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99jc
12-16-2020, 07:09 AM
option to take the covid vaccine but have opted out would you all take it just trying to get the general consensus of how others feel not media generated responses.
Hail state!

basedog
12-16-2020, 07:12 AM
I'm not, I also have never taken flu shot. To each there own.

Leeshouldveflanked
12-16-2020, 07:17 AM
California has been shut down with mask mandates nearly the whole pandemic... it shouldn?t be bad there.** as far as the Covid Vaccine, it should be available to general public around March... so if there are side effects, they will be for the most part known.

Dawgfan77
12-16-2020, 07:29 AM
Yes I will take it anything to get life back to as normal as possible.

FISHDAWG
12-16-2020, 08:03 AM
nope ... but good luck out there

SPMT
12-16-2020, 08:16 AM
not yet.

DownwardDawg
12-16-2020, 08:19 AM
I take flu vaccine every year due to how many people I'm around in my work. I will not take the covid vaccine unless my company "leans on me" hard enough.

msstate7
12-16-2020, 08:24 AM
I'm not, I also have never taken flu shot. To each there own.

Took flu shot 1 time, and I got the flu... the only time I got the flu in my life. I don't plan to take the flu shot again, and I won't be taking the covid shot.

State82
12-16-2020, 08:35 AM
I am going to stay tuned to how the first rounds of vaccinations go and then decide. I never had a flu shot either but I may think about getting one. I am not sure that I have ever had the flu actually. Good luck 99!

msstatelp1
12-16-2020, 08:46 AM
Yes once this first round is through. I figure any problems will be identified with it.

DownwardDawg
12-16-2020, 08:47 AM
Had the flu once and it was horrible. Been taking the flu shot for years since I work offshore. No issues since.

Martianlander
12-16-2020, 08:56 AM
I'm going to wait and see about the side effects. Not going to take it yet.

KentuckyDawg13
12-16-2020, 08:57 AM
Where in Cali? Bigger metro areas, if I had the opportunity I would get it. I usually do not get the flu shot, but had to this year due to new job (@ hospital). Was sore in the arm for a couple of days. Not a big deal.
Personally, I am going to wait and see in terms of the covid vaccine. Since healthy, I am near the end of the line anyways. If I had to guess, April/May timeline I will have the opportunity so will have plenty of time to decide for sure.
Good luck.

FISHDAWG
12-16-2020, 08:57 AM
Took flu shot 1 time, and I got the flu... the only time I got the flu in my life. I don't plan to take the flu shot again, and I won't be taking the covid shot.

same here with the Flu shot ... but back then they injected a LIVE virus - todays Flu shots use a DEAD virus and now I get the shot

msstate7
12-16-2020, 09:04 AM
same here with the Flu shot ... but back then they injected a LIVE virus - todays Flu shots use a DEAD virus and now I get the shot

That's most likely the case then. It was many years ago.

viverlibre
12-16-2020, 09:07 AM
I don't get the flu shot and will put off the COVID shot as long as possible.

Barkman Turner Overdrive
12-16-2020, 09:10 AM
option to take the covid vaccine but have opted out would you all take it just trying to get the general consensus of how others feel not media generated responses.
Hail state!

I was offered to take it sometime this month on a date TBD with the follow on shot next month. I declined, but I will eventually have to take it.

DownwardDawg
12-16-2020, 09:13 AM
That's most likely the case then. It was many years ago.

Yeah. You can't get it from the vaccine these days. But that was a common deal back in the day.

SteelCurtain74
12-16-2020, 09:17 AM
Nope.

magrooder
12-16-2020, 09:21 AM
I haven't decided yet, but I'm leaning towards getting the vaccine. I'm an old guy taking care of my elderly parents, anything I can do to protect them I feel like I should do.

bostondawg
12-16-2020, 09:23 AM
Please, please, please take the vaccine. The closer we get to herd immunity the closer we can all go back to normal. This vaccine is totally safe and shown to be effective (both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines).

Truly, vaccines are one of the greatest inventions in human history. Full stop.

Johnson85
12-16-2020, 09:24 AM
option to take the covid vaccine but have opted out would you all take it just trying to get the general consensus of how others feel not media generated responses.
Hail state!

I personally will not be in a hurry to take it. Don't have any risk factors and the survival rate is similar to flu for my profile. I will take it once it has been in circulation for a little while without any negative effects. I will encourage my parents to take it.

If I were you and being deployed to hot zones, I would be more likely to take it, but I'd still like to see it in circulation for at least a few months to see if any negative effects pop up.

msstate7
12-16-2020, 09:31 AM
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1338917618808475648?s=21

If the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting or spreading the virus, why does a certain threshold of vaccinated matter?

Dawg2003
12-16-2020, 09:34 AM
I have decided to take the vaccine when I can. I've gone back and forth bit decided by the time it gets to me, enough people will have taken it to get at least a little data on it.

Mobile Bay
12-16-2020, 09:35 AM
Took flu shot 1 time, and I got the flu... the only time I got the flu in my life. I don't plan to take the flu shot again, and I won't be taking the covid shot.

You should have taken logic too.

Ad hoc ergo proctor hoc is a fallacy.

Mobile Bay
12-16-2020, 09:37 AM
Yes once this first round is through. I figure any problems will be identified with it.

Thousands upon thousands of people have taken it already. Look at the trial data. The problems are known.

Mobile Bay
12-16-2020, 09:39 AM
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1338917618808475648?s=21

If the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting or spreading the virus, why does a certain threshold of vaccinated matter?

Vaccines DO prevent you form getting the virus. They DO prevent you from spreading the virus. That is what they do by definition.

Commercecomet24
12-16-2020, 09:40 AM
Nope.

Be safe out there!

dawgoneyall
12-16-2020, 09:41 AM
I can't believe the number not taking the vaccine!

Oh well.......

msstate7
12-16-2020, 09:43 AM
Vaccines DO prevent you form getting the virus. They DO prevent you from spreading the virus. That is what they do by definition.

Did you watch the video? He clearly says we don't know if they prevent the virus or the spread. Now maybe this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

defiantdog
12-16-2020, 09:44 AM
I will..... I've had it..... Bunch of my employees have had it..... And I don't want to risk getting it again. That shit was not fun.

BiscuitEater
12-16-2020, 10:02 AM
same here with the Flu shot ... but back then they injected a LIVE virus - todays Flu shots use a DEAD virus and now I get the shot

Even the CDC own statistics state the efficacy of the yearly flu shot from 21-55% over the last couple of years.

Biggest problem is guessing which flu strain will be prominent.

BiscuitEater
12-16-2020, 10:08 AM
Thousands upon thousands of people have taken it already. Look at the trial data. The problems are known.

