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RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 05:52 PM
Starts at 5 p.m. on SECN.

Ari Gold
01-10-2021, 06:29 PM
Just turned the game on
12-12 end of the first..

Wonder if JC is getting a few texts right now???

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 06:32 PM
We look pathetic. Jackson a no show again.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 06:33 PM
If something don't change at half, we ain't winning this game. We have 3 times the talent as Olemiss but ain't playing like it.

ZedFedder
01-10-2021, 06:34 PM
I’ve given her a pass, but you lose this game and she will have a hard time ever having the fans on her side.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 06:34 PM
Matharu should almost never come out of game. We totally mismanage her playing time. Her and Carter are our best players.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 06:36 PM
I’ve given her a pass, but you lose this game and she will have a hard time ever having the fans on her side.

I am looking at it just like any new coach we get; evaluate one game at a time and the conclusion doesn't come one game but over time. The trend is concerning, still games to play, maybe we find our way.

DCdawg
01-10-2021, 06:42 PM
We look pathetic. Jackson a no show again.

After the progress she made over last season, it's really disappointing that she isn't making more of an impact right now.

Todd4State
01-10-2021, 06:48 PM
I am looking at it just like any new coach we get; evaluate one game at a time and the conclusion doesn't come one game but over time. The trend is concerning, still games to play, maybe we find our way.

You've been bashing Leach all year.

ZedFedder
01-10-2021, 06:50 PM
I will say that OM is much improved. This isn’t the same poor OM that we beat by 40 every year. But... We are 20 points more talented. Can’t lose this one. And I don’t think we will.

jdelta02
01-10-2021, 06:57 PM
Halftime
Miss. State 31
Ole Miss 27

Aliyah Matharu 11 pts (2 fouls)
Jessika Carter 8 pts

Note...
Rickea Jackson with 0 points in the first half

maroonmania
01-10-2021, 06:57 PM
This is called the equilibrium rule of MSU sports. For the men's basketball program to get unexpectedly better this year the women's program has to decline.

NCMSTFAN
01-10-2021, 06:59 PM
You guys do realize that Ole Miss recruited well lately and have some top 60 players now, plus a better coach. Nobody will lay down for us.... Alot of you are waiting to see her fail unfortunately

Dawgology
01-10-2021, 07:01 PM
You guys do realize that Ole Miss recruited well lately and have some top 60 players now, plus a better coach. Nobody will lay down for us.... Alot of you are waiting to see her fail unfortunately

I think women?s basketball in the SEC has improved across the board. That is largely due to the success of MSU and SC.

confucius say
01-10-2021, 07:07 PM
You guys do realize that Ole Miss recruited well lately and have some top 60 players now, plus a better coach. Nobody will lay down for us.... Alot of you are waiting to see her fail unfortunately

Yea OM is better.

We've regressed tremendously. We are not tough. We have no identity offensively. Our rotations are garbage, as noted above. Things that can change, but it needs to start changing. Start by leaving martharu on the floor

Santiago
01-10-2021, 07:08 PM
You guys do realize that Ole Miss recruited well lately and have some top 60 players now, plus a better coach. Nobody will lay down for us.... Alot of you are waiting to see her fail unfortunately

MSU also recruited well, have one or 2 McD's all Merica players, and top players. Ole Miss has hardly been able to practice lately due to all the Covid, and were unsure even tonight who would be in their lineup.
What is wrong with calling this mess out , that on paper it should not be close and we are not playing as strong as we once did with a previous coach?

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 07:16 PM
You've been bashing Leach all year.

Total lie. I call it like I see it. I want all our coaches to succeed, but when they don't I don't look the other way either. I've said over and over, Leach may figure it out that we'll see.

Quit being such a thin skinned Leach defender. I guess you think Croom and JoMo are best coaches we have ever had?

