Do we play this week? Should we? [Archive]

confucius say

11-23-2020, 11:30 AM

I think we will play.

I think if we have below the 53 again we should play it 12-19-2020.

Remember that uga didn't go tempo at all. Mississippi will. We played with 21 defensive scholly guys vs uga I believe. No way I do that vs tempo.

ShotgunDawg

11-23-2020, 11:31 AM

No and No

I don't think we should have to play our rival without our two best pass rushers

Leeshouldveflanked

11-23-2020, 11:50 AM

Max number of scholarship players we will have is 49 before 3 Covid Test unless one of the injured I.e Costello gets cleared to play.

StarkVegasSteve

11-23-2020, 11:53 AM

Put the ball down and go look for a damn fight. And I think the majority of our players would say the same thing.

FISHDAWG

11-23-2020, 11:55 AM

I don't know if we'll play but Yes I think we should ... I think it's better to go play after the momentum of the UGA game even with the players out than it would after getting kicked in the nuts by Auburn

ShotgunDawg

11-23-2020, 11:56 AM

Put the ball down and go look for a damn fight. And I think the majority of our players would say the same thing.

They would but we've got real jimmy and Joe's problems with this contact tracing. It's a terrible matchup for us without our 2 best pass rushers

ShotgunDawg

11-23-2020, 11:57 AM

FISHDAWG

11-23-2020, 12:01 PM

I don't see any reason Auburn would kick us in the nuts

We have played good or decent in only TWO games this year ... What makes you think AU will be any different ?

confucius say

11-23-2020, 12:05 PM

I think the tempo is the difference and why you don't play with 21 scholly defenders. It becomes a safety issue, not a win-loss issue.

Hambone

11-23-2020, 12:51 PM

Depends on what the SEC wants to do. If we don’t play this week Ole Miss will not play the full schedule. They will have to cancel one of their games. A&M already has games on 12/12 and 12/19

ShotgunDawg

11-23-2020, 12:53 PM

We have played good or decent in only TWO games this year ... What makes you think AU will be any different ?

because I think we're getting better. Isn't that pretty obvious?

confucius say

11-23-2020, 12:56 PM

Depends on what the SEC wants to do. If we don?t play this week Ole Miss will not play the full schedule. They will have to cancel one of their games. A&M already has games on 12/12 and 12/19

Aggie could play OM on 12-12 and TN on 12-19

ShotgunDawg

11-23-2020, 12:57 PM

Who does Aggie have to make up other than TN?

OM

FISHDAWG

11-23-2020, 12:59 PM

because I think we're getting better. Isn't that pretty obvious?

two or three games in a row would be obvious - not one game. Look Gun - I want to get excited too but it's just gonna take more than a game to do that after what we have seen .... and here's to hoping you and the others are right because me and several others are hoping for the same thing

confucius say

11-23-2020, 01:00 PM

OM

Play TN on 12-12 and OM on 12-19

Jack Lambert

11-23-2020, 01:04 PM

If we don't play and if it is not cancel it will be played on the Day of SEC championship.

ShotgunDawg

11-23-2020, 01:15 PM

two or three games in a row would be obvious - not one game. Look Gun - I want to get excited too but it's just gonna take more than a game to do that after what we have seen .... and here's to hoping you and the others are right because me and several others are hoping for the same thing

You’re entitled to your opinion

Jarius

11-23-2020, 01:17 PM

Mobile Bay

11-23-2020, 01:38 PM

If we have 11 we play. Period. That's the mentality it takes to be successful, and we build from there.

Hambone

11-23-2020, 01:50 PM

No, A&M does not have 12/19 filled.

Yea they do..... they are scheduling Ole Miss then

Jarius

11-23-2020, 01:56 PM

Yea they do..... they are scheduling Ole Miss then

No they don't. If we need to move the EB to the 19th we will do that and they will move around the schedule for their other opponents. They are currently open the 19th. Nothing has been scheduled. All they have to do is move Tennessee to the 19th and schedule OM for the 12th.

confucius say

11-23-2020, 01:57 PM

Yea they do..... they are scheduling Ole Miss then

Maybe. But not necessarily. No games for 12-19 official yet

BuckyIsAB****

11-23-2020, 02:23 PM

Great point about tempo. It will take a toll. We need 3 negative tests bad.

