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msstate7
10-10-2020, 11:17 AM
Kyle Pitts may be the best offensive weapon in the sec

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 11:32 AM
Mullen may have to fire Grantham

Why couldn't Mullen recruit a TE at MSU?

99jc
10-10-2020, 11:58 AM
Mullen may have to fire Grantham

Why couldn't Mullen recruit a TE at MSU?

He did Dak Prescott.

KOdawg1
10-10-2020, 12:03 PM
Mullen may have to fire Grantham

Why couldn't Mullen recruit a TE at MSU?

He had several that went on to the NFL. He just never figured out a way to use them.

Todd4State
10-10-2020, 12:18 PM
Mullen may have to fire Grantham

Why couldn't Mullen recruit a TE at MSU?

Because Scott Sallach was our tight ends coach for awhile.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 12:18 PM
Surely USM is gonna hire freeze, right?

KOdawg1
10-10-2020, 12:25 PM
Jimbo just botched that timeout

msstate7
10-10-2020, 12:25 PM
What the hell is aTm doing on this drive with the TOs?!!!

KOdawg1
10-10-2020, 12:27 PM
It's amazing that people who get paid all these millions can't manage timeouts

msstate7
10-10-2020, 12:30 PM
If mond is even close to this next week, we'll be shredded. Now he's very inconsistent, so he may not be

99jc
10-10-2020, 12:33 PM
If mond is even close to this next week, we'll be shredded. Now he's very inconsistent, so he may not be

Lets get through tonight before we call next week a loss!

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 12:34 PM
If mond is even close to this next week, we'll be shredded. Now he's very inconsistent, so he may not be

Arnett will fool him some.

Grantham has been figured out.

Arnett will he figured out at some point in his career. They all get figured out.

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 12:38 PM
Surely USM is gonna hire freeze, right?

They can't afford him.

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 12:39 PM
Mond is very up and down. He looks good today but UF is going to need to clean up their defensive issues if they want to beat UGA and they may struggle with Tenn too

Homedawg
10-10-2020, 12:40 PM
They can't afford him.

This.

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 12:40 PM
That LSU win isn't looking too impressive anymore. Lose tonight, and we a doormat team.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 12:52 PM
Arnett will fool him some.

Grantham has been figured out.

Arnett will he figured out at some point in his career. They all get figured out.

I don't know if grantham has been figured out or not, but he may be the only thing that keeps Florida out of playoffs. Florida offense is championship level, but the defense is flat out awful right now

msstate7
10-10-2020, 12:53 PM
Florida defense has had about 2-3 chances to get a pick, and failed to every chance. They just can't make plays

msstate7
10-10-2020, 12:56 PM
Florida defense finally gets a stop

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 01:03 PM
Mullen's offense with good WRs is ridiculous

Just a shame he couldn't get any at MSU.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:05 PM
It seems like Florida gets bailed out at every turn in this game. Hands to the face can be called like every play

Maroonthirteen
10-10-2020, 01:07 PM
Kyle Pitts is very good. NFL good. We saw that when he man-handled OMs defenders.

LSU is decent but not top 10 good. For us to win there, was a good win. However, it wasn't a top 10 win.

I think we see this afternoon that Arkansas is much much improved.

HoopsDawg
10-10-2020, 01:09 PM
Kyle Pitts is very good. NFL good. We saw that when he man-handled OMs defenders.

LSU is decent but not top 10 good. For us to win there, was a good win. However, it wasn't a top 10 win.

I think we see this afternoon that Arkansas is much much improved.

LSU is trash. Mizzou just fumbled on their own 2 yard line to give LSU a TD. Mizzou muffed a punt earlier to give LSU another TD. LSU only up 7.

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 01:11 PM
Jimbo getting booed. Couldn't happen to a slimier sack of crap.

Lord McBuckethead
10-10-2020, 01:12 PM
It seems like Florida gets bailed out at every turn in this game. Hands to the face can be called like every play

And then the ticky tack unsportsman as Reese decleats someone 5 seconds after the whistle.

Lord McBuckethead
10-10-2020, 01:12 PM
Jimbo getting booed. Couldn't happen to a slimier sack of crap.

Agreed. Mond is going to turn it over here.

