Worse Offense in my lifetime.

[basedog]

I can?t even think if there is any offense that I have watched at MSU that is even close to being this bad!

It?s worse every week, I said in another post Vandy is everybody?s Homecoming game but it?s Miss State!

No Rainbow in sight cause 2020 has brought misery.

[defiantdog]

I can?t even think if there is any offense that I have watched at MSU that is even close to being this bad!

It?s worse every week, I said in another post Vandy is everybody?s Homecoming game but it?s Miss State!

No Rainbow in sight cause 2020 has brought misery.
Croom couldn't pass the ball, but at least we could run it at times. This is embarrassing.

[Hambone]

You must be under 12 years old......

See, there was this game back on September 14th where the Mississippi State offense managed a whopping 129 yards of total offense, and the team they did that to was ranked the number 9 team in the country at the time.

Yes, this offense is bad but just like I’ve said the last two years under Moorhead, there has certainly been worse.

[msstate7]

You must be under 12 years old......

See, there was this game back on September 14th where the Mississippi State offense managed a whopping 129 yards of total offense, and the team they did that to was ranked the number 9 team in the country at the time.

Yes, this offense is bad but just like I’ve said the last two years under Moorhead, there has certainly been worse.

We had 200 total yds tonight

[Matt3467]

We had 200 total yds tonight

remember when we had 24 yds of total offense vs OM in '08?

[msstate7]

remember when we had 24 yds of total offense vs OM in '08?

That was great... got us a great HC

[HoopsDawg]

You must be under 12 years old......

See, there was this game back on September 14th where the Mississippi State offense managed a whopping 129 yards of total offense, and the team they did that to was ranked the number 9 team in the country at the time.

Yes, this offense is bad but just like I’ve said the last two years under Moorhead, there has certainly been worse.

You are wrong. There hasn't been worse. This is the worst 4 game stretch in history. Especially when you account for the rules of the game today and the modernation of offenses.

[Matt3467]

Croom couldn't pass the ball, but at least we could run it at times. This is embarrassing.

Should be noted every game we play this year is an SEC game. Outside of one year under Mullen the last time we had a winning record in conference play you'd have to go back 21 years ago to 1999. Most of our winning years have been thanks to Cupcakes and weak OOC games. Btw take a look at Croom's last year and if you crunch the numbers we barely managed 200 yards of total offense in SEC play and don't forget the whopping 24 yards of total offense we put up vs OM that year. Our offense certainly isn't the worst ever.

[Mobile Bay]

Lots of rot to cut out left to us by Sloppy Joe.

Next year, with a spring, we will be much better.

[Hambone]

We had 200 total yds tonight

That’s 71 yards MORE than that day???

I’m not following

[hp22]

It is awful. It's as bad a 4 game stretch as I remember.

I think Shrader would make our offense immediately better. I wish we had at least seen the Leach approach with a mobile QB. I understand Shrader isnt an elite thrower. But he completed 60 percent of his passes as a true freshman. And the passes we are currently attempting are curls and underneath routes.

Rodgers should start next week but I also am curious if KJ will even be available. Do we even have a backup QB if KJ in not available? That said, I do feel the offense moves better with Rodgers. And I also feel he gives the receivers a chance to make plays. They need to make them.

[Todd4State]

It is awful. It's as bad a 4 game stretch as I remember.

I think Shrader would make our offense immediately better. I wish we had at least seen the Leach approach with a mobile QB. I understand Shrader isnt an elite thrower. But he completed 60 percent of his passes as a true freshman. And the passes we are currently attempting are curls and underneath routes.

Rodgers should start next week but I also am curious if KJ will even be available. Do we even have a backup QB if KJ in not available? That said, I do feel the offense moves better with Rogers. And I also feel he gives the receivers a chance to make plays. They need to make them.

I kind of doubt Costello will be available next weekend.

I don't want to see anyone get hurt, but Costello being out will help because Rodgers will get all the reps this week. And Leach can't do a damn thing about it. The back-ups will be Justin Stolberg and Alan Walters- two walk-ons.

[msstate7]

That’s 71 yards MORE than that day???

I’m not following

Auburn game was contested the whole game. Let's look at 1st half stats since tonight was over at the half...

Auburn 2008: 26 plays, 50 yds (1.92 per play)

Tonight: 22 plays, 41 yds (1.86 per play)

These 2 offensive games were very similar.

[Hambone]

Never once did I say the game was competitive.

The OP said this is the worst offense they’ve ever seen. That simply isn’t true. Yes, it’s very bad, VERY bad.

[smootness]

You can't compare where offense in football is now with where it was 10+ years ago. Offensive numbers are way up across the board, so that has to be taken into account.