StarkVegasSteve

11-23-2020, 02:49 PM

Great point about tempo. It will take a toll. We need 3 negative tests bad.

If you're referring to Wheat, Davis, and Heath it doesn't matter if they test negative. They could have 7 negative tests in a row and they still wouldn't be able to play. It's stupid because Saban got away with it and no one batted an eye but everyone else has had to follow the 14 day rule. He literally is the only one who's gotten out of it.

Jarius

11-23-2020, 02:53 PM

If you're referring to Wheat, Davis, and Heath it doesn't matter if they test negative. They could have 7 negative tests in a row and they still wouldn't be able to play. It's stupid because Saban got away with it and no one batted an eye but everyone else has had to follow the 14 day rule. He literally is the only one who's gotten out of it.

Saban got out of it because he was considered a false positive. Our guys don't have COVID. They are contact tracing cases that never tested positive and are probably not even being tested (contact tracing is just a 10 day wait I believe). That makes even less sense, but that is the reason. These rules are insanely stupid.

confucius say

11-23-2020, 03:02 PM

Contact tracing is 14 days
A positive test is 10

Stupid I know

Cowbell

11-23-2020, 03:19 PM

If we have 11 we play. Period. That's the mentality it takes to be successful, and we build from there.

Right....lol

Johnson85

11-23-2020, 03:34 PM

I think the tempo is the difference and why you don't play with 21 scholly defenders. It becomes a safety issue, not a win-loss issue.

I don't know if it's really a safety issue but you can't defend against temp without subs. Could be ok if our offense is clicking and holding the ball for a long time. But while I want us to play, I don't see any reason for us to lose a game we can win because Ole Miss has already missed two games.

confucius say

11-23-2020, 04:01 PM

What two games has Mississippi already missed? I thought it was just the one vs Aggie

msstate7

11-23-2020, 04:04 PM

What two games has Mississippi already missed? I thought it was just the one vs Aggie

LSU?

confucius say

11-23-2020, 04:06 PM

LSU?

Nope. Scheduled to play them 12-5-2020 as part of normal schedule.

ShotgunDawg

11-23-2020, 04:08 PM

If you're referring to Wheat, Davis, and Heath it doesn't matter if they test negative. They could have 7 negative tests in a row and they still wouldn't be able to play. It's stupid because Saban got away with it and no one batted an eye but everyone else has had to follow the 14 day rule. He literally is the only one who's gotten out of it.

Completely different situation between Saban and our guys.

Saban tested positive. Which means testing negative 3 times would equal a false positive.

Our guys have been contract traced, which means exposed to the virus, & since the incubation period for COVID is up to 14 days, contract traced players must sit for 14 days.

Personally, I think that's way to long & so rare that it's ridiculous. Contract traced players should have to sit wait 5 days & then be able to test out of it with 3 straight negatives. That would eliminate 99+% of the contract traced cases

Johnson85

11-23-2020, 04:12 PM

Completely different situation between Saban and our guys.

Saban tested positive. Which means testing negative 3 times would equal a false positive.

Our guys have been contract traced, which means exposed to the virus, & since the incubation period for COVID is up to 14 days, contract traced players must sit for 14 days.

Personally, I think that's way to long & so rare that it's ridiculous. Contract traced players should have to sit wait 5 days & then be able to test out of it with 3 straight negatives. That would eliminate 99+% of the contract traced cases

97.5% of people exposed that go on to show symptoms show symptoms within 11.5 days. I suspect a lot of the people that show symptoms later were really just exposed later without knowing it and were counting back to the time they knew they were exposed.

Average time for symptoms is 5 days. Let everybody test at 6 days so they don't have to miss two weeks of games for one exposure.

ShotgunDawg

11-23-2020, 04:28 PM

97.5% of people exposed that go on to show symptoms show symptoms within 11.5 days. I suspect a lot of the people that show symptoms later were really just exposed later without knowing it and were counting back to the time they knew they were exposed.