Having looked at the Pfizer data, they 'eliminated' EVERY volunteer that had an allergy!

Pfizer is NOT liable to pay anybody anything if the vaccine has side effects or even kills you.

Does the vaccine make you sterile? Can't be determined yet?

FISHDAWG
12-16-2020, 10:13 AM
Having looked at the Pfizer data, they 'eliminated' EVERY volunteer that had an allergy!

Pfizer is NOT liable to pay anybody anything if the vaccine has side effects or even kills you.

Does the vaccine make you sterile? Can't be determined yet?

also the LONG TERM effects / problems are NOT known

AROB44
12-16-2020, 10:13 AM
I will take it when available to me. I still believe in science.

Mobile Bay
12-16-2020, 10:13 AM
Did you watch the video? He clearly says we don't know if they prevent the virus or the spread. Now maybe this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

It's on MSNBC, nobody on there knows what they are talking about.

msstate7
12-16-2020, 10:13 AM
Having looked at the Pfizer data, they 'eliminated' EVERY volunteer that had an allergy!

Pfizer is NOT liable to pay anybody anything if the vaccine has side effects or even kills you.

Does the vaccine make you sterile? Can't be determined yet?

Didn't realize this on allergies. Google search says 50 million Americans have allergies

msstate7
12-16-2020, 10:15 AM
I will take it when available to me. I still believe in science.

Well science changes. Just in this thread, there was talk of how the flu shot has morphed.

msstate7
12-16-2020, 10:16 AM
I think if you're high risk, why not? If you aren't though, this isn't just cut and dry imo

Wingnutdawg
12-16-2020, 10:28 AM
Nope...long term side effects won?t be know for years, the fact that in less than 1 year we have a vaccine should be a hard Hell no.

Boston
12-16-2020, 10:31 AM
Nope.

Liverpooldawg
12-16-2020, 10:31 AM
option to take the covid vaccine but have opted out would you all take it just trying to get the general consensus of how others feel not media generated responses.
Hail state!

I'll take just as soon as I possibly can.

Liverpooldawg
12-16-2020, 10:32 AM
California has been shut down with mask mandates nearly the whole pandemic... it shouldn?t be bad there.** as far as the Covid Vaccine, it should be available to general public around March... so if there are side effects, they will be for the most part known.

Actually they let up just like everyone else.

Liverpooldawg
12-16-2020, 10:39 AM
also the LONG TERM effects / problems are NOT known

We ARE starting to see some of the long term effects of COVID. They are not good. I stress SOME. My guess is there is a lot they aren't telling us about the long term effects of COVID. The amount of money and talent being thrown at this is Manhattan Project level, with greater urgency. That should tell you something. Nearly all problems with vaccines show up in the trials.

Liverpooldawg
12-16-2020, 10:43 AM
If you want to go back to normal life (no lockdowns, masks, business restrictions, travel restrictions, gathering restrictions, sports crowd restrictions, church restrictions, and on and on and on) then take the vaccine. If you want this crap to continue for years then by all means don't take the vaccine. That really is the bottom line.

FISHDAWG
12-16-2020, 11:08 AM
We ARE starting to see some of the long term effects of COVID. They are not good. I stress SOME. My guess is there is a lot they aren't telling us about the long term effects of COVID. The amount of money and talent being thrown at this is Manhattan Project level, with greater urgency. That should tell you something. Nearly all problems with vaccines show up in the trials.

I agree about what you said above. My wife is currently experiencing some of these effects 3 months later and they are BAD .... However, I was referring to the long term effect of the Vaccine if there are any

Joebob
12-16-2020, 11:30 AM
I will take it.

msstatelp1
12-16-2020, 11:38 AM
Thousands upon thousands of people have taken it already. Look at the trial data. The problems are known.

I figured most are known just being overly cautious plus I don't qualify for these first round shots anyway.

dawgday166
12-16-2020, 11:38 AM
We can go back to normal if the ones that wanna take it do, and the ones that don't want to don't. Maybe the ones that don't take vaccine will get it who knows, but the people taking vaccine by definition shouldn't get it regardless.

I ain't taking no vaccine, regardless of who makes it or touts it. I get Covid I'm gonna insist on Hydroxy, Azithromycin, and Zinc.

Joebob
12-16-2020, 11:38 AM
Didn't realize this on allergies. Google search says 50 million Americans have allergies

They're only referring to people with extreme anaphylactic shock risk (the people that have to carry an Epi pen).

Joebob
12-16-2020, 11:41 AM
We can go back to normal if the ones that wanna take it do, and the ones that don't want to don't. Maybe the ones that don't take vaccine will get it who knows, but the people taking vaccine by definition shouldn't get it regardless.

I ain't taking no vaccine, regardless of who makes it or touts it. I get Covid I'm gonna insist on Hydroxy, Azithromycin, and Zinc.

Playing doctor can get you killed. Hopefully any doctor you go to will follow the science and not what you want, but there's some that will give in to the patient. Be careful what you ask for.

RougeDawg
12-16-2020, 11:43 AM
Hell no. Go look at the fine print of these vaccines, or any type of vaccine of this sort.

Secondly, why did the AMA come out this week and say hydroxychloroquine is effective against Covid? Why are the American media and government officials mum on all these trials showing Ivermectin is great at preventing Covid infections?

Follow the money. Big pharma can?t make money on cheap ivermectin that?s used on animals or $0.50 a pill hydroxychloroquine. And politicians won?t get big pharma campaign donations if they allow these cheap, effective drugs to be promoted.

Educate yourself before you take anything the government provides. For anyone interested, go research the Austrialing vaccine trial and why it was stopped. If that doesn?t raise any questions, continue on trusting any and everyone.

Dawgbite
12-16-2020, 11:43 AM
I’ll take the vaccine as soon as it’s available to me which will be much later. I’m not essential, I’m not that old yet and the fact that I’m retired means I can pretty much avoid situations that I deem risky. You may have taken a flu shot and ultimately gotten the flu but these two are in no way related. There is some concern of long term side effects but that exist with everything that we eat, drink, and breath. I’ll take a chance that the side effects of eating red meat and drinking beer will get me before the side effects of a vaccine.

dawgday166
12-16-2020, 11:45 AM
Playing doctor can get you killed. Hopefully any doctor you go to will follow the science and not what you want, but there's some that will give in to the patient. Be careful what you ask for.

Listening to dumb doctors can get you killed too. I am the sole responsible person for my life, and I'll take that responsibility. Be a good thing if other folks did the same as far as taking responsibility, but a lot of folks want someone to take care of them. If I make wrong choice at least I made it ... not Gates or Fraudci. The "science" you're following is mostly bullshit.

Mobile Bay
12-16-2020, 11:46 AM
Hell no. Go look at the fine print of these vaccines, or any type of vaccine of this sort.

