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MsStateBaseball
12-28-2020, 01:27 PM
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Hambone
12-29-2020, 03:16 PM
https://twitter.com/hailstatefb/status/1344012626569945092?s=21

ZedFedder
12-29-2020, 03:33 PM
Was hoping for flying m.

StarkVegasSteve
12-29-2020, 03:53 PM
Was hoping for the black uni's again.

FISHDAWG
12-29-2020, 03:59 PM
I think we need to show our identity in the bowl games and I like the Maroon for that .... The black uni's and flying M are kinda cool but it's not our identity

TheLostDawg
12-29-2020, 05:14 PM
I think we need to show our identity in the bowl games and I like the Maroon for that .... The black uni's and flying M are kinda cool but it's not our identity

It should be for football like M over S "is for baseball"

drummerdawg
12-29-2020, 05:32 PM
It should be for football like M over S "is for baseball"

MSJ should be our football identity

The Federalist Engineer
12-29-2020, 05:32 PM
We're probably looking at a 52 game SEC schedule that should be announced soon. 56 games total in all likelihood. Not sure who the four OOC games will be against.

Look for Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and then Sunday format. Possibly Saturday DH in some instances as well.

I hope we play more than 4 OCC games. That would hurt small programs and damage the game. Lemonis has supported the traditional schedule - I see a tweet from Manieri saying differently, but I think it would be bad to play so few OCC games

AlSwearengen
12-29-2020, 05:58 PM
I hope we play more than 4 OCC games. That would hurt small programs and damage the game. Lemonis has supported the traditional schedule - I see a tweet from Manieri saying differently, but I think it would be bad to play so few OCC games

Yeah, they have managed to screw up college football by creating a huge gap b/t the blue bloods and non blue bloods. It seems like college baseball has had a lot of wind at it’s back the last few years but a conference only schedule could endanger some of the smaller programs which could have long term consequences. They need to be propping up these smaller schools, especially when it comes to baseball.

Todd4State
12-29-2020, 06:45 PM
I hope we play more than 4 OCC games. That would hurt small programs and damage the game. Lemonis has supported the traditional schedule - I see a tweet from Manieri saying differently, but I think it would be bad to play so few OCC games

I agree. I just wind if the OOC games will be the Governor's Cup and USM, Memphis, and whoever in Biloxi.

msu15
12-29-2020, 07:19 PM
That gray stripe is so hideous

Santiago
12-29-2020, 08:39 PM
It should be for football like M over S "is for baseball"

Agree, the Flying M would be great identity in football.
Anything but the current Mstate.

Saltydog
12-29-2020, 09:04 PM
A 52 game SEC schedule is going to be very taxing on SEC pitching staffs but our staff is deep and should be one of the better ones in the league so we should be o.k.

maroonmania
12-29-2020, 09:29 PM
We're probably looking at a 52 game SEC schedule that should be announced soon. 56 games total in all likelihood. Not sure who the four OOC games will be against.

Look for Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and then Sunday format. Possibly Saturday DH in some instances as well.

Wow, so they are going to ask SEC baseball teams, when they go on the road, to stay for 4 days at the location to get the series in? That seems a bit much to me but whatever.

Todd4State
12-29-2020, 09:40 PM
Wow, so they are going to ask SEC baseball teams, when they go on the road, to stay for 4 days at the location to get the series in? That seems a bit much to me but whatever.

I suppose so. It's actually not that much different than say we go to Baton Rouge for a weekend series and then stay in Biloxi Tuesday night before to play South Alabama or going to Oxford for the weekend series and playing Memphis on a Tuesday before that series. That probably happens at least 2-3 times a year for the baseball team- conservatively. I imagine there will be a lot of online classes too.

Todd4State
12-29-2020, 09:43 PM
MSJ should be our football identity

What he said!

I think it's complete BS that we can't have MSJ or the interlocking MSU on our helmets in some modern Adidas form once or twice a year.

Randolph Dupree
12-29-2020, 10:08 PM
Was Eagan the guy that passed out in the dugout a couple of years ago?

Saltydog
12-29-2020, 10:11 PM
Yes, it was during the regional or SR........

BrunswickDawg
12-30-2020, 08:44 AM
I hope we play more than 4 OCC games. That would hurt small programs and damage the game. Lemonis has supported the traditional schedule - I see a tweet from Manieri saying differently, but I think it would be bad to play so few OCC games

That's not on the SEC - most of the smaller conferences have already decided to go conference games only and/or have limited their own OOC schedules.

Leeshouldveflanked
12-30-2020, 09:28 AM
I hope we play more than 4 OCC games. That would hurt small programs and damage the game. Lemonis has supported the traditional schedule - I see a tweet from Manieri saying differently, but I think it would be bad to play so few OCC games

It?s basically a club sport anyway.... it would be a blessing to 90% of the NCAA schools to drop it.

speedy1972
12-30-2020, 09:41 AM
That gray stripe is so hideous

I agree with you! Gray and white are too much the same color. Either have two white stripes with maroon in the middle or do what BYU does and use three stripes that have a variance in the middle stripe width. Looks cool to me....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fcollege%2Fbyu%2Fnew s%2Fbyu-football-reveals-uniforms-against-texas-state&psig=AOvVaw1txmnSzPLm3k-B835ZpUet&ust=1609425365938000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCPiU5vL29e0CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

was21
12-30-2020, 10:59 AM
Looks great to me

Jack Lambert
12-30-2020, 11:17 AM
White or Maroon trousers?

