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jdelta02
11-25-2020, 05:58 PM
Space Coast Challenge (Melbourne Florida).....

Game Day

BeardoMSU
11-25-2020, 06:01 PM
Nice.

ZedFedder
11-25-2020, 07:35 PM
I’m quietly excited about this team.

BayouDawg
11-25-2020, 07:46 PM
Its on cbssn. How would one go about streaming it?

Leeshouldveflanked
11-25-2020, 07:50 PM
I think if you download the cbssports app you can watch for free

BayouDawg
11-25-2020, 07:51 PM
I think if you download the cbssports app you can watch for free

Thanks

vv83
11-25-2020, 08:14 PM
DJ Stewart could end up a stud

Cloak
11-25-2020, 08:16 PM
Its on cbssn. How would one go about streaming it?

Youtube TV free trial. Then cancel once game over. Can do it unlimited times

Leeshouldveflanked
11-25-2020, 08:28 PM
0-6 from the FT line and Ado has 3 fouls... the more things change the more they remain the same

Cooterpoot
11-25-2020, 08:30 PM
This team is young and not very good right now. You guys can have Howland. I don't think he's worth a shit.

RocketDawg
11-25-2020, 08:32 PM
This team is young and not very good right now. You guys can have Howland. I don't think he's worth a shit.

Neither team can score. 19 total points and the first half is half over. That said, looks like our team is playing aggressively.

99jc
11-25-2020, 08:35 PM
There is no 17ing talent on this team they suck....end of story!

msu15
11-25-2020, 08:35 PM
I’m quietly excited about this team.

How?

PGHBulldogBG
11-25-2020, 08:35 PM
I like the aggression, but I?m afraid the talent disadvantage/youth will hurt us this year. Going to need to rely on defense

Cooterpoot
11-25-2020, 08:41 PM
Ben Howland should be shown the damn door, but Covid is going to prevent that.

msstate7
11-25-2020, 08:44 PM
Come on ado, stop fouling

Cooterpoot
11-25-2020, 08:47 PM
Mansions could be built with all these bricks. Damn this is hard to watch.

maroonmania
11-25-2020, 08:47 PM
We don't seem to have anyone on this team that can hit the broadside of a barn. Afraid we are going to miss Tyson Carter even more than we miss either of Perry or Woodard.

ZedFedder
11-25-2020, 08:47 PM
Free throws. Like the effort tho.

maroonmania
11-25-2020, 08:48 PM
Free throws. Like the effort tho.

Yea! We finally made a charity shot!

SailingDawg
11-25-2020, 08:49 PM
I think if you download the cbssports app you can watch for free

Yes I'm getting the feed and streaming it to my TV.

They look talented, but both teams are playing sloppy.


Its on cbssn. How would one go about streaming it?

Download the app on your phone and stream to your tv. I had the app on my Apple TV but deleted it earlier, so I don't know if it will work there.

99jc
11-25-2020, 08:52 PM
Cant watch this kind of shit...be back when the women start playing.

ShotgunDawg
11-25-2020, 08:54 PM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ClumsyWindingGreatwhiteshark-small.gif

PGHBulldogBG
11-25-2020, 08:55 PM
Anyone know what Molinars discipline issue is about? I thought it was COVID related but announcers said out a couple games for discipline

maroonmania
11-25-2020, 08:56 PM
Seriously, is it that hard to find a few players that at least look like they've shot a basketball before?

ShotgunDawg
11-25-2020, 08:59 PM
Seriously, is it that hard to find a few players that at least look like they've shot a basketball before?

Prior to this football season, I could've said the same about our WR core.

"How can Memphis have 4 WRs better than ours?"

MCsMGs
11-25-2020, 09:00 PM
Really missing Molinar and his ability to get to the rim...

Steakonastick
11-25-2020, 09:15 PM
Anyone know what Molinars discipline issue is about? I thought it was COVID related but announcers said out a couple games for discipline

It?s COVID. He tested positive last weekend.

maroonmania
11-25-2020, 09:15 PM
If I wasn't an MSU fan it would be almost humorous how bad we are shooting from both the field and the free throw line.