Secondly, why did the AMA come out this week and say hydroxychloroquine is effective against Covid? Why are the American media and government officials mum on all these trials showing Ivermectin is great at preventing Covid infections?

Follow the money. Big pharma can?t make money on cheap ivermectin that?s used on animals or $0.50 a pill hydroxychloroquine. And politicians won?t get big pharma campaign donations if they allow these cheap, effective drugs to be promoted.

Educate yourself before you take anything the government provides. For anyone interested, go research the Austrialing vaccine trial and why it was stopped. If that doesn?t raise any questions, continue on trusting any and everyone.

Please stop confusing science with talk radio.

SheltonChoked
12-16-2020, 11:48 AM
option to take the covid vaccine but have opted out would you all take it just trying to get the general consensus of how others feel not media generated responses.
Hail state!

I'll take it as soon as I can ( based on way it is being distributed, I'm at the end of the line).

My parents and grandmother will take it ASAP.

Because it works. In 14 days from the first shot.
https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2020-12/processed/pfizer-vs-placebo-shot-cover_1024.jpg
And the only way to get back to how life was a year ago, is for 80-90% of people to get a vaccine.

So I'll ask the question to those that say no, why do you want the Pandemic to last longer?

https://www.sciencealert.com/this-striking-chart-shows-just-how-well-pfizer-s-vaccine-works-to-prevent-covid-19-infections

dawgoneyall
12-16-2020, 11:49 AM
Playing doctor can get you killed. Hopefully any doctor you go to will follow the science and not what you want, but there's some that will give in to the patient. Be careful what you ask for.

So you think plaquenil is going to kill you....that was a liberal lie...just for your information.

Commercecomet24
12-16-2020, 11:50 AM
Listening to dumb doctors can get you killed too. I am the sole responsible person for my life, and I'll take that responsibility. Be a good thing if other folks did the same as far as taking responsibility, but a lot of folks want someone to take care of them. If I make wrong choice at least I made it ... not Gates or Fraudci. The "science" you're following is mostly bullshit.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to dawgday166 again.

SheltonChoked
12-16-2020, 11:53 AM
We can go back to normal if the ones that wanna take it do, and the ones that don't want to don't. Maybe the ones that don't take vaccine will get it who knows, but the people taking vaccine by definition shouldn't get it regardless.

I ain't taking no vaccine, regardless of who makes it or touts it. I get Covid I'm gonna insist on Hydroxy, Azithromycin, and Zinc.

You might as well insist on Leeches and bloodletting.

Dawgology
12-16-2020, 11:57 AM
Yes I will take the vaccine. The trials were robust and the data was available for public consumption. Unless you have a health risk keeping you from taking the vaccine then you are kind of silly for not taking it

Liverpooldawg
12-16-2020, 11:59 AM
We can go back to normal if the ones that wanna take it do, and the ones that don't want to don't. Maybe the ones that don't take vaccine will get it who knows, but the people taking vaccine by definition shouldn't get it regardless.

I ain't taking no vaccine, regardless of who makes it or touts it. I get Covid I'm gonna insist on Hydroxy, Azithromycin, and Zinc.

No we can't. There is still the hospital situation. THAT affects those that take it just as much as the ones who don't. Also, NO vaccine is 100% effective and those that don't take it will still be spreading it. The restrictions will continue as long as that is happening.

Dawgology
12-16-2020, 12:06 PM
No we can't. There is still the hospital situation. THAT affects those that take it just as much as the ones who don't. Also, NO vaccine is 100% effective and those that don't take it will still be spreading it. The restrictions will continue as long as that is happening.

Initial trials indicate a 95%+ efficacy. That’s higher efficacy than almost any other vaccine out there.

Liverpooldawg
12-16-2020, 12:12 PM
Hell no. Go look at the fine print of these vaccines, or any type of vaccine of this sort.

Secondly, why did the AMA come out this week and say hydroxychloroquine is effective against Covid? Why are the American media and government officials mum on all these trials showing Ivermectin is great at preventing Covid infections?

Follow the money. Big pharma can?t make money on cheap ivermectin that?s used on animals or $0.50 a pill hydroxychloroquine. And politicians won?t get big pharma campaign donations if they allow these cheap, effective drugs to be promoted.

Educate yourself before you take anything the government provides. For anyone interested, go research the Austrialing vaccine trial and why it was stopped. If that doesn?t raise any questions, continue on trusting any and everyone.

I have looked that AMA claim up. The ONLY places it turns up are sites I have never heard of. Do you have a link to something reliable?

Liverpooldawg
12-16-2020, 12:15 PM
Initial trials indicate a 95%+ efficacy. That’s higher efficacy than almost any other vaccine out there.

Yes. That still doesn't change anything unless enough people take it. We will not go back to normal if that doesn't happen. I don't get the resistance to this. I grew up being lined up and vaccinated at school for things that we have pretty much eradicated in the US, 100% due to vaccines. Ask people a little older than me about polio summer.

Liverpooldawg
12-16-2020, 12:16 PM
You might as well insist on Leeches and bloodletting.

He just did.

Liverpooldawg
12-16-2020, 12:17 PM
So you think plaquenil is going to kill you....that was a liberal lie...just for your information.

Relying on it if you have severe COVID very well might.

Liverpooldawg
12-16-2020, 12:18 PM
I'll take it as soon as I can ( based on way it is being distributed, I'm at the end of the line).

My parents and grandmother will take it ASAP.

Because it works. In 14 days from the first shot.
https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2020-12/processed/pfizer-vs-placebo-shot-cover_1024.jpg
And the only way to get back to how life was a year ago, is for 80-90% of people to get a vaccine.

So I'll ask the question to those that say no, why do you want the Pandemic to last longer?

https://www.sciencealert.com/this-striking-chart-shows-just-how-well-pfizer-s-vaccine-works-to-prevent-covid-19-infections

That is exactly what they are saying they want. It makes you wonder why.

Joebob
12-16-2020, 12:27 PM
So you think plaquenil is going to kill you....that was a liberal lie...just for your information.

I didn't say that. I'm talking in general. But there ARE serious known side effects regarding Plaquenil, though I'm not sure how often they occur. You can check them out on any reputable pharmaceutical website.

Percho
12-16-2020, 01:13 PM
I'm not, I also have never taken flu shot. To each there own.

Took my first this year.

dawgoneyall
12-16-2020, 01:15 PM
I didn't say that. I'm talking in general. But there ARE serious known side effects regarding Plaquenil, though I'm not sure how often they occur. You can check them out on any reputable pharmaceutical website.

It has to be taken for an extended period to have serious side effects...I assume you are talking about plaquenil maculopathy and corneal deposition.

