BBall vs Big Blue

[RougeDawg]

Spread has moved to Kentucky -2, with over 70% of public betting Kentucky. Was a pick.

Are people just betting name recognition? Given we may not win, but it is hard to see that lopsided of a bet with the way the team has performed of late including Molinar and Stewart. Either of those guys can carry this team. If they are both on, we will be difficult to beat.

[BeardoMSU]

Well we haven't beaten them in a decade. Lets hope we're due.

[RougeDawg]

I remember the game Stans choked it away with Roberts and the gang. Was sitting close to mid court upper deck in student section. Place was rockin that night.

[KOdawg1]

The biggest problem with our men's team over the last few years is the lack of the "big win."

We get some momentum that builds towards a big game, and we lose the big game. Even though Kentucky is 1-6, a win over them would propel us forward. A win over UK today and Mizzou on Tuesday would set us up nicely moving forward.

[parabrave]

Lets go beat them.

[msstate7]

Espn BPI has us favorite at 64.6%

[RougeDawg]

The biggest problem with our men's team over the last few years is the lack of the "big win."

We get some momentum that builds towards a big game, and we lose the big game. Even though Kentucky is 1-6, a win over them would propel us forward. A win over UK today and Mizzou on Tuesday would set us up nicely moving forward.

And we get them at home early in the season. Must win this one and gain confidence.

[parabrave]

And we get them at home early in the season. Must win this one and gain confidence.

if we do win it will be a huge confidence builder. Especially for the fans

[msstate7]

I'm uh... not confident. Kentucky can't be this bad too much longer.

[BeardoMSU]

Just announced their 3rd scorer is out of the game.

[RocketDawg]

Do we have substandard cameras? The video inside the Hump just seems fuzzy to me.

[msstate7]

That's a jump ball

[msstate7]

They're gonna hit 70% from 3 tonight. F

[RocketDawg]

They're gonna hit 70% from 3 tonight. F

Yeah, that would be typical of us to play a team when they're hot.

[Joebob]

Why is the damn camera so far away? It's like watching the game from the top row of a 25,000 seat arena.

[msstate7]

So far, playing well

[msstate7]

Why is the damn camera so far away? It's like watching the game from the top row of a 25,000 seat arena.

Amen

[msstate7]

We will never beat calipari or saban. F

[RocketDawg]

Why is the damn camera so far away? It's like watching the game from the top row of a 25,000 seat arena.

Unless they've been moved, the cameras are in fixed locations and have been in the same place for years. I think it's more how they have the lenses adjusted. And as I mentioned before, the picture quality is less than stellar. That could be poor lighting in the Hump, or HD cameras that aren't very good.

[msstate7]

Get Molinar in now

[R2Dawg]

So far, playing well

This is worst we've played all year and UK is shooting lights out.

We are playing tight, don't know why. Just standing around, no hustle, no rebound, no fire. Someone needs to get us going.

[BeardoMSU]

Ky might be 1-6, but they're undefeated in the hearts of the Ky refs.

[msstate7]

This is worst we've played all year and UK is shooting lights out.

We are playing tight, don't know why. Just standing around, no hustle, no rebound, no fire. Someone needs to get us going.

Since the 11 min mark, we've struggled. I thought we looked ok till that point. Their confidence is growing, and we getting worked

[BayouDawg]

We may as well put dresses on if thats how soft we gonna go in the paint

[msstate7]

If you believe Kentucky's shooting numbers coming in are real, we should see them regress

[msstate7]

Got a call

[R2Dawg]

Ky might be 1-6, but they're undefeated in the hearts of the Ky refs.

So true, some of the calls so far

[BayouDawg]

I cant believe they gave us that charge. Good job there

[msstate7]

He literally called that 2 seconds after the play

[msstate7]

What a BS call if for no other reason it was late AF

[BayouDawg]

Jaylon Johnson has been a pleasant surprise this year

[BeardoMSU]

**** these refs. And **** Ky.

[msstate7]

Gotta rebound

[BayouDawg]

Ref is garbage on that lane violation call

[BeardoMSU]

Waited until he missed the ft to call lane violation, lol. ****.