Lord McBuckethead
10-10-2020, 01:15 PM
Jimbo knows it too. 6 straight run plays.

Bdawg
10-10-2020, 01:18 PM
And then the ticky tack unsportsman as Reese decleats someone 5 seconds after the whistle.

Didn't see the play, but how is it ticky tack if 5 seconds after the whistle?

Bdawg
10-10-2020, 01:18 PM
aTm just shoved it down FL throat

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:19 PM
aTm just shoved it down FL throat

That was embarrassing for Florida

Lord McBuckethead
10-10-2020, 01:20 PM
Actually a smart play by Jimbo there. Mond is going to lose the game for you. He doesn't have what is needed to beat someone more talented. Keep it on the ground. Take it out of Mond's hands. Dude will lose it for you 3:1 more than win it for you.

Lord McBuckethead
10-10-2020, 01:20 PM
Reese was the UF guy. His was correctly called. The aTm guy just came in and shoved a little. Refs called offsetting.

Lord McBuckethead
10-10-2020, 01:22 PM
That was embarrassing for Florida

Everyone has tried to line up and finesse against UF so far this season. No one has just lined up and went hat to hat with them. I bet Grantham is havibg a convo right now.

Bdawg
10-10-2020, 01:22 PM
Reese was the UF guy. His was correctly called. The aTm guy just came in and shoved a little. Refs called offsetting.

I see

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:22 PM
That drive after the TO seemed like jimbo said to his team, you wanna push and shove, well shove it down their throats. They did too

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:24 PM
May be a big injury for our game next week

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 01:25 PM
A&M at 25% capacity. My ass!

Anyone seen McKinely Jackson?

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:26 PM
Mullen with a dumb TO

Lord McBuckethead
10-10-2020, 01:27 PM
aTm has too many fans congested at the 50 yards line. So much for social distancing at the game.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:28 PM
1 score game in 3rd, and Mullen has 1 TO

Lord McBuckethead
10-10-2020, 01:28 PM
A&M at 25% capacity. My ass!

Anyone seen McKinely Jackson?

On the sidelines they are easily at 75% endzones are really bare though.

Bdawg
10-10-2020, 01:29 PM
A&M at 25% capacity. My ass!

Anyone seen McKinely Jackson?

Think he hurt Brown by accident celebrating. And yeah more like 40-50%. Is that a rule or what?

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:30 PM
Gotta screen

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:42 PM
Hard to believe spiller is the same guy as last year. He has made a big jump in breaking tackles

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 01:42 PM
That FL defense is soft as baby crap.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:44 PM
Is Ed O gonna lose to a 1st year sec coach again this year in only game 3?

TrapGame
10-10-2020, 01:46 PM
Buy/Sell: Bo Pelini won't be the DC at LSU next year.

Buy!

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:46 PM
Florida needs to throw it every play

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 01:47 PM
LSU basically lost all their coaching. Ed O is more a figurehead. If they don?t have good coordinators they will have bad years. I give LSU credit though the format worked to get them a title.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:47 PM
Pitts is a cheat code

parabrave
10-10-2020, 01:49 PM
So who breaks Costellos' record when they play LSU? Trask, Corrall of The Bama QB?

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:51 PM
So who breaks Costellos' record when they play LSU? Trask, Corrall of The Bama QB?

Doubt they break it. They'll be so far ahead that they'll run the ball to milk clock

msstate7
10-10-2020, 01:52 PM
Jimbo and Dan playing the waste TO game

msstate7
10-10-2020, 02:12 PM
These are good teams.

KOdawg1
10-10-2020, 02:14 PM
Whew A&M is gonna throw all over our tails next week. Good news for us is Mond's inconsistency, so maybe he gives a few to keep us in it.

KOdawg1
10-10-2020, 02:15 PM
Receiver who has been torching UF all day and just caught that TD pass went down holding his knee so we might not have to worry about him next week

HancockCountyDog
10-10-2020, 02:18 PM
I?m starting to think LSU may not be good.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 02:21 PM
Grantham, lol

Commercecomet24
10-10-2020, 02:22 PM
Dan gonna have to get a new dc if he's ever gonna win the sec and his time management still sucks

Maroonthirteen
10-10-2020, 02:23 PM
Upset alert! Danny Boy.... nc hopes circling the drain.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 02:23 PM
Big win for aTm

parabrave
10-10-2020, 02:24 PM
I?m starting to think LSU may not be good.

