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Lord McBuckethead
01-02-2021, 01:22 PM
Why is the game so loud?

Hambone
01-02-2021, 01:25 PM
They are using fake crowd noise

Lord McBuckethead
01-02-2021, 01:30 PM
I had to switch to the kentucky game. It sounds like they are piping noise directly into the microphone.

parabrave
01-02-2021, 01:32 PM
Dam Ole Miss is missing most of its offensive production and still winning. They got a big ole boy at TE.

Dawgology
01-02-2021, 01:32 PM
Indiana is vastly overrated

msstate7
01-02-2021, 01:33 PM
Dam Ole Miss is missing most of its offensive production and still winning. They got a big ole boy at TE.

I see Plumlee playing. Wonder if he stays. Seems he'd be hell on wr screens

msstate7
01-02-2021, 01:34 PM
Indiana is vastly overrated

Maybe so, but their only loss was 7 points to Ohio st, who forever more buried Clemson last night

ETA.. they aren't as good penix

HoopsDawg
01-02-2021, 01:36 PM
Indiana is trash. Let's go. 3 points vs Ole Miss.

HoopsDawg
01-02-2021, 01:37 PM
Maybe so, but their only loss was 3 points to Ohio st, who forever more buried Clemson last night

ETA.. they aren't as good penix

Lost by 7 to Ohio State. They were down 42-21 in the 4th but got 2 late TD's to make it respectable.

msstate7
01-02-2021, 01:38 PM
Indiana is trash. Let's go. 3 points vs Ole Miss.

Penix was a big blow for them.

Dawgology
01-02-2021, 01:38 PM
They are terrible but the media likes to pretend that the BIG10 is a power conference outside of Ohio State every few years. It?s a #11 participation trophy ranking.

chef dixon
01-02-2021, 01:41 PM
Its so annoying that Ole Miss has been able to maintain this style of offense for a decade

Irondawg
01-02-2021, 01:42 PM
Give OM some credit they are moving the ball without all their playmakers except Corral

msstate7
01-02-2021, 01:43 PM
Its so annoying that Ole Miss has been able to maintain this style of offense for a decade

Their style is so much more fun to watch than ours.

HoopsDawg
01-02-2021, 01:45 PM
Give OM some credit they are moving the ball without all their playmakers except Corral

I do. I've said all year, their offense is the top scheme in college football. But Indiana scoring 3 points is embarrassing.

Cooterpoot
01-02-2021, 01:45 PM
IN's QB makes them go. Without him, they're struggling. Defense is worn out.

Leeshouldveflanked
01-02-2021, 01:46 PM
If you are on defense, you can?t let the Ole Miss eye candy in the backfield take you away from your responsibility.

BeardoMSU
01-02-2021, 02:01 PM
Indiana blows.

defiantdog
01-02-2021, 02:06 PM
Give OM some credit they are moving the ball without all their playmakers except Corral

Still have Drummond and Mingo. They aren't hurting too bad.

defiantdog
01-02-2021, 02:07 PM
Lost by 7 to Ohio State. They were down 42-21 in the 4th but got 2 late TD's to make it respectable.
Pretty sure Ohio State wasnt playing their hardest either.

Irondawg
01-02-2021, 02:09 PM
Losing their qb is a big blow - even if they had Moore and Ealy the OM offense would look different without Corral

msstate7
01-02-2021, 02:13 PM
Lost by 7 to Ohio State. They were down 42-21 in the 4th but got 2 late TD's to make it respectable.

Nope. It was 42-28 at end of 3rd. With 10:26 left in 4th, it was 42-35. They got 2 more possessions (really 1 bc last one only :33 left) with chance to tie it. Here's link to drive charts...

https://www.espn.com/college-football/playbyplay?gameId=401247326

chef dixon
01-02-2021, 02:16 PM
Ole Miss is a bad match up for teams like Indiana, especially missing their starting QB. You have to be able to score points to beat them, it doesn't matter how good your defense it.

maroonmania
01-02-2021, 02:45 PM
Give OM some credit they are moving the ball without all their playmakers except Corral

Yep, but we all know OM signs about 10 WRs per year. They still have guys that are decent players even behind Moore and Yeboah. The main story here is that Indiana's offense only scoring 6 points so far.

BeardoMSU
01-02-2021, 02:47 PM
Yep, but we all know OM signs about 10 WRs per year. They still have guys that are decent players even behind Moore and Yeboah. The main story here is that Indiana's offense only scoring 6 points so far.

It also shows just how overrated the B10 is. Indiana is supposedly their 2nd best team this year, and a 4-5 OM team is making them look pedestrian on both sides of the ball.

Red Sox Dawg
01-02-2021, 02:52 PM
Indiana's D is not good. Where is Ealy?

BayouDawg
01-02-2021, 02:59 PM
Tulsa looked better than Indiana

chef dixon
01-02-2021, 02:59 PM
Is Altmeyer a statue in the pocket? I hope so cause that would ground this offense for a couple years

Ari Gold
01-02-2021, 03:02 PM
Is Altmeyer a statue in the pocket? I hope so cause that would ground this offense for a couple years

You won’t eve have to worry about that...