[msstate7]

Stop F'n trying to layup!

[BayouDawg]

Gotta rebound

Thats where adu being out hurts most. Post cant box these guys out

[R2Dawg]

7footer under goal and we can't rebound or score??

[msstate7]

7footer under goal and we can't rebound or score??

Going up trying to lay it up. Dunk it and draw foul

[msstate7]

And he laid it up haha

[R2Dawg]

Refs are complete garbage

[msstate7]

Why why did you foul him tgere

[R2Dawg]

Johnson can stroke it.

[msstate7]

Post, rebound the damn ball

[msstate7]

F these refs

[msstate7]

Big possession. Need a bucket

[msstate7]

They aren't calling sheet on Kentucky in the paint

[R2Dawg]

Game over, refs will not call this fair. And UK shooting lights out for once. UK can foul 4 times before they call it.

[mparkerfd20]

Call a damn foul!!

[RocketDawg]

Nice lead at halftime.

[msstate7]

Decent half. If ado didn't have 3 fouls, I'd say good half

[R2Dawg]

Need law of averages for both teams in second half and we get an easy W assuming refs don't throw it.

[BayouDawg]

Davis went up strong for the dunk. That had to be a foul

[msstate7]

Davis went up strong for the dunk. That had to be a foul

That one made me mad

[LC Dawg]

Nice half. KY has 8 blocks and at least half could have been called fouls.

[BeardoMSU]

Last time we were up at the half against Ky, it was a 12 lead and Dee Bost, Sid, and Moultrie were here....

[R2Dawg]

Molinar and Stewart started taking over late in half. Time for Batman and Robin.

[R2Dawg]

Ref strategy seems obvious - get MSU big men out so UK can win inside. Only way they can win. Good thing we have decent inside depth.

[msstate7]

Can we start ado in 2nd half or hold em till under 16?

[msstate7]

Ado has got to stop getting the idiotic offensive foul 30 foot from the basket every game.

[HoopsDawg]

Ado has got to stop getting the idiotic offensive foul 30 foot from the basket every game.

Yes, but he gets more BS fouls called against him than any player I can remember.

[LC Dawg]

Can we start ado in 2nd half or hold em till under 16?

I'd like to see him not start the half and see what happens.

[msstate7]

Yes, but he gets more BS fouls called against him than any player I can remember.

It certainly seems that way.

We really need him in this game, so I hope he can find a way to go without getting a foul called

[BeardoMSU]

Ado has got to stop getting the idiotic offensive foul 30 foot from the basket every game.

Agreed, but he gets ticky tack shit called on him all the time.

[msstate7]

So our best players are sheeting the bed now. Great

[BayouDawg]

Davis is rebounding well with adu out but our guards have gone full retard

[msugolf]

Zero movement on offense as always with Howland

[Lord McBuckethead]

5 straight turnovers. Nice.

[LC Dawg]

Just playing careless now.

[msstate7]

Cant believe that wasn't a foul on ado

[BayouDawg]

Nice block adu. Shove it right back in their face

[Lord McBuckethead]

6 turnovers.

[msstate7]

Molinar selfish play there was a 4-5pt swing

[vv83]

Molinar selfish play there was a 4-5pt swing

That was really really bad. Saw him wide open in the corner and wouldn?t give it up

[BayouDawg]

Molinar selfish play there was a 4-5pt swing

Agree. I get he was frustrated from the no call on the other end but gotta be smarter

[msstate7]

Huge ado play

[BayouDawg]

I am shocked that wasnt a foul on adu

[BayouDawg]

Deivon is having a rough game

[msstate7]

Alright howland, get Molinar back in

[msstate7]

Big play freshman

[BayouDawg]

Deivon is having a rough game

That was a damn good play on defense by him though

[msstate7]

Smith!!!!

[msstate7]

Good mins, d. Smith

[BeardoMSU]

Bye, Felicia.

[parabrave]

Dam we have got to shoot better. 44% isn't going to get it.