Their O is good, Brennan is doing better than I thought he would but their D is total Crap.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 02:24 PM
Upset alert! Danny Boy.... nc hopes circling the drain.

Not really, they can still run the table and win sec. They won't bc of the defense, but they could

parabrave
10-10-2020, 02:25 PM
Big win for aTm

Dan Chokes. Granatham is having busses running all over his ass about now.

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 02:25 PM
That?s a shame

msu15
10-10-2020, 02:27 PM
Big Game Dan on the road.

99jc
10-10-2020, 02:27 PM
That?s a shame

17 Jimbo!

Commercecomet24
10-10-2020, 02:27 PM
Meghan gonna have to shop in Orlando this week

Commercecomet24
10-10-2020, 02:28 PM
Not really, they can still run the table and win sec. They won't bc of the defense, but they could

They'll lose 2 more games with this defense

Maroonthirteen
10-10-2020, 02:28 PM
Not really, they can still run the table and win sec. They won't bc of the defense, but they could

I realize it probable but..... I thought UF was better than this. Bama can take them.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 02:29 PM
Schedule very favorable for aTm now... at tenn and at auburn are only real roadblocks. I'm sure I'll catch hell for this statement, but they're obviously better than us

msstate7
10-10-2020, 02:29 PM
I realize it probable but..... I thought UF was better than this. Bama can take them.

Georgia too.

KOdawg1
10-10-2020, 02:30 PM
We need LSU to win

msu15
10-10-2020, 02:30 PM
Schedule very favorable for aTm now... at tenn and at auburn are only real roadblocks. I'm sure I'll catch hell for this statement, but they're obviously better than us

Yea I don't feel as confident about that game as I did 2 weeks ago.

DownwardDawg
10-10-2020, 02:31 PM
Big game Dan

KOdawg1
10-10-2020, 02:33 PM
Yea I don't feel as confident about that game as I did 2 weeks ago.

Ask me after tonight lol. I have to see that we can beat a zone

msstate7
10-10-2020, 02:33 PM
Does Ed o survive a 3-7 type season? I'm guessing yeah, but that extension looks bad right now

KOdawg1
10-10-2020, 02:35 PM
LSU goes down. We beat a bad football team.

parabrave
10-10-2020, 02:36 PM
Dam LSU can't get it in from the 1 yard line.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 02:36 PM
Dam LSU can't get it in from the 1 yard line.

Vs mizzou

parabrave
10-10-2020, 02:37 PM
LSU goes down. We beat a bad football team.

Well I'm not going to give someone credit but he was correct when he said we beat a bad LSU team.

Maroonthirteen
10-10-2020, 02:39 PM
LSU isn't even decent.

Their defense.....turrible.

HancockCountyDog
10-10-2020, 02:42 PM
LSU isn't even decent.

Their defense.....turrible.

They can?t run the ball and can?t protect the QB.

They just lost to a really rough Mizzou team.

VandelayIndustries
10-10-2020, 02:43 PM
Brennan has been really good, their defense is god awful. Never understood bringing back Pelini

msstate7
10-10-2020, 02:45 PM
Brennan has been really good, their defense is god awful. Never understood bringing back Pelini

That's the problem with Ed O. When you crap out on a cood, you're screwed. Most HCs can overcome a bad hire some at least. Ed o can't

parabrave
10-10-2020, 02:46 PM
The way today is turning out I'm glad I took the sharks and the points. Tenn quick score against UGA.

Todd4State
10-10-2020, 03:04 PM
That's the problem with Ed O. When you crap out on a cood, you're screwed. Most HCs can overcome a bad hire some at least. Ed o can't

That is the problem with the average head coach/elite coordinator model. OC/DC's are going to want to eventually move on most of the time no matter how much you pay them- see Dave Aranda. That's just natural for any business really. People want to better themselves and understandibly so. So teams like LSU have to keep hitting on elite OC/DC's every time or they could be in a pickle where they end up overpaying for a coordinator that is not that good- like Ole Miss did with McGriff.

Offshore Dawg
10-10-2020, 04:13 PM
They can't afford him.