NCMSTFAN
01-10-2021, 07:20 PM
MSU also recruited well, have one or 2 McD's all Merica players, and top players. Ole Miss has hardly been able to practice lately due to all the Covid, and were unsure even tonight who would be in their lineup.
What is wrong with calling this mess out , that on paper it should not be close and we are not playing as strong as we once did with a previous coach?

What are you calling out? Vic had some issues with this team also.. And on paper Ole Miss is 7-1 with the only loss against LSU in overtime.. Games will be close sometimes, nobody is going to lay down and let us beat them. Im standing by this team regardless

ZedFedder
01-10-2021, 07:20 PM
Rickea is mental right now. Got to get out of her slump.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 07:22 PM
I think women?s basketball in the SEC has improved across the board. That is largely due to the success of MSU and SC.

This is true.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 07:23 PM
Rickea is mental right now. Got to get out of her slump.

Yes it is, her body language is bad now.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 07:23 PM
We're shooting better in the 2nd half. I was beginning to wonder if we were ever going to make a FG for a while.

The announcer (Tiffany Greene?) is terrible. How'd they ever hire her?

Ari Gold
01-10-2021, 07:25 PM
You guys do realize that Ole Miss recruited well lately and have some top 60 players now, plus a better coach. Nobody will lay down for us.... Alot of you are waiting to see her fail unfortunately

They are 1-24 their last 25..
they couldn’t get any worse or get worse players

NCMSTFAN
01-10-2021, 07:29 PM
I think women?s basketball in the SEC has improved across the board. That is largely due to the success of MSU and SC.

I agree, UK, Texas A&M, OM, Arky, LSU of course USC all have good teams

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 07:38 PM
Matharu out again and we are losing it. Is she hurt?

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 07:39 PM
Jackson needs to sit

maroonmania
01-10-2021, 07:40 PM
Working hard to lose this one. We haven't gotten a decent shot in the last 5 possessions and are playing lousy defense.

ZedFedder
01-10-2021, 07:40 PM
We were up 12 this quarter, too.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 07:40 PM
Matharu out again and we are losing it. Is she hurt?

Don't know, but she needs to go back in if not hurt. We're in the midst of blowing a big lead.

maroonmania
01-10-2021, 07:41 PM
What are we trying to do on offense? I really can't tell.

confucius say
01-10-2021, 07:42 PM
We have zero offensive identity. Just hope for a 3 or a stick back.

This next 4 minutes is huge for this season and this program. Let's go ladies!

confucius say
01-10-2021, 07:43 PM
What are we trying to do on offense? I really can't tell.

Nobody can.

KOdawg1
01-10-2021, 07:44 PM
Lazy, uninspired basketball. The aggression is gone.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 07:45 PM
The girls can't make free throws either.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 07:46 PM
No urgency. Jackson just standing around. Pouting playing. Matharu is playing to win, great hustle.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 07:46 PM
We're lucky not to be down by 10 now. They can't shoot either.

maroonmania
01-10-2021, 07:46 PM
Have our girls ever shot a basketball before?

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 07:47 PM
Lazy, uninspired basketball. The aggression is gone.

So for the thin skinned folks but Vic would be ripping a few a new one; some would not be on floor.

ZedFedder
01-10-2021, 07:48 PM
The attitude really ticks me off because you never saw that with Vic. They’d be off the floor.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
01-10-2021, 07:48 PM
But that's what happens when you can't separate coach from friend.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 07:48 PM
So for the thin skinned folks but Vic would be ripping a few a new one; some would not be on floor.

Why'd they move the coach's sideline to the camera side? Was it so we can't see the coaches?

ZedFedder
01-10-2021, 07:49 PM
WHY ARE WE JUST STANDING AROUND.

maroonmania
01-10-2021, 07:49 PM
Win or lose this is AWFUL!

ZedFedder
01-10-2021, 07:50 PM
But that's what happens when you can't separate coach from friend.

I’m scared we have Moorhead 2.0.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 07:50 PM
Both Maya Taylor and Matharu are hustling. The rest are not.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 07:50 PM
Win or lose this is AWFUL!

