2022 MSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING Discussion Thread

[bulldawg28]

Y'all can thank Leach, Arnett, Jaden Walley and KJ Wright for winning with Decarlos! I can't reiterate enough how hard leach and staff worked for this one! And my son worked Decarlos pretty hard too!

I know you helped. Great job!

[ShotgunDawg]

Y'all can thank Leach, Arnett, Jaden Walley and KJ Wright for winning with Decarlos! I can't reiterate enough how hard leach and staff worked for this one! And my son worked Decarlos pretty hard too!

KJ Wright?

What is his connection to DeCarlos?

[Commercecomet24]

Was McBath heavily involved?

Yes he was.

[Commercecomet24]

I know you helped. Great job!

Thanks I appreciate that but I had very little affect on this outcome, but I'm a very happy many today!

[Commercecomet24]

KJ Wright?

What is his connection to DeCarlos?

Coaches got him involved.

[KOdawg1]

Finish with Trevion Williams and Percy Lewis, and I'll be pleased.

Add any surprises to that and I'll be ecstatic

[ShotgunDawg]

Multiple Ole Miss sites are reporting that Clayton is flipping to MSU

[BrunswickDawg]

Coaches got him involved.

That's how you do it!

[Catfish]

Multiple Ole Miss sites are reporting that Clayton is flipping to MSU

We need this to happen.

[Santiago]

1. Oatis has not signed with Bama yet. Wonder if he is going TSUN?
2. Walley - We need him now to focus on getting his brother back to us...I know..just wishing.

[BeardoMSU]

Trevion Williams has signed.

[HancockCountyDog]

Trevion Williams has signed.

Solid finish. Much improved over last year.

[Catfish]

Trevion Williams has signed.

BOOM!!!!

[KOdawg1]

Boom. Trevion is the best DL in the state by far

[Cooterpoot]

Well, well, well
LOL

And we ain't done

[Cowbell]

Well, well, well
LOL

And we ain't done

Don't we still have a surprise?

[preachermatt83]

Well, well, well
LOL

And we ain't done

Yup!! Some folks bout to be shocked!

[preachermatt83]

Don't we still have a surprise?

Oh yea.

[Commercecomet24]

Well, well, well
LOL

And we ain't done

Yep

[Commercecomet24]

This staff is different yall.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Well, well, well
LOL

And we ain't done

Nobody bats .1000 in soap operas lol thanks for the info you bring.

[ScoobaDawg]

3303

[Westdawg]

Any word on when Percy Lewis announces his decision/signing?

[BayouDawg]

Any word on when Percy Lewis announces his decision/signing?

Supposed to be in the next few minutes I think.

[KOdawg1]

Any word on when Percy Lewis announces his decision/signing?

1:00

[Maverick91]

Man I'm beaming! I knew what we had to overcome to get him and it got done!

Good Stuff!

[bobcat91]

So far no word from Sledge, Pope, Thomas, Allen or Chambers. Lewis, Moore and Gilmore are supposed to announce in the next hour or so.

Hearing Allen may not sign today. Hope that news is wrong

[PMDawg]

Khalid signs at 1.

[bobcat91]

Also it's time to start a 2023 thread. We already have one commit

[dawgman15]

I thought sledge committed to Auburn a couple of days ago?

[ZedFedder]

Jacarius Clayton crystal balled to MSU by Steve and Paul.

[maroonmania]

So far no word from Sledge, Pope, Thomas, Allen or Chambers. Lewis, Moore and Gilmore are supposed to announce in the next hour or so.

Hearing Allen may not sign today. Hope that news is wrong

Sledge has signed.

[Heydawg]

Percy Lewis signed per Robbie

[KOdawg1]

Andddd with that, today is a success.

Anything else will be gravy. I suspect we're getting some gravy.

[BeardoMSU]

Andddd with that, today is a success.

Anything else will be gravy. I suspect we're getting some gravy.

who will be the surprise?

[Catfish]

Good day guys, good day!

[Cowbell]

Good day guys, good day!

Yes sir, yes sir it is

[Bdawg]

Yes! Lewis, Nicholson, and Williams were the 3 musts for a successful day along with all the others. Good job so far coaches.

[KOdawg1]

who will be the surprise?

Clayton

[Ari Gold]

all the glass half empty guys can all step away from the keyboard and go enjoy the rest of their Wednesday

Congrats and solid day for this staff.. let’s close a few portal guys in some key positions and it will be a success..

[Heydawg]

Do we know when Khalid Moore, Zavion Thomas, and Javae Gilmore are supposed to be signing?

[Cooterpoot]

Andddd with that, today is a success.

Anything else will be gravy. I suspect we're getting some gravy.

Gone be some mater gravy. We ain't done just yet.
Then, we start on the portal guys. Currently, sitting just outside top 20. It's ok to be happy!

[Heydawg]

Nvm, I just saw Moore has signed w us

[dstatechamps]

Clayton

When is Clayton supposed to announce?

[KOdawg1]

When is Clayton supposed to announce?

3:30

[BearcatBully]

Steve with the Jolly Roger flying.

[Commercecomet24]

Gone be some mater gravy. We ain't done just yet.
Then, we start on the portal guys. Currently, sitting just outside top 20. It's ok to be happy!

Our folks are doing work with this NIL stuff. We're playing the game!

[KOdawg1]

Not a lot of star power in our class, but according to Paul Jones, 12 out of our 15 signees are ranked 88 and higher by 247sports. So well over half our signees are within a point or two of being a 4 star.

[HoopsDawg]

Not a lot of star power in our class, but according to Paul Jones, 12 out of our 15 signees are ranked 88 and higher by 247sports. So well over half our signees are within a point or two of being a 4 star.

Yep, not a flashy class. I really like Trevion Williams and Dinkins though.

[ShotgunDawg]

Yep, not a flashy class. I really like Trevion Williams and Dinkins though.

Not a flashy class but a ton of substance. Our We're going to have half or more of our class being ranked 88 or higher by 247.

When you think about the fact that 89-90 is the 4 star level, you're talking about class that, if a little underrated, would be well over half 4 stars.

We need to land a few more elite, difference makers, but this level of recruiting will ensure that we're pretty good at every position on the field.

If Leach is a top coach, these types of classes should lead to a lot of winning

[Catfish]

Dang good so far. Proud of these coaches and everyone else involved. Hail State!

[BeardoMSU]

Steve with the Jolly Roger flying.

Who for?

[Cooterpoot]

Who for?

😎🎉 numero uno

[Leroy Jenkins]

Percy Lewis signed per Robbie

I see a slower, stiffer, clumsier Damien Robinson. But for the sake of MSU football I hope he is Jackie Slater reincarnated.

[KOdawg1]

This class more than anything fills needs.

-We needed an older CB: Insert DeCarlos Nicholson

-We needed an older T: Insert Percy Lewis

-We needed some LBs due to some transferring out: Insert Khalid Moore, Avery Sledge, Javae Gilmore

-We have a well balanced DL class mixed with pass rushers and pluggers

-We have a very solid WR class

-We got a very good QB to add to the room

Now, we hit the portal for a veteran CB, maybe a safety, another OT, and a kicker. Kudos to the staff for getting it done.

[Commercecomet24]

This class more than anything fills needs.