[LC Dawg]

Cal said "**** this. I'm going to have a drink."

[msstate7]

What a f'n pathetic run! Wake up you MFers

[mparkerfd20]

GD it we look like shit

[Percho]

To much dribble and running clock. Pass and move.

[msstate7]

Molinar, if you scared to shoot, bring in smith

[R2Dawg]

We are playing like garbage and UK continues to shoot lights out. Just our luck. DJ can't hit anything.

[R2Dawg]

These refs unreal

[R2Dawg]

Hot garbage

[msugolf]

Hahahahaha

[mparkerfd20]

Giving it away. What the literal **** are we even doing on offense?????

[msstate7]

We deserve to lose

[LC Dawg]

I guess our guys think nothing counts after the opposing coach gets tossed.

[R2Dawg]

DJ having terrible game

[Lord McBuckethead]

Take the ball the the 17n basket. And don't pass it to ado.

[Lord McBuckethead]

It is not that hard. They already have 8 fouls. Take it to them.

[msstate7]

We need to get Johnson a look

[R2Dawg]

We must win this game, done gave away too many already this year.

[R2Dawg]

Way to many TO tonight.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Allen coming in fresh, our guys all gassed. Not looking good.

[R2Dawg]

Molinar ain't scared.

[msstate7]

God, I know you hate us at miss state, but please let us win this game

[msstate7]

We can't rebound

[R2Dawg]

UK jinx

[RocketDawg]

The 5 minutes without scoring didn't help.

We're either going to lose or go to overtime.

[HoopsDawg]

We really needed to go 2 for 1 there.

[LC Dawg]

Just block out for ****s sake!

[BayouDawg]

We gave this game away. Tolu smith has been a non factor

[msstate7]

Missed shot at 3 seconds, and tip in to win. Why do I like miss state?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well, I have seen how this one ends too many times.

[HoopsDawg]

Where is Tolu on the boards?

[RocketDawg]

OT. That's the best we could expect at the end.

[mparkerfd20]

This is why I hate basketball

[msstate7]

We gave this game away. Tolu smith has been a non factor

They too athletic for him. We will win or lose this with our guards. Stewart, do you mind showing up?

[Lord McBuckethead]

OT. I was sure they were going to make one of three open shots.

[LC Dawg]

Damn. Gave them 3 chances on the last possession. I guess we're lucky that Kentucky isn't very good either.

[BayouDawg]

Someone on our team needs to grow some sac. This game should have been put away after cal bitch ass was tossed

[Lord McBuckethead]

Where is Tolu on the boards?

His Vag is showing.

[CaptainObvious]

Allen coming in fresh, our guys all gassed. Not looking good.

So did I hear that right. Allen had 2 points in 22 minutes this year and becomes a RAT for a 1-6 UK team against our young pups and the space Easter Ado?

[R2Dawg]

We need Jalen Johnson

[R2Dawg]

Cam Matthews makes a few plays

[msstate7]

Cam, we need this

[msstate7]

We need these, Stewart

[R2Dawg]

Bama about to beat UT

[Lord McBuckethead]

Why is mathews on the floor. He is 1-11 from the FT line.

[BayouDawg]

1 for 11 on free throws is unacceptable at this level. You almost have to try to be that bad

[msstate7]

3 missed FTs so far in OT

[R2Dawg]

UK is so lucky

[R2Dawg]

Guy hasn't hit a shot all year and he hits 6 threes on us

[msstate7]

It's over. Never let cam set a foot on the court without improving FTS

[mparkerfd20]

Ballgame

[R2Dawg]

Molinar has ice water

[msstate7]

If Stewart showed up, we win easy. Huge shot by Molinar

[R2Dawg]

Must rebound or it is over

[R2Dawg]

So your telling me there is a chance

[msstate7]

Molinar or Johnson only

[R2Dawg]

Molinar off a screen, with Johnson and DJ ready to take dish if they double Molinar

[msstate7]

Maybe you do try to get Stewart a shot

[msstate7]

What they looking at?