Maroonthirteen
12-30-2020, 12:32 PM
Agree, the Flying M would be great identity in football.
Anything but the current Mstate.

A block generic M with an arrow is some how better than a bold M with a State banner?????

I don't get the hate that comes from a lot of State fans regarding the MState logo.

RocketDawg
12-30-2020, 09:26 PM
I think we need to show our identity in the bowl games and I like the Maroon for that .... The black uni's and flying M are kinda cool but it's not our identity

The Flying M was our identity for a long time. Would've been good to have it for this game since it's sponsored by Lockheed-Martin.

RocketDawg
12-30-2020, 09:29 PM
A block generic M with an arrow is some how better than a bold M with a State banner?????

I don't get the hate that comes from a lot of State fans regarding the MState logo.


I don't hate the MState logo. I wish we'd stick with maroon & white (the gray stripe is OK, as are the silver pants) - but I'll admit the black uniforms we had for our last game looked pretty good (much better than any of our alternate uniforms have looked since we started using them, IMO).

Dogbone
12-30-2020, 09:29 PM
White or Maroon trousers?

I guess we'll find out tomorrow.

schddog72
12-30-2020, 09:54 PM
White or Maroon trousers?

ANYTHING but those horrible sno-cone helmets!!!

Dogbone
12-30-2020, 09:56 PM
ANYTHING but those horrible sno-cone helmets!!!

I agree!!!!

Dawgsfanalongtime77
12-31-2020, 01:36 AM
The black unis admittedly looked awesome. You can bring those out every blue moon but not something with regularity

The Federalist Engineer
12-31-2020, 02:38 AM
That's not on the SEC - most of the smaller conferences have already decided to go conference games only and/or have limited their own OOC schedules.

I'm thinking Sun Belt and CUSA and SWAC. I'm sure the Northern small schools may have difficulties in Southern Swings for a month. Like Sacred Heart from Connecticut or Holy Cross from Massachusetts.

So, I'm talking Memphis, UAB, Alcorn, South Alabama, Jackson State, Southern Miss, Tulane, LA Monroe, etc.

Plus, these games are valuable for the pitching staff. You can afford to ease-in a Freshman that might get tagged a bit. Heck we lost to Texas Southern with KC Hunt getting shelled, but I bet it was valuable to KC Hunt.

Pie in the sky thinking - with huge rosters - you can almost create two bubbles - with bubble switch protocol. The Midweek team and the SEC Weekend Team. To the connoisseurs, those Midweek games would be bad-ass and valuable to the younger kids. They get to play and be the stars. English soccer teams are doing this with their U-23 teams, separate bubbles

msbulldog
12-31-2020, 05:27 AM
It?s basically a club sport anyway.... it would be a blessing to 90% of the NCAA schools to drop it.

Yep a club sport we play in a 41 million dollar facility. Flank off.

msbulldog
12-31-2020, 05:31 AM
I'm thinking Sun Belt and CUSA and SWAC. I'm sure the Northern small schools may have difficulties in Southern Swings for a month. Like Sacred Heart from Connecticut or Holy Cross from Massachusetts.

So, I'm talking Memphis, UAB, Alcorn, South Alabama, Jackson State, Southern Miss, Tulane, LA Monroe, etc.

Plus, these games are valuable for the pitching staff. You can afford to ease-in a Freshman that might get tagged a bit. Heck we lost to Texas Southern with KC Hunt getting shelled, but I bet it was valuable to KC Hunt.

Pie in the sky thinking - with huge rosters - you can almost create two bubbles - with bubble switch protocol. The Midweek team and the SEC Weekend Team. To the connoisseurs, those Midweek games would be bad-ass and valuable to the younger kids. They get to play and be the stars. English soccer teams are doing this with their U-23 teams, separate bubbles

We did that with our shop crew, made 2 crews working alternate weeks with no interaction. We did this for first 6 weeks of this crisis.

Santiago
12-31-2020, 06:12 AM
A block generic M with an arrow is some how better than a bold M with a State banner?????

I don't get the hate that comes from a lot of State fans regarding the MState logo.

For me at least, the fact that we literally copied the graphic from Marshall ( I heard we even asked their SID for information on the graphic) and made the Mstate logo is a big reason to hate it. Then the university forcing the copied logo onto everything. Just a sign of laziness to copy from another school and then mass market it as your own. Every time I see the Mstate it reminds me of a reflection of laziness and lack of creativity at the time. Thank goodness Polk or whoever on the baseball side of things balked at allowing it on the baseball uniforms, even though there was a season or so where the university tried it.