-We needed an older CB: Insert DeCarlos Nicholson

-We needed an older T: Insert Percy Lewis

-We needed some LBs due to some transferring out: Insert Khalid Moore, Avery Sledge, Javae Gilmore

-We have a well balanced DL class mixed with pass rushers and pluggers

-We have a very solid WR class

-We got a very good QB to add to the room

Now, we hit the portal for a veteran CB, maybe a safety, another OT, and a kicker. Kudos to the staff for getting it done.

You nailed it. One of our most balanced classes ever

[Cooterpoot]

I see a slower, stiffer, clumsier Damien Robinson. But for the sake of MSU football I hope he is Jackie Slater reincarnated.

SMH

[Leroy Jenkins]

SMH

You can "SMH" all you want.

[Bothrops]

Boom. Trevion is the best DL in the state by far

Can't be, he's only a 77 on espn....

[Leroy Jenkins]

Dang good so far. Proud of these coaches and everyone else involved. Hail State!

Me too. I like where we are right now much more than what I was prepared for. Whew.

[Leroy Jenkins]

The more I watch Gilmore the better he gets. The kid is dang good at football.

[Commercecomet24]

We've added speed on both sides of the ball too and that's huge!

Decarlos is the fastest kid I've ever coached and I've had some fast kids. Decarlos stole home one time and he slid past the plate before the pitch even got there. Now it was a left handed pitcher and in windup but still, blazing fast kid. His speed is legit and not just speed he's extremely agile loose hips and he's at full speed on first step. Also he's long he's not 6'3" either he's over 6'4".

[Bdawg]

We've added speed on both sides of the ball too and that's huge!

Decarlos is the fastest kid I've ever coached and I've had some fast kids. Decarlos stole home one time and he slid past the plate before the pitch even got there. Now it was a left handed pitcher and in windup but still, blazing fast kid. His speed is legit and not just speed he's extremely agile loose hips and he's at full speed on first step. Also he's long he's not 6'3" either he's over 6'4".

That's awesome. Sounds underrated with that size and speed. If only Bama offered***

[Cooterpoot]

And there's surprise #1. Clayton is back in the boat.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

We got everybody we expected. We got all the toss ups. We got a flip. Has this ever happened?

[Commercecomet24]

That's awesome. Sounds underrated with that size and speed. If only Bama offered***

And he's a hard working kid with great manners and attitude. Yes sir, no sir young man. Great family. They were all In maroon and white today and ringing cowbells. Extremely coachable. He'll be an nfl corner barring injury

[Commercecomet24]

We got everybody we expected. We got all the toss ups. We got a flip. Has this ever happened?

New sherriff in town. All that "leach doesn't recruit stuff" is a myth.

[ScoobaDawg]

Now we wait to hear about Ajay Allen, Tyrese Chambers (transfer)...and ?
With Clayton in the boat that makes 18. Thomas, Pope, and Moss will come between jan and feb signing days so that puts up at 21 before any portal players come in.

Now the real fun starts...

[TrapGame]

New sherriff in town. All that "leach doesn't recruit stuff" is a myth.

Seeing as the recruiting profiles of both WSU and Tech jumped 20 spots while he was there I'd say that's very true. Now he's at a program where just jumping 10 spots from the norm puts us in undiscovered country.

[HoopsDawg]

Now we wait to hear about Ajay Allen, Tyrese Chambers (transfer)...and ?
With Clayton in the boat that makes 18. Thomas, Pope, and Moss will come between jan and feb signing days so that puts up at 21 before any portal players come in.

Now the real fun starts...

30% of all signees today will enter the transfer portal. Portal is where to make hay. Need to find some instact impact guys.

[bulldawg28]

We've added speed on both sides of the ball too and that's huge!

Decarlos is the fastest kid I've ever coached and I've had some fast kids. Decarlos stole home one time and he slid past the plate before the pitch even got there. Now it was a left handed pitcher and in windup but still, blazing fast kid. His speed is legit and not just speed he's extremely agile loose hips and he's at full speed on first step. Also he's long he's not 6'3" either he's over 6'4".

Over 6'4?....sheeeshhh.

[bobcat91]

And there's surprise #1. Clayton is back in the boat.

Is there another surprise coming?

[ScoobaDawg]

Seeing as the recruiting profiles of both WSU and Tech jumped 20 spots while he was there I'd say that's very true. Now he's at a program where just jumping 10 spots from the norm puts us in undiscovered country.

As Paul mentioned... very happy with the players we got. 2 4* and 5 more 3* that are all ranked 88 or above but just below the threshold for 4*. (89)

[Catfish]

Good day to be a Dawg!

[KOdawg1]

Now we wait to hear about Ajay Allen, Tyrese Chambers (transfer)...and ?
With Clayton in the boat that makes 18. Thomas, Pope, and Moss will come between jan and feb signing days so that puts up at 21 before any portal players come in.

Now the real fun starts...

Marcus Banks, the Bama transfer CB still is out there and will decide towards the end of the week. He's a big need.

[Cooterpoot]

Is there another surprise coming?

Oh, we aren't done.

[bulldawg28]

Oh, we aren't done.

Coot, I give it to you. You had some Intel with these kids signing. Great stuff.

[Bdawg]

Now we wait to hear about Ajay Allen, Tyrese Chambers (transfer)...and ?
With Clayton in the boat that makes 18. Thomas, Pope, and Moss will come between jan and feb signing days so that puts up at 21 before any portal players come in.

Now the real fun starts...

So have Thomas, Pope and Moss signed? Why the wait?

[KOdawg1]

So have Thomas, Pope and Moss signed? Why the wait?

Thomas and Pope have already signed and are just waiting to announce it with their teammates. Moss hasn't signed because of grades, but he's expected to qualify.

[Bdawg]

So how do we feel about Banks? How many years does he have?

[Bdawg]

Oh, we aren't done.

People that have been on our radar or surprises?

[Bdawg]

Thomas and Pope have already signed and are just waiting to announce it with their teammates. Moss hasn't signed because of grades, but he's expected to qualify.

Cool. Thanks. Are they counted in our rankings yet?

[KOdawg1]

Cool. Thanks. Are they counted in our rankings yet?

Yes, because they're commits, they are.

[Turfdawg67]

And there's surprise #1. Clayton is back in the boat.

If you get a chance tell the story on Clayton. I don't recall seeing his name, at least in a long while.

[Tater]

Hearing we may be showing interest in Temple transfer WR Jadan Blue. Has anyone else heard anything on him?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Leach cant recruit

[BuckyIsAB****]

And he's a hard working kid with great manners and attitude. Yes sir, no sir young man. Great family. They were all In maroon and white today and ringing cowbells. Extremely coachable. He'll be an nfl corner barring injury

Nicholson is a baller. He impressed me so much at Petal. He is a winner. Biggest steal of the class. He will play for a long long time

[Goldendawg]

Has Clayton signed with us? 24/7 shows he's only committed.

[Commercecomet24]

Nicholson is a baller. He impressed me so much at Petal. He is a winner. Biggest steal of the class. He will play for a long long time

Yes he is. He's a winner and a leader.

[Commercecomet24]

Leach cant recruit

Lol right!

[Cooterpoot]

If you get a chance tell the story on Clayton. I don't recall seeing his name, at least in a long while.

He's just a kid that always wanted to be at State. Give he and his parents credit for working through the process.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Yes he is. He's a winner and a leader.

That first attribute you listed is by and large the most important thing.