Average time for symptoms is 5 days. Let everybody test at 6 days so they don't have to miss two weeks of games for one exposure.

Agree. That would be the correct balance between caution & common sense

BuckyIsAB****

11-23-2020, 04:35 PM

So basically there is no way we get 3 starters back

FISHDAWG

11-23-2020, 04:37 PM

Leach is a trip ... I'll bet after a few of these match-ups he won't make this mistake again ... I'm not complaining - just enjoying some Mike Leach

https://twitter.com/tbhorka/status/1330970854851829762

ShotgunDawg

11-23-2020, 04:41 PM

So basically there is no way we get 3 starters back

Seems like the SEC should throw us a bone here

parabrave

11-23-2020, 04:44 PM

If we have 11 we play. Period. That's the mentality it takes to be successful, and we build from there.

This

Maroonthirteen

11-23-2020, 05:35 PM

gravedigger

11-23-2020, 05:56 PM

Completely different situation between Saban and our guys.

Saban tested positive. Which means testing negative 3 times would equal a false positive.

That's not how the stats work. 3 negative tests do not negate the positive test. He probably got a different test that is considered more reliable.

DLGDawg

11-23-2020, 05:58 PM

I don't know if it's really a safety issue but you can't defend against temp without subs. Could be ok if our offense is clicking and holding the ball for a long time. But while I want us to play, I don't see any reason for us to lose a game we can win because Ole Miss has already missed two games.

I agree. We'll play well for the first half IMO. Somewhere in the 3rd quarter, the ole miss receivers will start to run by our guys and they'll throw a 60 yard TD pass.

After playing all out against jawja and then playing all out the first half of the egg bowl, our guys will wear out. That's just a fact. I don't want to see our guy's having to endure that. And ole miss will definitely run tempo to take advantage of that. Just like we would if the script was flipped.

Saltydog

11-23-2020, 06:07 PM

because I think we're getting better. Isn't that pretty obvious?

Not based on one game it isn't...?..

BuckyIsAB****

11-23-2020, 06:14 PM

Seems like the SEC should throw us a bone here

HA

R2Dawg

11-23-2020, 06:19 PM

because I think we're getting better. Isn't that pretty obvious?

Obvious? We've had 2 good quarters in what 6 games, the last two quarters were not great either. I know you have lowered the standard but lets see what we do down the stretch here.

bulldawg28

11-24-2020, 01:44 AM

What happened to all the insiders saying we were forced to play Saturday and the SEC would reschedule the game to December? Psshhh...

MoreCowbell

11-24-2020, 02:15 AM

Right....lol

He is right actually. You want to produce mentally tough football players you play their(opponents) asses even if undermanned

Hambone

11-24-2020, 07:52 AM

What happened to all the insiders saying we were forced to play Saturday and the SEC would reschedule the game to December? Psshhh...

I’ve been wondering the exact same.

Quaoarsking

11-24-2020, 08:18 AM

State played well last Saturday. If you can, you play this week to keep the momentum going. Also, there is no guarantee that you play Dec 19. The team could have an outbreak then too and then you lose the game all together.

I don't have any inside information, but I bet college football will see a lot of makeup games played in late December/January for teams not involved in the playoff. It just makes sense to lets schools recoup some of their losses this year with a few extra home games.

yjnkdawg

11-24-2020, 09:27 AM

The fact is that the SEC Office wanted us to play against UGA this past Saturday, and they were very happy that we did so. Whether or not there was any undue pressure put on us to play the game as scheduled, then that can be debatable. . If our Covid numbers don't look good this week, as some think they won't , then playing the game this past Saturday should make it easier to request and get the SEC Office's approval to postpone the Egg Bowl until a December date, if our athletic departments so desires. Probably the 19th. Games can be switched around, within a certain time frame, to get the TV game that ESPN/SECN want for a particular day and time slot.

Jarius

11-24-2020, 09:44 AM

What happened to all the insiders saying we were forced to play Saturday and the SEC would reschedule the game to December? Psshhh...