Looks like a high school, maybe junior high school, game.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 07:52 PM
This is why I could care less about high school all American or 5 star or whatever. Too much attitude.

Leeshouldveflanked
01-10-2021, 07:52 PM
These are two very poorly coached teams... but Ole Miss at least hustles.

Santiago
01-10-2021, 07:53 PM
What are we trying to do on offense? I really can't tell.

We dribble so much, maybe for home games play the globetrotters song "sweet Georgia Brown"

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 07:53 PM
I’m scared we have Moorhead 2.0.

My fear as well on one of our best programs on campus.

Cooterpoot
01-10-2021, 07:54 PM
We made a horrible hire. These girls are standing around. Not running offensive sets at all. Nobody inside the arc rebounding. There's nothing good to see with this team. It's really sad to see how far we've fallen off.

Santiago
01-10-2021, 07:54 PM
This is why I could care less about high school all American or 5 star or whatever. Too much attitude.

Our freshman , who was a HS All American, is a good player, and is not from what I saw of her in HS an attitude. She will be a special player. But yeah I hear you on the typical types though.

maroonmania
01-10-2021, 07:54 PM
One of the worst 4th Q of basketball I have ever seen.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 07:54 PM
The intentional fouls should be called as such and given free throws.

KOdawg1
01-10-2021, 07:56 PM
I've never had a win feel this much like a loss before.

ZedFedder
01-10-2021, 07:56 PM
Frustrating win. I’m glad it’s win, though. Also, we freaking watch balls off the rim. We don’t hustle after them. AHHHHH

confucius say
01-10-2021, 07:56 PM
Winning beats losing.
But wow. Thank goodness OM was short handed tonight.

I actually think we do play with effort. But playing with purpose is different than playing with effort. And we don't play with purpose. NMP better get it together

shoeless joe
01-10-2021, 07:57 PM
Lack of intensity on the defensive end carried over to lackadaisical play on the offensive end. Without the full court press we lose a lot. Just like I said early season, we turned close losses into blowouts because of the pressure we maintained the whole game.

Also, during that horrid 4th quarter drought we shoulda called a timeout and drawn up a play goin toward the basket.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 07:57 PM
I've never had a win feel this much like a loss before.

It's because we should have won by 25. Don't know what our shooting percentage was but it had to be in the 20s.

Todd4State
01-10-2021, 07:58 PM
Total lie. I call it like I see it. I want all our coaches to succeed, but when they don't I don't look the other way either. I've said over and over, Leach may figure it out that we'll see.

Quit being such a thin skinned Leach defender. I guess you think Croom and JoMo are best coaches we have ever had?

Care to explain this?

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?83946-Maroon-Uni-s-for-Armed-Forces-Bowl/page9

"Oh, no you have to research Leach. The run is hard to teach and execute; he is going to work that run in by year 2 or 3. Work on the pass first. Oh wait, the pass ain't doing squat either. So what is Leach coaching us on?"

I'm not thin skinned. I just think it's ridiculous that fans like you aren't patient given Leach's recorded track record- and then saying "Just calling it like I see it". Especially given the improvement at the end of the year.

maroonmania
01-10-2021, 07:59 PM
We actually looked like a decent team in the 3rd Q. I don't what in the heck that was in the 4th.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 08:01 PM
Anyone hear the comment about some player (I think plays for Olemiss) who only wanted to play for a black woman coach? I don't understand why it matters what gender or color a coach is? Women coaching women I guess I can see some but don't understand the racial comment?

ZedFedder
01-10-2021, 08:01 PM
We actually looked like a decent team in the 3rd Q. I don't what in the heck that was in the 4th.

It’s because we started pouting.

TimberBeast
01-10-2021, 08:04 PM
Anyone hear the comment about some player (I think plays for Olemiss) who only wanted to play for a black woman coach? I don't understand why it matters what gender or color a coach is? Women coaching women I guess I can see some but don't understand the racial comment?