Bottom line....plaquenil is a very safe drug.

msbulldog
12-16-2020, 01:39 PM
I am, I am in the high risk demo. Stay safe 99, I will send a prayer your way.

msbulldog
12-16-2020, 01:40 PM
And thank you for your service.

SheltonChoked
12-16-2020, 06:07 PM
I don't think HE knows that.

But I'll give him some more "Covid Treatment options" if he wants:

He should try a pocket full of poseys, Rubbing onions, herbs or a chopped up snake on you or cutting up a pigeon and rubbing it over an infected body. You could also try Drinking vinegar, eating crushed minerals, arsenic, mercury or even ten-year-old treacle.

BeardoMSU
12-16-2020, 06:14 PM
Didn't realize there were so many anti-vaxxers on ED. Awesome. Any flat-earthers here, too?***

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3oKIPE8m8EXTCYEHhS/giphy.gif

Please, for the love GOD, take the vaccine when you have the chance.

BeardoMSU
12-16-2020, 06:17 PM
And stay safe, 99.

Goldendawg
12-16-2020, 06:37 PM
Almost 66 year Middle School teacher with my 83 year old Mother across the the street. Got my sleeve rolled up and ready. God Bless You in the land of fruit and nuts! Get home soon, GTHOM!

msstate7
12-16-2020, 06:58 PM
Will allergic reactions be a major side effect?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/health/covid-pfizer-vaccine-allergic-reaction.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

RocketDawg
12-16-2020, 09:24 PM
option to take the covid vaccine but have opted out would you all take it just trying to get the general consensus of how others feel not media generated responses.
Hail state!

Yes, I'll take it when it's my turn (assuming people aren't falling over dead because of it by then).

To add - I'll take it, but probably be a little nervous about it as well.

RocketDawg
12-16-2020, 09:27 PM
Took flu shot 1 time, and I got the flu... the only time I got the flu in my life. I don't plan to take the flu shot again, and I won't be taking the covid shot.

The flu shot affects people differently, just like Covid appears to. The only flu shot I've ever had any sort of reaction to at all was, I think, the swing flu way back in the 70s, as I recall. This year, my arm got a little more sore than usual, but that may have been because I tensed my muscle more than usual. Or it could have been the content of the vaccine. I never had fever or felt bad though.

RocketDawg
12-16-2020, 09:33 PM
Didn't realize this on allergies. Google search says 50 million Americans have allergies

The only person I've heard of who had an adverse, emergency reaction was the health care worker today (or maybe yesterday) in Juneau, Alaska. She apparently had allergies that she wasn't aware of. They gave her Benadryl that didn't work, but then gave her epinephrine that did the trick. That's why they're having people wait 30 minutes after taking the shot before they're allowed to leave. Pretty sure that all places that give the shots have to have the recovery drugs on hand, just in case.

RocketDawg
12-16-2020, 09:37 PM
I wonder how long the vaccine will last - meaning, how often will we have to take the shot? Some say the antibodies from actually having had Covid only last a few months.

starkvegasdawg
12-16-2020, 10:24 PM
I'm still pissed because all this bullshit we're going through is the fault of the damn cocksucking Chinese communist party. Now whether they created and intentionally released it as a bioweapon or just had shitty security measures in place and it escaped I don't know. But whatever the reason the bastards lied about how serious it was and how it spread and got the WHO to cover for them and now we're arguing over vaccines and had our country damn near destroyed. For that those dickless shitheels can forever kiss my ass. May they all catch the clap.

Fury
12-16-2020, 10:35 PM
Not taking

yjnkdawg
12-16-2020, 11:05 PM
Wish you the best 99. Good health and staying safe over there. My plans are to probably take it when it is available unless something adverse concerning taking the vaccinations between now and then comes out. My big problems now is my mother is in a nursing home, and my dad in an assisted living facility. He had Covid and got over it. I just don't won't to make those calls about getting the vaccinations or not getting the vaccinations, but I probably will have too.

RougeDawg
12-17-2020, 12:09 AM
Please stop confusing science with talk radio.

How about use your thumbs for more than posting ignorance and look the things up for yourself. It?s easy if you try. These article searches took about 3.5 minutes of total searching.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-idUSKBN28K39A

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200407/parasite-drug-shows-early-promise-against-covid-19

https://trialsitenews.com/how-a-grass-roots-health-movement-led-to-acceptance-of-ivermectin-as-a-covid-19-therapy-in-peru/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/article/national/susan-jones/physician-tells-senate-ivermectin-covid-wonder-drug-if-you-take-it-you

https://journal.chestnet.org/article/S0012-3692(20)34898-4/fulltext

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/ivermectin-treat-covid-19-coronavirus-3535912/


For Liverpool. I?m sure official documents won?t change his mind. Can?t change what someone ?hopes and dreams? to be fact.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-10/nov20-handbook-addendum.pdf

Please prove anything I said wrong. I won?t hold my breath. I hold a biochemisty/chemical engineering double major. I would not post something I wasn?t 100% sure of. And I follow science to a T. It?s what pays the bills. Plus any 1-2nd year general biology student should know that a SARS/Covid virus is the simplest of any virus on earth. It?s essentially a cold virus. A pitiful RNA virus. RNA viruses can be killed by the simplest of vitamins. C and D are two. It can be killed by any of the soluble metals. Zinc, Magnesium, silver and copper just to name a few. Lead may also work, but I highly advise against this approach. This virus is to post birth what HIV is to real life, yet this nation has so ignorantly been manipulated by the media into believing its some catastrophe.

Ivermectin was used in South American and other trials. 100% of the persons who took it never caught Covid. 50-53% of those on the other control group did contract the virus.

Please stop confusing that which you want to believe, with that which has data to back it up. And stop replying with ignorance without any ?facts? to refute that which isn?t your unicorn milk beliefs. Covid 19 is play dough, to building a sky scraper of viruses.

Seriously, anyone who is afraid of this virus, I?ve thousands of bridges and some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale. Pretty damn cheap.

Shall I continue? It truly is sad how many sheeple we have in this nation. Lemmings headed toward the cliff.

Edit to add. Please stop falling for the being inside or it’s winter argument for why viruses spread during the winter. Our best defense against these petty viruses is naturally generated Vitamin D. Which requires skin exposure to real sunlight. Funny how the temps drop when the sun moves toward the Southern Hemisphere. So not only do we have less direct sunlight exposure to our skin, we actually cover our skin to stay warm. Hence, less overall natural vitamin d generation. Not rocket surgery here. Simple common sense.

RougeDawg
12-17-2020, 12:20 AM
I'm still pissed because all this bullshit we're going through is the fault of the damn cocksucking Chinese communist party. Now whether they created and intentionally released it as a bioweapon or just had shitty security measures in place and it escaped I don't know. But whatever the reason the bastards lied about how serious it was and how it spread and got the WHO to cover for them and now we're arguing over vaccines and had our country damn near destroyed. For that those dickless shitheels can forever kiss my ass. May they all catch the clap.