I could care less about height weight offer list stats, is he a winner? Some people can see them and some cant. Nicholson is a winner in my book I saw all I needed to see in 2 games

[Commercecomet24]

That first attribute you listed is by and large the most important thing.

I could care less about height weight offer list stats, is he a winner? Some people can see them and some cant. Nicholson is a winner in my book I saw all I needed to see in 2 games

You said a mouthful man! Absolutely right. You either have it or you don't!

[MetEdDawg]

So obviously we are going to hit the portal and fill some needs. What all do we have left from the high school side?

Ajay Allen still seems like a possibility. Is Riley Quick an option as he went unsigned? Is Elam in the mix at all?

Just wonder from the high school side what we will look at and what options are available.

[Cooterpoot]

Allen, yes. Elam and Quick, no.
Doubt we grab another HS kid beyond Allen and those commits signing later unless I'm just forgetting someone. Portal is about to get crae crae! OL, DB, K, WR are leading the way. Hopefully we get some good news soon.

[ShotgunDawg]

Allen, yes. Elam and Quick, no.
Doubt we grab another HS kid beyond Allen and those commits signing later unless I'm just forgetting someone. Portal is about to get crae crae! OL, DB, K, WR are leading the way. Hopefully we get some good news soon.

Any feel today for what Allen might do?

[bobcat91]

Any feel today for what Allen might do?

If he signs today or tomorrow it will be with us. If he waits until February he is gone

[Turfdawg67]

If he signs today or tomorrow it will be with us. If he waits until February he is gone

Someone said he was holding out on an LSU offer and that TCU went with their plan B. I guess we are now Allen's plan B.

[ShotgunDawg]

Someone said he was holding out on an LSU offer and that TCU went with their plan B. I guess we are now Allen's plan B.

That's every Louisiana kid. Hopefully he sees the light in the next day or so & signs.

[confucius say]

What portal OL are in the mix?

[Captain Falcon]

What portal OL are in the mix?

Mason Brooks from Western Kentucky is one to keep an eye on. First team All-CUSA guy and they ran the Air Raid this year. Seems like he'd be a natural fit. I think we are actively pursuing him, not sure on return interest.

[sscjr1]

Apparently he has family in Starkville

[Todd4State]

Allen, yes. Elam and Quick, no.
Doubt we grab another HS kid beyond Allen and those commits signing later unless I'm just forgetting someone. Portal is about to get crae crae! OL, DB, K, WR are leading the way. Hopefully we get some good news soon.

We need another high school corner. Or someone next class that can come in and play pretty quickly.

[ZedFedder]

What is the outlook on Treyveon Longmire? He seems like he would be a good pickup. Isn’t he suppose to visit?

[Cooterpoot]

What is the outlook on Treyveon Longmire? He seems like he would be a good pickup. Isn’t he suppose to visit?

Had some poor showings this year. No need to grab him this early. There's a reason KY didn't take him.

[662dawg]

Had some poor showings this year. No need to grab him this early. There's a reason KY didn't take him.

He looks like a guy I?d take a chance on with his height, speed & athleticism.

[Cooterpoot]

He looks like a guy I?d take a chance on with his height, speed & athleticism.

No point in taking chances with a couple months left. We're on some other guys too. Long way to go, lots of guys available.

[Tripp McNeely]

He looks like a guy I?d take a chance on with his height, speed & athleticism.

Gotta see what Terrell does first

[662dawg]

No point in taking chances with a couple months left. We're on some other guys too. Long way to go, lots of guys available.

Great point.

[662dawg]

Gotta see what Terrell does first

Who is Terrell?

[Tripp McNeely]

Who is Terrell?

https://247sports.com/player/khamari-terrell-46117828/

[662dawg]

https://247sports.com/player/khamari-terrell-46117828/

Ok I?m sold 😎

[KOdawg1]

Marcus Banks commits!

I'll eat crow on McBath. I said he needed to land Nicholson and Banks, and he went and did it. Outstanding job.

[Cooterpoot]

Not done yet. Portal is rolling! Wooooo!

[bulldawg28]

Niceeee!

[Cooterpoot]

https://i.postimg.cc/jdrD3yd1/8-BAC9863-4-B6-E-4-D5-F-BE1-B-3552-DD13-CF1-B.jpg

[Ari Gold]

See post 1391...
Boom.. keep doing work Coach Wash...

[Catfish]

Just because a beat writer from Miami is pushing the narrative on Banks to the canes let?s all not over react .. he may go there but he and his fam just left Starkville less than 24 hours ago..
and according to my source ( who is a coach on staff ) it went good and we like our chances,,

Good call!!!!

[Cooterpoot]

It's Coming
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[Bdawg]

It's Coming
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I'm hoping kicker or OT!! Can you say anymore?

[Cooterpoot]

I'm hoping kicker or OT!! Can you say anymore?

Neither

[Bdawg]

Neither

When can we expect this NOT kicker or tackle?? Ha

[Cooterpoot]

After our portal haul, we're going to be well inside the top 20 classes overall.

[KOdawg1]

Neither
Foster?

[Leroy Jenkins]

https://twitter.com/bthackery35/status/1473288894154215431

[Cooterpoot]

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[Bdawg]

After our portal haul, we're going to be well inside the top 20 classes overall.

247 already had us at 17 before Banks I believe. Screw grouping ESPN in the composite.

[ZedFedder]

Call me a homer, but I feel we are in a better position for the future than OM.

[Catfish]

Call me a homer, but I feel we are in a better position for the future than OM.

You called it, I don't think anyone was expecting this kind of recruiting. Several guys on here have said how involved Leach and the coaches were with these young men. I'm sure NIL helped and maybe the deciding factor. Don't care, one of the best years we've had and we're not done.

[ZedFedder]

You called it, I don't think anyone was expecting this kind of recruiting. Several guys on here have said how involved Leach and the coaches were with these young men. I'm sure NIL helped and maybe the deciding factor. Don't care, one of the best years we've had and we're not done.

We will see next year how they do without Corral. I think he may have been the best player in the country this year besides Will Anderson. Could you imagine Corral with Alabama's receivers? No doubt Kiffin has them rolling, but portal and recruiting wise, State is surpassing Ole Miss. Add on top of that they are missing on a lot of portal QBs...

[MetEdDawg]

I made this statement a few months ago and I think we are seeing the product of that.

Leach did one major thing that our previous coaches couldn't do. He beat ranked teams. What I said a few months ago was that not all 7-5 or 8-4 seasons are created equal. Mullen beat a lot of unranked teams in his time at MSU and it never moved the needle for us really. We would lose to ranked teams, never have momentum, and never play good teams well.

The reality is that people recognized the quality of our wins this year more than the pain of our losses because we beat good teams and never got blown out except for Bama. The playoff committee even proved that by how they ranked us late in the season.

Beat good teams and people notice you. Recruits notice. Pollsters notice and if you beat a ranked team you are practically guaranteed an ESPN highlight spot. Leach might lose the head scratcher every so often. But if you want to bring in talent, you can afford to lose those games every now and again if you constantly beat some good teams. Then eventually the talent gap gets big enough to where you don't lose those head scratchers.

I think we are seeing the effect of a solid staff from a recruiting standpoint doing some things on the field we haven't done before. Consistently be in games and beat some ranked teams. Leach did well in year 2 with a young roster. Now can we take this recruiting and parlay that into better consistency.

[Hambone]

If you want to get really excited look at Texas Tech and Washington State in year three of Leach. Next year could be a really fun year!