You?re not supposed to talk about that.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 08:05 PM
Care to explain this?

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?83946-Maroon-Uni-s-for-Armed-Forces-Bowl/page9

"Oh, no you have to research Leach. The run is hard to teach and execute; he is going to work that run in by year 2 or 3. Work on the pass first. Oh wait, the pass ain't doing squat either. So what is Leach coaching us on?"

I'm not thin skinned. I just think it's ridiculous that fans like you aren't patient given Leach's recorded track record- and then saying "Just calling it like I see it". Especially given the improvement at the end of the year.

I can't judge year 2 since it hasn't happened yet. You are defending a year that hasn't happened yet. How about staying in real world like what has happened. Quit trying to turn everything around. Croom was a great great coach, we just didn't wait for year 10 where Croom said he would figure it out.

If he turns it around, then great. I have no personal thing against Leach but he has deserved every bit of criticism. I have only repeated what the football experts have said. I am not out in left field. Sorry play again.

Saltydog
01-10-2021, 08:05 PM
It doesn't matter and shouldn't matter but it's part of the cancel culture. Get used to it. It's gonna get a lot worse before it gets better.

BeardoMSU
01-10-2021, 08:05 PM
Anyone hear the comment about some player (I think plays for Olemiss) who only wanted to play for a black woman coach? I don't understand why it matters what gender or color a coach is? Women coaching women I guess I can see some but don't understand the racial comment?

Well, their last coach was literally Eddie Munster, so I can understand them being a little jaded.**

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/VTxD3jJnSeDRQ0NCe_1ig6TPMho=/0x0:1024x1024/1400x1400/filters:focal(431x431:593x593):format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/52783425/Matt_Insell_insane_corrected.0.jpg

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 08:06 PM
Anyone hear the comment about some player (I think plays for Olemiss) who only wanted to play for a black woman coach? I don't understand why it matters what gender or color a coach is? Women coaching women I guess I can see some but don't understand the racial comment?

Yes, I noticed that. A white player would be crucified if he/she said they would only play for a white male (or female) coach. And a white announcer would probably be fired for repeating what they said.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 08:08 PM
You?re not supposed to talk about that.

Maybe not but the announcers brought it up. I just didn't understand the reason or why?

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 08:09 PM
Well, their last coach was literally Eddie Munster, so I can understand them being a little jaded.**

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/VTxD3jJnSeDRQ0NCe_1ig6TPMho=/0x0:1024x1024/1400x1400/filters:focal(431x431:593x593):format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/52783425/Matt_Insell_insane_corrected.0.jpg

Ha, I agree with that.

BeardoMSU
01-10-2021, 08:12 PM
Ha, I agree with that.

Aye, lol.

Looking at that center picture, and I realize his last name being close to "incel" as very apropos.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 08:13 PM
It doesn't matter and shouldn't matter but it's part of the cancel culture. Get used to it. It's gonna get a lot worse before it gets better.

Yeah I know, folks should be nervous about what is happening but most seen ignorant of freedoms disappearing before their eyes.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 08:15 PM
Well, their last coach was literally Eddie Munster, so I can understand them being a little jaded.**

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/VTxD3jJnSeDRQ0NCe_1ig6TPMho=/0x0:1024x1024/1400x1400/filters:focal(431x431:593x593):format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/52783425/Matt_Insell_insane_corrected.0.jpg

Was always afraid his eyes might just pop right out of his head. Where'd he go? Still in coaching?