Fret not my friend and be safe. Thank you for your service.

My advice is to keep your body vitamin supplies fully stocked with supplements and food. The human body is an amazing machine. It can fight off almost any foreign pathogen, when well supplied and nourished. We would not be here if it couldn?t. We don?t put water in our gas tanks and expect positive outcomes. Give the body what it naturally needs, and it will take care of itself.

Best wishes. Stay positive

ETA. I have a prime example. I had migraines from a little kid until about 5 years ago. No headache medicine would help. Started researching publications from around the world and found a common theme. Magnesium deficiency in males can lead to migraines. Started taking a highly soluble magnesium supplement, and within 4-8 weeks they went away. Knock on wood, haven’t had one sense. My body needed magnesium. Our food doesn’t have it anymore with artificial fertilizers. Organic fertilizers help but aren’t enough. Wanted to add that.

Leeshouldveflanked
12-17-2020, 06:56 AM
I'm still pissed because all this bullshit we're going through is the fault of the damn cocksucking Chinese communist party. Now whether they created and intentionally released it as a bioweapon or just had shitty security measures in place and it escaped I don't know. But whatever the reason the bastards lied about how serious it was and how it spread and got the WHO to cover for them and now we're arguing over vaccines and had our country damn near destroyed. For that those dickless shitheels can forever kiss my ass. May they all catch the clap.

^^^^^This^^^^^ And China is who the upcoming administration is in bed with.

Cooterpoot
12-17-2020, 08:02 AM
I've had a couple family members take the vaccine with no issues to this point. I think you're a fool not to get unless you have allergy issues noted. The Moderna has fewer issues it seems. Funny how the most locked down state is having such a problem with Covid isn't it?

msbulldog
12-17-2020, 08:03 AM
The flu shot affects people differently, just like Covid appears to. The only flu shot I've ever had any sort of reaction to at all was, I think, the swing flu way back in the 70s, as I recall. This year, my arm got a little more sore than usual, but that may have been because I tensed my muscle more than usual. Or it could have been the content of the vaccine. I never had fever or felt bad though.

I didn't take that swine flu vaccine that your referencing, but a friend of mine's dad did got up walked 10' and dropped dead.

Johnson85
12-17-2020, 09:46 AM
Initial trials indicate a 95%+ efficacy. That?s higher efficacy than almost any other vaccine out there.

That's because it's easier to come up with a man-made treatment for a man-made virus.**

dawgoneyall
12-17-2020, 09:50 AM
I've had a couple family members take the vaccine with no issues to this point. I think you're a fool not to get unless you have allergy issues noted. The Moderna has fewer issues it seems. Funny how the most locked down state is having such a problem with Covid isn't it?

Maybe they should vote different.

Johnson85
12-17-2020, 10:20 AM
Didn't realize there were so many anti-vaxxers on ED. Awesome. Any flat-earthers here, too?***

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3oKIPE8m8EXTCYEHhS/giphy.gif

Please, for the love GOD, take the vaccine when you have the chance.

Lots of anti-vaxxers in healthcare too apparently.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/12/14/ucla-survey-nurses-delay-covid-19-vaccine/

SheltonChoked
12-17-2020, 11:13 AM
How about use your thumbs for more than posting ignorance and look the things up for yourself. It?s easy if you try. These article searches took about 3.5 minutes of total searching.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-idUSKBN28K39A

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200407/parasite-drug-shows-early-promise-against-covid-19

https://trialsitenews.com/how-a-grass-roots-health-movement-led-to-acceptance-of-ivermectin-as-a-covid-19-therapy-in-peru/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/article/national/susan-jones/physician-tells-senate-ivermectin-covid-wonder-drug-if-you-take-it-you

https://journal.chestnet.org/article/S0012-3692(20)34898-4/fulltext

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/ivermectin-treat-covid-19-coronavirus-3535912/


For Liverpool. I?m sure official documents won?t change his mind. Can?t change what someone ?hopes and dreams? to be fact.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-10/nov20-handbook-addendum.pdf

Please prove anything I said wrong. I won?t hold my breath. I hold a biochemisty/chemical engineering double major. I would not post something I wasn?t 100% sure of. And I follow science to a T. It?s what pays the bills. Plus any 1-2nd year general biology student should know that a SARS/Covid virus is the simplest of any virus on earth. It?s essentially a cold virus. A pitiful RNA virus. RNA viruses can be killed by the simplest of vitamins. C and D are two. It can be killed by any of the soluble metals. Zinc, Magnesium, silver and copper just to name a few. Lead may also work, but I highly advise against this approach. This virus is to post birth what HIV is to real life, yet this nation has so ignorantly been manipulated by the media into believing its some catastrophe.

Ivermectin was used in South American and other trials. 100% of the persons who took it never caught Covid. 50-53% of those on the other control group did contract the virus.

Please stop confusing that which you want to believe, with that which has data to back it up. And stop replying with ignorance without any ?facts? to refute that which isn?t your unicorn milk beliefs. Covid 19 is play dough, to building a sky scraper of viruses.

Seriously, anyone who is afraid of this virus, I?ve thousands of bridges and some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale. Pretty damn cheap.

Shall I continue? It truly is sad how many sheeple we have in this nation. Lemmings headed toward the cliff.

Edit to add. Please stop falling for the being inside or it?s winter argument for why viruses spread during the winter. Our best defense against these petty viruses is naturally generated Vitamin D. Which requires skin exposure to real sunlight. Funny how the temps drop when the sun moves toward the Southern Hemisphere. So not only do we have less direct sunlight exposure to our skin, we actually cover our skin to stay warm. Hence, less overall natural vitamin d generation. Not rocket surgery here. Simple common sense.

This is what the AMA has posted on their website and not buried on page 18 of the meeting minutes...
https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/covid-19-frequently-asked-questions


3. How do I treat patients with confirmed COVID-19?
People with COVID-19 should receive supportive care to help relieve symptoms either at home or in a clinical setting as symptoms demand. For severe cases, treatment should include care to support vital organ functions.

At present, no drug has been proven to be safe and effective for treating COVID-19. There are no Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved drugs specifically to treat patients with COVID-19.

Some patients with COVID-19 have received intravenous remdesivir, an investigational antiviral drug that was reported to have in-vitro activity against SARS-CoV-2, for compassionate use outside of a clinical trial setting.

As of June 15, the FDA has revoked emergency use authorization of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19.

In the event that an adverse drug event is suspected or observed from any medication used to prevent or treat COVID-19, we urge health care providers to submit a report to FDA MedWatch. COVID-19 or coronavirus should be referenced in the report to the FDA.