Comparative to where offense is in today's game, it's certainly up there with the worst we've ever had. Whether or not it's the absolute worst is up for debate, but it is in the mix.

[R2Dawg]

I can?t even think if there is any offense that I have watched at MSU that is even close to being this bad!

It?s worse every week, I said in another post Vandy is everybody?s Homecoming game but it?s Miss State!

No Rainbow in sight cause 2020 has brought misery.

Worst I can remember, I been watching close for over 40 years. For folks trying to compare worst single games, it ain't about that. Try comparing a worse 4 game stretch? Our D has outscored our O over 3 games and they only scored 9. Let that sink in. We've scored 21 O points in 4 games. Except for Bama, these were not top 25 Ds either.

[sonof34]

Lots of rot to cut out left to us by Sloppy Joe.

Next year, with a spring, we will be much better.

You?re an idiot across two boards...just stop

[Matt3467]

Worst I can remember, I been watching close for over 40 years. For folks trying to compare worst single games, it ain't about that. Try comparing a worse 4 game stretch? Our D has outscored our O over 3 games and they only scored 9. Let that sink in. We've scored 21 O points in 4 games. Except for Bama, these were not top 25 Ds either.

You're not seeing the picture here. We have a 10 game SEC schedule. Look at '08 and compare only the SEC games that year to how we've done so far this year. Now imagine Croom played a full SEC schedule and that was his 5th year...

[R2Dawg]

You're not seeing the picture here. We have a 10 game SEC schedule. Look at '08 and compare only the SEC games that year to how we've done so far this year. Now imagine Croom played a full SEC schedule and that was his 5th year...

Not saying Croom was great but that was 08 as the wheels had come completely off. Croom was stubborn too and would not adapt. McCorvey was his OC and they run the WCO if it works or not. Sound familiar? SEC Ds figured out the air raid in one game? Think about that for a minute. It took one game to figure out. We have no plan B. It is just do what don't work better?

You know what definition of insanity is?

[RocketDawg]

I kind of doubt Costello will be available next weekend.

I don't want to see anyone get hurt, but Costello being out will help because Rodgers will get all the reps this week. And Leach can't do a damn thing about it. The back-ups will be Justin Stolberg and Alan Walters- two walk-ons.

He looked really dazed after that hit last night, and was shaky walking off the field, so he probably won't be allowed to play against Vandy.

[RocketDawg]

Worst I can remember, I been watching close for over 40 years. For folks trying to compare worst single games, it ain't about that. Try comparing a worse 4 game stretch? Our D has outscored our O over 3 games and they only scored 9. Let that sink in. We've scored 21 O points in 4 games. Except for Bama, these were not top 25 Ds either.

We were pretty bad in the '60s but it seems like we always, or usually at least, played well against the Bear/Alabama. We're probably worse this year.

[Lord McBuckethead]

You must be under 12 years old......

See, there was this game back on September 14th where the Mississippi State offense managed a whopping 129 yards of total offense, and the team they did that to was ranked the number 9 team in the country at the time.

Yes, this offense is bad but just like I?ve said the last two years under Moorhead, there has certainly been worse.

Alabama would have beaten that Auburn team by 80 pts.

[Todd4State]

We were pretty bad in the '60s but it seems like we always, or usually at least, played well against the Bear/Alabama. We're probably worse this year.

Totally different era. And based on perception not always totally accurate. Teams didn't score in the 60's like they do now. Beating someone 21-0 then is about like beating someone 35-0 now.

[Joebob]

You are wrong. There hasn't been worse. This is the worst 4 game stretch in history. Especially when you account for the rules of the game today and the modernation of offenses.

That's true. With the rules the way they are, eleven grandmas should be able to score 30 points.

[NCDawg]

Totally different era. And based on perception not always totally accurate. Teams didn't score in the 60's like they do now. Beating someone 21-0 then is about like beating someone 35-0 now.

Except in 1969, when Houston beat us 74-0.

[maroonmania]

I kind of doubt Costello will be available next weekend.

I don't want to see anyone get hurt, but Costello being out will help because Rodgers will get all the reps this week. And Leach can't do a damn thing about it. The back-ups will be Justin Stolberg and Alan Walters- two walk-ons.

Hate if for KJ but Rogers needs to be the QB from here on out. This year is in the dumpster anyway so we are really playing to have a team ready for next year. It does the program no good to start a grad transfer QB this year only to start over with a new QB next year without much game experience. The other thing is we just don't have an OL that can protect for a guy that can't move in the pocket and KJ can't. He looks like Marino after multiple knee surgeries trying to move around back there. Rogers can roll out of there when needed and avoid sacks. Bad issue I guess is what do we do if Will gets hurt as well. I don't even know who our 3rd QB is at the moment?

