2022 MSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING Discussion Thread

[Westdawg]

Might as well get this one going. From what Emerick was saying on twitter tonight, sounds like the staff already has got commits for that class. So here goes the fun ....

[Westdawg]

Enyce Sledge -- big DT out of Monroe, LA.
I actually saw him post under Emerick's twitter post tonight. Kid faced a LOT of double teams in his video, and he more than held his own and then some. Needs some technique work, but dang, he's a freakin' bull!
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/13963866/5f7d2ee032ddeb0ee847cf7d

[Westdawg]

Another major DT, this time from Columbia, Mississippi
Jaheim Oatis. What a beast.
You've probably seen this short video of him that circulated twitter this fall, and I honestly had no idea this is who it was:
https://twitter.com/jaheimoatis/status/1307304153237118976?s=21
I can't find updated video of this season, but his stats are crazy. Got one buddy that coached against him, and he said "a freak....just a monster in the middle that haunts you all week long trying to prep for him".
Will be hard to fight off Bama and LSU.
ETA:
I did find this one video of him. He apparently also is the kicker for KOs. And he straight de-cleated this poor returner 😳😳😳😳😳👀👀👀

Follow the link above to his twitter page, it's the post right above the one linked. Funny stuff

[Westdawg]

State target #1 -
Khamauri Rogers - CB

I know he's been an LSU fan his whole life, but you need to work the recruiting to the end with this kid. He's as good of a cant miss CB as there is.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/11023161/5fb0370b4bb308108811a313

[Westdawg]

My personal #1 target is

Zxavian Harris - DT
Germantown HS
Madison, MS

He's 6'8" 330 lbs
I'll let his film tell the tale

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/11541064/5fce87d815f62d09a8e8e417

He's the NT that this defense needs. And he's quick enough and long enough to slide him to DE at times and really wreck a place up.

[Hambone]

https://twitter.com/kota_1k/status/1337462179960926210?s=21

[BrunswickDawg]

https://twitter.com/kota_1k/status/1337462179960926210?s=21


We seem to do well in football and baseball with guys named Dakota

[Cooterpoot]

My personal #1 target is

Zxavian Harris - DT
Germantown HS
Madison, MS

He's 6'8" 330 lbs
I'll let his film tell the tale

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/11541064/5fce87d815f62d09a8e8e417

He's the NT that this defense needs. And he's quick enough and long enough to slide him to DE at times and really wreck a place up.

This^^^

[HailStateSZN19]

This^^^

Getting John Lewis has to help with Harris being from G’town right?

[ShotgunDawg]

Getting John Lewis has to help with Harris being from G’town right?

yes, it means the line of thinking at G-Town is correct when it comes to defensive players.

[Westdawg]

huge OT prospect:

Kiyaunta Goodwin 6'8" 305 lbs
- ain't no bad weight on this cat.
Adidas All American

https://twitter.com/k_goodwin2022/status/1337079300672139264?s=21
That's some serious speed and footwork 👀

[defiantdog]

huge OT prospect:

Kiyaunta Goodwin 6'8" 305 lbs
- ain't no bad weight on this cat.
Adidas All American

https://twitter.com/k_goodwin2022/status/1337079300672139264?s=21
That's some serious speed and footwork 👀
Is this a wish list? Dude is Ohio State bound.

[Westdawg]

Is this a wish list? Dude is Ohio State bound.

Not a wish list.

This a WAYYYYY EARLY lost of guys that members of the staff are looking at/following/talking to/offered.
I know we are all but out of the picture for this guy, but it's not bad to see what the best is so that you can judge what's out there.

[Westdawg]

3 ⭐️ Safety prospect that seems high on us

Jaydon Hodge 6' 170 lbs

https://247sports.com/player/jaydon-hodge-46096701/

[defiantdog]

Not a wish list.

This a WAYYYYY EARLY lost of guys that members of the staff are looking at/following/talking to/offered.
I know we are all but out of the picture for this guy, but it's not bad to see what the best is so that you can judge what's out there.

Gotcha..... I hope we go after Jamerrien Burt out of Ocala, FL. Dude can fly and looks to be a shutdown CB.

[Westdawg]

Big OT target, and is a teammate of 2020 OT signee Canon Boone.

PATRICK WILLIAMS - 4 ⭐️ OT/LT 6'4"

https://www.hudl.com/profile/11720124

[StarkVegasSteve]

So who's gonna be OM's flipmas candidates for next December? I wish I was kidding.

[Dawgology]

We will get whomever Ole Miss, LSU, or Bama doesn’t want. Our Cigarillo Chumps are on top of it.

[ShotgunDawg]

So who's gonna be OM's flipmas candidates for next December? I wish I was kidding.

I'm sure they'll let us know soon

[BeardoMSU]

We're playing checkers, while everyone else are playing chess. Seriously. As I've said a thousand times, nothing against Bracky as a person, but he should not be in that position. This is an institutional/cultural problem systemic at MSU. Every other school that's serious about playing football seriously have guys in that position who've previously worked in the area of NCAA compliance (many actually for the NCAA...literally/flipped double-agents). We're literally tying our hands behind our back while we slowly shuffle to a fist-fight with our socks and sandals. We are literally perpetuating ourselves in underachieving. It boggles the mind.

[KOdawg1]

My personal #1 target is

Zxavian Harris - DT
Germantown HS
Madison, MS

He's 6'8" 330 lbs
I'll let his film tell the tale

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/11541064/5fce87d815f62d09a8e8e417

He's the NT that this defense needs. And he's quick enough and long enough to slide him to DE at times and really wreck a place up.

This is who we pretty much have to have. We got his teammate in John Lewis. Gotta land him

[KOdawg1]

Here's who I would consider early targets that MSU has a good shot with AS OF NOW:

Stone Blanton (https://247sports.com/player/stone-blanton-46098545/) - 4 star MLB from MRA. He's also a baseball commit to us, but he's receiving national interest from the likes of Clemson, so we're going to have to fight to get him here. Grew up a State fan and wants to play baseball here, so we've got as good of a shot as any.

JD Stewart (https://247sports.com/player/jd-stewart-46101483/) - 3 star OLB from Greenwood. Very good player who has consistently named State as his leader. We've had good success with kids from Greenwood and the delta.

Donterry Russell (https://247sports.com/player/donterry-russell-46103272/) - 3 star DE/Edge from Provine. Younger brother of Demonte Russell. Built just like Demonte. Gonna be a good one. We have a great shot with him.

Marquez Dortch (https://247sports.com/player/marquez-dortch-46103906/) - 4 star CB from George County. Ole Miss probably has the edge with him now that MJ flipped. But, never say never I guess.

Zxavian Harris (https://247sports.com/player/zxavian-harris-46085727/) - 4 star DT from Germantown. Like I said earlier, this is a dude we pretty much have to get. With the lack of in-state DL in the state this year, we've got to make up for it next year with a guy like him. He seems to like State so far, but man, we'll have to fight the big boys off for him.

Shazz Preston (https://247sports.com/player/shazz-preston-46078814/) - 4 star WR from St. James, LA. Younger brother of Shawn Preston. I think LSU gets him if they want him, because like we saw with Malik Nabers today, if LSU wants a Louisiana kid, 9 times out of 10, they're gonna get that kid. But you never know with a sibling on the team.

Larry Simmons (https://247sports.com/player/larry-simmons-46101006/) - 4 star WR from Moss Point. Still very early with him. I know Ole Miss is after him hard. If we some how land him early, here's your annual flip candidate. Looks to be the early frontrunner for the best WR in the state.

Bryson Hurst (https://247sports.com/player/bryson-hurst-46102114/) - 4 star OT from Gautier. Best OL in Mississippi so far. Ole Miss is also on him. With the air raid, it's going to be tough to recruit high quality OL, because other schools negatively recruit by saying it doesn't prepare you well for the next level. We'll be in the mix, but still too early

Jaydon Hodge (https://247sports.com/player/jaydon-hodge-46096701/) - 3 star S from Ocala, FL. Thanks to Jamar Chaney, we probably lead for this guy. Good player with good offers early on. Hope we stay on him.

Jacoby Matthews (https://247sports.com/player/jacoby-mathews-46082680/) - 4 star S from Ponchatoula, LA. He's consistently talked well of State and included them in lists and such, but again, wouldn't get my hopes up with him being a highly touted Louisiana kid. Eff those coon asses.

Khamauri Rogers (https://247sports.com/player/khamauri-rogers-46081427/) - 4 star CB from Holmes County. Currently an LSU commit, but he's fallen down the rankings over the last few months, so I'm not sure if he sticks with them or not. We just signed his teammate in Corey Ellington so hopefully that helps. Holmes County Central is a very pro MSU school.

James Monds III (https://247sports.com/player/james-monds-iii-46099629/) - 3 star CB from Fort Pierce, FL. We're on this kid pretty hard and he seems to be returning the love. Always tweets positive stuff about MSU. I believe he even made the trip up to Starkville for the game this past Saturday. Hopefully, Jamar Chaney can close the deal on this guy too.

