So will you guys agree with me now that LSU is not very good?

[Coach34]

Cant replace that many starters and keep rolling.

[Saltydog]

I think many of us knew that already......

[defiantdog]

Can't replace coaching either..... Offense is blah but that defense is awful

[msstate7]

I think many of us knew that already......

Yeah, thought it was pretty obvious quickly in our game

[Saltydog]

Naaa, just needed to get Stingley back.......******

[Cooterpoot]

LSU looks like a team without coaching on both sides. Play calling is bad and defense is horrible. Muschamp might be back there next year.

[msstate7]

Naaa, just needed to get Stingley back.......******

Gotta admit, I did think stingley would make them better. I was wrong

[HailStateSZN19]

Will you agree that you were horribly wrong about our defense so far?

[Coach34]

Yeah, thought it was pretty obvious quickly in our game

It wasnt to quit a few around here the day after our game.

[Hambone]

But wait, their backups are WAY better than us........

So is this your way of saying we are worse than we think we are?

Just trying to get the narrative straight.

[Coach34]

Will you agree that you were horribly wrong about our defense so far?

Our D is going to give up over 30 PPG. Nothing wrong about it

[HailStateSZN19]

Our D is going to give up over 30 PPG. Nothing wrong about it

Double down and don’t admit where you’ve been just blatantly wrong while starting a thread to try and claim you’re some genius and have been right about LSU. Never change C34 lol.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

SEC is an offensive league now. Defense needs to be opportunistic and limit big plays.

[Todd4State]

SEC is an offensive league now. Defense needs to be opportunistic and limit big plays.

Which is exactly what Arnett's defense is designed to do- and has so far through two games.

[Cooterpoot]

Defense is better than expected but we haven't faced a good team yet.

[Jack Lambert]

The only people who thought they were going to be good were those lazy sports writers and commentators and your average dumbass corndog.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

I was going to approach this year as fan in giving the staff the benefit of the doubt regardless of what happens. I got sucked in by the LSU victory, but I?m back to being pleasantly surprised with any positive results. Hell, any state fan with any experience should take that approach anyway!

[msu15]

Our D is going to give up over 30 PPG. Nothing wrong about it

Well so far that haven't given up over 30 once, so you're running out of time.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Even I got excited after LSU and I am a huge pessimist after going through college during the Croom years. I predicted 4-6 this year which I still think will be the case. I just originally thought we would beat Ark and lose to LSU. Wins vandy, Missouri and 1 or aTm/Aub/Ole Miss

[DownwardDawg]

Cant replace that many starters and keep rolling.

100%. They suck. Most of us expected them to be a 6-4 type team. Don't see that now.

[HailStateSZN19]

Defense is better than expected but we haven't faced a good team yet.

Offense ain’t the problem for LSU. That’s easy to see. Is it anywhere close to last year? No but their offense hasn’t been the problem.

And not talking directly to you because you just said that our defense is better than expected, but if our defense sucked like most thought it would, then why would it matter if we’ve played anyone really good yet? If they sucked, LSU woulda put up more than 27 on them and UPig woulda scored more than 14. But our so-far solid defense held them to those #’s. If they sucked, they woulda given up 30+ to each of those teams.

[Todd4State]

No reason to apologize or feel bad about beating a good team OR a team we were "supposed to" beat on the road.

[Coach34]

Well so far that haven't given up over 30 once, so you're running out of time.

We're at 27.5 right now and we have some good offenses coming.

http://cfbstats.com/2020/leader/911/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.html

[ShotgunDawg]

LSU wasn't a great win, but outside of beating Bama or UGA, which SEC teams would be good wins this year?

[Jarius]

We're at 27.5 right now and we have some good offenses coming.

http://cfbstats.com/2020/leader/911/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.html

Our defense has given up 14 and 24 points. The PPG may well end up over 30 but it's misleading.

[HailStateSZN19]

We're at 27.5 right now and we have some good offenses coming.

http://cfbstats.com/2020/leader/911/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.html

That’s factoring in the 2 pick 6’s. Nice try. The defense is giving up 20.5 PPG.

27 vs LSU + 14 vs UPig = 20.5 PPG which is 19th in the country before this weekend.

Also 19th in yards allowed per game at around 350 ypg.

[Bothrops]

So much is up in the air this season. Bama is the only sure thing...again

[Jarius]

That’s factoring in the 2 pick 6’s. Nice try. The defense is giving up 20.5 PPG.

27 vs LSU + 14 vs UPig = 20.5 PPG which is 19th in the country before this weekend.

Also 19th in yards allowed per game at around 350 ypg.

24 to LSU. They kicked a field goal after we gave them the ball on about the 15 yard line.

[Coach34]

That’s factoring in the 2 pick 6’s. Nice try. The defense is giving up 20.5 PPG.

27 vs LSU + 14 vs UPig = 20.5 PPG which is 19th in the country before this weekend.

Also 19th in yards allowed per game at around 350 ypg.

Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div

[Commercecomet24]

That’s factoring in the 2 pick 6’s. Nice try. The defense is giving up 20.5 PPG.

27 vs LSU + 14 vs UPig = 20.5 PPG which is 19th in the country before this weekend.

Also 19th in yards allowed per game at around 350 ypg.

Yeah the 2 pick 6s ain't on the defense

[HailStateSZN19]

24 to LSU. They kicked a field goal after we gave them the ball on about the 15 yard line.

Yeah that’s fair, and even more so helps my point. So we’re at 19 PPG on defense.

If they sucked as bad as C34 and others preached they would, they’d still be giving up 30+ PPG and a hell of a lot more yards than 350 YPG.

Lot of ball left to play but the reason I’m going at him on this is because he preaches his opinions like their facts and when he’s wrong, he dodges it and won’t take responsibility for a crappy take. If we wind up sucking and these first couple games have been a mirage, I’ll admit I was wrong. C34 just makes excuses and creates threads like this claiming he’s right on something else.

[HailStateSZN19]

Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div

You believe whatever you want to C34. That’s the shittiest excuse to back up your blatantly wrong take I’ve ever seen. But I expect nothing less from you lol. Defense has given up 24 and 14 points. Period.

[TNDawg35]

Yeah the 2 pick 6s ain't on the defense

Of course it is of it helps the great football god’s (C34) narrative. Remember, he knows everything...

[Cooterpoot]

Offense ain?t the problem for LSU. That?s easy to see. Is it anywhere close to last year? No but their offense hasn?t been the problem.

And not talking directly to you because you just said that our defense is better than expected, but if our defense sucked like most thought it would, then why would it matter if we?ve played anyone really good yet? If they sucked, LSU woulda put up more than 27 on them and UPig woulda scored more than 14. But our so-far solid defense held them to those #?s. If they sucked, they woulda given up 30+ to each of those teams.

Who has LSU played? State, Vandy, & MO. None of which are defensive juggernauts. LSU looks bad on both sides of the ball to me. Again, defense is better than I expected regardless, but I'm not sure how good yet.

[DownwardDawg]

Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div

Lol. No dude. You don't get that one.

[Offshore Dawg]

AS of now the win at LSU doesn't look very good and the loss to Bacon U still looks bad. But I am just glad to have Football.

[Hambone]

Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div

Ok, after this statement you should change your username to Assistant Coach34

That’s some dumb ass reasoning right there.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div

Your attempt to move the goalposts to fit your narrative is hilarious. If your argument had been that our defense will be good coming into the season, you would never count the pick 6s.

Of course the official record books say that we are giving up 27.5 PPG. But anyone with any shred of common sense knows that our actual DEFENSE is only giving up 20.5 PPG.

You also said that Leach?s offense can work against zone coverage, but it would never work against SEC man to man defenses because we wouldn?t have time to get the passes off. That was laughably wrong.

[Cowbell]

Cant replace that many starters and keep rolling.

Is this your way of saying that you were wrong about LSU before the game?

[BeardoMSU]

Ok, after this statement you should change your username to Assistant Coach34

That’s some dumb ass reasoning right there.

C34 in this thread, lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6_IZK-1naY&ab_channel=MacBarron

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div

Hahahaha i literally loled, thats the shittiest logic ive ever seen and you know it.

Nobody in the history of football has EVER said "our defense sucks" and actually means "Our O is really bad at not throwing pic 6s"

Does special teams "become the defense" when we punt? If ST gives up 3 returns for TDs should the D get blamed for that? Come on man

[BeardoMSU]

Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div

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[Jarius]

Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div

Everyone knows how it works. It doesn’t mean that it’s a misleading stat. The players you said were going to suck on our defense don’t suck (so far). Using our offense throwing pick 6‘s to prove a point about our defense is embarrassing.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Your attempt to move the goalposts to fit your narrative is hilarious. If your argument had been that our defense will be good coming into the season, you would never count the pick 6s.

Of course the official record books say that we are giving up 27.5 PPG. But anyone with any shred of common sense knows that our actual DEFENSE is only giving up 20.5 PPG.

You also said that Leach?s offense can work against zone coverage, but it would never work against SEC man to man defenses because we wouldn?t have time to get the passes off. That was laughably wrong.

Oh man i forgot about that! He 100% said man to man Ds would beat this O. What a clown

[Commercecomet24]

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[WinningIsRelentless]

Our D is going to give up over 30 PPG. Nothing wrong about it

Well so far they haven?t given up that 30 ppg. So keep trying.

[R2Dawg]

Defense is better than expected but we haven't faced a good team yet.

LSU on O is pretty good, not great but they are averaging nearly 40 a game.

SEC looks like UGA and Bama and that is it. Everyone else is just middle of road.

[Todd4State]

And that Arkansas loss isn't looking quite as bad at the moment either.

[Commercecomet24]

And that Arkansas loss isn't looking quite as bad at the moment either.

Yep to high after lsu and to low after arky. As usual the truth is always somewhere in the middle