[SheltonChoked]

I can?t even think if there is any offense that I have watched at MSU that is even close to being this bad!

It?s worse every week, I said in another post Vandy is everybody?s Homecoming game but it?s Miss State!

No Rainbow in sight cause 2020 has brought misery.

Are you 13 years old?
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2004-09-25-louisiana-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2004-11-27-mississippi.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-09-10-auburn.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-09-17-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-09-24-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-10-01-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-10-08-florida.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-11-05-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-11-19-arkansas.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2006-08-31-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2006-09-09-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2008-10-18-tennessee.html


Some of yall forget how bad we were under Croom....

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

nm

[NCDawg]

Hate if for KJ but Rogers needs to be the QB from here on out. This year is in the dumpster anyway so we are really playing to have a team ready for next year. It does the program no good to start a grad transfer QB this year only to start over with a new QB next year without much game experience. The other thing is we just don't have an OL that can protect for a guy that can't move in the pocket and KJ can't. He looks like Marino after multiple knee surgeries trying to move around back there. Rogers can roll out of there when needed and avoid sacks. Bad issue I guess is what do we do if Will gets hurt as well. I don't even know who our 3rd QB is at the moment?

Hindsight is 20-20, but I still think Shrader would have been a better choice for this offense. The kid was talented, wasn't a bad passer, and could run. In this offense, this season with a mediocre OL, we need a QB that can run when nobody is open.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

He looked really dazed after that hit last night, and was shaky walking off the field, so he probably won't be allowed to play against Vandy.

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[R2Dawg]

Hindsight is 20-20, but I still think Shrader would have been a better choice for this offense. The kid was talented, wasn't a bad passer, and could run. In this offense, this season with a mediocre OL, we need a QB that can run when nobody is open.

Agree Shrader can complete a 2 yard pass any day. He can also throw pick 6s as good as anyone else. But he can burn the mess out of a 3 man front running. Leach would have looked like a genius but he blew it. Leach is sitting on a goldmine of talent in MS to do new innovative things with a running QB in air raid but he is stuck in 1998.

[AROB44]

Agree Shrader can complete a 2 yard pass any day. He can also throw pick 6s as good as anyone else. But he can burn the mess out of a 3 man front running. Leach would have looked like a genius but he blew it. Leach is sitting on a goldmine of talent in MS to do new innovative things with a running QB in air raid but he is stuck in 1998.

Nope....MS 5 star talent is equal to AL 3 star talent.

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Nope....MS 5 star talent is equal to AL 3 star talent.

Why is that? Is it coaching and/or facilities? Mississippi has had some the best of the best. Just curious, you would think that regardless of state, the cream always rises to the top.

[Hambone]

Are you 13 years old?
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2004-09-25-louisiana-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2004-11-27-mississippi.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-09-10-auburn.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-09-17-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-09-24-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-10-01-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-10-08-florida.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-11-05-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2005-11-19-arkansas.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2006-08-31-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2006-09-09-mississippi-state.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2008-10-18-tennessee.html


Some of yall forget how bad we were under Croom....

This is what I’ve been saying as well. Yes, there MAY not have been a 4 game stretch where we didn’t score as much as a 4 game stretch under Croom, but I guarandamntee you Leach will not have the same results over a 5 year span.

[R2Dawg]

Nope....MS 5 star talent is equal to AL 3 star talent.

Not buying that. I've seen 50 years of ball combined in both states up close.

More NFL talent per capita in MS than anywhere else. Bama keeps more of their talent but I don't think they have much more D1 talent. I have lived in Alabama for 25 years watching 3-7A ball. I don't see it being really any better. I also grew up in MS and played ball against 1-4A talent and there is some serious unknown talent in some of the smaller schools. Hence Chris Jones at Houston. No one knew about him till last minute.

[yjnkdawg]

I hate to agree on this basedog, but I have too. We had some lean offensive years prior to JWS, but nothing to compare to what we have witnessed so far in 2020. We need some type of effective innovative running attack. I saw Michael Davis a while back, and he looked like he could still suit up and fight for the Maroon and White on the field, and still punish and run over defensive players like he used too.

[basedog]

I hate to agree on this basedog, but I have too. We had some lean offensive years prior to JWS, but nothing to compare to what we have witnessed so far in 2020. We need some type of effective innovative running attack. I saw Michael Davis a while back, and he looked like he could still suit up and fight for the Maroon and White on the field, and still punish and run over defensive players like he used too.

Michael Davis was a man! Nothing soft about him nor that offensive line.