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MetEdDawg
11-29-2020, 02:17 PM
Per Brett McMurphy.

Now Bama can hire him as their DC next year when Golding is asked to move on at the end of the season.

msstate7
11-29-2020, 02:22 PM
Vandy needs to go ahead and offer freeze first. Doubt he'd take it this early, but who knows. Vandy (OM's permanent opponent) getting freeze would be hilarious

ShotgunDawg
11-29-2020, 02:23 PM
Vandy was smart after his desperate attempt yesterday

DownwardDawg
11-29-2020, 02:26 PM
Vandy needs to go ahead and offer freeze first. Doubt he'd take it this early, but who knows. Vandy (OM's permanent opponent) getting freeze would be hilarious

I agree with you but no chance he would take that job. He's got either Auburn, Tennessee, Penn State, or Michigan.

msstate7
11-29-2020, 02:29 PM
I agree with you but no chance he would take that job. He's got either Auburn, Tennessee, Penn State, or Michigan.

You know what vandy really needs? The air raid! The fit is so good that we'll waive the buy out haha

parabrave
11-29-2020, 02:30 PM
You know what vandy really needs? The air raid! The fit is so good that we'll waive the buy out haha

Yep. And we will even throw in a former baseball coach for their AD position.

Jacksondevildog
11-29-2020, 02:33 PM
"Historic" firing by Vandy. Clown show yesterday. The team quit.

msstate7
11-29-2020, 02:37 PM
So who does vandy call? I liked Todd's suggestion of Todd monken for them. Would Chadwell have interest? Could they get my boy, Dave clawson? Do they recycle and go with Barry Odom?

PendingTransaction
11-29-2020, 02:38 PM
Vandy would never entertain Freeze, maybe after hell freeze over.

MetEdDawg
11-29-2020, 02:47 PM
They need to try and hire a notable recycled NFL name. Jeff Fisher. Bill O'Brien type.

If that doesn't work, I commit to the service academy approach. Triple option attack and go pay someone a bunch of money to run it.

Vandy will no longer compete in the SEC with a traditional offense because they will never get the talent. Best chance they've got is to have a system that they can perfect and recruit players to that system and out execute folks.

Very similar approach we are taking.

Coach34
11-29-2020, 02:49 PM
Vandy wouldnt hire Freeze

Vandy need to hire from the Paul Johnson coaching tree and run something nobody else does. They could attract smart kids that would play option football. They wont compete any other way and they arent going to win there anyway except for the random bowl appearance every 5-7 years. The South and Midwest is full of RB's and run-blocking linemen to help get some talent.

shoeless joe
11-29-2020, 02:50 PM
Vandy fires a black HC that just made history by playing the first female in SEC/power 5??

msstate7
11-29-2020, 02:56 PM
They need to try and hire a notable recycled NFL name. Jeff Fisher. Bill O'Brien type.

If that doesn't work, I commit to the service academy approach. Triple option attack and go pay someone a bunch of money to run it.

Vandy will no longer compete in the SEC with a traditional offense because they will never get the talent. Best chance they've got is to have a system that they can perfect and recruit players to that system and out execute folks.

Very similar approach we are taking.

Their first call should be to who i would've called first here, Dave clawson. Clawson is winning right now in the acc version of vandy.

Todd4State
11-29-2020, 03:00 PM
So who does vandy call? I liked Todd's suggestion of Todd monken for them. Would Chadwell have interest? Could they get my boy, Dave clawson? Do they recycle and go with Barry Odom?

I suggested his cousin Jeff Monken at Army. I think Clawson would be a fit there since he has had success at Wake Forest which is similar to Vandy.

Monken has applied for the last three open SEC jobs- MSU, Mizzou, and South Carolina. And he's from Georgia. So I'm pretty sure he wants to come to the SEC.

Duckdog
11-29-2020, 03:00 PM
Dang, I guess the stupid PR stunt he pulled yesterday couldnt even save his ass. #SoBold

Todd4State
11-29-2020, 03:20 PM
Per Brett McMurphy.

Now Bama can hire him as their DC next year when Golding is asked to move on at the end of the season.

Does Saban hire Muschamp as his DC again? Makes sense on paper as long as they didn't have a falling out that I am unaware of.