Ari Gold
01-10-2021, 08:15 PM
Not sure what needs to be fixed or what needs to be done but it better get done quickly..
I admit I’m not a huge Women’s hoops follower even when Vic was here and we were rolling... but I would watch because the product on the court then was worth watching..
This tonight wasn’t

It’s damn near almost impossible to lose the majority of a fan base in 10 games.
But This was really close...

jdelta02
01-10-2021, 08:17 PM
Final
Miss. State 60
Ole Miss 56

Jessika Carter 19 pts, 9 rbs, 1 blk
Aliyah Matharu 16 pts, 4 assists
Myah Taylor 10 pts, 8 assists, 4 stls

(Notes) Ole Miss out rebounded Miss. State 39 to 29 and 10 offensive rebounds to 7. Rickea Jackson finished with 9 pts (3-13 fg, 1-5 from 3 poont, 5 rbs..though onl 1 turnover) after ending the first half with 0 points.

My opinion, Aliyah Matharu...is one of the top 3 offensive options for this team. At this point Jessika Carter is the primary option followed by either Jackson or Matharu (either or).

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
01-10-2021, 08:17 PM
It doesn't matter and shouldn't matter but it's part of the cancel culture. Get used to it. It's gonna get a lot worse before it gets better.

Oh well. Guess we can find something else to do. After seeing that, I went and looked at our roster. A lot of diversity in our lineup and I'm sure the locker room isn't an echo chamber.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 08:18 PM
Not sure what needs to be fixed or what needs to be done but it better get done quickly..
I admit I’m not a huge Women’s hoops follower even when Vic was here and we were rolling... but I would watch because the product on the court then was worth watching..
This tonight wasn’t

It’s damn near almost impossible to lose the majority of a fan base in 10 games.
But This was really close...

I suspect the loss of the fanbase, considering the difference in coaching along with Covid, will be almost total before long. They might be giving away free tickets again next year for women's basketball if it's not fixed.

Todd4State
01-10-2021, 08:18 PM
I can't judge year 2 since it hasn't happened yet. You are defending a year that hasn't happened yet. How about staying in real world like what has happened. Quit trying to turn everything around. Croom was a great great coach, we just didn't wait for year 10 where Croom said he would figure it out.

If he turns it around, then great. I have no personal thing against Leach but he has deserved every bit of criticism. I have only repeated what the football experts have said. I am not out in left field. Sorry play again.

I'm not talking about Croom. I'm talking about going by historical data and using that as a predictor and as a reason to be patient.

And football experts? Most of them are saying this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp5khaw_fe0

Todd4State
01-10-2021, 08:19 PM
Not sure what needs to be fixed or what needs to be done but it better get done quickly..
I admit I’m not a huge Women’s hoops follower even when Vic was here and we were rolling... but I would watch because the product on the court then was worth watching..
This tonight wasn’t

It’s damn near almost impossible to lose the majority of a fan base in 10 games.
But This was really close...

Cohen doing Cohen things and hiring a player's coach who wants to be their friend and not their coach.

TimberBeast
01-10-2021, 08:24 PM
Cohen doing Cohen things and hiring a player's coach who wants to be their friend and not their coach.

I don?t think he even put that much thought into it.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
01-10-2021, 08:27 PM
I don?t think he even put that much thought into it.

Of course he didn't, Nelle did. Are AD wives usually this visible in the department? I don't remember any others recently.

maroonmania
01-10-2021, 08:28 PM
It’s because we started pouting.

Pouting over a 12 point lead??

I know hiring a new HC during a pandemic can't be the easiest but I continue to think we may have been better off just turning the reigns over to Johnnie Harris and seeing if she could continue the culture Vic had instilled. I mean Harris would have still been a black female HC.

Todd4State
01-10-2021, 08:39 PM
I don?t think he even put that much thought into it.

Probably not. I don't know what he looks at.

TimberBeast
01-10-2021, 08:39 PM
Maybe not but the announcers brought it up. I just didn't understand the reason or why?

Well it will likely be illegal to ask those questions before long, need to start getting used to it.

TimberBeast
01-10-2021, 08:40 PM
Probably not. I don't know what he looks at.

I think it?s obvious.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 08:44 PM
I'm not talking about Croom. I'm talking about going by historical data and using that as a predictor and as a reason to be patient.