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If you want to get really excited look at Texas Tech and Washington State in year three of Leach. Next year could be a really fun year!

Texas Tech yes (9-5) Washington St no (3-9)

[Jarius]

Texas Tech yes (9-5) Washington St no (3-9)

If I’m not mistaken the Washington State offense was better in year 3 than it was in year 2 but they were awful on defense that year. I don’t think that will be an issue for us.

[662dawg]

I made this statement a few months ago and I think we are seeing the product of that.

Leach did one major thing that our previous coaches couldn't do. He beat ranked teams. What I said a few months ago was that not all 7-5 or 8-4 seasons are created equal. Mullen beat a lot of unranked teams in his time at MSU and it never moved the needle for us really. We would lose to ranked teams, never have momentum, and never play good teams well.

The reality is that people recognized the quality of our wins this year more than the pain of our losses because we beat good teams and never got blown out except for Bama. The playoff committee even proved that by how they ranked us late in the season.

Beat good teams and people notice you. Recruits notice. Pollsters notice and if you beat a ranked team you are practically guaranteed an ESPN highlight spot. Leach might lose the head scratcher every so often. But if you want to bring in talent, you can afford to lose those games every now and again if you constantly beat some good teams. Then eventually the talent gap gets big enough to where you don't lose those head scratchers.

I think we are seeing the effect of a solid staff from a recruiting standpoint doing some things on the field we haven't done before. Consistently be in games and beat some ranked teams. Leach did well in year 2 with a young roster. Now can we take this recruiting and parlay that into better consistency.

Great post

[ZedFedder]

If I’m not mistaken the Washington State offense was better in year 3 than it was in year 2 but they were awful on defense that year. I don’t think that will be an issue for us.

Think you are right.

[Hambone]

Texas Tech yes (9-5) Washington St no (3-9)

Offensively yes, yes it was.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Offensively yes, yes it was.

Well by that logic the offense was worse in Year 3 at Tech than Year 2. As long as we can grab a quality portal OT I expect a good offense.

[Hambone]

I agree with that as well. The offense will definitely hinge on giving Rogers time

[Catfish]

Kind of excited about next year. Tough schedule.

[Jarius]

Kind of excited about next year. Tough schedule.

Outside of 2014, our up years always seem to line up with a more difficult schedule than average. The sec is always tough but drawing Georgia and now having Kentucky on the road with them recruiting like a semi blue blood sucks.

[Catfish]

Outside of 2014, our up years always seem to line up with a more difficult schedule than average. The sec is always tough but drawing Georgia and now having Kentucky on the road with them recruiting like a semi blue blood sucks.

Should be interesting. We recruited fairly well ourselves.

[TrapGame]

There's gonna be another wave of players hitting the portal after the bowl games. Get ready.

[Catfish]

There's gonna be another wave of players hitting the portal after the bowl games. Get ready.

Hoping Santa delivers some good ones.

[Hot Rock]

Allen, yes. Elam and Quick, no.
Doubt we grab another HS kid beyond Allen and those commits signing later unless I'm just forgetting someone. Portal is about to get crae crae! OL, DB, K, WR are leading the way. Hopefully we get some good news soon.

I am hoping to get as many as possible especially a safety and tackle in for the spring if we hope to use them this fall. I had not thought about a WR even being a need but if you can improve you do it.

Getting that kicker in would be nice but mostly just to see what we have to ease our minds. I doubt it makes that much difference getting him in early for his performance ability. I have never really seen kickers develop, they either have "it" or not.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

The only position that's really needed in the spring imo would be an OL or QB. Everybody else could be here in the summer & be fine. We brought in 4 transfers last year & only 1 was here for spring.

[Hot Rock]

The only position that's really needed in the spring imo would be an OL or QB. Everybody else could be here in the summer & be fine. We brought in 4 transfers last year & only 1 was here for spring.

Only Calvin missed the spring. I looked at the spring game roster, they were all here.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/EzHIZ_rVIBc0cF1.jpg

I am sure a more veteran guy can make the transition better but those extra reps for a safety has to help them if they are coming from a different coverage package.

[Cowbell]

Is there anyway Mingo transfers out? Heard rumors but figure they are unwarranted

[Tater]

Is there anyway Mingo transfers out? Heard rumors but figure they are unwarranted

Outside of this board I've been told by multiple people that it's a done deal he isn't returning. One says he's a heavy lean to us and the other said they didn't feel confident in predicting.

But then again I had four (albeit different than these two) people independently tell me that Marcus Banks was announcing to Miami on Christmas Eve. So gotta remember these are young men in a changing time.

[Cowbell]

Outside of this board I've been told by multiple people that it's a done deal he isn't returning. One says he's a heavy lean to us and the other said they didn't feel confident in predicting.

But then again I had four (albeit different than these two) people independently tell me that Marcus Banks was announcing to Miami on Christmas Eve. So gotta remember these are young men in a changing time.

Thanks for the info. Would love to see him and Will back together

[DCdawg]

Anybody got an update on the receivers coach opening? I thought Leach was waiting until after signing day but it looks like he's waiting until after the bowl game.

[Tater]

Anybody got an update on the receivers coach opening? I thought Leach was waiting until after signing day but it looks like he's waiting until after the bowl game.

Only asst. coach news that I've heard is that Phelps is on OU's shortlist for DL coaches. But not at the top.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

The only position that's really needed in the spring imo would be an OL or QB. Everybody else could be here in the summer & be fine. We brought in 4 transfers last year & only 1 was here for spring.

I think Lashley, Polk, and Green were here in the spring. Maybe Calvin wasn’t? I can’t remember.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Is there anyway Mingo transfers out? Heard rumors but figure they are unwarranted

There is a shot. When he got hurt there was a very good shot but when he was able to come back and play I think it helped him to settle in a bit. But do not think for a second that he does not want to come play with Will again. A lot of it will have to do with who OM wants to play QB

[BuckyIsAB****]

Anybody got an update on the receivers coach opening? I thought Leach was waiting until after signing day but it looks like he's waiting until after the bowl game.

Hollingshead current quality control or Chad Bumphis

[calidawg]

The only position that's really needed in the spring imo would be an OL or QB. Everybody else could be here in the summer & be fine. We brought in 4 transfers last year & only 1 was here for spring.

Why do we need a QB?

[Catfish]

Why do we need a QB?

Agree!

[ShotgunDawg]

Why do we need a QB?

Because we need some competition.

I've accepted that Will is pretty good, but we're going to be starting two new tackles next season, against the nation's best pass rushers, & we don't have a QB that moves very well. That's just not a formula for 10+ wins, which is absolutely what we should be shooting for.

No matter how excited we are about next season, there is an absolute ceiling to this team, that is likely below where we want it, unless we get a QB that can move & extend plays when our tackles are beat.

Again, this isn't to say Will isn't good. With a clean pocket, you'd be hard pressed to find better, but clean pockets are going to be hard to come by in some of our bigger games.

I'm not freaking out & saying this is a MUST HAVE or that Will isn't capable of being really really good, but, if the staff is smart, they'll keep an eye out if the right opportunity presents itself. I'm also curious to see what Sawyer looks like in the Spring

[662dawg]

Why do we need a QB?

I don?t think he?s saying we need a QB, I think he?s saying in general that QB & OL are the two positions that are most important to get in early to get work in & the others are way easier to catch up & be ready to play by the start of the season. This is how I interpreted his post anyways.