The Flying M at least derived from the academic side of the university and has history and meaning. Allows the conversation of the logo to involve MSU academics and involvement in the space program.

The Flying M is unique as a logo, whereas the Mstate is a graphic type seen by a few other schools also. Iowa State, Marshall come to mind quickly.

Santiago
12-31-2020, 06:20 AM
I don't hate the MState logo. I wish we'd stick with maroon & white (the gray stripe is OK, as are the silver pants) - but I'll admit the black uniforms we had for our last game looked pretty good (much better than any of our alternate uniforms have looked since we started using them, IMO).

The uniform of the Flying M, not even the helmet, looked good. Clean and simple. Seeing the All American and All SEC announcements of players and snapshots of them playing in that uniform look good.

BrunswickDawg
12-31-2020, 09:16 AM
For me at least, the fact that we literally copied the graphic from Marshall ( I heard we even asked their SID for information on the graphic) and made the Mstate logo is a big reason to hate it. Then the university forcing the copied logo onto everything. Just a sign of laziness to copy from another school and then mass market it as your own. Every time I see the Mstate it reminds me of a reflection of laziness and lack of creativity at the time. Thank goodness Polk or whoever on the baseball side of things balked at allowing it on the baseball uniforms, even though there was a season or so where the university tried it.

The Flying M at least derived from the academic side of the university and has history and meaning. Allows the conversation of the logo to involve MSU academics and involvement in the space program.

The Flying M is unique as a logo, whereas the Mstate is a graphic type seen by a few other schools also. Iowa State, Marshall come to mind quickly.

No offense, but we started using the MState in basketball at least as early as '96, and started putting on the 50 yard line in 1997. Marshall didn't adopt a logo with the M and a bar with "The Herd" on it until 2001.

Santiago
12-31-2020, 09:29 AM
No offense, but we started using the MState in basketball at least as early as '96, and started putting on the 50 yard line in 1997. Marshall didn't adopt a logo with the M and a bar with "The Herd" on it until 2001.

Marshall Track, not the Thundering Herd .
The idea came from it.
But it does lead into a good question of how did several universities start using the same clip art type graphic. Not that I researched all of them, but odd that others also have it as well.
It just is not very unique.
The last Saturday of games, Iowa State with their Banner Istate and black uniforms looked similar to our black uniforms being worn on same day. Just a couple of state schools wearing black and with the same Banner State over their letter.
That is my soap box I guess for logos, ha, so I appreciate the conversation about it actually.
Flying M seem to me more unique.

Hambone
12-31-2020, 09:46 AM
https://twitter.com/hailstatefb/status/1344648406082400259?s=21

State82
12-31-2020, 09:47 AM
Yep a club sport we play in a 41 million dollar facility. Flank off.

Actually $68 million but I fully agree.

msbulldog
12-31-2020, 10:13 AM
Actually $68 million but I fully agree.

My bad, coming off the top of my head (mistake), maybe that was the original figure???

Dogbone
12-31-2020, 11:20 AM
https://twitter.com/hailstatefb/status/1344648406082400259?s=21

Thanks!

Joebob
12-31-2020, 11:25 AM
I don't care for the stripes on the shoulders, but that's just me.

Cooterpoot
12-31-2020, 11:38 AM
All maroon. How Russell Athletics of us.

BrunswickDawg
12-31-2020, 11:38 AM
Marshall Track, not the Thundering Herd .
The idea came from it.
But it does lead into a good question of how did several universities start using the same clip art type graphic. Not that I researched all of them, but odd that others also have it as well.
It just is not very unique.
The last Saturday of games, Iowa State with their Banner Istate and black uniforms looked similar to our black uniforms being worn on same day. Just a couple of state schools wearing black and with the same Banner State over their letter.
That is my soap box I guess for logos, ha, so I appreciate the conversation about it actually.
Flying M seem to me more unique.

Track? Never would have thought that. As for everyone using the same look - that's easy. "Creative" firms and consultants aren't all that "creative" and original. They copy what works and what is perceived as popular.

I love the Flying M - but I also understand how it isn't readily apparent that it is Mississippi State. I think "State" schools always have a harder time with branding and logos then the "University of ...." schools that get to use a simple letter (Michigan, Georgia, Florida, etc). I think that is why so many people identify with the M over S and the interlocking MSU of the later 90s - you see that on a baseball cap and you know who it is immediately who it is.

Cooterpoot
12-31-2020, 11:39 AM
Flying M is trash. JMO

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:07 PM
Let's go! What's a start!! Freshman looking good and so is run game.

chef dixon
12-31-2020, 12:07 PM
7-0, great start.

BrunswickDawg
12-31-2020, 12:08 PM
Great return Tulu and great play calls for Will

RocketDawg
12-31-2020, 12:08 PM
The boys are looking really good on the opening drive. 7-0; scored is under 3 game minutes.

Commercecomet24
12-31-2020, 12:08 PM
Great start. Now defense turn

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 12:08 PM
So where is Ruiz?