Read the NIH Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Treatment Guidelines.

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/


In the earliest stages of infection, before the host has mounted an effective immune response, anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibody-based therapies may have their greatest likelihood of having an effect. In this regard, although there are insufficient data from clinical trials to recommend either for or against the use of any specific therapy in this setting, preliminary data suggests that outpatients may benefit from receiving anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies early in the course of infection. The anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies bamlanivimab and casirivimab plus imdevimab are available through Emergency Use Authorizations for outpatients who are at high risk for disease progression.

Remdesivir, an antiviral agent, is currently the only drug that is approved by the Food and Drug Administration for the treatment of COVID-19. It is recommended for use in hospitalized patients who require supplemental oxygen. However, it is not routinely recommended for patients who require mechanical ventilation due to the lack of data showing benefit at this advanced stage of the disease.1-4

Dexamethasone, a corticosteroid, has been found to improve survival in hospitalized patients who require supplemental oxygen, with the greatest effect observed in patients who require mechanical ventilation. Therefore, the use of dexamethasone is strongly recommended in this setting.5-8

You would think the NIH would have grasped 2nd year biology by now.

PS links for Vitamin C, D and Zinc Treatments.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/adjunctive-therapy/vitamin-c/

There are insufficient data for the COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel (the Panel) to recommend either for or against the use of vitamin C for the treatment of COVID-19 in non-critically ill patients.

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/adjunctive-therapy/vitamin-d/


There are insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of vitamin D for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.


https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/adjunctive-therapy/zinc/


Recommendations
There are insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of zinc for the treatment of COVID-19.
The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel (the Panel) recommends against using zinc supplementation above the recommended dietary allowance for the prevention of COVID-19, except in a clinical trial (BIII).

Mobile Bay
12-17-2020, 11:40 AM
How about use your thumbs for more than posting ignorance and look the things up for yourself. It?s easy if you try. These article searches took about 3.5 minutes of total searching.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-idUSKBN28K39A

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200407/parasite-drug-shows-early-promise-against-covid-19

https://trialsitenews.com/how-a-grass-roots-health-movement-led-to-acceptance-of-ivermectin-as-a-covid-19-therapy-in-peru/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/article/national/susan-jones/physician-tells-senate-ivermectin-covid-wonder-drug-if-you-take-it-you

https://journal.chestnet.org/article/S0012-3692(20)34898-4/fulltext

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/ivermectin-treat-covid-19-coronavirus-3535912/


For Liverpool. I?m sure official documents won?t change his mind. Can?t change what someone ?hopes and dreams? to be fact.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-10/nov20-handbook-addendum.pdf

Please prove anything I said wrong. I won?t hold my breath. I hold a biochemisty/chemical engineering double major. I would not post something I wasn?t 100% sure of. And I follow science to a T. It?s what pays the bills. Plus any 1-2nd year general biology student should know that a SARS/Covid virus is the simplest of any virus on earth. It?s essentially a cold virus. A pitiful RNA virus. RNA viruses can be killed by the simplest of vitamins. C and D are two. It can be killed by any of the soluble metals. Zinc, Magnesium, silver and copper just to name a few. Lead may also work, but I highly advise against this approach. This virus is to post birth what HIV is to real life, yet this nation has so ignorantly been manipulated by the media into believing its some catastrophe.

Ivermectin was used in South American and other trials. 100% of the persons who took it never caught Covid. 50-53% of those on the other control group did contract the virus.

Please stop confusing that which you want to believe, with that which has data to back it up. And stop replying with ignorance without any ?facts? to refute that which isn?t your unicorn milk beliefs. Covid 19 is play dough, to building a sky scraper of viruses.

Seriously, anyone who is afraid of this virus, I?ve thousands of bridges and some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale. Pretty damn cheap.

Shall I continue? It truly is sad how many sheeple we have in this nation. Lemmings headed toward the cliff.

Edit to add. Please stop falling for the being inside or it’s winter argument for why viruses spread during the winter. Our best defense against these petty viruses is naturally generated Vitamin D. Which requires skin exposure to real sunlight. Funny how the temps drop when the sun moves toward the Southern Hemisphere. So not only do we have less direct sunlight exposure to our skin, we actually cover our skin to stay warm. Hence, less overall natural vitamin d generation. Not rocket surgery here. Simple common sense.

Claims to follow the science, then posts articles that are not scientific

Source 1. The Australian vaccine is a different vaccine and was halted because it has problems.

Source 2. WebMD It says I have a hangnail or cancer.

Source 3. Ahh, anecdotes from the scientific mecca of Peru. Published by a website that I can find not much on there that isn't sensationalized.

Source 4. CNS News? Like I said, stop getting your science from talk radio.

The remaining ones discuss ongoing trials.



And then wonders why I doubt he has the same Chemical Engineering degree I do.

Mobile Bay
12-17-2020, 11:43 AM
I wonder how long the vaccine will last - meaning, how often will we have to take the shot? Some say the antibodies from actually having had Covid only last a few months.

The antibodies won't really matter. The T cells will remember how to make them and that is enough to protect most people.

My fear is that it appears to be mutating rapidly and we may be in for taking it every year, like the flu shot.

Mobile Bay
12-17-2020, 11:45 AM
^^^^^This^^^^^ And China is who the upcoming administration is in bed with.

I think you mean owned by. Hell, the whole Democrat party is on the take from China. Going all the way back to when Clinton gave them nuclear weapons files so they could build better ones for themselves.

Doug McAuthur was right.

Liverpooldawg
12-17-2020, 12:11 PM
How about use your thumbs for more than posting ignorance and look the things up for yourself. It?s easy if you try. These article searches took about 3.5 minutes of total searching.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-idUSKBN28K39A

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200407/parasite-drug-shows-early-promise-against-covid-19

https://trialsitenews.com/how-a-grass-roots-health-movement-led-to-acceptance-of-ivermectin-as-a-covid-19-therapy-in-peru/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/article/national/susan-jones/physician-tells-senate-ivermectin-covid-wonder-drug-if-you-take-it-you

https://journal.chestnet.org/article/S0012-3692(20)34898-4/fulltext

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/ivermectin-treat-covid-19-coronavirus-3535912/


For Liverpool. I?m sure official documents won?t change his mind. Can?t change what someone ?hopes and dreams? to be fact.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-10/nov20-handbook-addendum.pdf

Please prove anything I said wrong. I won?t hold my breath. I hold a biochemisty/chemical engineering double major. I would not post something I wasn?t 100% sure of. And I follow science to a T. It?s what pays the bills. Plus any 1-2nd year general biology student should know that a SARS/Covid virus is the simplest of any virus on earth. It?s essentially a cold virus. A pitiful RNA virus. RNA viruses can be killed by the simplest of vitamins. C and D are two. It can be killed by any of the soluble metals. Zinc, Magnesium, silver and copper just to name a few. Lead may also work, but I highly advise against this approach. This virus is to post birth what HIV is to real life, yet this nation has so ignorantly been manipulated by the media into believing its some catastrophe.