[msstate7]

Don't leave any time

[msstate7]

That may have been the worst set I've ever saw

[R2Dawg]

What a pathetic play

[R2Dawg]

That was embarrassing from a coach coming from TO, Wow

[msugolf]

Man we?re sooo poorly coached on offense

[LC Dawg]

KY got three shots at end of regulation and we get a cluster**** at the end of OT.

[Joebob]

Our offense has looked lost the last 14 minutes

[BayouDawg]

Why is do all of our athletic programs lack testicular fortitude?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Howland should be fired for how that was drawn up. Seriously. What the actual ****.

[R2Dawg]

I can't take much more horrible basketball

[msstate7]

That's a losing play, t. Smith

[R2Dawg]

Ballgame

[R2Dawg]

Our body language this whole game says it is UK and we can't beat them.

[msstate7]

Howland should be fired for how that was drawn up. Seriously. What the actual ****.

Shut up with the fire howland stupid sheet

[BayouDawg]

We are anti clutch

[Lord McBuckethead]

DJ cannot beat his man.

[parabrave]

That was embarrassing from a coach coming from TO, Wow

Saw someone do the same thing against Arizona about 18 years ago.

[R2Dawg]

If we hit one more FT this game was over long time ago

[Cooterpoot]

Howland ball at its finest tonight. Few offensive sets, poor FT shooting, lots of individual play.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Shut up with the fire howland stupid sheet

Yeah well, who drew up that gem of a play.

[msstate7]

T. Smith is a boy among men

[R2Dawg]

Only at MSU

[BayouDawg]

Kentucky is our daddy. Tolu got his shit pushed in tonight

[R2Dawg]

Headline tomorrow. MSU revives UK basketball

[Cooterpoot]

T. Smith is a boy among men

Our bigs suck on the offensive end.

[LC Dawg]

This is typical MSU.

[msstate7]

Yeah well, who drew up that gem of a play.

We're a decent team in s transition year. Firing howland would be the dumbest ducking thing we've ever done. To suggest it shows you have the mental facilities of a toddler

[Lord McBuckethead]

Who is setting the defense. Who is calling the offensive plays. This soon to be loss is on Howland.

[Thick]

It?s over.....IDGAF, Howland is a horrible floor coach! We?ve never scored after a TO that he called to ?draw up a play?.

[Saltydog]

Worst UK team in almost 100 years and we still can't beat them. We've got some decent pieces to the puzzle but the biggest piece we're missing is coaching.

[R2Dawg]

Easiest UK win ever in MSU history and we stink it up

[Lord McBuckethead]

Up literally the entire game, and we completely let them dictate the game since the 9:05 point of the 2nd half.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Can we not just deny any ball movement to allen? Like they are doing to 3 of our players?

[msstate7]

At some point you have to hold the players accountable. We missed FTs in OT 1 that if we made it's over

[R2Dawg]

Now we gotta hear this UK crap. We had a chance to make a statement and we sucked

[Lord McBuckethead]

I hate rooting for MSU sometimes.

[RocketDawg]

Not a lot of effort at the end. Not concieous of the clock.

[Cooterpoot]

A team that can't shoot FTs can't win games.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Now we gotta hear this UK crap. We had a chance to make a statement and we sucked

Every opportunity since 2010.

[msu15]

I am so glad I decided to stay at home and not go to that choke job. You guys have fun watching us limp to .500 in conference play. We are below average basketball program and will never take the next step with Ben Howland as our coach.

[HoopsDawg]

That may have been the worst set I've ever saw

I can't tell you how bad it is to run a ball screen with Ado in that spot.

[msu15]

Howland sucks

[R2Dawg]

0-15 coach Cal and we will keep hearing that

[Joebob]

At some point you have to hold the players accountable. We missed FTs in OT 1 that if we made it's over

Having a team that shoots clutch free throws is part of coaching too. Good coaches get it done.