ZedFedder
11-25-2020, 09:16 PM
We should be ahead. This is historically bad at the FT line.

Irondawg
11-25-2020, 09:26 PM
Like most of Howlands other teams we just aren’t good at offensive fundamentals but this team has less natural talent than his last few teams.

He also really tinkers with his players shots - he talks about it all the time in press conferences but I’ve yet to see a guy really improve his shooting under his coaching

maroonmania
11-25-2020, 09:28 PM
Will we crack 40?

BayouDawg
11-25-2020, 09:30 PM
This could be our worst team since the ray years

PGHBulldogBG
11-25-2020, 09:33 PM
I?m genuinely curious because I don?t think it?s happened in the last 15 years but when have we last overachieved our preseason expectations in basketball? We have done this in football and baseball a good number of times, but I can?t recall it happening in basketball since the 90s wirh Williams? Maybe 2004 regular season?

msstate7
11-25-2020, 09:34 PM
We really need Molinar back soon

Leeshouldveflanked
11-25-2020, 09:34 PM
I dont know if this team will win a SEC game...UPig scored 142 points today... we wouldnt score 142 points against air.

BayouDawg
11-25-2020, 09:37 PM
It looks like this team has been social distancing from practicing

Irondawg
11-25-2020, 09:42 PM
We are a really really really bad passing team and that stuff usually doesn’t fix itself quickly.

BayouDawg
11-25-2020, 09:45 PM
We are a really really really bad passing team and that stuff usually doesn’t fix itself quickly.

But we make up for it by no one moving without the ball.

KOdawg1
11-25-2020, 09:47 PM
This is hard to watch

ScoobaDawg
11-25-2020, 09:51 PM
just dunk the damn ball

BayouDawg
11-25-2020, 09:54 PM
Is it just me or is adu basically the exact same as he was as a freshman?

msugolf
11-25-2020, 09:59 PM
Our men's basketball program is completely dead ...the worst program in the conference

msstate7
11-25-2020, 10:03 PM
Our men's basketball program is completely dead ...the worst program in the conference

Worst program in the conference? Are you an idiot? Pull up some stats/records to support this claim.

RLM38654
11-25-2020, 10:06 PM
State lost this game on Free Throw line 8-28. Wow

NCMSTFAN
11-25-2020, 10:07 PM
Yes we don't look good and I'm beginning to get tired of Howland also... but we opened up against Clemson without Molinar with a young team so its hard to expect alot. But Howland I'm done taking up for Howland. I haven't seen any improvement since he has been at MSU

msugolf
11-25-2020, 10:09 PM
Worst program in the conference? Are you an idiot? Pull up some stats/records to support this claim.

As far as support and attention from the athletic department and alums. This administration decided a few years ago that men's basketball just wasn't going to be a priority going forward.

Irondawg
11-25-2020, 10:09 PM
I’m worried that FT effort isn’t a fluke. None of those guys have smooth shooting motions that make you think they hit 65-70% on a normal day.

Tripp McNeely
11-25-2020, 10:09 PM
No true ball handlers (outside of Molinar). Deivon will be one in time, but he looks like a very tentative freshman. DJ is being asked to do too much. He's a jump shooter and defender. He can't run the show. No handles. Ado has not improved a bit in 4 years. Matthews, Tolu, and Javian Davis will help this year and only get better. All 3 were pretty impressive. Jalen Johnson is just running around out there. He's a nonfactor

Holding off judgment for a season projection until we can see how Molinar runs the show though. If he can be a serviceable PG and knock down some shots (supposedly he's improved his shooting dramatically) we'll be decent. It's hard to be even mediocre if you don't have a PG who can get the offense going.

We do have more freshmen and sophomores than ANY team I the country through. So, the future is bright...I guess?

msstate7
11-25-2020, 10:12 PM
As far as support and attention from the athletic department and alums. This administration decided a few years ago that men's basketball just wasn't going to be a priority going forward.