Kailep Edwards (https://247sports.com/player/kailep-edwards-46085819/) - 3 star MLB from Edgard, LA. We seem to lead for this guy early. I don't think he's good enough for LSU to take him, but he seems solid. We should bring in a nice haul of LBs next year.

RJ Moss (https://247sports.com/player/r-j-moss-46103675/) - 3 star DE from Biloxi. Received offers from the instate schools but has remained quiet since. Probably a wait and see guy at this point, but we should have a decent shot if we push.

[Dawgology]

Here's who I would consider early targets that MSU has a good shot with AS OF NOW:

Stone Blanton (https://247sports.com/player/stone-blanton-46098545/) - 4 star MLB from MRA. He's also a baseball commit to us, but he's receiving national interest from the likes of Clemson, so we're going to have to fight to get him here. Grew up a State fan and wants to play baseball here, so we've got as good of a shot as any. (He will go to Clemson or Bama...possibly Ole Miss)

JD Stewart (https://247sports.com/player/jd-stewart-46101483/) - 3 star OLB from Greenwood. Very good player who has consistently named State as his leader. We've had good success with kids from Greenwood and the delta. (He will go to State)

Donterry Russell (https://247sports.com/player/donterry-russell-46103272/) - 3 star DE/Edge from Provine. Younger brother of Demonte Russell. Built just like Demonte. Gonna be a good one. We have a great shot with him. (MSU has a good shot)

Marquez Dortch (https://247sports.com/player/marquez-dortch-46103906/) - 4 star CB from George County. Ole Miss probably has the edge with him now that MJ flipped. But, never say never I guess. (Ole Miss bound)

Zxavian Harris (https://247sports.com/player/zxavian-harris-46085727/) - 4 star DT from Germantown. Like I said earlier, this is a dude we pretty much have to get. With the lack of in-state DL in the state this year, we've got to make up for it next year with a guy like him. He seems to like State so far, but man, we'll have to fight the big boys off for him. (Ole Miss bound)

Shazz Preston (https://247sports.com/player/shazz-preston-46078814/) - 4 star WR from St. James, LA. Younger brother of Shawn Preston. I think LSU gets him if they want him, because like we saw with Malik Nabers today, if LSU wants a Louisiana kid, 9 times out of 10, they're gonna get that kid. But you never know with a sibling on the team. (LSU bound)

Larry Simmons (https://247sports.com/player/larry-simmons-46101006/) - 4 star WR from Moss Point. Still very early with him. I know Ole Miss is after him hard. If we some how land him early, here's your annual flip candidate. Looks to be the early frontrunner for the best WR in the state. (Ole Miss bound)

Bryson Hurst (https://247sports.com/player/bryson-hurst-46102114/) - 4 star OT from Gautier. Best OL in Mississippi so far. Ole Miss is also on him. With the air raid, it's going to be tough to recruit high quality OL, because other schools negatively recruit by saying it doesn't prepare you well for the next level. We'll be in the mix, but still too early (Ole Miss bound)

Jaydon Hodge (https://247sports.com/player/jaydon-hodge-46096701/) - 3 star S from Ocala, FL. Thanks to Jamar Chaney, we probably lead for this guy. Good player with good offers early on. Hope we stay on him. (MSU option)

Jacoby Matthews (https://247sports.com/player/jacoby-mathews-46082680/) - 4 star S from Ponchatoula, LA. He's consistently talked well of State and included them in lists and such, but again, wouldn't get my hopes up with him being a highly touted Louisiana kid. Eff those coon asses. (LSU bound)

Khamauri Rogers (https://247sports.com/player/khamauri-rogers-46081427/) - 4 star CB from Holmes County. Currently an LSU commit, but he's fallen down the rankings over the last few months, so I'm not sure if he sticks with them or not. We just signed his teammate in Corey Ellington so hopefully that helps. Holmes County Central is a very pro MSU school. (LSU bound but Ole Miss if LSU drops him)

James Monds III (https://247sports.com/player/james-monds-iii-46099629/) - 3 star CB from Fort Pierce, FL. We're on this kid pretty hard and he seems to be returning the love. Always tweets positive stuff about MSU. I believe he even made the trip up to Starkville for the game this past Saturday. Hopefully, Jamar Chaney can close the deal on this guy too. (MSU bound unless Florida comes calling - and I think they do)

Kailep Edwards (https://247sports.com/player/kailep-edwards-46085819/) - 3 star MLB from Edgard, LA. We seem to lead for this guy early. I don't think he's good enough for LSU to take him, but he seems solid. We should bring in a nice haul of LBs next year. (LSU bound unless they pass)

RJ Moss (https://247sports.com/player/r-j-moss-46103675/) - 3 star DE from Biloxi. Received offers from the instate schools but has remained quiet since. Probably a wait and see guy at this point, but we should have a decent shot if we push. (MIGHT get him but probably headed to JSU)

It’s depressing to think about but we simply won’t win a head to head battle for any player that LSU, Ole Miss, or Bama really wants. We don’t have the network or recruiters to do it. Our administration is fine with that. Handle it like baseball recruiting you know.

[Bdawg]

I'm just going to go on the record and say we get all of who everybody doesn't really want, 1/2 of who everybody kinda wants, and none who everybody really wants.

[KOdawg1]

Can we get a mod to sticky this to the top for us?

[defiantdog]

I'm just going to go on the record and say we get all of who everybody doesn't really want, 1/2 of who everybody kinda wants, and none who everybody really wants.

Simmons and C Jones say hi

[Offshore Dawg]

Comited until they get a better offer ??????

[Hambone]

Pickering, Charles Cross, Dollar Bill, Malik Heath, Javonta Peyton

Yes, yesterday sucked on the flip front but it’s not like we haven’t recruited and signed guys that those teams wanted.

[R2Dawg]

Simmons and C Jones say hi

Fletcher Cox too. Bama really wanted him. But to posters point, our stock is falling like a rock now. Jones and Simmons seems like a 10 years ago.

[Westdawg]

Alright, if one of you on here really does have an "in" with the recruiting staff, please pass this kid along.....

Hunter Erb--- OT 6'7 305
Eaton HS
Hadley, TX

I've been watching this kid all junior season long. Linking to his Twitter account of a post that is funny for you OL guys.

https://twitter.com/hunter_erb66/status/1339985507225378816?s=21

Follow the link on his profile for HUDL. If you scan through his twitter, you'll find lots of videos of camps this summer, workouts, games, etc. big smart strong and nasty....exactly what you want for this OL

[Cowbell]

Simmons and C Jones say hi

You are talking 2/200 if you are doing to go back that far. They are the 1%. Bring some stronger evidence.

[Bdawg]

Simmons and C Jones say hi

Always a few exceptions. But that's generally how it goes for us it seems. Im just still miffed. Let me vent a little.

[Bdawg]

Alright, if one of you on here really does have an "in" with the recruiting staff, please pass this kid along.....

Hunter Erb--- OT 6'7 305
Eaton HS
Hadley, TX

I've been watching this kid all junior season long. Linking to his Twitter account of a post that is funny for you OL guys.

https://twitter.com/hunter_erb66/status/1339985507225378816?s=21

Follow the link on his profile for HUDL. If you scan through his twitter, you'll find lots of videos of camps this summer, workouts, games, etc. big smart strong and nasty....exactly what you want for this OL

Love how he doesn't quit till the whistle or until his man is on the ground. And then he goes looking for seconds!!

[Westdawg]

Big DE target
Quincy Wiggins 6'7 265

Whew, what a big, fast, long kid!

https://twitter.com/quencywiggins/status/1331043148076814336?s=21

[KOdawg1]

KOdawg1's super early 2022 big board:

QB:

Cade Klubnik (https://247sports.com/player/cade-klubnik-46056879/) - Austin, TX

Tanner Bailey (https://247sports.com/player/tanner-bailey-46081988/) - Gordo, AL

Nicco Marchiol (https://247sports.com/player/nicco-marchiol-46084789/) - Chandler, AZ

Deandre Smith (https://247sports.com/player/deandre-smith-46085227/) - Greenwood, MS


RB:

Branson Robinson (https://247sports.com/player/branson-robinson-46099865/) - Germantown, MS

TreVonte' Citizen (https://247sports.com/player/trevonte-citizen-46085807/) - Lake Charles, LA

Omar Johnson (https://247sports.com/player/omar-johnson-46108910/) - Columbia, MS

Dakota Jordan (https://247sports.com/player/dakota-jordan-46101489/) - Canton, MS (committed)

Kenyon Clay (https://247sports.com/player/kenyon-clay-46082700/) - Union, MS


WR:

Shazz Preston (https://247sports.com/player/shazz-preston-46078814/) - St. James, LA

Larry Simmons (https://247sports.com/player/larry-simmons-46101006/) - Moss Point, MS