[msstate7]

If you wanna blame howland for something, it should be playing cam with us in bonus. He can't make a FT to save his life. He should never play in that situation. I'm done with cam Mathews

[Commercecomet24]

Sad ending in regulation and first ot after leading most of the game. We just always seem to be a step late when it matters most

[R2Dawg]

We led the whole game too, inexcusable

[msstate7]

Howland sucks

You were missing in action after a good win the other night. You only show up after we lose. Eat a duck

[Maroonthirteen]

Now we gotta hear this UK crap.


Nah. As was said, worst Kentucky team in many years. Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri will work their ass. Hopefully no sec tournament win or ncaa for this Kentucky team.

[Commercecomet24]

A team that can't shoot FTs can't win games.

Yep same story different year. Bad possessions at the end of close games too. Our trademark

[Lord McBuckethead]

I am not sure what we can learn from this game.
1. We suck offensively. We do not run any strategy I can gleem. We take 20 seconds to start moving the ball. We allow the other team to deny us too many different ways.
2. When we play 4 against 5 on the offensive side, and we still do not have offensive rebounding, I am not sure how we are looking to win games consistently.

[Joebob]

If you wanna blame howland for something, it should be playing cam with us in bonus. He can't make a FT to save his life. He should never play in that situation. I'm done with cam Mathews

Yeah, that's part if it. If I'm the coach, I'm telling Cam he's not playing the last five minutes of any game until he can hit 67% of his free throws.

[Commercecomet24]

I am not sure what we can learn from this game.
1. We suck offensively. We do not run any strategy I can gleem. We take 20 seconds to start moving the ball. We allow the other team to deny us too many different ways.
2. When we play 4 against 5 on the offensive side, and we still do not have offensive rebounding, I am not sure how we are looking to win games consistently.

Are you saying Moorhead is running our offense 😂 ****

[Lord McBuckethead]

If you wanna blame howland for something, it should be playing cam with us in bonus. He can't make a FT to save his life. He should never play in that situation. I'm done with cam Mathews

I blame Howland for that. I also blame howland for not figuring out a single set play coming off a TO at the end of the 1st overtime. If nothing else, drive the basket.

[HoopsDawg]

Molinar doesn't need a ball screen to get by his man. Ado is not an offensive threat so that already makes him a bad pick and roll player. So all a ball screen does is bring an extra defender to hedge on Molinar. It's just really bad. Then the screen was set too late in the clock. Just an awful possession to end OT.

[msu15]

You were missing in action after a good win the other night. You only show up after we lose. Eat a duck

I was in the thread and watched the entire game bud, go back and look. Your daddy is a shit basketball coach and you're a low iQ moron.

[msstate7]

I am not sure what we can learn from this game.
1. We suck offensively. We do not run any strategy I can gleem. We take 20 seconds to start moving the ball. We allow the other team to deny us too many different ways.
2. When we play 4 against 5 on the offensive side, and we still do not have offensive rebounding, I am not sure how we are looking to win games consistently.

Kentucky may not be normal Kentucky, but they are athletic AF down low. They owned us in the paint, and with Stewart having an off night, can't overcome it.

[R2Dawg]

We are young, we have to learn the killer instinct that we don't have yet. 2 Double OT game losses

[Lord McBuckethead]

Hell, run an isolation play and maybe you get a drive and kick out. Call something.

[defiantdog]

Our guys just need to shoot free throws until their knees give out

[msstate7]

I was in the thread and watched the entire game bud, go back and look. Your daddy is a shit basketball coach and you're a low iQ moron.

We lost a tough game, and your first post in this thread was to say "farh howland". Youre a DA,

[Cooterpoot]

Can we hire Ben an OC?

[HoopsDawg]

Can we hire Ben an OC?

Hire Stan Jones. **

[msstate7]

Can we hire Ben an OC?

Now I'm not opposed to helping him upgrade assistants. We would be the dumbest program ever to fire howland tho

[Lord McBuckethead]

Hate it for the guys, but at the end of the day no one other than molinar worked hard and attacked.

[KOdawg1]

We are young, we have to learn the killer instinct that we don't have yet. 2 Double OT game losses

Besides Q, we haven't had anyone with a killer instinct in 5 years.