And football experts? Most of them are saying this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp5khaw_fe0

OK, so maybe you didn't follow MSU football when Croom was here but that reference was about just wait till next year, and it takes time to build a program. 5 years was not enough, give him 10. Hence your reference to read to book, wait till next year, etc. Now you get it?

You must not watch much SEC football. Every single game of ours this year the experts said the same thing. They said it before Leach even coached a game, Leach didn't disappoint and they said it all year. Post season they still saying it.

Can you find one person to says something different, sure. You keep bringing up exceptions. I am going with the flow on this one not because it is what I want, it is because I agree with it. If Leach adapts he will win, if not he will go down in flames. Hope he adjusts and succeeds. Guess what he adjusted the last few games and guess what, we looked better.

R2Dawg
01-10-2021, 08:45 PM
Well it will likely be illegal to ask those questions before long, need to start getting used to it.

This board will be shut down before long, cancel culture is on the prowl.

We are all going to have to figure out what we are willing to live with or without. The time is coming.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
01-10-2021, 08:48 PM
This board will be shut down before long, cancel culture is on the prowl.

We are all going to have to figure out what we are willing to live with or without. The time is coming.

I've got friends trying to do a benefit shoot for a recently deceased friend of a friend and they keep getting censored for "political" actions....wtf??

PGHBulldogBG
01-10-2021, 08:58 PM
Cohen lost me when he went with Moorhead and had Brown in the state next door waiting for a p5 gig.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 08:58 PM
I've got friends trying to do a benefit shoot for a recently deceased friend of a friend and they keep getting censored for "political" actions....wtf??

Really? That's ridiculous.

RocketDawg
01-10-2021, 09:00 PM
This board will be shut down before long, cancel culture is on the prowl.

We are all going to have to figure out what we are willing to live with or without. The time is coming.

I wonder how BDC donations are going this year?

ZedFedder
01-10-2021, 09:01 PM
It’s funny Cohen hired Moorhead and NMP (if this doesn’t work out) because Cohen was definitely not that kind of friend coach.

NCMSTFAN
01-10-2021, 09:05 PM
I wish people would stop alluding to race and politics.... be a fan of all of our programs or dont!! I dont necessarily agree with everything Leach has said but I'm behind him 100% as I have been with all our coaches.

Dawgology
01-10-2021, 09:42 PM
Anyways. Back to the game. Solid win by the WBB team. Hail state.

TimberBeast
01-10-2021, 09:57 PM
Anyways. Back to the game. Solid win by the WBB team. Hail state.

Solid?

Dawgbite
01-10-2021, 10:11 PM
Solid?

Yeah, like a six inch turd!

Todd4State
01-10-2021, 10:48 PM
OK, so maybe you didn't follow MSU football when Croom was here but that reference was about just wait till next year, and it takes time to build a program. 5 years was not enough, give him 10. Hence your reference to read to book, wait till next year, etc. Now you get it?

You must not watch much SEC football. Every single game of ours this year the experts said the same thing. They said it before Leach even coached a game, Leach didn't disappoint and they said it all year. Post season they still saying it.

Can you find one person to says something different, sure. You keep bringing up exceptions. I am going with the flow on this one not because it is what I want, it is because I agree with it. If Leach adapts he will win, if not he will go down in flames. Hope he adjusts and succeeds. Guess what he adjusted the last few games and guess what, we looked better.

Croom absolutely scarred our fans for life to the point where building a program now automatically somehow means we should wait seven years when literally everyone else is saying 2-3. Which is very reasonable and whole lot different than seven. What you don't get is Leach has an actual track record to go off of. Croom didn't.

"Adjusted" = the offensive line finally figured out how to block three people which as Wyatt pointed out is again in line with Leach's progression.

But yeah- I should listen to the "football experts" who work for the company that hates Leach and thinks that our "brawl" with Tulsa was entirely his fault despite it being VERY obvious it wasn't.**

Dawgology
01-10-2021, 11:35 PM
Solid?