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:09 PM
Can't ask for anything more. How long has it been with a start like that?

chef dixon
12-31-2020, 12:09 PM
Freshman all over the place

Commercecomet24
12-31-2020, 12:09 PM
If we can run like this they gonna have to get out of zone and open up the passing game. I
Like it.

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:10 PM
Happy for Errol

preachermatt83
12-31-2020, 12:10 PM
Normal Mike leach is great but if he continues to evolve like he is he will be unstoppable.

RocketDawg
12-31-2020, 12:11 PM
Looking good so far. Scored early, defense looking substantial. I think caught Tulsa by surprise.

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 12:11 PM
Playing a tad too soft in the secondary

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:12 PM
Looking good so far. Scored early, defense looking substantial. I think caught Tulsa by surprise.

Yeah just need an opening drive stop

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 12:12 PM
Massive hold on the LT missed there

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:13 PM
Left tackle had a lot of jersey

Liverpooldawg
12-31-2020, 12:13 PM
The left tackle for Tulsa is holding every single play. He isn't even trying to hide it. They aren't going to call it.

Liverpooldawg
12-31-2020, 12:14 PM
Watch that left tackle. I've never seen anything like it.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 12:16 PM
Our DE's are struggling. Clearly need to upgrade talent there.

preachermatt83
12-31-2020, 12:17 PM
Normal Mike leach is great but if he continues to evolve like he is he will be unstoppable.

chef dixon
12-31-2020, 12:17 PM
Someone needs to spear 73 in the pecker

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:17 PM
Good job D. Ouch on field position.

starkvegasdawg
12-31-2020, 12:18 PM
Now need to be careful this deep in our territory.

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:18 PM
Someone needs to spear 73 in the pecker

Ha. Damn

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:19 PM
Now need to be careful this deep in our territory.

Run it like we did.

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 12:19 PM
Good place to get Dillion the ball here

parabrave
12-31-2020, 12:20 PM
Watch that left tackle. I've never seen anything like it.

Apparently you didn't watch the Jackie Sherrill BYU game.

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 12:22 PM
Nice series there

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 12:22 PM
Apparently you didn't watch the Jackie Sherrill BYU game.
No kidding. That may have been the worst holding game of all time.

TimberBeast
12-31-2020, 12:24 PM
Stupid playcalling there, handed them the ball on our side of the field. That is simple stuff.

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 12:25 PM
The third down play was ok - Walley just didn’t get away from the guy

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 12:26 PM
Odom doesn't keep containment.

TimberBeast
12-31-2020, 12:27 PM
The third down play was ok - Walley just didn’t get away from the guy

The first down play was the problem.

Randolph Dupree
12-31-2020, 12:28 PM
Yes, it was during the regional or SR........

That's what I thought. Just couldn't remember. I'm surprised he didn't leave this last year.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 12:29 PM
I wonder if Colin Duncan is unavailable b/c Jay Jimison is playing over him.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 12:29 PM
Eroll is playing very well. 3 nice plays so far.

starkvegasdawg
12-31-2020, 12:30 PM
I think by mid third quarter our defensive line is going to have also worn out the o line of Tulsa.

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 12:31 PM
Good question on Duncan as he played well vs Mizzou

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 12:32 PM
Good question on Duncan as he played well vs Mizzou

Twitter says he started, but he wasn't in on that possession.

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:32 PM
Nice to get field position D.

chef dixon
12-31-2020, 12:33 PM
Don't know who Jimison is but he made a decent play

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:35 PM
Terribly slow throw on swing pass. I guess it's wet though.

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:37 PM
D line for Tulsa calling snap count?? Awful lot of pointing by us.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 12:38 PM
brutal breakdowns in protection. Looks like Will had Walley.

Liverpooldawg
12-31-2020, 12:38 PM
Apparently you didn't watch the Jackie Sherrill BYU game.

I saw that one. Watch their left tackle.

TimberBeast
12-31-2020, 12:39 PM
D line for Tulsa calling snap count?? Awful lot of pointing by us.

It worked

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 12:39 PM
How does a spin move by a 350 guy beat your center?

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 12:39 PM
Nice drive till we quit running the ball. They can't stop our run.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 12:40 PM
I really like leach's jacket. Where can I get one?

Ugly, ugly possession

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 12:40 PM
Boy that went downhill quickly -

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 12:40 PM
Don't know who Jimison is but he made a decent play

Walk on from Juco.

TimberBeast
12-31-2020, 12:40 PM
Nice drive till we quit running the ball. They can't stop our run.

Yep

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 12:40 PM
Tulsa plays cheap - barking our snap count, holding every play, running the mouth.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 12:41 PM
I'll be glad when we can figure out a way to get Tulu on the field more.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 12:41 PM
Tulsa plays cheap - barking our snap count, holding every play, running the mouth.

Don't we seem to be in chippy games every week? Maybe it isn't just Tulsa

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 12:43 PM
I'll be glad when we can figure out a way to get Tulu on the field more.