Davis Dalton (https://247sports.com/player/davis-dalton-46109974/) - Madison, MS

Amorion Walker (https://247sports.com/player/amorion-walker-46101297/) - Ponchatoula, LA

Cameron Miller (https://247sports.com/player/cameron-miller-46085780/) - Memphis, TN

Leroy Paige (https://247sports.com/player/leroy-paige-46098876/) - New Orleans, LA

Janaylon Dupree (https://247sports.com/player/janaylon-dupree-46110045/) - Philadelphia, MS

O'Ryan James (https://247sports.com/player/oryan-james-46101246/) - Houma, LA


OL:

Bryson Hurst (https://247sports.com/player/bryson-hurst-46102114/) - Gautier, MS

Zyrus Craft (https://247sports.com/player/zyrus-craft-46085422/) - Magee, MS

Jackson Taylor (https://247sports.com/player/jackson-taylor-46111695/) - Brookhaven, MS

Cam East (https://247sports.com/player/cam-east-46111631/) - New Orleans, LA

Will Saxton (https://247sports.com/player/wil-saxton-46111703/) - Benton, MS

Donte Gillard (https://247sports.com/player/donte-gillard-46086863/) - Memphis, TN

Eston Harris Jr (https://247sports.com/player/eston-harris-jr-46098658/). - Opelika, AL


DL:

Jaheim Oatis (https://247sports.com/player/jaheim-oatis-46047745/) - Columbia, MS

Zxavian Harris (https://247sports.com/player/zxavian-harris-46085727/)- Madison, MS

Jacarius Clayton (https://247sports.com/player/jacarius-clayton-46085239/) - Tupelo, MS (committed)

RJ Moss (https://247sports.com/player/r-j-moss-46103675/) - Biloxi, MS

Donterry Russell (https://247sports.com/player/donterry-russell-46103272/)- Jackson, MS

Maxton Woodard (https://247sports.com/player/maxton-woodward-46102529/) - Philadelphia, MS

Nico Davillier (https://247sports.com/player/nico-davillier-46102554/) - Maumelle, AR


LB:

Stone Blanton (https://247sports.com/player/stone-blanton-46098545/) - Madison, MS

JD Stewart (https://247sports.com/player/jd-stewart-46101483/) - Greenwood, MS

Kailep Edwards (https://247sports.com/player/kailep-edwards-46085819/)- Edgard, LA

Tavareon Scott (https://247sports.com/player/tavareon-scott-46101831/) - Dodge City CC

Davin Anderson (https://247sports.com/player/davin-anderson-46094934/) - Greenwood, MS

Trevion Williams (https://247sports.com/player/trevion-williams-46109228/) - Crystal Springs, MS


DB:

Khamauri Rogers (https://247sports.com/player/khamauri-rogers-46081427/) - Lexington, MS

Jacoby Matthews (https://247sports.com/player/jacoby-mathews-46082680/) - Ponchatoula, LA

Jordan Allen (https://247sports.com/player/jordan-allen-46098576/) - Lafayette, LA

Jaydon Hodge (https://247sports.com/player/jaydon-hodge-46096701/) - Ocala, FL

James Monds (https://247sports.com/player/james-monds-iii-46099629/) - Fort Pierce, FL

Jaterrious Elam (https://247sports.com/player/jaterrious-elam-46104075/) - Greenwood, MS

Jhamal Shelby (https://247sports.com/player/jhamal-shelby-46110294/) - New Orleans, LA


I'll try to keep this list updated as more names emerge and guys start to narrow down schools.

[Westdawg]

Alright, if one of you on here really does have an "in" with the recruiting staff, please pass this kid along.....

Hunter Erb--- OT 6'7 305
Eaton HS
Hadley, TX

I've been watching this kid all junior season long. Linking to his Twitter account of a post that is funny for you OL guys.

https://twitter.com/hunter_erb66/status/1339985507225378816?s=21

Follow the link on his profile for HUDL. If you scan through his twitter, you'll find lots of videos of camps this summer, workouts, games, etc. big smart strong and nasty....exactly what you want for this OL

Shameless plug for this kid AGAIN.

He is completely blowing up right now in recruiting. Gained multiple G5 offers early on, now he is gaining P5 offers - most notably Utah and Ole Miss. This is a kid that is a legit 4 ⭐️ OT prospect that is currently a 3 ⭐️....just watch. He's gonna blow up the rankings.
And he is everything we could want in an OT

[StarkVegasSteve]

We need to full court press Klubnik and Bailey. Getting either one of those two would be MASSIVE. Hell Klubnik is probably going to end up the second ranked QB in the country behind Ewers.

[KOdawg1]

We need to full court press Klubnik and Bailey. Getting either one of those two would be MASSIVE. Hell Klubnik is probably going to end up the second ranked QB in the country behind Ewers.
Klibnik is probably going to A&M. We have a good shot at Bailey though as long as Bama and Auburn stay away.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

You are talking 2/200 if you are doing to go back that far. They are the 1%. Bring some stronger evidence.

How many of the 198 actually panned out?

[Offshore Dawg]

The subject line I am getting out of this thread is. If their rating is dropping we have a chance. If the higher profile programs don't offer we have a chance. If old miss doesn't offer a red back pack we have a chance. Yes we are still poor little old Mississippi state. That seems to be the mind set.

[Ari Gold]

You are talking 2/200 if you are doing to go back that far. They are the 1%. Bring some stronger evidence.

Well this year
Lewis was supposedly a lock for OM .. verdict MSU
OM tried all it could to flip Knox.. result Knox a Dawg
Jacobi Moore > Buck
Sawyer > Luke.. and that one isn’t even close. Hell we never even gave Luke a consideration
And yeah they “didn’t want Harmon” sure they didn’t..

Other than MJ which was planned ( which resulted in us getting the equivalent of a 5 star juco DB in Green ) , Buck which doesn’t really matter, and Demarcus Smith the flip their own decomit. Also them looking like complete jackasses the way they screwed Ponders... this “flipmas” which is as douche bag as Yancy himself was a dud..

[HancockCountyDog]

Well this year
Lewis was supposedly a lock for OM .. verdict MSU
OM tried all it could to flip Knox.. result Knox a Dawg
Jacobi Moore > Buck
Sawyer > Luke.. and that one isn?t even close. Hell we never even gave Luke a consideration
And yeah they ?didn?t want Harmon? sure they didn?t..

Other than MJ which was planned ( which resulted in us getting the equivalent of a 5 star juco DB in Green ) , Buck which doesn?t really matter, and Demarcus Smith the flip their own decomit. Also them looking like complete jackasses the way they screwed Ponders... this ?flipmas? which is as douche bag as Yancy himself was a dud..

A whole lotta truth is this post, only thing I know that is off is the Harmon stuff, he was looking around and worried he was going to have to go G5;

The rest is spot on.

[FISHDAWG]

anyone know who this guy is ?

https://twitter.com/RexRobich/status/1353516916523020290

[Cooterpoot]

Longsnapper walkon

[ZedFedder]

Not that it matters much right now, but I saw where Khamauri Rogers got a 6 level (out of 10) confidence pick to OM on the 247 crystal ball.

[Cooterpoot]

Not that it matters much right now, but I saw where Khamauri Rogers got a 6 level (out of 10) confidence pick to OM on the 247 crystal ball.

I don't see him heading to OM.

[ZedFedder]

I don't see him heading to OM.

I don't either. I feel like our chances are decent.

[Ari Gold]

I don't see him heading to OM.

Agree, in state it will be us ..
my guess right now he goes out of state

[KOdawg1]

Agree, in state it will be us ..
my guess right now he goes out of state

I want Khamari, no doubt, but he's not a 97 rated 4 star. He got that ranking just because of his commitment to LSU.

So if we lose him, it's not like it's a can't miss prospect. Again, I definitely want him.

[Cooterpoot]

I want Khamari, no doubt, but he's not a 97 rated 4 star. He got that ranking just because of his commitment to LSU.

So if we lose him, it's not like it's a can't miss prospect. Again, I definitely want him.

He's not a 97 but he's pretty damn good. There are are few DBs in MS this round. He's at/near the top.

[PendingTransaction]

Khamari might be a bidding war recruit.

[KOdawg1]

He's not a 97 but he's pretty damn good. There are are few DBs in MS this round. He's at/near the top.
Needs to put on some weight.

Agree about there not being a lot of MS DBs this year. He's definitely a kid we need to land. Just saying he's not the 5 star he was made out to be early on.

[Westdawg]

Needs to put on some weight.

Agree about there not being a lot of MS DBs this year. He's definitely a kid we need to land. Just saying he's not the 5 star he was made out to be early on.

He may not be a 5 ⭐️, but he's every bit of a very high 4 ⭐️ He's going to grow into his frame once in college. And he's one heckuva WR, as well

[Westdawg]

Here's a new 2022 offer
Khalid Moore
6'2 210 LB prospect

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/12615162/5fe221569676cd11586f9ef5

[Westdawg]

Here's a new 2022 offer
Khalid Moore
6'2 210 LB prospect

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/12615162/5fe221569676cd11586f9ef5

Wooo --- look at that dang speed!!!

