Our next HC contract

[Cowbell]

Needs to have a clause where we can terminate if we have the worst offense in the league.
I hate you more today than ever Dan Mullen.

[msstate7]

Mullen is a great coach, and it's becoming more obvious daily.

[Cowbell]

Mullen is a great coach, and it's becoming more obvious daily.
The best QB coach ever imo

[Cooterpoot]

Mullen is a great coach, and it's becoming more obvious daily.

And he had limited success here. It's more than just coaching here. Mullen hid a lot of our other issues.

[R2Dawg]

And he had limited success here. It's more than just coaching here. Mullen hid a lot of our other issues.

MSU gave Mullen the chance to learn. Mullen was not polished his entire time at MSU. When he learned and was engaged, he was good. When he unplugged, he sucked. He is engaged at Florida and had 9 years to learn at MSU.

Mullen is good coach but Jackie showed you can win at MSU. Mullen even said so himself when he came.

[shrimp]

And he had limited success here. It's more than just coaching here. Mullen hid a lot of our other issues.

What other issues?

[MaroonFlounder]

Needs to have a clause where we can terminate if we have the worst offense in the league.
I hate you more today than ever Dan Mullen.

250K a year and a used cowbell.

The next guy will suffer for the fact that Leach took us to the cleaners.

[HoopsDawg]

MSU gave Mullen the chance to learn. Mullen was not polished his entire time at MSU. When he learned and was engaged, he was good. When he unplugged, he sucked. He is engaged at Florida and had 9 years to learn at MSU.

Mullen is good coach but Jackie showed you can win at MSU. Mullen even said so himself when he came.

This is very true.

[msbulldog]

What other issues?

Issues that Dan brought upon himself by bad recruiting. And we're suffering from that today.

[R2Dawg]

Thing is Mullen could have been the GOAT at MSU and even had a statue of him but his arrogance got the best of him.

I'm still saying he could flame out at UF. His antics the last month have been pathetic from TAMU to the brawl to dark vader.

[RocketDawg]

There should be some way to hire a coach based on performance. Give him a base salary - remove a certain amount for losses, add for wins. Golfers and tennis players don't get paid unless they win (other than money from sponsors, and they have to be fairly well known to get that). Why not coaches? Should yesterday's team performance warrant $500K for the head coach?

[HoopsDawg]

There should be some way to hire a coach based on performance. Give him a base salary - remove a certain amount for losses, add for wins. Golfers and tennis players don't get paid unless they win (other than money from sponsors, and they have to be fairly well known to get that). Why not coaches? Should yesterday's team performance warrant $500K for the head coach?

You are taking a huge risk when you hire a 60 year old and guarantee him 5 million per year. Especially one who doesn't like to recruit.

[IMissJack]

Perhaps you are putting too much emphasis on the coach?s contract rather than the AD?s. If you hit a homerun for an experienced AD, a lot of things like good coaching hires, donations, contracts, etc. seem to happen also...see pre Byrne and post Stricklin for contrast.

[yjnkdawg]

Needs to have a clause where we can terminate if we have the worst offense in the league.



Will never happen.

[lastmajordog]

Mullen is a great coach, and it's becoming more obvious daily. and could have been the greatest if he didn’t choke against Bama and om, run off Def Coordinators and leave MSU out to dry when job hunting. At times what he did with 3 star talent was phenomenal and I’ll never forget how he turned the teams intensity around his very first year. I truly believe he would have gotten to playoffs if he had stayed one more year.

[Todd4State]

There should be some way to hire a coach based on performance. Give him a base salary - remove a certain amount for losses, add for wins. Golfers and tennis players don't get paid unless they win (other than money from sponsors, and they have to be fairly well known to get that). Why not coaches? Should yesterday's team performance warrant $500K for the head coach?

Most have incentives for things like championships and bowls and things like that. I've never heard of a coach basically having money lost for losing or a bad team performance anywhere. That's kind of insane if you think about it. "Hey! You won! But guess what- we didn't think it was a good enough performance. That will be 500k."

[Gypsy_RoadDawg]

Mullen is a great coach, and it's becoming more obvious daily.

Yes it is!!!