He is perfect bubble screen guy

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 12:44 PM
Don't we seem to be in chippy games every week? Maybe it isn't just Tulsa

Maybe I missed it but other than egg bowl what other games

msstate7
12-31-2020, 12:44 PM
He is perfect bubble screen guy

He's flat out electric. I saw him a lot at Philly high.

Percho
12-31-2020, 12:44 PM
Dr Pepper

msstate7
12-31-2020, 12:45 PM
Maybe I missed it but other than egg bowl what other games?

Auburn

parabrave
12-31-2020, 12:45 PM
Tulsa plays cheap - barking our snap count, holding every play, running the mouth.

Boout like BYU. That was the biggest POS team ever.

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 12:46 PM
Darn - big play Tulsa on Emerson

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 12:46 PM
Tulsa outplaying us on both sides of ball now. We better get our heads in game.

Saltydog
12-31-2020, 12:47 PM
We may be ahead (as of now) but we're getting outplayed. We look like shit.

BayouDawg
12-31-2020, 12:47 PM
Forbes has looked better than Emerson recently

msstate7
12-31-2020, 12:48 PM
I always get a kick out of olinemen pushing the rb forward like that. You know that sheet hurts

msstate7
12-31-2020, 12:49 PM
Forbes has looked better than Emerson recently

I'm still shocked Forbes is playing and playing well in the sec after seeing him his senior year. He was great, but tiny. He's gonna be really good when he gets some weight on him

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 12:49 PM
Yeah they are playing a little more physical than us right now

defiantdog
12-31-2020, 12:50 PM
Jimison?

parabrave
12-31-2020, 12:50 PM
Dam Refs suck. where did they get these Guys/gals?

chef dixon
12-31-2020, 12:51 PM
I mean that throw and route were perfect on Emerson

Hambone
12-31-2020, 12:53 PM
Walkons making plays early on for us

msstate7
12-31-2020, 12:53 PM
I mean that throw and route were perfect on Emerson

They were, but he was beat by a couple steps

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 12:53 PM
I mean that throw and route were perfect on Emerson

We also blitzed and didn't get there.

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 12:55 PM
We aren’t getting in the backfield quickly on our blitzes - they are doing a good job picking them up

msstate7
12-31-2020, 12:56 PM
This feels like a big drive. Hopefully they try tulu

msstate7
12-31-2020, 12:57 PM
Is Tulsa stupid?

msstate7
12-31-2020, 12:59 PM
Marks takes the biggest hits.

BeardoMSU
12-31-2020, 12:59 PM
Jesus these damn flags.

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:00 PM
We just can't play two games in a row good.

basedog
12-31-2020, 01:01 PM
Just play football. Damn!

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:01 PM
Great play Will and Austin

preachermatt83
12-31-2020, 01:01 PM
I despise officials who like to be seen. Become a part of the game. It?s so stupid

starkvegasdawg
12-31-2020, 01:02 PM
Are the refs paid by the flag?

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:02 PM
I really liked that throw to Austin. Will standing in there as a freshman is impressive

preachermatt83
12-31-2020, 01:03 PM
This group of officials are embarrassing themselves

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 01:03 PM
Our offensive line has regressed to early season form

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:03 PM
Will not good today

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:03 PM
Kam Jones having a rough first half.

Matt3467
12-31-2020, 01:04 PM
Will has near Costello like pocket mobility

starkvegasdawg
12-31-2020, 01:04 PM
If we can't block three rushers from a piss conference then I don't know what to say.

Saltydog
12-31-2020, 01:04 PM
We're back to our pre UGA offense. A complete cluster......

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:05 PM
Johnson is a load. Does his style fit this offense? He would've been a really good fit in Mullen's offense

mparkerfd20
12-31-2020, 01:05 PM
Our O line looks like dog shit today.

chef dixon
12-31-2020, 01:05 PM
I mean yea we could block better, but Rogers pocket presence has to be better there. Its a slow rush

Dawgsfanalongtime77
12-31-2020, 01:05 PM
Kinda hard to be successful when it?s 3rd and forever every time. Flags galore. It?s like watching a beer league game. Tulsa players are absolute punks.

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:06 PM
I despise officials who like to be seen. Become a part of the game. It?s so stupid

Agree

Dawgology
12-31-2020, 01:06 PM
Couple of things: we have waaaaaaay too many self-inflicted penalties.

Also, Rogers will be a good backup to Robertson next season. He is in no way a starting QB for the SEC.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:07 PM
If we can't block three rushers from a piss conference then I don't know what to say.

And no help on the way at Tackle via recruiting.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:07 PM
I mean yea we could block better, but Rogers pocket presence has to be better there. Its a slow rush

I'm as hard on will as anyone, but that was a rush 3 drop 8... he has a lot to process in the secondary, and the pressure was there quick. I blame oline there

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:07 PM
I mean yea we could block better, but Rogers pocket presence has to be better there. Its a slow rush

Will holding ball too long and like you said he has no pocket presence today.