Ari Gold
11-29-2020, 03:25 PM
Dressing the girl and letting her “kick” was one of the most ridiculous and over blown PR stunt in college football in a long time if not ever...
I have to feel Coach Mason might have known this was his last game and said **** it ... and he may have even been pressured into it .. see The AD at Vandy..

And with the next hire there... I have said it before for another school.. Offer Rich Rod and see if he can bring Plumlee.. RR gets a 7 figure pay check and gives him a chance to resurrect his career win 6 games and get a another decent offer

Bandy possible the worse job in P5 to only Kansas.

Ari Gold
11-29-2020, 03:26 PM
I suggested his cousin Jeff Monken at Army. I think Clawson would be a fit there since he has had success at Wake Forest which is similar to Vandy.

Monken has applied for the last three open SEC jobs- MSU, Mizzou, and South Carolina. And he's from Georgia. So I'm pretty sure he wants to come to the SEC.

Clawson isn’t leaving WF for Vandy..

msstate7
11-29-2020, 03:27 PM
I suggested his cousin Jeff Monken at Army. I think Clawson would be a fit there since he has had success at Wake Forest which is similar to Vandy.

Monken has applied for the last three open SEC jobs- MSU, Mizzou, and South Carolina. And he's from Georgia. So I'm pretty sure he wants to come to the SEC.

It was a brain lapse. I meant Jeff.

Todd4State
11-29-2020, 03:27 PM
Claws of isn’t leaving WF for Vandy..

I could understand why he wouldn't. It's a lateral move to a more difficult conference.

Todd4State
11-29-2020, 03:28 PM
It was a brain lapse. I meant Jeff.

I know- Todd4State....Todd Monken....I get why that could happen.

msstate7
11-29-2020, 03:28 PM
Dressing the girl and letting her “kick” was one of the most ridiculous and over blown PR stunt in college football in a long time if not ever...
I have to feel Coach Mason might have known this was his last game and said **** it ... and he may have even been pressured into it .. see The AD at Vandy..

And with the next hire there... I have said it before for another school.. Offer Rich Rod and see if he can bring Plumlee..
possible the worse job in P5 to only Kansas..

That may not be such a bad idea. Plumlee or Shrader

HoopsDawg
11-29-2020, 03:32 PM
I wouldn't mind if Bill Bedenbaugh was our coach. He would be a good choice for Vandy:

Age: 47

Salary: $750,000

For all the benefits and successes of the Air Raid, there are some knocks. Why can’t anyone pair it with a good defense? How do you maintain physicality on offense? Oklahoma has done a good job of answering those questions under Lincoln Riley. On defense, it’s Alex Grinch (see below). On physicality, it’s Bedenbaugh is the answer. Under Bedenbaugh the Sooners have been able to insert a power run game into the Oklahoma attack and they've been able to produce NFL offensive linemen at a striking rate. With offensive line coaches like Sam Pittman, Mario Cristobal and Ryan Silverfield landing head coaching gigs in recent years, the respect is growing for the guys that do this at the level of Bedenbaugh.

Ari Gold
11-29-2020, 03:34 PM
It was a brain lapse. I meant Jeff.

Monken ain?t leaving Army for Vandy..
I don?t see a present HC is leaving for Vandy.. unless it?s just for the money..

Commercecomet24
11-29-2020, 03:37 PM
Monken ain?t leaving Army for Vandy..
I don?t see a present HC is leaving for Vandy.. unless it?s just for the money..

This. They're gonna have to get a coordinator or a d2 HC that's looking to make a move.

HoopsDawg
11-29-2020, 03:37 PM
Monken ain?t leaving Army for Vandy..
I don?t see a present HC is leaving for Vandy.. unless it?s just for the money..

Vandy tried the option in the past, it didn't work. They need to make a commitment to their facilities. And they need to find the right coach. James Franklin won there. They are in the weaker division. You can average 6 wins per year at Vandy. Great city to sell and great education to sell. Stanford is a good model for them. I guess that's why they hired Mason.

msstate7
11-29-2020, 03:42 PM
Vandy tried the option in the past, it didn't work. They need to make a commitment to their facilities. And they need to find the right coach. James Franklin won there. They are in the weaker division. You can average 6 wins per year at Vandy. Great city to sell and great education to sell. Stanford is a good model for them. I guess that's why they hired Mason.

How are teams defending the option successfully these days? I wonder bc as sec teams are having to play more DBs to defend the pass more, would this help or hurt a team going option?