[Catfish]

Because we need some competition.

I've accepted that Will is pretty good, but we're going to be starting two new tackles next season, against the nation's best pass rushers, & we don't have a QB that moves very well. That's just not a formula for 10+ wins, which is absolutely what we should be shooting for.

No matter how excited we are about next season, there is an absolute ceiling to this team, that is likely below where we want it, unless we get a QB that can move & extend plays when our tackles are beat.

Again, this isn't to say Will isn't good. With a clean pocket, you'd be hard pressed to find better, but clean pockets are going to be hard to come by in some of our bigger games.

I'm not freaking out & saying this is a MUST HAVE or that Will isn't capable of being really really good, but, if the staff is smart, they'll keep an eye out if the right opportunity presents itself. I'm also curious to see what Sawyer looks like in the Spring

What about Locke, is he that type of quarterback?

[ShotgunDawg]

What about Locke, is he that type of quarterback?

More so than Will yes. We need a little more mobility, but Sawyer & Locke provide more than Will.

Again, not downing Will as much as I'm just speaking a small weakness that is likely going to prevent us from having a chance to win a few games. Doesn't mean we can't be really good.

I'm not saying that this person would start over Will. Maybe Will could be our full time starter, but, if we can't block Will Anderson next year, then maybe we should bring a more mobile QB to see if they can create something rather than giving up 10 sacks

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I don?t think he?s saying we need a QB, I think he?s saying in general that QB & OL are the two positions that are most important to get in early to get work in & the others are way easier to catch up & be ready to play by the start of the season. This is how I interpreted his post anyways.

This & thank you

[Bothrops]

Why do we need a QB?

We don't unless Leach wants to change what he wants in a qb.

[FriarsPoint]

Back up here. I don’t remember seeing anything official that Spurrier is gone. What did I miss?

[DCdawg]

Back up here. I don?t remember seeing anything official that Spurrier is gone. What did I miss?

Not Spurrier. Inside receivers coach, Dave Nichol, left.

[ShotgunDawg]

We don't unless Leach wants to change what he wants in a qb.

So you don't think Leach wants a QB that can avoid being T boned by the pass & buy a little more time for WRs to get open? Is that what you're saying? He doesn't want a guy that can do that?

[662dawg]

So you don't think Leach wants a QB that can avoid being T boned by the pass & buy a little more time for WRs to get open? Is that what you're saying? He doesn't want a guy that can do that?

I get what you?re saying, but to you?re wanting to find the ?perfect? QB. Someone with great mobility added to Will?s skill set would be a near ?perfect? Quarterback.

I?m don?t think Bill Belichek or Bruce Arians would ever trade Tom Brady for Russell Wilson at any point in their careers.

[ShotgunDawg]

I get what you?re saying, but to you?re wanting to find the ?perfect? QB. Someone with great mobility added to Will?s skill set would be a near ?perfect? Quarterback.

I?m don?t think Bill Belichek or Bruce Arians would ever trade Tom Brady for Russell Wilson at any point in their careers.

I don’t think at all. Sawyer Robertson may be athletic enough to do it. Baker Mayfield was a walk on that could do it. Minshew could do it

I think it’s out there, but just hard to find.

[Hambone]

QB has 2nd best SEC season of all time yardage wise……

State Fans: Yea, but we could do better……

[Cowbell]

QB has 2nd best SEC season of all time yardage wise??

State Fans: Yea, but we could do better??
Also the same fans who thought Will was trash to start the season. Some people need to refrain from making talent assessments until they get a few right

[vv83]

Also the same fans who thought Will was trash to start the season. Some people need to refrain from making talent assessments until they get a few right
….he was trash to start the season. Then he turned it around after LSU and had a great season. Jesus you guys are so soft

[Cowbell]

?.he was trash to start the season. Then he turned it around after LSU and had a great season. Jesus you guys are so soft

He was not anywhere close to trash. He was young and still growing up. Thanks for proving my point. Some of you guys cant tell the difference between lack of maturity and experience and a lack of talent. Also, learn what soft means. Having a difference of opinion is not soft.

[BuckyIsAB****]

More so than Will yes. We need a little more mobility, but Sawyer & Locke provide more than Will.

Again, not downing Will as much as I'm just speaking a small weakness that is likely going to prevent us from having a chance to win a few games. Doesn't mean we can't be really good.

I'm not saying that this person would start over Will. Maybe Will could be our full time starter, but, if we can't block Will Anderson next year, then maybe we should bring a more mobile QB to see if they can create something rather than giving up 10 sacks

None of them will ever play over Will. We have done this before. Sawyer may never play a snap here. He has gotten better but it is not even close. We need a QB for depth. Lovertich is way ahead of the others so I will let you take what you want from that

[vv83]

He was not anywhere close to trash. He was young and still growing up. Thanks for proving my point. Some of you guys cant tell the difference between lack of maturity and experience and a lack of talent. Also, learn what soft means. Having a difference of opinion is not soft.
I’m sorry man, he was bad to start the year. Your point doesn’t even make sense. You can have all the talent in the world and if you can’t apply it to the field you’re trash. That’s like saying every 5 star with talent that doesn’t pan out can’t be trash, doesn’t even make sense. Will figured it out and had a great second half of the season and he’s going to do it again next season. Doesn’t mean you have to pretend he wasn’t ready earlier, he was a true sophomore after a Covid year it makes sense he had a ton of trouble getting up to speed.

[vv83]

None of them will ever play over Will. We have done this before. Sawyer may never play a snap here. He has gotten better but it is not even close. We need a QB for depth. Lovertich is way ahead of the others so I will let you take what you want from that

Agree here, I don’t think Sawyer ever sees the field. I hope we get a stud this class, sit 2 seasons behind Will then take over

[bulldawg28]

Will weighs 175 lbs. He's one play away from injury. We should always have a Qb ready. Every position has competition the Qb should be no different.

[ShotgunDawg]

None of them will ever play over Will. We have done this before. Sawyer may never play a snap here. He has gotten better but it is not even close. We need a QB for depth. Lovertich is way ahead of the others so I will let you take what you want from that

We need someone that can move or else we’ll need NFL tackles to compete for the West no matter how great Will is between the ears, accuracy, or leadership wise.

I really like Will. I’m sure you’ll take what I’m saying as a negative, but I’m just speaking truth. There are a few teams that I don’t think his skill set gives us any chance of beating.

I’d love to be wrong, but I’m struggling to logically think how he’s going to overcome that limitation.

[TorpedoIPA]

We need someone that can move or else we?ll need NFL tackles to compete for the West no matter how great Will is between the ears, accuracy, or leadership wise.

I really like Will. I?m sure you?ll take what I?m saying as a negative, but I?m just speaking truth. There are a few teams that I don?t think his skill set gives us any chance of beating.

I?d love to be wrong, but I?m struggling to logically think how he?s going to overcome that limitation.
Not to worry. Why do you think many teams drop 8 instead of blitzing ? I think Leach knows how many seconds Rodgers should take to get rid of the ball.

Also, Rodgers experience will pay off. You don't want him injured running the ball.

[Tripp McNeely]

Will weighs 175 lbs. He's one play away from injury. We should always have a Qb ready. Every position has competition the Qb should be no different.

Bro, Will is 200+ lbs, and when was the last time he was knocked out of a game...if ever??