Percho
01-02-2021, 03:29 PM
Why do Ind receivers give ground all the time? Have done it the whole game

BayouDawg
01-02-2021, 03:33 PM
Why do Ind receivers give ground all the time? Have done it the whole game

I was just thinking the same thing. Number 1 has probably lost a total of 20 yards today by running backwards

BayouDawg
01-02-2021, 03:34 PM
Looks like ole miss strength and conditioning program is lacking

Percho
01-02-2021, 03:38 PM
Why nare they blowing the whistle?

BayouDawg
01-02-2021, 03:40 PM
These Acc refs suck almost as bad as the sec ones

BayouDawg
01-02-2021, 03:42 PM
Ole miss d is gassed. If Indy gets a stop here they win

BeardoMSU
01-02-2021, 03:42 PM
Please make me eat crow, Indiana.

Hambone
01-02-2021, 03:48 PM
It’s still impressive that Ole Miss had as many players opt out as they did and are still a problem offensively

Commercecomet24
01-02-2021, 03:48 PM
It also shows just how overrated the B10 is. Indiana is supposedly their 2nd best team this year, and a 4-5 OM team is making them look pedestrian on both sides of the ball.

Agreed. Indiana is painfully slow on both sides of the ball. Ohio state recruits sec type athletes and it's why they're dominating the big 10

BayouDawg
01-02-2021, 03:49 PM
Ole miss kicker strikes again

Percho
01-02-2021, 03:49 PM
Should that have been a TD?

Percho
01-02-2021, 03:50 PM
Did he have control of the ball in the end zone?

LC Dawg
01-02-2021, 03:58 PM
Is Indiana's offensive coordinator trying to lose this?

msstate7
01-02-2021, 04:01 PM
It’s still impressive that Ole Miss had as many players opt out as they did and are still a problem offensively

Lane is a great offensive mind, and having a great qb helps

BayouDawg
01-02-2021, 04:01 PM
Indiana sucks

Percho
01-02-2021, 04:01 PM
That outside screen hasn't gotten them anything all day

Saltydog
01-02-2021, 04:02 PM
Hoosiers blew it......Had their chance but that series was pathetic......Ole Miss outplayed them anyway.....

maroonmania
01-02-2021, 04:07 PM
Very difficult for Indiana to win that game with that much disparity in QB play.

Jack Lambert
01-02-2021, 04:07 PM
Hoosiers blew it......Had their chance but that series was pathetic......Ole Miss outplayed them anyway.....

That play calling was worse than Holloway up the middle on 4 and 12.

Commercecomet24
01-02-2021, 04:10 PM
Indiana was lucky they didn't get blown out. Tuttle sucks and their defense just way to slow

Dogbone
01-02-2021, 04:23 PM
Indiana was lucky they didn't get blown out. Tuttle sucks and their defense just way to slow

I'm probably missing something but how did they play Ohio state so c!ose?

msstate7
01-02-2021, 04:27 PM
I'm probably missing something but how did they play Ohio state so c!ose?

Penix (qb) got hurt after Ohio st game. They were better with him

Saltydog
01-02-2021, 04:28 PM
Kinda like Ole Miss playing Bama close......Sometime it just happens......

Dogbone
01-02-2021, 04:30 PM
Penix (qb) got hurt after Ohio st game. They were better with him

Thanks

HoopsDawg
01-02-2021, 04:30 PM
That outside screen hasn't gotten them anything all day

The only way to not attack Ole Miss is East and West. Terrible game plan by them. Awful.

Commercecomet24
01-02-2021, 04:40 PM
I'm probably missing something but how did they play Ohio state so c!ose?

Indiana qb got hurt against Maryland and didn't play the last couple of games and today

BeardoMSU
01-02-2021, 04:41 PM
Lots of carnal corncob abuse eminent in Indiana tonight. Y'all deserve each other, posers.

Dogbone
01-02-2021, 04:42 PM
Indiana qb got hurt against Maryland and didn't play the last couple of games and today

Thanks

SailingDawg
01-02-2021, 04:59 PM
SEC is 4-1 now, correct?

BeardoMSU
01-02-2021, 05:01 PM
SEC is 4-1 now, correct?

Auburn the lone loss, I believe.

Commercecomet24
01-02-2021, 05:04 PM
SEC with 2 losses, Florida and auburn

maroonmania
01-02-2021, 05:04 PM
Dan Merlins lost as well.

RougeDawg
01-02-2021, 05:12 PM
I’m not sure what’s so fancy about the OM offense. To me it reminds me of the back yard “get open or go deep and I’ll throw it to you” offense. They just have had the WR talent to pull it off.

Irondawg
01-02-2021, 05:17 PM
They create some 1:1 mismatches based on formations and route trees. Seems each player has a designed spot to go and then a safety valve so it’s primarily a one read offense.