Hambone
12-31-2020, 01:08 PM
What happened to him getting outside the pocket and taking off?

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:08 PM
I'm as hard on will as anyone, but that was a rush 3 drop 8... he has a lot to process in the secondary, and the pressure was there quick. I blame oline there

Well that is the problem with throwing on drop 8. Causes the QB to hold the ball studying the field. Hence why you need to run to open up the pass. Football is simple.

maroonmania
12-31-2020, 01:09 PM
Our tackling is really bad today.

State82
12-31-2020, 01:10 PM
This has turned into a cf

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 01:10 PM
We have missed a bunch of tackles today

TimberBeast
12-31-2020, 01:10 PM
Nice tackle there

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:10 PM
Well that is the problem with throwing on drop 8. Causes the QB to hold the ball studying the field. Hence why you need to run to open up the pass. Football is simple.

I don't disagree, but that was a pass. Oline has to hold up better there.

maroonmania
12-31-2020, 01:11 PM
On the replay Preston didn't even try to wrap up. Looked more like he was trying to block him.

Hambone
12-31-2020, 01:11 PM
What in the hell did Preston just do?

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:12 PM
We need Santana on our team

maroonmania
12-31-2020, 01:12 PM
3rd down conversions over and over given up by our defense.

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:12 PM
Well their QB looks pretty good. All that research that he wasn't very good?

BigEasyDawg
12-31-2020, 01:12 PM
What in the hell did Preston just do?

he also stopped running once the runner got loose. Sit down Preston

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 01:12 PM
Their qb is playing really well - but basically when we look bad on D it’s almost always our safeties

starkvegasdawg
12-31-2020, 01:13 PM
Our secondary couldn't cover a troop of crippled Girl Scouts.

maroonmania
12-31-2020, 01:13 PM
Are we trying to tackle or play pinball?

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:13 PM
We look tired and not even wanting to play now?

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 01:13 PM
There was like 7 missed tackles on that one run - we aren’t wrapping up at all

Dawgsfanalongtime77
12-31-2020, 01:13 PM
One ugly game.

mparkerfd20
12-31-2020, 01:13 PM
Worst we've looked on O and D in a while. Figures.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:14 PM
That's a man tackle

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:14 PM
Well that is the problem with throwing on drop 8. Causes the QB to hold the ball studying the field. Hence why you need to run to open up the pass. Football is simple.

Tulsa is giving us the run but Leach won't take it.

BayouDawg
12-31-2020, 01:15 PM
This reminds me of the Kentucky game in 2018. They got in our face in pregame and we totally lost composure.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:15 PM
Who is timbs?

Saltydog
12-31-2020, 01:16 PM
That's the thing that irked me. He just casually jogged......I would've jerked his ass of the field immediately........

chef dixon
12-31-2020, 01:16 PM
We got walk ons and no names all over defense guys. They are playing fine. The Arnett D in the redzone is stout

maroonmania
12-31-2020, 01:16 PM
Tulsa has a good defense. I'm very disappointed in our D not making stops right now. That Tulsa drive right there went about 90 yards before we stopped them. Drive started on the 2.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:16 PM
We look tired and not even wanting to play now?

Well, a couple of first downs on offense would help.

BigEasyDawg
12-31-2020, 01:16 PM
Who is timbs?

Walk-on from Indianola Academy i believe

BayouDawg
12-31-2020, 01:17 PM
Tulsa is giving us the run but Leach won't take it.

Every time we get rolling with the run game we get a stupid false start and get behind the chains.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:17 PM
Who is timbs?

Walk on. We are playing 3 walk on's on defense. Side note: We have 1 DB committed/signed.

Dawgology
12-31-2020, 01:18 PM
Maybe we will get more yards than penalties this series...

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:18 PM
Tulsa is giving us the run but Leach won't take it.

Oh, no you have to research Leach. The run is hard to teach and execute; he is going to work that run in by year 2 or 3. Work on the pass first. Oh wait, the pass ain't doing squat either. So what is Leach coaching us on?

Maroonthirteen
12-31-2020, 01:19 PM
Who is timbs?

A 6ft 2in tall athlete from Indianola, MS.

Reminds me of Tem's grocery in Macon.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:19 PM
Damn, great return, but I wish he had planted that left foot and cut inside.

BrunswickDawg
12-31-2020, 01:20 PM
Tulu is going to break one before today is over

Percho
12-31-2020, 01:20 PM
We need to throw one deep

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:20 PM
We got walk ons and no names all over defense guys. They are playing fine. The Arnett D in the redzone is stout

That's a good point for today. Now with a look to the future, hoops says we have 1 db signed. This has to be concerning

Maroonthirteen
12-31-2020, 01:21 PM
We need to throw one deep

Insert laughing emoji. This offense doesn't have a route over 2 yards deep.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:21 PM
Tulu is going to break one before today is over

He's gonna break a few before his career is over. He's great at it.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:22 PM
Running a tunnel screen into a 3 man rush just makes me LOL.

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:24 PM
That's the thing that irked me. He just casually jogged......I would've jerked his ass of the field immediately........