Ivermectin was used in South American and other trials. 100% of the persons who took it never caught Covid. 50-53% of those on the other control group did contract the virus.

Please stop confusing that which you want to believe, with that which has data to back it up. And stop replying with ignorance without any ?facts? to refute that which isn?t your unicorn milk beliefs. Covid 19 is play dough, to building a sky scraper of viruses.

Seriously, anyone who is afraid of this virus, I?ve thousands of bridges and some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale. Pretty damn cheap.

Shall I continue? It truly is sad how many sheeple we have in this nation. Lemmings headed toward the cliff.

Edit to add. Please stop falling for the being inside or it?s winter argument for why viruses spread during the winter. Our best defense against these petty viruses is naturally generated Vitamin D. Which requires skin exposure to real sunlight. Funny how the temps drop when the sun moves toward the Southern Hemisphere. So not only do we have less direct sunlight exposure to our skin, we actually cover our skin to stay warm. Hence, less overall natural vitamin d generation. Not rocket surgery here. Simple common sense.

You do know what off label use is don't you? You do know what in virtro means don't you? I take it you don't. Also, the AMA plays no part in approving medicines. I still haven't seen anything reliable reporting it. You seem to have embraced every crackpot scheme and idea out there. No wonder we can't get a handle on this thing. You are still linking articles from APRIL. LOL.

Liverpooldawg
12-17-2020, 12:18 PM
The antibodies won't really matter. The T cells will remember how to make them and that is enough to protect most people.

My fear is that it appears to be mutating rapidly and we may be in for taking it every year, like the flu shot.

That's almost a given.

Turfdawg67
12-17-2020, 12:25 PM
^^^^^This^^^^^ And China is who the upcoming administration is in bed with.


I think you mean owned by. Hell, the whole Democrat party is on the take from China. Going all the way back to when Clinton gave them nuclear weapons files so they could build better ones for themselves.

Doug McAuthur was right.

I mean how many times does ScoobaDawg have to tell y'all? Wouldn't miss you two at all if he bans your asses.

Liverpooldawg
12-17-2020, 12:32 PM
Will allergic reactions be a major side effect?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/health/covid-pfizer-vaccine-allergic-reaction.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

If you don't want to take anything that produces allergic reactions you are going to die a slow death. You won't be able to eat anything at all.

Dawgtini
12-17-2020, 12:59 PM
Nope 👎

DownwardDawg
12-17-2020, 02:32 PM
Lots of anti-vaxxers in healthcare too apparently.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/12/14/ucla-survey-nurses-delay-covid-19-vaccine/

My wife has been a nurse over 20 years. She's a pro mask, social distance, and hand wash warrior. Her job is horrible these days due to covid. She says Hail No to taking vaccine.

dawgday166
12-17-2020, 02:32 PM
You might as well insist on Leeches and bloodletting.

At least it would be my choice ... not some doctor's whose financial interests lies with the drug he's promoting.

Got someone who works for me that got Covid. About 70 years old. Developed pneumonia week and half ago on Monday 12/7. Doctor prescribed a protocol that included Fauci's "promising" drug Remdesivir ($1000/dose). He went into ICU on Wednesday and is still there on ventilator fighting for his life (9 days). So much for "science".

I'll take the leeches and bloodletting. Those other doctors that promote the protocol I said I would take, are doctors too. However, they ain't getting any kickbacks or/and are financially invested in that protocol tho. Forrest for the trees Lieutenant, forest for the trees.

Dognabbit
12-17-2020, 03:47 PM
Yes. Hopefully early next week.

fishwater99
12-17-2020, 04:10 PM
How about use your thumbs for more than posting ignorance and look the things up for yourself. It?s easy if you try. These article searches took about 3.5 minutes of total searching.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-idUSKBN28K39A

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200407/parasite-drug-shows-early-promise-against-covid-19

https://trialsitenews.com/how-a-grass-roots-health-movement-led-to-acceptance-of-ivermectin-as-a-covid-19-therapy-in-peru/

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/article/national/susan-jones/physician-tells-senate-ivermectin-covid-wonder-drug-if-you-take-it-you

https://journal.chestnet.org/article/S0012-3692(20)34898-4/fulltext

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/ivermectin-treat-covid-19-coronavirus-3535912/


For Liverpool. I?m sure official documents won?t change his mind. Can?t change what someone ?hopes and dreams? to be fact.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-10/nov20-handbook-addendum.pdf

Please prove anything I said wrong. I won?t hold my breath. I hold a biochemisty/chemical engineering double major. I would not post something I wasn?t 100% sure of. And I follow science to a T. It?s what pays the bills. Plus any 1-2nd year general biology student should know that a SARS/Covid virus is the simplest of any virus on earth. It?s essentially a cold virus. A pitiful RNA virus. RNA viruses can be killed by the simplest of vitamins. C and D are two. It can be killed by any of the soluble metals. Zinc, Magnesium, silver and copper just to name a few. Lead may also work, but I highly advise against this approach. This virus is to post birth what HIV is to real life, yet this nation has so ignorantly been manipulated by the media into believing its some catastrophe.

Ivermectin was used in South American and other trials. 100% of the persons who took it never caught Covid. 50-53% of those on the other control group did contract the virus.

Please stop confusing that which you want to believe, with that which has data to back it up. And stop replying with ignorance without any ?facts? to refute that which isn?t your unicorn milk beliefs. Covid 19 is play dough, to building a sky scraper of viruses.

Seriously, anyone who is afraid of this virus, I?ve thousands of bridges and some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale. Pretty damn cheap.

Shall I continue? It truly is sad how many sheeple we have in this nation. Lemmings headed toward the cliff.

Edit to add. Please stop falling for the being inside or it?s winter argument for why viruses spread during the winter. Our best defense against these petty viruses is naturally generated Vitamin D. Which requires skin exposure to real sunlight. Funny how the temps drop when the sun moves toward the Southern Hemisphere. So not only do we have less direct sunlight exposure to our skin, we actually cover our skin to stay warm. Hence, less overall natural vitamin d generation. Not rocket surgery here. Simple common sense.

So you are saying not to take the vaccine ?

Hot Rock
12-17-2020, 04:18 PM
I will get it...

Cooterpoot
12-17-2020, 04:38 PM
Look, if you have allergic reactions to eggs, nuts, shell fish, etc. have your epi pen with you. Otherwise, don't worry about it. Your dick won't fall off but it might shrink.