You are mixing up groups of people. We were told to play Saturday by the conference. Whether or not they reschedule the egg bowl is a separate issue all together. That has been speculated but largely not by the same people.

DownwardDawg

11-24-2020, 10:50 AM

What happened to all the insiders saying we were forced to play Saturday and the SEC would reschedule the game to December? Psshhh...

Yeah. There are no insiders. That's the one thing I've learned on this board. I love this community, but it's like every other message board. Zero inside information. Just rumors and gossip.

bulldawg28

11-24-2020, 12:32 PM

You are mixing up groups of people. We were told to play Saturday by the conference. Whether or not they reschedule the egg bowl is a separate issue all together. That has been speculated but largely not by the same people.

I'm not mixing groups. It was said here Friday of last week.

Jarius

11-24-2020, 02:47 PM

I'm not mixing groups. It was said here Friday of last week.

Yes you are. I’m the one who said we were told by the office that we needed to play last week. I was not the one who said we were getting the EB moved. Paul and Robbie from 247 have both said in the past week that they don’t expect the game to be played this week but I have no idea if it will be moved. I hope it is. Any confidence I have shown in any thread regarding this week’s game being moved is based on those 2’s opinion. I don’t know one way or another first or secondhand.

BogeyGolfer

11-24-2020, 03:10 PM

The information is given to everyone ... lol...

Johnson85

11-24-2020, 04:22 PM

I don't have any inside information, but I bet college football will see a lot of makeup games played in late December/January for teams not involved in the playoff. It just makes sense to lets schools recoup some of their losses this year with a few extra home games.

I'm not sure that can happen with bowl games. If I'm an SEC team and get invited to the St. Pete bowl and get asked about a ticket commitment, I might be interested in what ESPN would pay for making up one of the conference games that was postponed. May not get as much money but would have a lot less expenses. But I'm assuming SEC schools can't just decline to play in bowl games that the SEC has contracts with.

I guess you could in theory play in a bowl game and then try to make up a conference game later; be interesting to see how much interest there is in games that have zero implications for conference standings or bowl games.

bulldawg28

11-24-2020, 07:09 PM

Yes you are. I’m the one who said we were told by the office that we needed to play last week. I was not the one who said we were getting the EB moved. Paul and Robbie from 247 have both said in the past week that they don’t expect the game to be played this week but I have no idea if it will be moved. I hope it is. Any confidence I have shown in any thread regarding this week’s game being moved is based on those 2’s opinion. I don’t know one way or another first or secondhand.

Gotcha, all I was saying was I read here of the date changes. I didn't know which individual said it.

Gypsy_RoadDawg

11-25-2020, 07:58 AM

Contact tracing is 14 days
A positive test is 10

Stupid I know

What you say is true, I tested positive for Covid and I got 10 days.

the_real_MSU_is_us

11-25-2020, 09:14 AM

Yeah. There are no insiders. That's the one thing I've learned on this board. I love this community, but it's like every other message board. Zero inside information. Just rumors and gossip.

Nah there's genuine insider info sometimes, it's just downed out by the 4 other posts also claiming to have insider info. Then we get threads on all 5 rumors with melts everywhere, and by the time the truth comes out nobody remembers which 5 original 'insider' posters said what and so none of us learn who is or isn't reliable.

At least C34 said last December that the Athletic Department often passes untrue stuff onto him and he runs with it anyway to help them out. That's an insider I can respect because he pretty much told us to ignore his crappy info lol

DownwardDawg

11-25-2020, 10:10 AM

Nah there's genuine insider info sometimes, it's just downed out by the 4 other posts also claiming to have insider info. Then we get threads on all 5 rumors with melts everywhere, and by the time the truth comes out nobody remembers which 5 original 'insider' posters said what and so none of us learn who is or isn't reliable.

At least C34 said last December that the Athletic Department often passes untrue stuff onto him and he runs with it anyway to help them out. That's an insider I can respect because he pretty much told us to ignore his crappy info lol

Lol. Fair enough