[bulldawg28]

Here's a new 2022 offer
Khalid Moore
6'2 210 LB prospect

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/12615162/5fe221569676cd11586f9ef5

We need him. He's got Willie Gay impact written all over him.

[Cooterpoot]

We need him. He's got Willie Gay impact written all over him.

He's raw and needs some weight. But he's athletic as hell!

[ZedFedder]

There are guys State offers where you think, "Ahh, yeah, he's a decent player". Then there are guys like this where you know they are studs.

[KOdawg1]

There are guys State offers where you think, "Ahh, yeah, he's a decent player". Then there are guys like this where you know they are studs.
Exactly. Glad we're on him early.

[Westdawg]

There are guys State offers where you think, "Ahh, yeah, he's a decent player". Then there are guys like this where you know they are studs.

I honestly happened across his twitter post about the offer - someone I follow "liked" it - and I had never heard of him.

I mean....DANG....
this kid is L E G I T

[Turfdawg67]

The subject line I am getting out of this thread is. If their rating is dropping we have a chance. If the higher profile programs don't offer we have a chance. If old miss doesn't offer a red back pack we have a chance. Yes we are still poor little old Mississippi state. That seems to be the mind set.

Truth hurts. If we want to go all in, we'll get the MS recruits we want, but we are still gonna lose guys to Bama, LSU, UGA, etc... it's just the way it is.

[Ari Gold]

We have a really good chance to hurt some feelings in Louisiana this year... remember I said this ...

[StateDawg44]

We have a really good chance to hurt some feelings in Louisiana this year... remember I said this ...

Not to be a downer. And I'll take them however they come.

But how much of that has to do LSU having their backs up against the wall and players/families reading the writing on said wall?

[Westdawg]

Shameless plug for this kid AGAIN.

He is completely blowing up right now in recruiting. Gained multiple G5 offers early on, now he is gaining P5 offers - most notably Utah and Ole Miss. This is a kid that is a legit 4 ⭐️ OT prospect that is currently a 3 ⭐️....just watch. He's gonna blow up the rankings.
And he is everything we could want in an OT

My shameless plug AGAIN.

Hunter Erb, OT.

in the past week or so, he's received offers from almost every P5 in the PAC and several SEC and Big 12 offers.
Been saying it for well over a year ur was going to blow up

At this point, we are on the outside looking in even if we offer, but I think this staff could do good work there. Hunter's HS has several guys in the pipeline that could be very promising in the coming classes, as well.

[StarkVegasSteve]

What the hell is up with Stone Blanton? This kid grew up a huge Mississippi State fan and is already committed to us for baseball and now he comes out basically bashing our staff saying that we're not showing him enough love. I don't know if this is a play to make him look more available, but knowing that this staff doesn't play recruiting games he's playing with fire if he really wants to come here.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Based on some insight from folks in the know, our staff has NOT been after him hard. I don?t know what?s going on.

[Westdawg]

Based on some insight from folks in the know, our staff has NOT been after him hard. I don?t know what?s going on.

What's up with that

[Hambone]

Maybe after Mule Leach isn’t interested in dual sport athletes?
Never mind, they’ve already taken the commitment from another kid that’s committed to play baseball

[Leeshouldveflanked]

What the hell is up with Stone Blanton? This kid grew up a huge Mississippi State fan and is already committed to us for baseball and now he comes out basically bashing our staff saying that we're not showing him enough love. I don't know if this is a play to make him look more available, but knowing that this staff doesn't play recruiting games he's playing with fire if he really wants to come here.

If he is bashing our staff... Leach will move on from him quickly

[HancockCountyDog]

What the hell is up with Stone Blanton? This kid grew up a huge Mississippi State fan and is already committed to us for baseball and now he comes out basically bashing our staff saying that we're not showing him enough love. I don't know if this is a play to make him look more available, but knowing that this staff doesn't play recruiting games he's playing with fire if he really wants to come here.

Is this just a rumor or can anyone confirm this?

[HailStateSZN19]

We have a really good chance to hurt some feelings in Louisiana this year... remember I said this ...

How you think we will fare with Shawn Preston?s brother, Shazz? He?s a monster but idk how pro-LSU he might be or how receptive to MSU he?d be with Shawn here & playing a lot.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Blanton basically said in the interview that he has not heard from our staff that much.

[Bothrops]

Larry Simmons WR from Moss Point commits to OM. I hope Ari is right about Louisiana because I personally think we are going to get our teeth kicked in instate this year.

[Cooterpoot]

OM is kicking our asses in recruiting. They've got a top 20 class this year and will next year. They're cleaning up the skill guys in MS. The MJ double whammy has really hurt us.
And I'll go ahead and tell you, I don't currently expect us to get either of the big DL instate this year. We aren't pulling the top RB either. The top WRs are committed to OM already. I think we've got time to change some of that, but it'll be tough. This staff needs to get things done in state this year.

[msbulldog]

This years class:
OM has 23 recruits with an average ranking of 87.61
MSU has 21 recruits with and average ranking of 87.57
If you extrapolate that to 23 players for MSU we are just about equal in the ranking.

[Ari Gold]

I get some concern , but it’s still 11 months out ... Simmons was surprising and I have changed my feelings with Khamauri Rogers.. it’s out of state or OM.. Not even sure we should get involved to be honest ..
But

I will take
Shazz Preston over Simmons & Jacoby Matthews over Rogers... all day every day.. And we have a great shot at both

With Oatis and Harris.. I see Oatis out of state and Harris to State .
Robinson RB .. honestly if we get him great if not ok..
The biggest blow so far IMO is Marquez Dortch. But it’s still a ways till December and that OM staff could look very different by then

Would love to get a commit form 2 of the 3 if not all 3 of the LBS ( Blanton, Stewart, and Khalid Moore) sooner than later
Russell should be a lock, and his ranking will be lower than it should be.
I think Jacarius Clayton is going to blow up and collect big offers and pressed by some of the big boy schools. Need to make sure we hold on to him. And we seem to be in good shape with Bryson Hurst .. that’s 2 solid instate OL ...

Main thing with next year is hopefully and if it’s not what a crock of shit , camps and visits should be back to normal come early summer. Get some guys on campus and in camps and around some of our coaches and things could change for the better.

[KOdawg1]

I'm not panicking on 2022 yet..

Zxavian Harris is an MSU lean. 4*

Bryson Hurst is an MSU lean. 4*

If we stop d*cking around and treat Stone Blanton like the priority he is, we have a decent shot at him. 4*

Demonte Russell's little brother will be a good prospect and we'll have a great shot at him.

We're still a long ways out. Chill.

[ZedFedder]

We will see how things shake out, but there are more than a few times these early commits don't hang on. With that being said, it still is a big blow. We will see how things shake out.

[bulldawg28]

OM is kicking our asses in recruiting. They've got a top 20 class this year and will next year. They're cleaning up the skill guys in MS. The MJ double whammy has really hurt us.
And I'll go ahead and tell you, I don't currently expect us to get either of the big DL instate this year. We aren't pulling the top RB either. The top WRs are committed to OM already. I think we've got time to change some of that, but it'll be tough. This staff needs to get things done in state this year.

Let MJ go. He's not Deion Sanders.

[vv83]

Let MJ go. He's not Deion Sanders.

His point is his teammate is a highly coveted 2022 recruit so we're essentially missing out on both. It's fine to point out, this is a recruiting thread.

[Madisonmd]

Based on some insight from folks in the know, our staff has NOT been after him hard. I don?t know what?s going on.

Rod Gibson communicates with him daily, but Arnett has been lagging.

[Westdawg]

Rod Gibson communicates with him daily, but Arnett has been lagging.

One glaring negative of Arnett running around talking to all those programs.....

[bulldawg28]

His point is his teammate is a highly coveted 2022 recruit so we're essentially missing out on both. It's fine to point out, this is a recruiting thread.

It's literally 12 months before they sign. To freak out now is pointless. These kids flip commitments monthly.

[Turfdawg67]

One glaring negative of Arnett running around talking to all those programs.....

I love this hyperbole... 4-5 more times randomly said on this board and it'll become fact. You have no idea what his reasons are, it's one defensive recruit.

[HancockCountyDog]

It's literally 12 months before they sign. To freak out now is pointless. These kids flip commitments monthly.

This times a million.

[Westdawg]

I love this hyperbole... 4-5 more times randomly said on this board and it'll become fact. You have no idea what his reasons are, it's one defensive recruit.

I meant for those dots to be ** instead. I was being sarcastic. But it's on me because I didn't add the * lol

[Bothrops]

We better win some games this year, and make damn sure we get that last one.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We better win some games this year, and make damn sure we get that last one.
Googles Mike Leach record vs Rival....