[msstate7]

Besides Q, we haven't had anyone with a killer instinct in 5 years.

We Q played in 3 of the last 5 years.

[msstate7]

Man, I'm pissed. That should've been a win!

[LC Dawg]

Howland is the head coach. It can't be all on the players and not on him. We looked poorly coached. It wasn't just missed free throws. I'm not saying fire Howland but we shouldn't have lost that game and it's not all on the players.

[msstate7]

Howland is the head coach. It can't be all on the players and not on him. We looked poorly coached. It wasn't just missed free throws. I'm not saying fire Howland but we shouldn't have lost that game and it's not all on the players.

I agree with that. Howland is NOT perfect... not even close. We ARE damn lucky to have him though. We give this program zero support, and they actually deliver results. Are they winning big? Hell no, but who would win big here. We have 1 outstanding tourney run in our history, and all-the-sudden, we think we Duke lite

[LC Dawg]

I agree with that. Howland is NOT perfect... not even close. We ARE damn lucky to have him though. We give this program zero support, and they actually deliver results. Are they winning big? Hell no, but who would win big here. We have 1 outstanding tourney run in our history, and all-the-sudden, we think we Duke lite

I agree. The fact is that if Howland doesn't win here we may as well abolish our program because of what you mentioned. I'm not sure if we can ever get the support back and I hate it because I think we have a much better chance of winning big in basketball than we do football.

[HoopsDawg]

I agree with that. Howland is NOT perfect... not even close. We ARE damn lucky to have him though. We give this program zero support, and they actually deliver results. Are they winning big? Hell no, but who would win big here. We have 1 outstanding tourney run in our history, and all-the-sudden, we think we Duke lite

That's correct. Howland is a flawed offensive coach, but we are lucky to have him. He did a great job finding and signing Molinar.

[maroonmania]

Howland is the head coach. It can't be all on the players and not on him. We looked poorly coached. It wasn't just missed free throws. I'm not saying fire Howland but we shouldn't have lost that game and it's not all on the players.

I only really got to watch the last 7 minutes of the second half and the OTs. My only big gripe with Howland was the last possession of the first OT. That was after a TO with a chance to win and we had one of the worst possessions I've ever seen. Other than that I put it mostly on the players though its become pretty obvious over the years that Howland isn't much of an in game coach. What I saw was getting outworked on the boards where KY was getting 3 shots on multiple possessions down the stretch and the team continuing to be bad at the free throw line. Its really hard to win very close games with a team that doesn't make a good percentage of their free throws.

[BayouDawg]

I still think this team has a bright future. They are way ahead of where I thought they would be at the beginning of the year. It just sucks to continually find ways to lose in every sport.

[Cooterpoot]

Middle of the pack team. We're still short on talent. Nothing we can do about coaching.

[msstate7]

If you wanna blame howland for something, it should be playing cam with us in bonus. He can't make a FT to save his life. He should never play in that situation. I'm done with cam Mathews

Someone called me out on this post, and they were right to do so. This was garbage. The kid made a big play before the missed FT. He's a freshman that will get better. Apologizes

[Turfdawg67]

Someone called me out on this post, and they were right to do so. This was garbage. The kid made a big play before the missed FT. He's a freshman that will get better. Apologizes

Hey, if you're going to post 59,000 times on a message board, you're gonna say something wrong every now and then.

[msstate7]

Hey, if you're going to post 59,000 times on a message board, you're gonna say something wrong every now and then.

My current ratio is 2 bad/wrong posts every 10k posts haha

[parabrave]

My current ratio is 2 bad/wrong posts every 10k posts haha

Yeah but you said Fredi Gonzales was going tp be the best manager the braves ever had and Dan Uggla and BJ would set all the braves hitting records. **

[msstate7]

Yeah but you said Fredi Gonzales was going tp be the best manager the braves ever had and Dan Uggla and BJ would set all the braves hitting records. **

If I said that, I apparently was dealing with substance abuse