Yes. Ole Miss has a MUCH better coach and are much more talented than last year. It?s a game we should have won (and we did) against a squad that is going to surprise a lot of teams this season. And we did it with one of our best players playing one of her worst games of the season so far. Matharu came off the bench and played excellent.

Dawg2003
01-10-2021, 11:49 PM
Pouting over a 12 point lead??

I know hiring a new HC during a pandemic can't be the easiest but I continue to think we may have been better off just turning the reigns over to Johnnie Harris and seeing if she could continue the culture Vic had instilled. I mean Harris would have still been a black female HC.

One thing that worried me about Johnnie was that people said she was the good cop to Vic's bad cop.

Cooterpoot
01-10-2021, 11:52 PM
Yes. Ole Miss has a MUCH better coach and are much more talented than last year. It?s a game we should have won (and we did) against a squad that is going to surprise a lot of teams this season. And we did it with one of our best players playing one of her worst games of the season so far. Matharu came off the bench and played excellent.

We're the only ranked team they've played and they played an extra game this week. There's no excuse for the poor coaching/play we've seen. None

TimberBeast
01-10-2021, 11:53 PM
Yes. Ole Miss has a MUCH better coach and are much more talented than last year. It?s a game we should have won (and we did) against a squad that is going to surprise a lot of teams this season. And we did it with one of our best players playing one of her worst games of the season so far. Matharu came off the bench and played excellent.

I?m always amazed when people tell me about a game that they didn?t watch.

Dawg2003
01-10-2021, 11:56 PM
Anyone hear the comment about some player (I think plays for Olemiss) who only wanted to play for a black woman coach? I don't understand why it matters what gender or color a coach is? Women coaching women I guess I can see some but don't understand the racial comment?

Probably because black people have been purposely denied civil rights for a large part of our country's history, so it's good that black women are now allowed to coach in the SEC. So Shakira Austin probably wanted to show her support for a black coach.

Dawg2003
01-10-2021, 11:59 PM
Yes, I noticed that. A white player would be crucified if he/she said they would only play for a white male (or female) coach. And a white announcer would probably be fired for repeating what they said.

Yeah, but that's because of the history of white nationalist groups like the Klan in our country. There's a very different history behind, for instance, an all white college and an all black college.

jdelta02
01-11-2021, 12:00 AM
Miss. State women's basketball team is
2 points from being undefeated on the season. No team has beaten them in regulation (2 halves of play). The margin between having 2 losses and being undefeated has been extremely thin. Despite not being at or near their best, Coach McCray-Penson has had this team in position to win every game this season...just fell short by a couple points total (regulation).

Dawgology
01-11-2021, 12:06 AM
I?m always amazed when people tell me about a game that they didn?t watch.

I watched the entire game.

Cooterpoot
01-11-2021, 12:09 AM
Miss. State women's basketball team is
2 points from being undefeated on the season.

Your math is incorrect.

TimberBeast
01-11-2021, 12:10 AM
I watched the entire game.

Ole Miss improved coach played for the last shot down 2 points with a full shot clock. She handed us the game on our court. They had the momentum, the last 5 minutes of the game we were awful. The first two quarters awful. What part did you watch?

TimberBeast
01-11-2021, 12:11 AM
Your math is incorrect.

He has a whole lot of incorrect.

jdelta02
01-11-2021, 12:16 AM
Your math is incorrect.

- Needed 1 point to beat South Florida in regulation
- Needed 1 point to beat Kentucky in regulation

Total of 2 points

Dawgology
01-11-2021, 12:19 AM
Ole Miss improved coach played for the last shot down 2 points with a full shot clock. She handed us the game on our court. They had the momentum, the last 5 minutes of the game we were awful. The first two quarters awful. What part did you watch?

Ok. Go be miserable and cry about Vic Schafer. Maybe he will come back if you pout hard enough.