[Hambone]

I feel like this has been a horse that has been beaten beyond dead but when people throw up the “well how did he do in rival games” I wish they would realize how night and day different Washington State and Washington were.....

By comparison sakes, how well does Vanderbilt do against their rival Tennessee???

Apples to oranges

[bulldawg28]

I feel like this has been a horse that has been beaten beyond dead but when people throw up the “well how did he do in rival games” I wish they would realize how night and day different Washington State and Washington were.....

By comparison sakes, how well does Vanderbilt do against their rival Tennessee???

Apples to oranges

Yep

[Todd4State]

I feel like this has been a horse that has been beaten beyond dead but when people throw up the “well how did he do in rival games” I wish they would realize how night and day different Washington State and Washington were.....

By comparison sakes, how well does Vanderbilt do against their rival Tennessee???

Apples to oranges

It's also irrelevant. We didn't lose the Egg Bowl because Leach didn't focus enough on it. We lost it because we showed up with about 45 players and no secondary. Still should have won honestly. Austin Williams fumble was the turning point in that game IMO.

[BuckyIsAB****]

It's also irrelevant. We didn't lose the Egg Bowl because Leach didn't focus enough on it. We lost it because we showed up with about 45 players and no secondary. Still should have won honestly. Austin Williams fumble was the turning point in that game IMO.

43 players and it came down to the last play after we fumbled at the foot line and rolled several snaps to our QB.

Leach is going to win against OM. They can have that one.

They are not kicking our asses in recruiting. It honestly does not change much from year to year until one just falls off the map or cheats. We will get our share and they will get theirs. It will come down to one or two we both want to win the Twitter battle on signing day

[bulldawg28]

43 players and it came down to the last play after we fumbled at the foot line and rolled several snaps to our QB.

Leach is going to win against OM. They can have that one.

They are not kicking our asses in recruiting. It honestly does not change much from year to year until one just falls off the map or cheats. We will get our share and they will get theirs. It will come down to one or two we both want to win the Twitter battle on signing day

Indeed

[Westdawg]

Who is this kid???!!?!!

Zy Ford 6'0 210
East Webster
LB
https://twitter.com/king_bulldozer/status/1330604683115835392?s=21

[Westdawg]

He's fast 👀👀

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Who is this kid???!!?!!

Zy Ford 6'0 210
East Webster
LB
https://twitter.com/king_bulldozer/status/1330604683115835392?s=21

Problem is he's about 5'10" maybe 5'11". That's probably going to keep him out the SEC.

[Westdawg]

Ahh....the old "stretch" play 😉

[KOdawg1]

Who is this kid???!!?!!

Zy Ford 6'0 210
East Webster
LB
https://twitter.com/king_bulldozer/status/1330604683115835392?s=21
Zy can play. Problem is his height. He'll be a force in a smaller league.

[FISHDAWG]

I meant for those dots to be ** instead. I was being sarcastic. But it's on me because I didn't add the * lol

no it's not on you ... the post never needed sarcasterisc because this is a very valid point and could be part of the problem of whiffing on DB's in this class

[FISHDAWG]

He's fast 👀👀

so was Brandon Holloway ... There has to be a place on the team for speed somewhere. I doubt Leach would try to run him between the tackles like someone else I know

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Looks like we are expecting Cooper and Hargrove today.

[bulldawg28]

Who is this kid???!!?!!

Zy Ford 6'0 210
East Webster
LB
https://twitter.com/king_bulldozer/status/1330604683115835392?s=21

He could be a dog safety.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

He could be a dog safety.

Naw he's not that fast.

[DLGDawg]

Problem is he's about 5'10" maybe 5'11". That's probably going to keep him out the SEC.

My son is a jr this year(played oline this year) and plays with Zy.

IMO I don't think he'll be a P5 college player either. Good kid though.

My son is 6'4" 290-295. He loves baseball though. Never been to a football camp of any kind.

I'm a little bias...ha...but I think he would have been an SEC left tackle if he would have chased football all these years instead of baseball.

[Jarius]

OM is kicking our asses in recruiting. They've got a top 20 class this year and will next year. They're cleaning up the skill guys in MS. The MJ double whammy has really hurt us.
And I'll go ahead and tell you, I don't currently expect us to get either of the big DL instate this year. We aren't pulling the top RB either. The top WRs are committed to OM already. I think we've got time to change some of that, but it'll be tough. This staff needs to get things done in state this year.

I feel very confident that we will get Harris.

[Matt3467]

What's the story on Ty Simpson? I think I've read somewhere that we had a family connection but apparently he's more interested in OM than us. How does that happen?

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

He is going to Clemson

[StarkVegasSteve]

What's the story on Ty Simpson? I think I've read somewhere that we had a family connection but apparently he's more interested in OM than us. How does that happen?

Leach and Co. had him lower on their QB board than Dan and Joe did. If Moorhead was still here I imagine Ty Simpson would've come here.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Leach and Co. had him lower on their QB board than Dan and Joe did. If Moorhead was still here I imagine Ty Simpson would've come here.

I don't think Moorhead would've beat out Dabo but we would've been a lot more in the race.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I don't think Moorhead would've beat out Dabo but we would've been a lot more in the race.

The times I talked to Jason, Ty's dad, I know he was very enamored with Moorhead's offense. I do agree it would've been hard to beat Dabo though. Especially with how we probably would've looked under Moorhead.

[ZedFedder]

Speaking of, who do you guys think we get at QB?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Speaking of, who do you guys think we get at QB?

I think we want either Klubnik or Bailey. I think our chances are much better with Bailey. Outside of that I don't really know who we'll take. Our offers are Ewers(tOSU commit), Marichol(FSU commit), Walker Howard(LSU commit), Gunner Stockton(UGA commit), Klubnik, Bailey, Simpson, and MJ Morris.

I imagine if we don't get Bailey or Klubnik then we reevaluate or just look in the portal for depth. With both Greek and Robertson coming in we don't necessarily have to take a QB.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Speaking of, who do you guys think we get at QB?

Likely someone we haven't offered.

[ZedFedder]

Gotcha. Thanks y'all.

[Matt3467]

Blows my mind why Simpson would want to go to a team that already has a 5 star freshman QB on the roster that'll have a year on him due to COVID.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Blows my mind why Simpson would want to go to a team that already has a 5 star freshman QB on the roster that'll have a year on him due to COVID.

Because QBs have big egos. If they don't think they can beat the current starter then I don't want them on my team. Hell that's like saying Sawyer saw Will having success this year so he'd be stupid to come to State.

[Matt3467]

Because QBs have big egos. If they don't think they can beat the current starter then I don't want them on my team. Hell that's like saying Sawyer saw Will having success this year so he'd be stupid to come to State.

I can see that in the NFL for sure but a player only has so much time to show off in college. In this case I highly doubt he'll beat out DJ. That guy can sling it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Blows my mind why Simpson would want to go to a team that already has a 5 star freshman QB on the roster that'll have a year on him due to COVID.

Ty will only be there 1 year with DJ. DJ will go pro after Ty True Freshman year. There won't be much overlap at all.

[Matt3467]

Ty will only be there 1 year with DJ. DJ will go pro after Ty True Freshman year. There won't be much overlap at all.

I didn't think he could. Isn't he a RS Freshman? With the rule changes he'll still be a Freshman when Ty comes in right?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I didn't think he could. Isn't he a RS Freshman? With the rule changes he'll still be a Freshman when Ty comes in right?

Ty is a '22 kid. This coming up year DJ will be a 2nd year Freshman & Ty Will be a Sr. Then Ty True Freshman year DJ will be a 3rd year Soph. He's gone after then. So Ty Will either be a RS Fresh or True Soph.

[Hambone]

https://twitter.com/byrdelam/status/1360409682448437250?s=21

[ZedFedder]

Sweet!

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Kid can really play. Likely a FS in college.

[ZedFedder]

Kid can really play. Likely a FS in college.

Really like his measurables. I know his 247 profile shows an LSU offer, though I am sure that is probably not committable.

[bulldawg28]

Really like his measurables. I know his 247 profile shows an LSU offer, though I am sure that is probably not committable.

Why because he committed to State?

[Bothrops]

Really like his measurables. I know his 247 profile shows an LSU offer, though I am sure that is probably not committable.

It would be commitable at this stage.

[Ari Gold]

Good to get this kid now.. He will get a lot of attention before signing day

[Hambone]

It also will not hurt with his teammates, provided we are after them, which I’m sure we are.

[Bothrops]

It also will not hurt with his teammates, provided we are after them, which I’m sure we are.

I was told a while back that JD Stewart was the best defensive player in the state this year

[Cooterpoot]

I was told a while back that JD Stewart was the best defensive player in the state this year

I wouldn't go that far.

[Hambone]

Jackson Cannon (OL) has just committed

[Cooterpoot]

Jackson Cannon (OL) has just committed

1 year of football in a run heavy offense. No major offers. Not sure I would've been in a hurry with him but we're going to sign so many OL maybe we find a diamond.