[BuckyIsAB****]

Will weighs 175 lbs. He's one play away from injury. We should always have a Qb ready. Every position has competition the Qb should be no different.

He weighs about 205-210 and that is all they will ever let him weigh

[BuckyIsAB****]

We need someone that can move or else we’ll need NFL tackles to compete for the West no matter how great Will is between the ears, accuracy, or leadership wise.

I really like Will. I’m sure you’ll take what I’m saying as a negative, but I’m just speaking truth. There are a few teams that I don’t think his skill set gives us any chance of beating.

I’d love to be wrong, but I’m struggling to logically think how he’s going to overcome that limitation.

I guess the same way Minshew and Harrel did.

It is never going to come down to just Will when it comes to beating Bama

[bulldawg28]

He weighs about 205-210 and that is all they will ever let him weigh

Ain't no way he's 200 lbs. He's tiny

[bulldawg28]

Bro, Will is 200+ lbs, and when was the last time he was knocked out of a game...if ever??

I'm not saying he'll get knocked out of a game. I'm saying he's light in the pants.

[ShotgunDawg]

I guess the same way Minshew and Harrel did.

It is never going to come down to just Will when it comes to beating Bama

Minshew is more mobile than Will, but furthermore, I don't recall Minshew or Harrell winning anything.

Not to mention that the SEC has By far the best and most great pass rushers in college football. Minshew and Harrell didn't have to deal with the competition Will does.

Again, I love Will. Makes me sad that some think he's a perfect player and im forced to point out the obvious area that he and we need to improve.

[Cowbell]

Minshew is more mobile than Will, but furthermore, I don't recall Minshew or Harrell winning anything.

Not to mention that the SEC has By far the best and most great pass rushers in college football. Minshew and Harrell didn't have to deal with the competition Will does.

Again, I love Will. Makes me sad that some think he's a perfect player and im forced to point out the obvious area that he and we need to improve.

I thought it was sad that most of the season you thought he was the weakest link and talked about him like he stole your girlfriend. You are not qualified at this point to be pointing out talent issues. You even admitted you were wrong. And now you are suddenly an expert on judging Will again, how about just hope that he continues to improve on his weaknesses like our last great QB did.

[preachermatt83]

Some of you are just not very intelligent. A qb with the accuracy of will but who is also mobile is going to be a 5 star stud and he ain’t coming state. Geez. Be thankful we have will.

[preachermatt83]

I thought it was sad that most of the season you thought he was the weakest link and talked about him like he stole your girlfriend. You are not qualified at this point to be pointing out talent issues. You even admitted you were wrong. And now you are suddenly an expert on judging Will again, how about just hope that he continues to improve on his weaknesses like our last great QB did.

Have to agree here

[Cowbell]

Have to agree here
People are never satisfied. There ain't a kid like we want in the nfl right now lol

[MetEdDawg]

QB recruiting is a crap shoot at best. If you go back and look at recruiting rankings, while there are some hits in the Top 10 QBs in each class, there are a lot of misses too. Let's look at 2017 24/7 QB recruiting rankings as these guys should be seniors or already in the NFL:

1. Davis Mills - Stanford
2. Hunter Johnson - Clemson
3. Tua Tagovailoa - Bama
4. Jake Fromm - Georgia
5.Tate Martell - Ohio State
6. Jack Sears - USC
7. Kellen Mond - Texas A&M
8. Sam Ehlinger - Texas
9. Dylan McCaffrey - Michigan
10. Myles Brennan - LSU

Now let's look outside the top 10:

29. Mac Jones - Bama
48. Kenny Pickett - Pitt

Now here's a link to the 2020 24/7 QB rankings. Same class Will Rogers came out of. https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&PositionGroup=QB

There's maybe 3 QBs on that list that right now I would be like yes please trade me that guy to replace Will Rogers right now.

I think QB recruiting is very interesting. There are some guys like Bryce Young that transcend a type of offense. They can do whatever you ask of them. Bryce Young and CJ Stroud from 2020 fit that mold. But I believe QB is a fit more than a talent for 98% of schools. Will right now is a perfect fit for us.

[Catfish]

You said it, Will is perfect for us. Because of Covid he will be a sophomore next year. We're going to be just fine.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Ain't no way he's 200 lbs. He's tiny

Well I hate to tell you brotha. But he is

[BuckyIsAB****]

Minshew is more mobile than Will, but furthermore, I don't recall Minshew or Harrell winning anything.

Not to mention that the SEC has By far the best and most great pass rushers in college football. Minshew and Harrell didn't have to deal with the competition Will does.

Again, I love Will. Makes me sad that some think he's a perfect player and im forced to point out the obvious area that he and we need to improve.

The argument was to beat certain teams, like Bama etc. Both of them beat elite teams.

Nobody has ever said he was perfect. But its his team and he has earned that. He is going to leave here as the best passing QB we have ever had. Leach is not going to recruit a RPO/Mullen QB. He is going to go find kids like Will.

[1bigdawg]

The question for me is how many years Will is going to play at State. He improved his arm strength significantly from his true freshman year. If he continues on that track, when does it make sense for him to go pro?

[bulldawg28]

The question for me is how many years Will is going to play at State. He improved his arm strength significantly from his true freshman year. If he continues on that track, when does it make sense for him to go pro?

After his covid junior season.

[Catfish]

The question for me is how many years Will is going to play at State. He improved his arm strength significantly from his true freshman year. If he continues on that track, when does it make sense for him to go pro?

I think he'll be here two more years. Not sure about his senior year. Depends on his maturity as a quarterback.

[Hambone]

So Cooter said the day Banks committed there was another. What ever happened to that?

[Turfdawg67]

So Cooter said the day Banks committed there was another. What ever happened to that?

Thanks for getting the thread back on point. Lol

[Ari Gold]

So Cooter said the day Banks committed there was another. What ever happened to that?

I will,find out what I can after the bowl,game, since I was basically the only one that had Banks to State..

[Hambone]

I will,find out what I can after the bowl,game, since I was basically the only one that had Banks to State..

Good deal!

[Todd4State]

Minshew is more mobile than Will, but furthermore, I don't recall Minshew or Harrell winning anything.

Not to mention that the SEC has By far the best and most great pass rushers in college football. Minshew and Harrell didn't have to deal with the competition Will does.

Again, I love Will. Makes me sad that some think he's a perfect player and im forced to point out the obvious area that he and we need to improve.

You overvalue arm strength and mobility and undervalue accuracy and leadership. Same thing the NFL scouts did with Montana, Brady, and Brees.

[ShotgunDawg]

You overvalue arm strength and mobility and undervalue accuracy and leadership. Same thing the NFL scouts did with Montana, Brady, and Brees.

Brees and Brady are the two best pocket manipulators of all time. Don't include them.

And I'm not overvaluing a damn thing. You're undervaluing.

Accuracy doesn't mean anything if the QB can't get the pass off. Think through this logically Todd

[Turfdawg67]

I thought it was sad that most of the season you thought he was the weakest link and talked about him like he stole your girlfriend. You are not qualified at this point to be pointing out talent issues. You even admitted you were wrong. And now you are suddenly an expert on judging Will again, how about just hope that he continues to improve on his weaknesses like our last great QB did.

You should've seen his Joe Burrow assessments...

[Bothrops]

Agree here, I don?t think Sawyer ever sees the field. I hope we get a stud this class, sit 2 seasons behind Will then take over

Like Braedyn Locke?