I could be wrong but that’s how it looks to me

the_real_MSU_is_us
01-02-2021, 05:25 PM
I’m not sure what’s so fancy about the OM offense. To me it reminds me of the back yard “get open or go deep and I’ll throw it to you” offense. They just have had the WR talent to pull it off.

Good OL makes any scheme seem better than it really is. For example everyone was freaking out about Gus's O back in '13 when they had a great OL. Every other year? meh to bad.

They also have a QB that makes all the throws, WRs that are good and on the same page with the QB. Past that, I think the magic of their O is that they all mentally grasp it. They can play fast, change plays, and execute well because nobody is lost. Kiffin gets credit for communicating his scheme so well, BUT is it really his scheme itself that's so good? Or the combo of these non-scheme factors?

msstate7
01-02-2021, 05:33 PM
Good OL makes any scheme seem better than it really is. For example everyone was freaking out about Gus's O back in '13 when they had a great OL. Every other year? meh to bad.

They also have a QB that makes all the throws, WRs that are good and on the same page with the QB. Past that, I think the magic of their O is that they all mentally grasp it. They can play fast, change plays, and execute well because nobody is lost. Kiffin gets credit for communicating his scheme so well, BUT is it really his scheme itself that's so good? Or the combo of these non-scheme factors?

Lane kiffin total offense and scoring offense ranks nationally the last 4 years...
2020: 3rd, 12th
2019: 23rd, 14th
2018: 14th, 45th
2017: 9th, 8th

I'd say he's been pretty dang good

BeardoMSU
01-02-2021, 05:33 PM
Dan Merlins lost as well.

Yep, don't know how I forgot that.

RougeDawg
01-02-2021, 05:45 PM
Good OL makes any scheme seem better than it really is. For example everyone was freaking out about Gus's O back in '13 when they had a great OL. Every other year? meh to bad.

They also have a QB that makes all the throws, WRs that are good and on the same page with the QB. Past that, I think the magic of their O is that they all mentally grasp it. They can play fast, change plays, and execute well because nobody is lost. Kiffin gets credit for communicating his scheme so well, BUT is it really his scheme itself that's so good? Or the combo of these non-scheme factors?

I am just saying it looks like an offense that has more talented receivers that go catch any and everything. They seem to win the ball the majority of the time on 50/50 balls and do not have the easy drops that we do. If we had had the WR talent they have had the last decade, we probably have a trip or two to Atlanta and maybe playoffs. That is all we were really lacking.

SailingDawg
01-02-2021, 08:25 PM
SEC with 2 losses, Florida and auburn

Yep, forgot about them.

msstate7
01-03-2021, 10:03 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/3xhhW8Gh/11-A120-BD-5-F56-4-EA0-BE9-B-C8216658-E3-AE.jpg (https://postimg.cc/VdKpVc4Z)

PendingTransaction
01-03-2021, 12:39 PM
Good OL makes any scheme seem better than it really is. For example everyone was freaking out about Gus's O back in '13 when they had a great OL. Every other year? meh to bad.

They also have a QB that makes all the throws, WRs that are good and on the same page with the QB. Past that, I think the magic of their O is that they all mentally grasp it. They can play fast, change plays, and execute well because nobody is lost. Kiffin gets credit for communicating his scheme so well, BUT is it really his scheme itself that's so good? Or the combo of these non-scheme factors?

You make a great point. What makes any scheme affective is the ability of the players to mentally grasp it. A great college coach understands that 18-22 yo players can't run complicated schemes. For various reasons, they simply can't retain and execute if it requires a lot of thinking. Keep it simple and allow the players to be athletes. Thinking and uncertainty will always make players a step slower and less athletic.

CaptainObvious
01-03-2021, 01:54 PM
I guess that is why we have had Croom?s Gulf Coast Offense, Mullen?s Read Option, Moorhead?s East Coast Offense, and now Leach?s Key West Offense. We don?t like consistency in our schemes from coach to coach.

Todd4State
01-03-2021, 02:42 PM
I guess that is why we have had Croom?s Gulf Coast Offense, Mullen?s Read Option, Moorhead?s East Coast Offense, and now Leach?s Key West Offense. We don?t like consistency in our schemes from coach to coach.

Yeah because at MSU we have to go 180 degrees away from the previous coach every time. We've been paying for Dan's bad recruiting on the offensive side of the ball too- which is why we were so young.

parabrave
01-03-2021, 03:15 PM
I’m not sure what’s so fancy about the OM offense. To me it reminds me of the back yard “get open or go deep and I’ll throw it to you” offense. They just have had the WR talent to pull it off.

Thats our offense

parabrave
01-03-2021, 03:17 PM
Yeah because at MSU we have to go 180 degrees away from the previous coach every time. We've been paying for Dan's bad recruiting on the offensive side of the ball too- which is why we were so young.

HMMM no Dan had us set up to run his offense. Joe then brought his guy in for the RPO and now Leach has to find players to run his O.