[RocketDawg]

Most have incentives for things like championships and bowls and things like that. I've never heard of a coach basically having money lost for losing or a bad team performance anywhere. That's kind of insane if you think about it. "Hey! You won! But guess what- we didn't think it was a good enough performance. That will be 500k."

I've never heard of it either, but I bet they would work a lot harder if it was on the table.

[jackindabox]

Tony Romo should be the next coach. He is almost 100 percent with his play call predictions.

[Todd4State]

Mullen is a great coach, and it's becoming more obvious daily.

It helps that our fans actually allowed him time to build his program and didn't completely flip out after losing to LSU with his poor play calling at the end, lost to Houston because he didn't challenge a play call that almost certainly would have been reversed on our favor or score 15 against a 2-10 Vanderbilt team.

[R2Dawg]

It helps that our fans actually allowed him time to build his program and didn't completely flip out after losing to LSU with his poor play calling at the end, lost to Houston because he didn't challenge a play call that almost certainly would have been reversed on our favor or score 15 against a 2-10 Vanderbilt team.

Bad comparison. Mullen turned the program around instantly. Everyone could see it. Going 5-7 that first year felt like winning a bowl game after the previous year. That is like comparing 2012 8-0 start team to the 2014 team. They are not the same.

We got hosed Mullen's first year with Houston and GT both ranked teams. We played everyone that year tough. Picking out one call in a few places makes Mullen look like Vince Lombardi compared to what we've watched every play for 5 straight games. Mullen never had as many bad calls in 9 years as Leach does in one game at this point.

Mullen showed upside, Leach shows a downslide.

[Todd4State]

Bad comparison. Mullen turned the program around instantly. Everyone could see it. Going 5-7 that first year felt like winning a bowl game after the previous year. That is like comparing 2012 8-0 start team to the 2014 team. They are not the same.

We got hosed Mullen's first year with Houston and GT both ranked teams. We played everyone that year tough. Picking out one call in a few places makes Mullen look like Vince Lombardi compared to what we've watched every play for 5 straight games. Mullen never had as many bad calls in 9 years as Leach does in one game at this point.

Mullen showed upside, Leach shows a downslide.

Going from 4-8 to 5-7 is obviously "instantly turning the program around"? Technically we have played everyone else except Alabama "tough" too- basically the difference between us being a one loss team right now is turnovers. Which I do expect to improve. Dan also didn't have an All-SEC schedule to play. His offense was basically shut down by Florida and Alabama too. People forget Florida because Jonathan Banks made it a game with two INT returns. We didn't play everyone tough either-we got blown out by Auburn and Arkansas.

Thanks for proving my point about our fans giving Dan a pass about this mythological impression that he was "clearly turning the program around" when he basically really benefitted from the fact that we had been to one bowl in ten years and the beneficiary of timing more than anything. It also helped that our AD finally decided that it was more beneficial to play cupcakes and develop talent and get easy wins instead of hoping the national media pats us on the back for playing the most difficult schedule in the country while going 3-9.

We went 5-7 and that was partially Dan's fault. All he has to do is tell Tyson Lee to hand it off to the school's all time leading rusher at the one yard line and we are bowling. Or ask for a replay against Houston. If Leach or Moorhead did that they would be absolutely roasted by our fans.

Meanwhile we have 19 starters playing for the first time this year because of Dan's terrible recruiting...and then add Moorhead's terrible culture on top of it. And what you see is what we get. A freshman QB, an o-line ravaged by COVID, two freshman running backs, and no true slot receivers that profile for the Air Raid and it is what it is. The only way out of this is to give Leach time to develop these young players who do have talent but honestly should be redshirting and get the four star QB's and WR's in as well in our current class and develop them and by 2022 we will have third year players that will know this system and should be good at it. It also hurts us that we don't get to play Jackson State and Middle Tennessee State types like Dan did too so that we can get reps and develop some confidence. Dan was absolutely right that we are a developmental program- and we probably always will be because of the population of Mississippi. Which is why we can't afford to play with this many new players and hope to succeed. We have to have junior and senior laden teams to do that. Which is what happened in 2014 and 2010.