Cooterpoot
01-11-2021, 12:20 AM
- Needed 1 point to beat South Florida in regulation
- Needed 1 point to beat Kentucky in regulation

Total of 2 points

LOL!! If that's what you want to think. We only needed 1 more point that everybody we played in football and we'd be undefeated.

TimberBeast
01-11-2021, 12:26 AM
Ok. Go be miserable and cry about Vic Schafer. Maybe he will come back if you pout hard enough.

Where did I say anything about Vic? You didn?t watch the game and came here acting like you did. I actually did watch it and it was awful on both sides. They had us beat, their coach isn?t good either.

jdelta02
01-11-2021, 12:34 AM
LOL!! If that's what you want to think. We only needed 1 more point that everybody we played in football and we'd be undefeated.

Both games (losses) were tied in regulation, then went to overtime where they were eventually lost. A minimum of 1 additional point in each regulation would have resulted in wins (both games)...total of 2 points.

Dawgology
01-11-2021, 12:38 AM
Where did I say anything about Vic? You didn?t watch the game and came here acting like you did. I actually did watch it and it was awful on both sides. They had us beat, their coach isn?t good either.

I watched the entire game. Came here acting like I did????!!! By congratulating our women?s basketball team on the win??!! Holy ****!!! On a state board congratulating a state team for a win!!! Wow!! Im totally acting crazy here!!!

We are playing average at best right now and still managed to beat a much improved squad. It wasn?t a pretty win but it was a win against Ole Miss and I will take it. If we play like we did today against our next three opponents then we will get run off the court. With that said we are in a coaching transition year in the middle of a pandemic with empty coliseums so I?ll give this team that we have been so proud of for so long a little bit of leeway right now.

Pull your head out of your ass.

TimberBeast
01-11-2021, 12:47 AM
I watched the entire game. Came here acting like I did????!!! By congratulating our women?s basketball team on the win??!! Holy ****!!! On a state board congratulating a state team for a win!!! Wow!! Im totally acting crazy here!!!

We are playing average at best right now and still managed to beat a much improved squad. It wasn?t a pretty win but it was a win against Ole Miss and I will take it. If we play like we did today against our next three opponents then we will get run off the court. With that said we are in a coaching transition year in the middle of a pandemic with empty coliseums so I?ll give this team that we have been so proud of for so long a little bit of leeway right now.

Pull your head out of your ass.

Why are we playing average at best? Ole miss is awful as always but pretty well had us beat on our own court but their coach is worse and made an awful decision at the end of the game. Make excuses if you want to but I really enjoyed watching our team the last several years.

Percho
01-11-2021, 01:11 AM
Here is what I saw. For the second time this year on the offensive end of the floor we had a player fall down, the opposing team rebounded the ball and JC is helping her team mate off the floor instead of going to the other end for defense.

Twice to date.

Leeshouldveflanked
01-11-2021, 05:29 AM
Of course he didn't, Nelle did. Are AD wives usually this visible in the department? I don't remember any others recently.

TBH John needs all the help he can get.

somebodyshotmypaw
01-11-2021, 08:24 AM
The talent is there. We don't have the toughness we had under Vic. Vic constantly preached toughness and effort. That is the main thing lacking.

Ari Gold
01-11-2021, 11:43 AM
Probably because black people have been purposely denied civil rights for a large part of our country's history, so it's good that black women are now allowed to coach in the SEC. So Shakira Austin probably wanted to show her support for a black coach.

If she actually said she ONLY wanted to play for a black woman as her coach , that basically the meaning of racism..
Everyone is acting like Title XI was 5 or 6 years ago.. it was almost 50 years ago..

Ari Gold
01-11-2021, 11:47 AM
I think I will go ahead and close this thread.. if any other mods want to reopen it they can...

I will end it with ..

We won the game that’s what the end result had to be.. But things better get better..
CNMP was given the keys to an amazing job and opportunity. It’s her job to keep it rolling and make it even stronger.
Just as it would have been if JC hired any coach no matter the race or gender..