They can't afford the backpacks.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 04:20 PM
Good thing we hired Moorhead instead of Pruitt since he doesn?t know what asparagus is. 21-17 Tennessee at the half

BeardoMSU
10-10-2020, 04:37 PM
Arkansas hangin' tough with Auburn so far.

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 04:40 PM
AU isn't good. No OL or defense. God our offense was awful last week.

msu15
10-10-2020, 04:43 PM
Good thing we hired Moorhead instead of Pruitt since he doesn?t know what asparagus is. 21-17 Tennessee at the half

That whole cycle was smoked by Cohen.

BeardoMSU
10-10-2020, 04:43 PM
AU isn't good. No OL or defense. God our offense was awful last week.

We should've won that game 20 different ways. I'm still sick thinking about it. KJ sliding short of the 1st is wtf exhibit A.

Commercecomet24
10-10-2020, 04:49 PM
We should've won that game 20 different ways. I'm still sick thinking about it. KJ sliding short of the 1st is wtf exhibit A.

Agree 100%

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 04:49 PM
The SEC is AL and nobody else this year. Covid is a field leveler.

the_real_MSU_is_us
10-10-2020, 04:51 PM
We should've won that game 20 different ways. I'm still sick thinking about it. KJ sliding short of the 1st is wtf exhibit A.

If he mans up and gets the 1st... ifhe hits that routine 5 yard pass on 4th down... if ML takes points whem he should... if our punt returner could field... if our secondary didnt blow that one assignment... if KJ didnt throw that pic 6... if kj didnt throw the other picks... if KJ had taken underneath stuff instead of looking downfield...

Yeah, theres a lot of way we should have won

Commercecomet24
10-10-2020, 04:51 PM
The SEC is AL and nobody else this year. Covid is a field leveler.

Yeah it appears the sec has achieved some level of parity. Covid the great equalizer. I'm just glad to see college football. It's been entertaining since the sec started.

Commercecomet24
10-10-2020, 04:52 PM
If he mans up and gets the 1st... ifhe hits that routine 5 yard pass on 4th down... if ML takes points whem he should... if our punt returner could field... if our secondary didnt blow that one assignment... if KJ didnt throw that pic 6... if kj didnt throw the other picks... if KJ had taken underneath stuff instead of looking downfield...

Yeah, theres a lot of way we should have won

Yeah it was nightmarish, ugly.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 04:53 PM
I think we're going to see weird stuff all year in college football.

All these teams have flaws and are susceptible to playing bad

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 04:54 PM
Guarantana is guaranteed to give you the game if you let him

BeardoMSU
10-10-2020, 04:56 PM
If he mans up and gets the 1st... ifhe hits that routine 5 yard pass on 4th down... if ML takes points whem he should... if our punt returner could field... if our secondary didnt blow that one assignment... if KJ didnt throw that pic 6... if kj didnt throw the other picks... if KJ had taken underneath stuff instead of looking downfield...

Yeah, theres a lot of way we should have won

A perfect storm.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 05:14 PM
Georgia and Tennessee can play defense

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:16 PM
Georgia and Tennessee can play defense

They're better than the other SEC teams, except maybe Bama, but the QB play in this game is butt hole. Both UGA and TN have QBs that wouldn't start for anyone else, except may Vandy

That tends to make the defense look better

To put the QB play in persperctive, Felipe Franks would make both of these teams better

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:18 PM
Arkansas is hanging with Auburn

Commercecomet24
10-10-2020, 05:24 PM
Arkansas is hanging with Auburn

Arky defense is pretty dang good. Offense not so much.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 05:26 PM
Arkansas is hanging with Auburn

Not sure why you like this. They've apparently passed us already... beat us on field, and they're outrecruiting us.

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 05:30 PM
Arkansas is hanging with Auburn

AU isn't good. They're running out of players too.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:31 PM
Not sure why you like this. They've apparently passed us already... beat us on field, and they're outrecruiting us.

Simmer down Judy. They haven't passed us and we've got more 4 stars committed and will sign more 4 stars.

Any "out recruiting" us they are currently doing is based on a 3 star being an 85 instead an 87 or 88, which is highly inaccurate

msstate7
10-10-2020, 05:32 PM
State fans shouldn't be hoping ark wins this game. This is the kind of loss that auburn won't put up with... replacing Gus with a good coach is bad news for us

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:33 PM
Franks just showed why he isn't any good.