[Cowbell]

You overvalue arm strength and mobility and undervalue accuracy and leadership. Same thing the NFL scouts did with Montana, Brady, and Brees.

And dak

[RezDog7]

Brees and Brady are the two best pocket manipulators of all time. Don't include them.

And I'm not overvaluing a damn thing. You're undervaluing.

Accuracy doesn't mean anything if the QB can't get the pass off. Think through this logically Todd

No QB is accurate when there is pressure. Did you watch Baker Mayfield yesterday? Strong arm and mobile but couldn't hit a receiver if his life depended on it.

[vv83]

Like Braedyn Locke?

I actually meant this upcoming class because I think Will uses his covid year so he would be here another 3, but would be awesome if he is that dude and sticks around through it all to start his last 2 years. I'd take it for sure, just with the transfer portal I don't see any great QB sitting for 3 years

[ShotgunDawg]

No QB is accurate when there is pressure. Did you watch Baker Mayfield yesterday? Strong arm and mobile but couldn't hit a receiver if his life depended on it.

Good heavens. Post less

[bulldawg28]

I actually meant this upcoming class because I think Will uses his covid year so he would be here another 3, but would be awesome if he is that dude and sticks around through it all to start his last 2 years. I'd take it for sure, just with the transfer portal I don't see any great QB sitting for 3 years

Agreed

[Catfish]

I actually meant this upcoming class because I think Will uses his covid year so he would be here another 3, but would be awesome if he is that dude and sticks around through it all to start his last 2 years. I'd take it for sure, just with the transfer portal I don't see any great QB sitting for 3 years

Rep!

[Todd4State]

Brees and Brady are the two best pocket manipulators of all time. Don't include them.

And I'm not overvaluing a damn thing. You're undervaluing.

Accuracy doesn't mean anything if the QB can't get the pass off. Think through this logically Todd

Logically accuracy doesn't have anything to do with getting the actual pass protection. That's more about protection from the offensive line. It's not like Will is getting sacked every other play either. Will can make plays in the pocket and move around some. Don't forget he is the same age as a redshirt freshman. He improved with that throughout the year and I expect that he will continue to do so and they'll talk about how wrong you are again about him by this time next year.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I actually meant this upcoming class because I think Will uses his covid year so he would be here another 3, but would be awesome if he is that dude and sticks around through it all to start his last 2 years. I'd take it for sure, just with the transfer portal I don't see any great QB sitting for 3 years

I would be shocked if Will leaves early at any point

[Catfish]

Logically accuracy doesn't have anything to do with getting the actual pass protection. That's more about protection from the offensive line. It's not like Will is getting sacked every other play either. Will can make plays in the pocket and move around some. Don't forget he is the same age as a redshirt freshman. He improved with that throughout the year and I expect that he will continue to do so and they'll talk about how wrong you are again about him by this time next year.

Y'all know more about this then I do but won't the coaches work with him during the off-season on his foot work and such in the pocket?

[vv83]

Y'all know more about this then I do but won't the coaches work with him during the off-season on his foot work and such in the pocket?

Yeah definitely, but feeling pressure and knowing when to step up, when to throw a dead play away, when to just sit on a sack, etc. comes only with real game reps. Shotgun makes pretty good points that get ignored here for whatever reason, but Will doesn't have the escapability of some other guys. That's not a knock on him, just a fact. Luckily his first 2 years he had a top 10 NFL draft LT protecting his blindside and now that he's got 2 years of reps hopefully he can do more with less on the left side. A great QB and offensive scheme can hide a ton of problems so think we're in good hands.

[Tater]

Y'all know more about this then I do but won't the coaches work with him during the off-season on his foot work and such in the pocket?

Considering Leach makes every 6th or so practice a Four Verts practice, yes.

Will has already shown the standard (and quite frankly above average) jumps in play level for a true freshman and going through his first full season as a starter. I'm sure mobility and strength will be the points of emphasis this off season. If he can take a next level leap in both of those areas which is very typical for 19-20 yr olds to do, then look out. I'd disagree with Bucky on him leaving early if he can take jumps in those specific areas. He already goes through progressions and diagnoses presnap well with top flight accuracy. All those qualities were things Dak learned in his jump from junior year to senior year on top of learning to be pocket mobile (as opposed to a running quarterback). Pocket mobility is a skill that can be learned and you don't need Mike Vick athleticism to do it. A top 5 mobile QB all time was Dan Marino because he could maneuver in the pocket like no other. I fully expect us to be in awe of Will by mid season next year. And serious discussions to be had about his draftability.

[Catfish]

Yeah definitely, but feeling pressure and knowing when to step up, when to throw a dead play away, when to just sit on a sack, etc. comes only with real game reps. Shotgun makes pretty good points that get ignored here for whatever reason, but Will doesn't have the escapability of some other guys. That's not a knock on him, just a fact. Luckily his first 2 years he had a top 10 NFL draft LT protecting his blindside and now that he's got 2 years of reps hopefully he can do more with less on the left side. A great QB and offensive scheme can hide a ton of problems so think we're in good hands.

Thanks

[Catfish]

Considering Leach makes every 6th or so practice a Four Verts practice, yes.

Will has already shown the standard (and quite frankly above average) jumps in play level for a true freshman and going through his first full season as a starter. I'm sure mobility and strength will be the points of emphasis this off season. If he can take a next level leap in both of those areas which is very typical for 19-20 yr olds to do, then look out. I'd disagree with Bucky on him leaving early if he can take jumps in those specific areas. He already goes through progressions and diagnoses presnap well with top flight accuracy. All those qualities were things Dak learned in his jump from junior year to senior year on top of learning to be pocket mobile (as opposed to a running quarterback). Pocket mobility is a skill that can be learned and you don't need Mike Vick athleticism to do it. A top 5 mobile QB all time was Dan Marino because he could maneuver in the pocket like no other. I fully expect us to be in awe of Will by mid season next year. And serious discussions to be had about his draftability.

Thanks

[Tater]

Yeah definitely, but feeling pressure and knowing when to step up, when to throw a dead play away, when to just sit on a sack, etc. comes only with real game reps. Shotgun makes pretty good points that get ignored here for whatever reason, but Will doesn't have the escapability of some other guys. That's not a knock on him, just a fact. Luckily his first 2 years he had a top 10 NFL draft LT protecting his blindside and now that he's got 2 years of reps hopefully he can do more with less on the left side. A great QB and offensive scheme can hide a ton of problems so think we're in good hands.

Shotgun gets knocked because he presents his opinion as if we should be looking for someone who is readymade and able to do it as opposed to having any thought that Will could develop something teachable. It carries over from his take that Will's arm strength isn't good enough to compete in the SEC as if 18 year olds with Ryan Mallet arms, Mike Vick legs, and Drew Brees accuracy exist w/o college training and go to MSU for the cheap.

[Bdawg]

Shotgun gets knocked because he presents his opinion as if we should be looking for someone who is readymade and able to do it as opposed to having any thought that Will could develop something teachable. It carries over from his take that Will's arm strength isn't good enough to compete in the SEC as if 18 year olds with Ryan Mallet arms, Mike Vick legs, and Drew Brees accuracy exist w/o college training and go to MSU for the cheap.