Ari Gold
11-29-2020, 03:48 PM
Vandy tried the option in the past, it didn't work. They need to make a commitment to their facilities. And they need to find the right coach. James Franklin won there. They are in the weaker division. You can average 6 wins per year at Vandy. Great city to sell and great education to sell. Stanford is a good model for them. I guess that's why they hired Mason.

Nothing points to Vandy committing anything to football. If they didn’t when Franklin was there and he had back to back 9 win seasons will they ever?
It’s a one year window job. The year you win 6 you better get the **** out if you have another offer somewhere or go into Mullen Mode and look everywhere for one..
Mason had his window close after the 2018 season .

CaptainObvious
11-29-2020, 03:54 PM
Nothing points to Vandy committing anything to football. If they didn’t when Franklin was there and he had back to back 9 win seasons will they ever?
It’s a one year window job. The year you win 6 you better get the **** out if you have another offer somewhere or go into Mullen Mode and look everywhere for one..
Mason had his window close after the 2018 season .

There are some that say this describes Mississippi State. I am not sure why the pundits think you can win in a Oxford but not in Starkville.

Matt3467
11-29-2020, 04:05 PM
Vandy tried the option in the past, it didn't work. They need to make a commitment to their facilities. And they need to find the right coach. James Franklin won there. They are in the weaker division. You can average 6 wins per year at Vandy. Great city to sell and great education to sell. Stanford is a good model for them. I guess that's why they hired Mason.

Franklin may be available....

DownwardDawg
11-29-2020, 04:40 PM
You know what vandy really needs? The air raid! The fit is so good that we'll waive the buy out haha

Lol. I'm with ya!!!

Todd4State
11-29-2020, 06:26 PM
Monken ain?t leaving Army for Vandy..
I don?t see a present HC is leaving for Vandy.. unless it?s just for the money..

You may be right but if Monken wants to come to the SEC Vandy is the only place I could see that would hire him.

Mike MacIntyre seems obvious since his Dad was a head coach there and he is the DC at Memphis. I would think he would take it if offered.

TALL DAWG
11-29-2020, 08:58 PM
You may be right but if Monken wants to come to the SEC Vandy is the only place I could see that would hire him.

Mike MacIntyre seems obvious since his Dad was a head coach there and he is the DC at Memphis. I would think he would take it if offered.

Mullen to Vandy...😎

TNDawg35
11-29-2020, 09:19 PM
Moorehead to Vandy***

Ari Gold
11-29-2020, 09:49 PM
There are some that say this describes Mississippi State. I am not sure why the pundits think you can win in a Oxford but not in Starkville.

Well that’s because OM PR still wants and tries to make everyone think its still the 1960s and I will give them credit that do a helluva job...

Todd4State
11-29-2020, 11:41 PM
Mullen to Vandy...��

It's going to be interesting to see who Stricklin hires when he goes to the NFL.

Dawgology
11-30-2020, 12:11 AM
JoMo to Vandy...

NCDawg
11-30-2020, 12:17 AM
Vandy wouldnt hire Freeze

Vandy need to hire from the Paul Johnson coaching tree and run something nobody else does. They could attract smart kids that would play option football. They wont compete any other way and they arent going to win there anyway except for the random bowl appearance every 5-7 years. The South and Midwest is full of RB's and run-blocking linemen to help get some talent.

This is probably the correct approach for Vanderbilt. Paul Johnson had a lot of success with option football, as does Air Force, Army. and Navy. It could very well be a success at Vanderbilt.

Todd4State
11-30-2020, 01:41 AM
This is probably the correct approach for Vanderbilt. Paul Johnson had a lot of success with option football, as does Air Force, Army. and Navy. It could very well be a success at Vanderbilt.

He would win there I think. Assuming he's not over the hill. Georgia Tech is similar to Vandy in some ways. But that's why I mentioned Monken. He's a younger version of Johnson and comes from his coaching tree. IMO Monken is a better coach but Johnson is very good too.

Bullsy
11-30-2020, 03:08 AM
Vandy fires a black HC that just made history by playing the first female in SEC/power 5??

I think they fired a coach that was 0-8 and just got beat 41-0

FISHDAWG
11-30-2020, 10:38 AM
You know what vandy really needs? The air raid! The fit is so good that we'll waive the buy out haha

and after giving Mason 7 years I would say they have enough patience