[bulldawg28]

1 year of football in a run heavy offense. No major offers. Not sure I would've been in a hurry with him but we're going to sign so many OL maybe we find a diamond.

Who do you like? Sheessh.... these coaches know what they're doing.

[Cooterpoot]

Who do you like? Sheessh.... these coaches know what they're doing.

I never said I didn't like him. But he's a kid we could've waited on and still gotten. We're about to sign two kids that have really never pass blocked in HS. I find that a little odd after the complaints last year that we had too many guys that were run blockers and few OL that fit the scheme. I believe we'll sign 5 OL. So down the road, we're going to have the ability to thin the heard anyway if we hit on several. And hopefully they see a diamond in this kid. OL is a spot you can do that.

[Cooterpoot]

I like most of what I'm seeing on the defensive side in recruiting. From all the talk, we lead for some good DL and are in it with some too. That was a concern last round but they appear to have the ball rolling. Still need to fill the DB spots and that's been a chore. Looks like safety is solid but CB still the issue. Looks like we're on several big body, physical receivers this round.

[KOdawg1]

I think sometimes this staff takes guys a little too early, but they evaluate these guys more in depth than I do and interact with them, so they obviously can read a situation better than I do. I also get that some of these guys could blow up so you want to have them early, but I just think some are guys you could get in the last minute if you had to, and I don't want us to have to turn down a better player Bc we filled up at the position.

The kid has size though which imo, is the most important part.

[KOdawg1]

I like most of what I'm seeing on the defensive side in recruiting. From all the talk, we lead for some good DL and are in it with some too. That was a concern last round but they appear to have the ball rolling. Still need to fill the DB spots and that's been a chore. Looks like safety is solid but CB still the issue. Looks like we're on several big body, physical receivers this round.
Agree, we should have a solid defensive class bc the state is much better this year.

[Ari Gold]

Go ahead and get the kid in the boat. Lots of time to evaluate.
If he “blows up” a little we already have him all work then will be to close.. , if he regresses or isn’t a fit for us a little later you process him..

Win / win

[Cooterpoot]

Go ahead and get the kid in the boat. Lots of time to evaluate.
If he “blows up” a little we already have him all work then will be to close.. , if he regresses or isn’t a fit for us a little later you process him..

Win / win

I'm not always a fan of it, but I do think this staff will do more of it. OL you can do it. Skill spots are tougher. We hung ourselves out cutting loose players this last round.

[KOdawg1]

Go ahead and get the kid in the boat. Lots of time to evaluate.
If he “blows up” a little we already have him all work then will be to close.. , if he regresses or isn’t a fit for us a little later you process him..

Win / win

You can get away with that with OOS kids. Not so much in-state. You can some (see Howard and Toles) but you can't make a habit of it.

[sscjr1]

Steve hinting that Khalid Moore may commit soon

[OLJWales]

1 year of football in a run heavy offense. No major offers. Not sure I would've been in a hurry with him but we're going to sign so many OL maybe we find a diamond.

Nope.

[Matt3467]

CB for a 4* QB out of AL: https://247sports.com/Player/Tanner-Bailey-46081988/

[Ari Gold]

You can get away with that with OOS kids. Not so much in-state. You can some (see Howard and Toles) but you can't make a habit of it.

Well until they make a habit of it , it?s a non issue.
And with OL , they are by far the hardest kids to evaluate. We are a prime example of that.. Jenkins, Gabe Jackson, day, beckwith , ect... so let?s not judge a kid by stars when there were no camps all of last summer.
Get as many OL as you can in the boat and then process accordingly. Every school does it. Just don?t make it a Ponders situation..

[Ifyouonlyknew]

CB for a 4* QB out of AL: https://247sports.com/Player/Tanner-Bailey-46081988/

I'd feel better if it was Steve or Paul or at least tell us what you heard to make a CB pick with 8 confidence.

[yjnkdawg]

CB for a 4* QB out of AL: https://247sports.com/Player/Tanner-Bailey-46081988/


And everybody else but Gene are CB'ing him to SC. :rolleyes:

[KOdawg1]

I'd feel better if it was Steve or Paul or at least tell us what you heard to make a CB pick with 8 confidence.

Yeah, no offense to Gene, but he's not a reliable football recruiting source as far as I'm concerned. He only puts in CBs because of what Paul and Steve tell him.

[Cooterpoot]

Yeah, no offense to Gene, but he's not a reliable football recruiting source as far as I'm concerned. He only puts in CBs because of what Paul and Steve tell him.

Never question the power of the black jorts!

[BuckyIsAB****]

QB recruiting under Leach should be the least of anyones concern. He will get a good one most every year and if he misses he will get a high ranked transfer. Everyone wanted Costello he just washed out. Never really learned the offense

[Todd4State]

Yeah, no offense to Gene, but he's not a reliable football recruiting source as far as I'm concerned. He only puts in CBs because of what Paul and Steve tell him.

I seriously doubt they told him to put that CB in.

[Todd4State]

Well until they make a habit of it , it?s a non issue.
And with OL , they are by far the hardest kids to evaluate. We are a prime example of that.. Jenkins, Gabe Jackson, day, beckwith , ect... so let?s not judge a kid by stars when there were no camps all of last summer.
Get as many OL as you can in the boat and then process accordingly. Every school does it. Just don?t make it a Ponders situation..

Yeah. I'm not holding Howard against Leach since he committed to Moorhead. Toles I get from a numbers standpoint but the reality is he ended up at USM. It's not like he ended up at another SEC school.

[Todd4State]

I'm not always a fan of it, but I do think this staff will do more of it. OL you can do it. Skill spots are tougher. We hung ourselves out cutting loose players this last round.

Yeah. We need to go with a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush approach from now on.

[KOdawg1]

I seriously doubt they told him to put that CB in.

I didn't say they told him to do it. Just saying most of his inside info comes from them.

[Hambone]

https://twitter.com/khalidjmoore1/status/1368580455121948676?s=21

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Boom! This is a nice one

[Ifyouonlyknew]

https://twitter.com/khalidjmoore1/status/1368580455121948676?s=21

Very big pickup

[KOdawg1]

That's a big pick up

[HoopsDawg]

where does Dakota Jordan project?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

where does Dakota Jordan project?

Recruiting him as a RB.

[ZedFedder]

Doesn’t have to do with us, but shout out to Will Hall and USM for getting a bunch of MS players early. USM has been lacking there.

[Ari Gold]

We have a really good chance to hurt some feelings in Louisiana this year... remember I said this ...

Bump

[Santiago]

Bump

Would that possibly mean some good news before Easter?

[Ari Gold]

Would that possibly mean some good news before Easter?

Doubtful.. just have to be patient

[MetEdDawg]

Kylon Griffin, safety from Montgomery Catholic Prep, commits to the good guys.

He shows good offers. FSU, Penn State, Iowa, and Michigan State. Not sure if those are commitable or not. Seems rated awfully low to have those types of P5 offers. Here's his profile:

https://247sports.com/player/kylon-griffin-46101328/

[Hot Rock]

I never know why some 85 rated safety gets an offer and a different 85 rated one does not.

I hope its because our coaches have better information than a recruiting service with no real skin the game other than clicks or subscription sales.

[Bothrops]

Kylon Griffin, safety from Montgomery Catholic Prep, commits to the good guys.

He shows good offers. FSU, Penn State, Iowa, and Michigan State. Not sure if those are commitable or not. Seems rated awfully low to have those types of P5 offers. Here's his profile:

https://247sports.com/player/kylon-griffin-46101328/

Had a nice junior season, and I like his height.

[PMDawg]

Very big pickup

Khalio will be a battle until the end. Being the first to offer him is big for us. Lane is pressing hard.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Steve is waving the pirate flag. Who committed?

[Hambone]

He retweeted this right after. https://twitter.com/_hodgesauce_/status/1380188699816759299?s=21

[Ifyouonlyknew]

He retweeted this right after. https://twitter.com/_hodgesauce_/status/1380188699816759299?s=21

He's not a take.

[sscjr1]

https://247sports.com/player/jourdan-thomas-46103650/

[Hambone]

So was Ole Steve just a little premature or was he referring to the basketball commit?

[Ari Gold]

So was Ole Steve just a little premature or was he referring to the basketball commit?

I think we will have 3 or 4 commits within the next 10 days

[Hambone]

https://twitter.com/1wesleymiller/status/1381292304862998536?s=21

[Bothrops]

https://twitter.com/1wesleymiller/status/1381292304862998536?s=21

Nice!

[sscjr1]

Jourdan Thomas commits

[Irondawg]

Anybody know much about these recent safety commits?

[Hot Rock]

Anybody know much about these recent safety commits?

a quick look at 247 sports... all three have legit offers from power 5 schools.

Glancing at the highlights, I liked what I saw on all three. This group will do nicely, Thank You!

[Todd4State]

I like how Leach and his staff address roster balance immediately unlike Dan and his friends. You can't win in the SEC with all freshmen receivers because you didn't recruit any for three years or have a class with one high school offensive lineman that qualified.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Steve is flying the flag. Who is it?