99jc
12-17-2020, 06:13 PM
UPDATE! I am in a living Hell......just went by ST. Marys medical center in apple valley....this is 17'd up tents outside people with no hospital beds. Morgue trucks lined up... I wanna go home. you all be safe and hail state!

fishwater99
12-17-2020, 06:53 PM
UPDATE! I am in a living Hell......just went by ST. Marys medical center in apple valley....this is 17'd up tents outside people with no hospital beds. Morgue trucks lined up... I wanna go home. you all be safe and hail state!

Just looked it up. nuts..

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/hot-spot-california-hospitals-buckle-virus-cases-surge-74787347

RocketDawg
12-17-2020, 09:05 PM
UPDATE! I am in a living Hell......just went by ST. Marys medical center in apple valley....this is 17'd up tents outside people with no hospital beds. Morgue trucks lined up... I wanna go home. you all be safe and hail state!

Isn't Apple Valley out in the desert near Mojave and Lancaster? I've spent a lot of time in that area over the years. The situation sounds terrible.

Liverpooldawg
12-17-2020, 09:31 PM
UPDATE! I am in a living Hell......just went by ST. Marys medical center in apple valley....this is 17'd up tents outside people with no hospital beds. Morgue trucks lined up... I wanna go home. you all be safe and hail state!

We are about 3-4 weeks away from that in Mississippi if it doesn't turn around. For the first time in the mess I'm really scared about where we are headed here. Christmas is going to send us over into the abyss.

RocketDawg
12-17-2020, 09:37 PM
We are about 3-4 weeks away from that in Mississippi if it doesn't turn around. For the first time in the mess I'm really scared about where we are headed here. Christmas is going to send us over into the abyss.

It is indeed unless people use common sense, and most won't. Thanksgiving was bad enough, but Christmas (along with New Year's celebrations) will be much worse.

Lance Harbor
12-17-2020, 09:39 PM
If you don't want the vaccine, I'll take it for you. If all the medical professionals die from taking it, then you will know that it was a mistake.


option to take the covid vaccine but have opted out would you all take it just trying to get the general consensus of how others feel not media generated responses.
Hail state!

Dawg2003
12-17-2020, 09:43 PM
We are about 3-4 weeks away from that in Mississippi if it doesn't turn around. For the first time in the mess I'm really scared about where we are headed here. Christmas is going to send us over into the abyss.

That's my fear. We were pushed to the brink this past summer, and the numbers have been worse and sustained for the past few weeks. The best thing to do right now is to stay away from people and stay away from the hospital if possible.

Joebob
12-17-2020, 10:32 PM
At least it would be my choice ... not some doctor's whose financial interests lies with the drug he's promoting.

Got someone who works for me that got Covid. About 70 years old. Developed pneumonia week and half ago on Monday 12/7. Doctor prescribed a protocol that included Fauci's "promising" drug Remdesivir ($1000/dose). He went into ICU on Wednesday and is still there on ventilator fighting for his life (9 days). So much for "science".

I'll take the leeches and bloodletting. Those other doctors that promote the protocol I said I would take, are doctors too. However, they ain't getting any kickbacks or/and are financially invested in that protocol tho. Forrest for the trees Lieutenant, forest for the trees.

How the hell do you know that doctors that administer Remdesivir are promoting it? You don't, and the overwhelming majority of them aren't.

Even your boy Trump took Remdesivir.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pharmacy/8-drugs-trump-has-been-given-for-his-covid-19-treatment.html

TUSK
12-17-2020, 10:51 PM
Can one catch the ChinamanVirus from a Weed Patch, Trailer House, or a Meth Lab??? (Asking for a "friend")....

Seriously, I hope that all you cats and yourn are ok... I'm fortunate that I'm somewhat reclusive and live in a low pop density area...

Peace Out!

BeardoMSU
12-17-2020, 11:29 PM
We are about 3-4 weeks away from that in Mississippi if it doesn't turn around. For the first time in the mess I'm really scared about where we are headed here. Christmas is going to send us over into the abyss.

Jesus, man. That reality is terrifying. I'm not sure what it will take for people to wise up, as if the 3600 deaths today were meaningless, but something has got to give.

Liverpooldawg
12-18-2020, 12:15 AM
Jesus, man. That reality is terrifying. I'm not sure what it will take for people to wise up, as if the 3600 deaths today were meaningless, but something has got to give.

The update from today from the MSDH said we have 89 vacant ICU beds statewide. That is just scary as hell, esp since we banned non-emergent procedures this past Sunday. That should have led to more open ICU beds, it didn't.

msbulldog
12-18-2020, 05:45 AM
UPDATE! I am in a living Hell......just went by ST. Marys medical center in apple valley....this is 17'd up tents outside people with no hospital beds. Morgue trucks lined up... I wanna go home. you all be safe and hail state!

Be safe as you can 99!

Schultzy
12-18-2020, 07:37 AM
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/12/14/shocking-report-on-covid-vaccine-adverse-effects-the-roll-out-continues-anyway/


“The MHRA [UK Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency] advice states: ‘Any person with a history of a significant allergic reaction to a vaccine, medicine or food (such as previous history of anaphylactoid reaction or those who have been advised to carry an adrenaline autoinjector) should not receive the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine. Resuscitation facilities should be available at all times for all vaccinations. Vaccination should only be carried out in facilities where resuscitation measures are available’.”

Cooterpoot
12-18-2020, 08:26 AM
I'm well past double digit family and friends who've gotten the vaccine and none have had issues with it. All work in hospitals though and crash carts were near by.

Mobile Bay
12-18-2020, 08:29 AM
At least it would be my choice ... not some doctor's whose financial interests lies with the drug he's promoting.

Got someone who works for me that got Covid. About 70 years old. Developed pneumonia week and half ago on Monday 12/7. Doctor prescribed a protocol that included Fauci's "promising" drug Remdesivir ($1000/dose). He went into ICU on Wednesday and is still there on ventilator fighting for his life (9 days). So much for "science".

I'll take the leeches and bloodletting. Those other doctors that promote the protocol I said I would take, are doctors too. However, they ain't getting any kickbacks or/and are financially invested in that protocol tho. Forrest for the trees Lieutenant, forest for the trees.

Next you will be telling us a tin foil hat stops the COVID.

Mobile Bay
12-18-2020, 08:31 AM
Can one catch the ChinamanVirus from a Weed Patch, Trailer House, or a Meth Lab??? (Asking for a "friend")....

Seriously, I hope that all you cats and yourn are ok... I'm fortunate that I'm somewhat reclusive and live in a low pop density area...

Peace Out!

I would be willing to try out the safety factor of a weed patch.

Wish I could find one.