That's pretty funny. That would be the first six star in recruiting history and he would come to MSU over all the D1 schools in the country!! Sounds great to me!! Ha ha

[Todd4State]

Y'all know more about this then I do but won't the coaches work with him during the off-season on his foot work and such in the pocket?

Yes. And Will is going to work with his private QB coach or a private QB coach this offseason on all of that. Not to mention our QB coach and Leach will be working with him on those things as well.

Like others have said a lot of those things only really come with live reps against live competition. 2020 is going to end up being a big blessing for Will in that regard because he was essentially able to get more reps than he would have as a redshirt without actually burning a redshirt. His rapport with our receivers will get better too.

At times it looks like the game is moving too fast for Will but that is happening less and less as he continues to grow.

[Goldendawg]

Oops, my bad. I thought this was the 2022 recruiting thread and set up for that type info. Why can't the "Will Not Worthy or Worthy to be Our QB" be discussed on one of the many of those type threads which are available to bump since he took his first snap last year? Fire away. Just my opinion on the purpose for this thread. Hail State!

[ScoobaDawg]

Oops, my bad. I thought this was the 2022 recruiting thread and set up for that type info. Why can't the "Will Not Worthy or Worthy to be Our QB" be discussed on one of the many of those type threads which are available to bump since he took his first snap last year? Fire away. Just my opinion on the purpose for this thread. Hail State!

I agree... I've looked here for the best couple of days thinking there was an update. Would yall please move the Will talk, which isn't about a recruit somewhere else.

[Hot Rock]

I would expect the transfer portal talk to heat up after the bowl game.

[Catfish]

I would expect the transfer portal talk to heat up after the bowl game.

Agreed

[vv83]

Oops, my bad. I thought this was the 2022 recruiting thread and set up for that type info. Why can't the "Will Not Worthy or Worthy to be Our QB" be discussed on one of the many of those type threads which are available to bump since he took his first snap last year? Fire away. Just my opinion on the purpose for this thread. Hail State!

Don’t think a single person is saying he isn’t worthy?

[vv83]

I would expect the transfer portal talk to heat up after the bowl game.

Hopefully. Really want to know who the other person everyone was alluding to when Banks committed

[SilentSteel16]

I have heard talk of Mingo coming over to us? is that a good fit? Serious question I know there is obvious familiarity with Rogers but I don?t know about this one.

[KOdawg1]

I have heard talk of Mingo coming over to us? is that a good fit? Serious question I know there is obvious familiarity with Rogers but I don?t know about this one.

He isn't that good

[somebodyshotmypaw]

He isn't that good

There was a mock NFL draft back in the summer that had Mingo being drafted in the late second round of the 2022 NFL draft. I guess somebody was optimistic he was going to have a big year and leave early. It surprised me.

[Cooterpoot]

Now that the season is over, it's time to start things rolling. Pretty positive we've got one more player under wraps. We know OL is a priority. We know Safety is a priority (there's going to be some movement at DB). We know K is a must. We know we're chasing a WR.
Admittedly, I've forgotten how many spots we've got but think it's 8. So lots of wiggle room. Probably save one or two for after spring transfers.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Now that the season is over, it's time to start things rolling. Pretty positive we've got one more player under wraps. We know OL is a priority. We know Safety is a priority (there's going to be some movement at DB). We know K is a must. We know we're chasing a WR.
Admittedly, I've forgotten how many spots we've got but think it's 8. So lots of wiggle room. Probably save one or two for after spring transfers.

Are you counting the two we have signed (supposedly) and haven?t been officially announced due to one announcing with his teammates at an upcoming signing day event and the other on a relatives birthday?

[bobcat91]

We have offered a K in California.

https://twitter.com/g11plascencia/status/1476327853553688579?s=21

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

We have offered a K in California.

https://twitter.com/g11plascencia/status/1476327853553688579?s=21

Looks like a product of Chris Sailer kicking. Wasn't Logan Cooke under their training?

[Commercecomet24]

Looks like a product of Chris Sailer kicking. Wasn't Logan Cooke under their training?

Chris Sailer kicking is top notch.

[bobcat91]

He can punt as well.

[yjnkdawg]

He can punt as well.

He seemed to be thrilled with our offer. I would take him anyday over the ARK kicker in the portal.

[bobcat91]

He seemed to be thrilled with our offer. I would take him anyday over the ARK kicker in the portal.

Looks like we may be taking 2 guys.

[Cooterpoot]

Are you counting the two we have signed (supposedly) and haven?t been officially announced due to one announcing with his teammates at an upcoming signing day event and the other on a relatives birthday?

I'm counting them. But my math ain't great. I'm trying to work off memory that's taken a hit since turning 45.

[Goldendawg]

Does anyone have any info on who we are on in the transfer portal?

[Catfish]

Looks like we may be taking 2 guys.

Any idea who they are?

[WhiskeyPirate]

Rivals site says we are chasing a bunch of guys in the portal, it’s premium though.

[WhiskeyPirate]

Four star OT Quinn Carroll from ND 6-7 315 and four star edge rusher from Utah 6-7 265 enter portal along with four star Michigan corner.

Austin Howell holds a State offer. Watch his highlight film on 247, he’s a beast. Really good player under the radar. I think he’s a starting LB in a year or so for whoever gets him.

[Ari Gold]

A name to watch the next few days is Jason Brownlee WR from USM.. I except him to hit the portal and sign with Leach and the boys

[Leeshouldveflanked]

A name to watch the next few days is Jason Brownlee WR from USM.. I except him to hit the portal and sign with Leach and the boys
Would be a good pick up. I didnt understand why MoHead didnt try to sign him originally.

[No BS Dawg]

Would be a good pick up. I didnt understand why MoHead didnt try to sign him originally.

Would be a very nice pick-up. Very good height and size (6? 3, 205-210). Had a very solid year in an absolutely abysmal offense.

[Tater]

Would be a very nice pick-up. Very good height and size (6? 3, 205-210). Had a very solid year in an absolutely abysmal offense.

Looks like the same mold as Makai Polk. His scooba tape shows good vision on the tunnel screen play that we love. He'd be a solid addition if he can replicate his statline. Cant have enough 50+ catch, 500+ yd, 5+ TD guys. The ideal Leach offense likely has 8+ of those receiving and 2+ plus running (replace catches with rushes)

That'd be perfect balance across all 5 skill positions and their backups.

[PCHSDawg]

A name to watch the next few days is Jason Brownlee WR from USM.. I except him to hit the portal and sign with Leach and the boys
That would be a jersey I would have to get.

[Catfish]

That would be a jersey I would have to get.

Let's hope it happens.

[Pancho]

Any further info on Brownlee? My rebel/bear/shark/powder blue/he/she friends still feel as if Mingo will bolt for State if kiffin doesn't land a high profile portal QB.

[Cowbell]

Any further info on Brownlee? My rebel/bear/shark/powder blue/he/she friends still feel as if Mingo will bolt for State if kiffin doesn't land a high profile portal QB.

Mingo was an absolute non factor in that bowl game. Even before corral exited. I hope it was just him ready to be out of there. The effort he showed made it look like he would fit in with our bowl enthusiasm...

[No BS Dawg]

If I had to choose between Brownlee and Mingo, I?d take Brownlee all day and twice on Tuesday. He is a blue collar player that excelled on a really crappy team. Mingo has yet to show anything that is consistently impressive. The only positive Mingo has over Brownlee is that he played his HS ball with Rogers, so there would be a definite comfort and familiarity already in place.