[sscjr1]

Steve is flying the flag. Who is it?

https://247sports.com/player/tyler-woodard-46100102/

[FISHDAWG]

pretty decent offers for a 3 star ... looks like a good get. Hope we can hang on to him if he blows up and adds another star this season

[Hambone]

https://twitter.com/_elite3/status/1382082918357536773?s=21

[BrunswickDawg]

Something I noticed - 5 private schools kids and a public charter school kid of 9 commits so far.
Seems unusual based on past years

[Todd4State]

Something I noticed - 5 private schools kids and a public charter school kid of 9 commits so far.
Seems unusual based on past years

I just think that's kind of the way things are. I know Elam went to a private school because his public school team shut down due to COVID. The private schools being inferior to public schools thing has been a myth that has been busted for about ten years now. So I think more parents are OK sending their kid to those schools to play sports.

Although I'd like to see Stone Blanton transfer to Madison Central for his senior year. (smile)

[Cooterpoot]

I just think that's kind of the way things are. I know Elam went to a private school because his public school team shut down due to COVID. The private schools being inferior to public schools thing has been a myth that has been busted for about ten years now. So I think more parents are OK sending their kid to those schools to play sports.

Although I'd like to see Stone Blanton transfer to Madison Central for his senior year. (smile)

That's not a myth. That's fact. Public ball is better, especially athlete-wise. 2A teams have beaten both Prep and MRA the last couple years and those are the best in private.

[BrunswickDawg]

I just think that's kind of the way things are. I know Elam went to a private school because his public school team shut down due to COVID. The private schools being inferior to public schools thing has been a myth that has been busted for about ten years now. So I think more parents are OK sending their kid to those schools to play sports.

Although I'd like to see Stone Blanton transfer to Madison Central for his senior year. (smile)


That's not a myth. That's fact. Public ball is better, especially athlete-wise. 2A teams have beaten both Prep and MRA the last couple years and those are the best in private.

I think it probably depends on the school and where it is. Benedictine Academy in Savannah comes to mind for me. They cherry pick athletes from around Savannah and put them on "scholarship". They also play in the public-school GHSA at the AAA level instead of destroying the other small private schools in the GISA along the coast like Frederica Academy here on St Simons. They produce D1 athletes regularly. BA regularly beats 4A -7A teams across South Ga. Kids from private schools like BA I think are a bonus and are used to competition at a high level.

[Todd4State]

That's not a myth. That's fact. Public ball is better, especially athlete-wise. 2A teams have beaten both Prep and MRA the last couple years and those are the best in private.

Prep has also beaten Pearl before too.

The myth used to be that a private school would be unable to beat the worst 1A team in the state has definitely been busted.

[ZedFedder]

Jaheim Oatis to Bama.

[Bdawg]

Jaheim Oatis to Bama.

We will never climb the ladder. Hope we can change his mind.

[Ari Gold]

Jaheim Oatis to Bama.

How is Yancy going to spin this one ?

[Ari Gold]

We will never climb the ladder. Hope we can change his mind.


We were never in it for Oatis. It happens. That’s why we were/are all in on Z Harris from the start.
Know the battles you can and can’t win.

[Ari Gold]

DL / LB/ DB / and OL are looking Good and could all be very good in this 2022 cycle..
Props to the staff so far..

[Cooterpoot]

We will never climb the ladder. Hope we can change his mind.

We'll be fine without him.

[Cooterpoot]

Prep has also beaten Pearl before too.

The myth used to be that a private school would be unable to beat the worst 1A team in the state has definitely been busted.

That was never the myth. That first game with Prep and George Co. all those years ago proved that. But private schools aren't as strong overall, don't have the athletes, and outside of MRA, none of them could've won 2A this year.

[DCdawg]

Any opinions on the new director of recruiting?

[Cooterpoot]

Any opinions on the new director of recruiting?

Solid hire

[Commercecomet24]

DL / LB/ DB / and OL are looking Good and could all be very good in this 2022 cycle..
Props to the staff so far..

They're doing a bang up job right now. I'm happy with the way things are going currently.

[Todd4State]

That was never the myth. That first game with Prep and George Co. all those years ago proved that. But private schools aren't as strong overall, don't have the athletes, and outside of MRA, none of them could've won 2A this year.

Regardless the very top players in that league are as good as the ones in public schools. I'm talking about the Stone Blanton's and Jerrion Ealy's. Not the average player at East Rankin Academy.

[Todd4State]

Any opinions on the new director of recruiting?

Seems good to me. I like that he has been at Arizona where they have to use a similar recruiting model as MSU but he's also been at Michigan where they recruit well and he probably has some insight on how bluebloods recruit and what they put into it- which is what MSU really needs as far as recruiting. Because to be honest I don't feel like we put as much into recruiting as we could or should. And I think it's more of a "we don't know" issue than anything from the administration standpoint.

[Ari Gold]

A what if ...

If signing day was tomorrow
We would have 2 Preston’s on the roster.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

A what if ...

If signing day was tomorrow
We would have 2 Preston’s on the roster.

Also what if LSU isn't the biggest competitor.

[Ari Gold]

Also what if LSU isn't the biggest competitor.

Also correct...

[HailStateSZN19]

Also what if LSU isn't the biggest competitor.

Who is? Bama?

[Bdawg]

A what if ...

If signing day was tomorrow
We would have 2 Preston’s on the roster.

Idk. Would we?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Who is? Bama?

A&M at the moment.

[sscjr1]

A what if ...

If signing day was tomorrow
We would have 2 Preston’s on the roster.

Still not getting my hopes up

[Ari Gold]

Really Bad news coming today .. big blow.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Mason Smith leaving? He has been good for recruiting for sure

[BrunswickDawg]

Mason Smith leaving? He has been good for recruiting for sure

Hard to say no when Momma calls you home

[ZedFedder]

That is not good. At the same time, we knew he would not be here very long. Still, that is a huge blow because you heard him mentioned a ton with recruits.

[Cooterpoot]

Mason Smith can eat a bag of *****. Anyone that jumps ship can go to hell in my opinion. Hope LSU gets smoked by the NCAA and recruiting gets limited a few years.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

I hope I?m wrong, but I think LSU skates. Hell, they?re trying to hire Emmert!

[Ari Gold]

Mason Smith can eat a bag of *****. Anyone that jumps ship can go to hell in my opinion. Hope LSU gets smoked by the NCAA and recruiting gets limited a few years.

Nothing like that..and didn’t go down that way

He do have one guy on this staff ( I’m not going to say who he is right now ) that Has way too much stroke

With Mason,
A smart up and coming guy in recruiting with lots of contacts , great with kids and parents , and has that IT factor about him when it comes to recruiting and relationships
From my understanding we basically made zero effort to counter offer when he came to us.
Mason loved it here , girlfriend here, would have stayed here .. could we had matched the offer from LSU probably not
But if it went down the way I was told I would have left as well ..

So yeah WE ****ed this up , and it will hurt us short term and long term ...

[StarkVegasSteve]

Nothing like that..and didn’t go down that way

He do have one guy on this staff ( I’m not going to say who he is right now ) that Has way too much stroke

With Mason,
A smart up and coming guy in recruiting with lots of contacts , great with kids and parents , and has that IT factor about him when it comes to recruiting and relationships
From my understanding we basically made zero effort to counter offer when he came to us.
Mason loved it here , girlfriend here, would have stayed here .. could we had matched the offer from LSU probably not
But if it went down the way I was told I would have left as well ..

So yeah WE ****ed this up , and it will hurt us short term and long term ...

Yea Mason's a good guy. He was a very personable guy and could strike up a conversation with anyone. He also loved Starkville and was very passionate about the program. I really hope it didn't go down like this because he was a good one to have on our staff and I'd hate to know that we didn't make some sort of effort to keep him.

[Ari Gold]

Yea Mason's a good guy. He was a very personable guy and could strike up a conversation with anyone. He also loved Starkville and was very passionate about the program. I really hope it didn't go down like this because he was a good one to have on our staff and I'd hate to know that we didn't make some sort of effort to keep him.

From what I was told it did . And is actually more to it ..
bottom line Mason May have ended up going to LSU no matter what , but this prick we have here is going to be an issue and he probably isn’t leaving anytime soon..

[BrunswickDawg]

From what I was told it did . And is actually more to it ..
bottom line Mason May have ended up going to LSU no matter what , but this prick we have here is going to be an issue and he probably isn’t leaving anytime soon..

When did we re-hire Hevesy??***

[Cooterpoot]

We are the lowest paying, for such a position, in the SEC (not sure on Vandy). Little Larry Jr. isn't going to pay. But he'll waste a ton on a shitty women's coach or two. But Smith is from LA. It was going to be tough.

[StarkVegasSteve]

From what I was told it did . And is actually more to it ..
bottom line Mason May have ended up going to LSU no matter what , but this prick we have here is going to be an issue and he probably isn’t leaving anytime soon..

