yesterday at Red Stick. I see no problem with him going and looking around. You never know what someone will offer if you don't listen. Maybe he will go on another interview, to me it speaks well of him having schools interested. I do think he had an interest in Lsu, going and seeing and listening first hand made either Lsu or Arnett seeing the light.

DLGDawg
01-13-2021, 03:23 PM
I'm not buying Arnett is looking to leave, I think schools have reached out to him, the only "real" interview was yesterday at Red Stick. I see no problem with him going and looking around. You never know what someone will offer if you don't listen. Maybe he will go on another interview, to me it speaks well of him having schools interested. I do think he had an interest in Lsu, going and seeing and listening first hand made either Lsu or Arnett seeing the light.

I agree. I don't think he was looking to leave at all. Just happened that, after SC, the schools who came calling were blue bloods.

Todd4State
01-13-2021, 05:55 PM
All of that sounds reasonable.

In the end, I believe it's just been unfortunate for us(or fortunate for some) that, of the 10 or so schools that Arnett WOULD leave for, approximately 40% of them have a vacancy at DC.

The South Carolina thing is still a head scratcher though. Maybe that was just a "get my name out there" thing being a young DC. And it just happened that the next possibilities were all places that he would have left for.

Either way, looks like we're going to weather this storm and keep a DC for year 2.

Knowing that Beamer has family ties to MSU it does make some sense that he would reach out the way he did.

Dannyripms
01-14-2021, 03:58 AM
Does anyone know what Arnette's new contract with us is worth? I couldn't remember if that was public or not.