Preston plays hard. Maybe he tweaked a hamstring or something?

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 01:24 PM
Yeah I don’t get that screen call against that D - it hasn’t gone for more than 2 yards all year

Percho
12-31-2020, 01:24 PM
Where is 5 today

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:25 PM
Out of bounds will

maroonmania
12-31-2020, 01:26 PM
Rogers calls TO and THEN gets a delay of game. That is awful.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:26 PM
Alright, I took up for will earlier. That was unacceptable

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 01:26 PM
The offensive is just struggling - this is an inaccurate as we have seen Will all year

Matt3467
12-31-2020, 01:26 PM
Good grief Will

Dawgsfanalongtime77
12-31-2020, 01:26 PM
A delay of game after an incomplete pass? That?s completely inexcusable

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:27 PM
Man, marks, you can't make that guy miss? I've not been that impressed with marks

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 01:27 PM
Our run game will be so much better when we can actually make the first guy miss in the open field on occasion

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:28 PM
Tulsa is DAF. Why do you not take the TO to force a punt? This could bite them

chef dixon
12-31-2020, 01:28 PM
Dumb clock management. Bring it down to like 12 seconds so if you get a first you can kick a field goal

Cooterpoot
12-31-2020, 01:28 PM
Will Rogers has had a horrible game. Bad throws, holding it, delay of games. Just bad today.

Bdawg
12-31-2020, 01:29 PM
Man, marks, you can't make that guy miss? I've not been that impressed with marks

Me either.

Maroonthirteen
12-31-2020, 01:29 PM
Running a tunnel screen into a 3 man rush just makes me LOL.

Air raid. Sound the siren.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:29 PM
What the hell was that?! Take a timout with 25 seconds left and try to get the first down. Shit, I think Leach may be a dumbass.

msugolf
12-31-2020, 01:29 PM
We have zero RBs with the ability to make people miss

Dawgface
12-31-2020, 01:29 PM
First drive of the game was impressive. Shit since.

Percho
12-31-2020, 01:29 PM
Agree Chef

Quaoarsking
12-31-2020, 01:30 PM
Should've tried the 55-yard field goal. More likely to make that than a Hail Mary.

Saltydog
12-31-2020, 01:30 PM
We just aren't prepared. The only player that looks like they want to be there is Griffin. Everyone else just going thru the motions.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:30 PM
Rogers calls TO and THEN gets a delay of game. That is awful.

We run a no-huddle offense. We called a timeout. And we still get a delay of game. That is next level bad.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:30 PM
Should've tried the 55-yard field goal. More likely to make that than a Hail Mary.

Is Ruiz available?

msugolf
12-31-2020, 01:31 PM
Rogers ain?t it guys. I know that several here like him but he doesn?t have the zip or accuracy to make this offense go against better than average teams

Saltydog
12-31-2020, 01:31 PM
And the chances that you're going to get one is highly unlikely with this offense. It's just not appealing to a good RB recruit.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:31 PM
First drive of the game was impressive. Shit since.

It was a 38-yard drive, right? Tulu set that up on a platter

Quaoarsking
12-31-2020, 01:32 PM
Is Ruiz available?

I don't know, but I think Christmann is more likely to hit a 55-yarder than we are to get a Hail Mary TD.

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:32 PM
Like I've said all year, until we do something consistently (like two or more games) we ain't fixed nothing. We've spent all year and don't look any better than early season.

Someone tell me we are improved? How is next year going to be better?

bluelightstar
12-31-2020, 01:33 PM
Rogers is just not it

NCDawg
12-31-2020, 01:34 PM
One good point was Timbs sacking the QB on a blitz. Most of the times we can't get to the QB on a blitz.

Dawgology
12-31-2020, 01:35 PM
Rogers isn?t the answer for starting QB. He seems like a good guy and will be a hell of a backup to Robertson.

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:36 PM
First drive of the game was impressive. Shit since.

Yeah like two plays - both running. Imagine that. But we are working on fixing the passing game the rest of the half or game.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:36 PM
I don't know, but I think Christmann is more likely to hit a 55-yarder than we are to get a Hail Mary TD.

I don't think Christmann can come even close to that

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:37 PM
Is Ruiz available?

Yeah I was thinking FG all the way too.

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 01:38 PM
I want to Will after a year in the college strength program - I’m still not sure his arm talent is anything special but it’s hard to judge a true freshman

basedog
12-31-2020, 01:41 PM
Sloppy indeed. Thank goodness we have a good goal line defense.

Our offense is so slow, but this game is about what I thought it would be. Let’s hope we out coach Tulsa this half, gotta find some offense.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:41 PM
Yeah I was thinking FG all the way too.

That was a terrible job by Leach. You have to try and convert the first down. We ran the clock down to 1 second and threw a hail mary from the 38. No plan at all.

Turfdawg67
12-31-2020, 01:42 PM
9 pages already... we must be losing. The Leach/Rogers haters/bitchers are out in full force I'd assume.