An issue in that he's not very good and will turn off recruits or an issue in that he's power hungry and wants to consolidate it all through him. Neither are good btw.

[Bothrops]

Mason Smith can eat a bag of *****. Anyone that jumps ship can go to hell in my opinion. Hope LSU gets smoked by the NCAA and recruiting gets limited a few years.

They won't

[Ari Gold]

An issue in that he's not very good and will turn off recruits or an issue in that he's power hungry and wants to consolidate it all through him. Neither are good btw.

It may be both, but more second option

[Ari Gold]

We are the lowest paying, for such a position, in the SEC (not sure on Vandy). Little Larry Jr. isn't going to pay. But he'll waste a ton on a shitty women's coach or two. But Smith is from LA. It was going to be tough.

Not only lowers paying but least amount of hired hands for these jobs.
It’s embarrassing and people that bitch 24/7 about our recruiting every year it’s starts with this..

[thf24]

It may be both, but more second option

Is this an on-field coach or an office guy?

[Hambone]

Damn, Jay Hopson hasn’t been there long enough ***

[Bothrops]

I never thought we'd sign Preston anyway. LSU wouldn't have let it happen.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Mason Smith can eat a bag of *****. Anyone that jumps ship can go to hell in my opinion. Hope LSU gets smoked by the NCAA and recruiting gets limited a few years.

You ever change jobs?

[Offshore Dawg]

You need to remember we are poor little old Mississippi State, we must know our place. We should be thankful that we have been allowed to have a fairly decent baseball team over the years. But we should not expect to win any championships. State is in the SEC to provide wins for the big boys. When we have something working or good staff members it must be taken away so we will know our place. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ZedFedder]

You need to remember we are poor little old Mississippi State, we must know our place. We should be thankful that we have been allowed to have a fairly decent baseball team over the years. But we should not expect to win any championships. State is in the SEC to provide wins for the big boys. When we have something working or good staff members it must be taken away so we will know our place. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell us how you really feel.

[Offshore Dawg]

Tell us how you really feel.

I know it sucks as a Dawg fan, but it just seems like when something good starts, things happen to knock the dawgs down. from recruiting to office personnel.

[Westdawg]

Could someone DM me what really went down with Mason?

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Is it true that Leach made the comment that we didn't need any more recruiting staff from what we have? Mainly because we had double what Wash. St. had and he felt like we didn't need any more because he's always had fewer.

[KOdawg1]

If we're ever going to compete in this league, we've got to get serious about recruiting. Our recruiting budget is ridiculous, and it shows that we're okay with mediocrity

[Ari Gold]

Is it true that Leach made the comment that we didn't need any more recruiting staff from what we have? Mainly because we had double what Wash. St. had and he felt like we didn't need any more because he's always had fewer.

No
Leach is who he is .. hopefully JC knew that when he hired him .
Leach may be a weird cat but he isn’t stupid..

[Ari Gold]

If we're ever going to compete in this league, we've got to get serious about recruiting. Our recruiting budget is ridiculous, and it shows that we're okay with mediocrity


100%

[Cooterpoot]

Could someone DM me what really went down with Mason?

He left. It wouldn't matter what we did, he was leaving. LSU is the one place he was going no matter what.

[MetEdDawg]

Jay Hopson from Horn Lake commits today:

https://247sports.com/player/jarnorris-hopson-46111529/

[Bothrops]

You need to remember we are poor little old Mississippi State, we must know our place. We should be thankful that we have been allowed to have a fairly decent baseball team over the years. But we should not expect to win any championships. State is in the SEC to provide wins for the big boys. When we have something working or good staff members it must be taken away so we will know our place. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pretty much. Everytime we take a step forward the competition takes three. The SEC money is great but it's also great for everybody else. We remain at the same spot on the list. Incredibly frustrating.

[Ari Gold]

He left. It wouldn't matter what we did, he was leaving. LSU is the one place he was going no matter what.

Again not 100% accurate.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Again not 100% accurate.

We weren't beating LSU for Mason without tripling what LSU offered.

[Ari Gold]

We weren't beating LSU for Mason without tripling what LSU offered.

Yeah hard to beat LSU for Mason when you don’t even try..

It wasn’t all about the money.. and they didn’t triple or even double his salary.

[Ari Gold]

Jay Hopson from Horn Lake commits today:

https://247sports.com/player/jarnorris-hopson-46111529/

Props to Coach McBath and Rod Gibson
Welcome to the Fam Jay Hop.

[sscjr1]

Yeah hard to beat LSU for Mason when you don’t even try..

It wasn’t all about the money.. and they didn’t triple or even double his salary.

That?s not what he said

[Ari Gold]

That?s not what he said

He tell you that personally?
And based on what he was making here I cant blame him for leaving. it was beyond laughable...

My final word on this is ..
Everyone that bitches and moans on why we don’t close or why we can’t land certain kids all circles back to the lack of effort we put into recruiting and recruiting guys we have on staff
Some didn’t see the importance of Pat Austin, you saw the results. Who do you think saw the importance and was big on getting Mason on this staff ? Pat Austin.
Go ask Rod Gibson how good this guy was. How many good contacts he had. How the kids and kids parents in the boot and Texas thought of him
Bottom line we dont have near enough guys like the Gibson’s and Smiths .. we don’t pay enough for these spots , we don’t value these positions..
And believe as much as Rod Gibson loves and bleeds maroon and white , if a school came after him with a little more cash don’t think he wouldn’t think long and hard about it

Money wasn’t the only factor in Mason leaving.. if we had countered offered with anything he would have at least listened and considered..

So again believe what you want I am basing all of this from one source.
I don’t care what Rosebowl reports , or what Pail Jones says, or a a certain coach on the staff tells someone , or even an ex staff member.

My info came from Mason Smith himself.

With that said we can get back to MSU recruiting..

[Cooterpoot]

He tell you that personally?
And based on what he was making here I cant blame him for leaving. it was beyond laughable...

My final word on this is ..
Everyone that bitches and moans on why we don?t close or why we can?t land certain kids all circles back to the lack of effort we put into recruiting and recruiting guys we have on staff
Some didn?t see the importance of Pat Austin, you saw the results. Who do you think saw the importance and was big on getting Mason on this staff ? Pat Austin.
Go ask Rod Gibson how good this guy was. How many good contacts he had. How the kids and kids parents in the boot and Texas thought of him
Bottom line we dont have near enough guys like the Gibson?s and Smiths .. we don?t pay enough for these spots , we don?t value these positions..
And believe as much as Rod Gibson loves and bleeds maroon and white , if a school came after him with a little more cash don?t think he wouldn?t think long and hard about it

Money wasn?t the only factor in Mason leaving.. if we had countered offered with anything he would have at least listened and considered..

So again believe what you want I am basing all of this from one source.
I don?t care what Rosebowl reports , or what Pail Jones says, or a a certain coach on the staff tells someone , or even an ex staff member.

My info came from Mason Smith himself.

With that said we can get back to MSU recruiting..

Our pay sucks. There's no debate there. Before Covid, we were banking $15M a year in our athletic dept. Now, that came in handy when Covid hit, but that's $15M we did nothing with that we could have. Pat was great, but he got himself in some trouble. Mama called Mason and he left. He'll have a bigger budget and more freedom to use it. He also might be under NCAA probation.

[sscjr1]

He tell you that personally?
And based on what he was making here I cant blame him for leaving. it was beyond laughable...

My final word on this is ..
Everyone that bitches and moans on why we don’t close or why we can’t land certain kids all circles back to the lack of effort we put into recruiting and recruiting guys we have on staff
Some didn’t see the importance of Pat Austin, you saw the results. Who do you think saw the importance and was big on getting Mason on this staff ? Pat Austin.
Go ask Rod Gibson how good this guy was. How many good contacts he had. How the kids and kids parents in the boot and Texas thought of him
Bottom line we dont have near enough guys like the Gibson’s and Smiths .. we don’t pay enough for these spots , we don’t value these positions..
And believe as much as Rod Gibson loves and bleeds maroon and white , if a school came after him with a little more cash don’t think he wouldn’t think long and hard about it

Money wasn’t the only factor in Mason leaving.. if we had countered offered with anything he would have at least listened and considered..

So again believe what you want I am basing all of this from one source.
I don’t care what Rosebowl reports , or what Pail Jones says, or a a certain coach on the staff tells someone , or even an ex staff member.

My info came from Mason Smith himself.

With that said we can get back to MSU recruiting..

Calm down. I meant that's not what IfYouOnlyKnew said. He said we weren't beating LSU for Mason without tripling what LSU offered.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Mason Miller sends out the signal. Who is it?

[Hambone]

This is really impressive considering most everyone said expect a recruiting lull at least until after some summer visits

[KOdawg1]

QB1????

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'd bet on it being Craycraft from Jesuit.

[sscjr1]

Rosebowl with the CB for Locke