Well I'll give you that. We are a crappy MBK fanbase. On the court though, we are far from the worst. We've been solid top half last 3 years

NCMSTFAN
11-25-2020, 10:14 PM
Tripp McNeely when we were signing all of those long forwards and bigs I brought up ball handling and PG play, we don't have enough guys that can handle the ball. In years past we had Q, Nick, Peter's and Carter who could all handle it... now we are down to 2 guys. You win with guard play in College and we lack depth there. We should have at least picked up a JUCO PG for depth

msugolf
11-25-2020, 10:16 PM
This is Howland's swan song. His no-plan, anemic offense has plagued him everywhere he's gone. 1998 Big East basketball just isn't going to cut it these days.

Irondawg
11-25-2020, 10:17 PM
I just don’t see offensive talent - in years past you could see guys who were capable of being scoring options early in their career. Way too many of our guys for that athletic slasher role with no true shooting or scoring ability.

Maybe we should just full court press 100% of the time.

Hopefully it’s just one game and there were a bunch of nerves involved but I’m concerned at this point.

msstate7
11-25-2020, 10:20 PM
This is Howland's swan song. His no-plan, anemic offense has plagued him everywhere he's gone. 1998 Big East basketball just isn't going to cut it these days.

UCLA led the pac12 in scoring his last year

Irondawg
11-25-2020, 10:21 PM
Honestly I think Howland watches too much NBA and thinks if we just recruit enough athletes we?ll score by just being more athletic.

He seems to value that in recruiting more than guys who can shoot, dribble or pass better, but are not as dynamic. For instance he would have never recruited that Clemson guard who was the one guy hitting outside shots with a sweet shooting motion. He would have never passed Howlands eye test.

He thinks he can take plus athletes and teach them how to shoot and score and that’s not been working out so well for us.

Cooterpoot
11-25-2020, 10:27 PM
Well I'll give you that. We are a crappy MBK fanbase. On the court though, we are far from the worst. We've been solid top half last 3 years

Should've been better with three NBA guys.

NCMSTFAN
11-25-2020, 10:27 PM
We play again tomorrow. Hopefully we see some improvements

NCMSTFAN
11-25-2020, 10:30 PM
Should've been better with three NBA guys.

Exactly, we have 3 guys who were drafted to the NBA the last 2 years even though they were 2nd rounders... they were all 1 of only 60 players selected per their respective year. So we had 3 NBA draftees playing and didn't really win

msstate7
11-25-2020, 10:31 PM
Should've been better with three NBA guys.

All 3 on nba rosters 2021?

msstate7
11-25-2020, 10:39 PM
We play again tomorrow. Hopefully we see some improvements

Hopefully we do. I wanna see 5-7 games before I judge them

NCMSTFAN
11-25-2020, 11:08 PM
All 3 on nba rosters 2021?

Q signed another 2 way contract and he played in the bubble last year in true NBA games.. They like him alot. Perry is with the Nets and they are calling him the 2nd round sleeper. Woodard is with the Kings, the like him as a true 3 and D guy so our guys are in good position to contribute on NBA teams. Im still not sure why we weren't better with those 3 playing

msstate7
11-25-2020, 11:25 PM
Q signed another 2 way contract and he played in the bubble last year in true NBA games.. They like him alot. Perry is with the Nets and they are calling him the 2nd round sleeper. Woodard is with the Kings, the like him as a true 3 and D guy so our guys are in good position to contribute on NBA teams. Im still not sure why we weren't better with those 3 playing

We were a 5-seed with those 3.

Cooterpoot
11-25-2020, 11:31 PM
Samford scored 174 tonight. I don't care if they played the school for the blind, that's better than 40 something vs Clemson.

Leeshouldveflanked
11-26-2020, 09:41 AM
Samford scored 174 tonight. I don't care if they played the school for the blind, that's better than 40 something vs Clemson.

I don?t think we would break 100 playing air.

NCMSTFAN
11-26-2020, 10:07 AM
We were a 5-seed with those 3.

Thats my point, we should have been better with 3 NBA draftees on our team. Howland hasn't done much with the talent we have had.