Cooterpoot
12-31-2020, 01:42 PM
Yeah I was thinking FG all the way too.

Ruiz opted out and is done.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:42 PM
Rogers isn?t the answer for starting QB. He seems like a good guy and will be a hell of a backup to Robertson.

You guys can knock Will and that's fine. I agree he is not an elite talent. But there are many more problems than Will and the big one is a guy named Mike Leach who hasn't adjusted his offense in 20 years.

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:43 PM
That was a terrible job by Leach. You have to try and convert the first down. We ran the clock down to 1 second and threw a hail mary from the 38. No plan at all.

Ah, now I get it. Leach was still working on the passing game.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:44 PM
Ruiz opted out and is done.

How does a kicker opt out. WTF.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:44 PM
Ruiz opted out and is done.

What a weird decision. Did he think he'd get hurt in the bowl?

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:44 PM
You guys can knock Will and that's fine. I agree he is not an elite talent. But there are many more problems than Will and the big one is a guy named Mike Leach who hasn't adjusted his offense in 20 years.

Correct, Will is good enough but he ain't the problem.

Cooterpoot
12-31-2020, 01:45 PM
We couldn't kick a 50 yard FG (No Ruiz and terrible winds) and we dam sure didn't need to give them the ball at midfield with time left.

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:45 PM
Ruiz opted out and is done.

How fitting; one of our best kickers in a while. We probably lose by a FG, the one right before half we could have kicked.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:46 PM
We couldn't kick a 50 yard FG (No Ruiz and terrible winds) and we dam sure didn't need to give them the ball at midfield with time left.

Well it was 1 second left, but I agree, no shot at a fg

R2Dawg
12-31-2020, 01:47 PM
We couldn't kick a 50 yard FG (No Ruiz and terrible winds) and we dam sure didn't need to give them the ball at midfield with time left.

I thought Ruiz was available. No problem running the clock down and kick FG but if no kick, lot more things we should have done since we had no O the whole first half and they get ball in 3rd. Terrible game mgt.

Cooterpoot
12-31-2020, 01:48 PM
You guys can knock Will and that's fine. I agree he is not an elite talent. But there are many more problems than Will and the big one is a guy named Mike Leach who hasn't adjusted his offense in 20 years.

The last QB from Brandon ran his offense fine a few years ago. It's just a bad game today. It was vs AU. He's a FR.

Irondawg
12-31-2020, 01:49 PM
Well the good news is the offense can’t play much worse so hopefully we pick it up a bit.

What I’ve been disappointed in as well as how Tulsa looks overall to be stronger than us physically. Maybe it’s an upperclassman thing versus our young guys but we are getting pushed around more than I thought we would

Santiago
12-31-2020, 01:50 PM
Track? Never would have thought that. As for everyone using the same look - that's easy. "Creative" firms and consultants aren't all that "creative" and original. They copy what works and what is perceived as popular.

I love the Flying M - but I also understand how it isn't readily apparent that it is Mississippi State. I think "State" schools always have a harder time with branding and logos then the "University of ...." schools that get to use a simple letter (Michigan, Georgia, Florida, etc). I think that is why so many people identify with the M over S and the interlocking MSU of the later 90s - you see that on a baseball cap and you know who it is immediately who it is.

Same page with you on it all. Washington state is a good example possibly of a state school with a log in sports you recognize and it really doesn't have STATE waving across it. It is a unique logo that most all college fans recognize. I would think it only takes a season or so and any unique logo starts being recognized outside the footprint of the southeast, just due to so much TV exposure.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:50 PM
We have 129 yards of offense

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:51 PM
The last QB from Brandon ran his offense fine a few years ago. It's just a bad game today. It was vs AU. He's a FR.

agree to disagree.

State82
12-31-2020, 01:51 PM
What a shit show

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:51 PM
I really want leach's jacket.

maroonmania
12-31-2020, 01:51 PM
Well the good news is the offense can’t play much worse so hopefully we pick it up a bit.

What I’ve been disappointed in as well as how Tulsa looks overall to be stronger than us physically. Maybe it’s an upperclassman thing versus our young guys but we are getting pushed around more than I thought we would

Possibly could get worse because the weather is getting worse.

State82
12-31-2020, 01:52 PM
I really want leach's jacket.

Hell, I would be willing to give you his jacket AND his job.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:52 PM
Give Johnson some runs

maroonmania
12-31-2020, 01:53 PM
We have 129 yards of offense

We were way outplayed after the first series. Tulsa's second FG came on a drive starting at the 2. They had to have WAY more yards of offense than we did.

msstate7
12-31-2020, 01:53 PM
Hell, I would be willing to give you his jacket AND his job.

I might could come up with 129 1st half yards lol

Santiago
12-31-2020, 01:53 PM
I really want leach's jacket.

agree. If someone knows where he got it, please share.

HoopsDawg
12-31-2020, 01:54 PM
I might could come up with 129 1st half yards lol

Unlike Mizzou, it doesn't like Tulsa is going to help us out and play man 2 man.