He just threw a 2 point conversation pass away

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 05:34 PM
Simmer down Judy. They haven't passed us

Lose tonight and I'll disagree. They hired two good coordinators. We've got to prove our offense will work. Another shit show like last week and the doubters will out weigh the believers.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:34 PM
State fans shouldn't be hoping ark wins this game. This is the kind of loss that auburn won't put up with... replacing Gus with a good coach is bad news for us

Dude, it's just the SEC. Everyone replaces coaches.

Should we also want to lose to Auburn so they don't replace Gus?

Coaching changes also usually hurt recruiting for a minute or two.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:35 PM
Lose tonight and I'll disagree. They hired two good coordinators. We've got to prove our offense will work. Another shit show like last week and the doubters will out weigh the believers.

They hired two good coordinators that they'll lose pretty soon. This is another Eddy O type coaching hire that isn't sustainable because the head coach isn't an Xs and Os guy

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 05:37 PM
They hired two good coordinators that they'll lose pretty soon. This is another Eddy O type coaching hire that isn't sustainable because the head coach isn't an Xs and Os guy

Briles still has baggage and Odom was a bad HC. I don't see them leaving in the next couple years. Briles will get a shot at some point though.

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 05:39 PM
AU looks out of shape

msstate7
10-10-2020, 05:39 PM
They hired two good coordinators that they'll lose pretty soon. This is another Eddy O type coaching hire that isn't sustainable because the head coach isn't an Xs and Os guy

What you basing Pittman failing on? Bc I see one of the best turn arounds I've saw in a while

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:40 PM
Briles still has baggage and Odom was a bad HC. I don't see them leaving in the next couple years. Briles will get a shot at some point though.

We'll see. I'm not worried about Arkansas.

If we're good enough to compete for the West soon, Arkansas won't be a factor in stopping that. They're very limited

msstate7
10-10-2020, 05:41 PM
We'll see. I'm not worried about Arkansas.

If we're good enough to compete for the West soon, Arkansas won't be a factor in stopping that. They're very limited

Competing for the west? Are you high?

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:41 PM
What you basing Pittman failing on? Bc I see one of the best turn arounds I've saw in a while

He's never been a coordinator. That's a pretty good sign.

He's got them playing sound, fundamental football and playing hard, but what they're doing is incredible limited if the other team plays sound fundamental football as well.

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 05:41 PM
We'll see. I'm not worried about Arkansas.

If we're good enough to compete for the West soon, Arkansas won't be a factor in stopping that. They're very limited

We aren't competing for the West soon.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:43 PM
Competing for the west? Are you high?

You're being an idiot today and emotional for no reason.

Not discussing anything with you today unless you temper down and think logically.

Arkansas will not stand in the way of MSU being a good team. They're limited. We don't really compete with them for recruits and they won't be dynamic enough under Pittman to beat us if we're better than a 7 win type team.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:44 PM
We aren't competing for the West soon.

I didn't say we would be. I just mean that when we're good, they won't be a factor

msstate7
10-10-2020, 05:44 PM
I think leach will be successful by our standards. When he gets his system rolling, we'll win 7-9 games most years. Recruiting in the 30s and throwing constantly though will put a ceiling on our program though imo. I do think it will be fun though

Percho
10-10-2020, 05:44 PM
If we don't loose another game will we be competing for the west this year?

msstate7
10-10-2020, 05:47 PM
If we don't loose another game will we be competing for the west this year?

Yeah, totally could happen....

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 05:47 PM
I didn't say we would be. I just mean that when we're good, they won't be a factor

Sure you did "If we're competing for the west soon". That's a big IF. We're at a minimum two years from being really Improved IMO. And we better sign some D talent next round if that's going to happen.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:47 PM
I think leach will be successful by our standards. When he gets his system rolling, we'll win 7-9 games most years. Recruiting in the 30s and throwing constantly though will put a ceiling on our program though imo. I do think it will be fun though

He'll recruit better than the 30s.

I think he gets in the top 30 this year with the worst instate class in a decade or more

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:49 PM
Sure you did "If we're competing for the west soon". That's a big IF. We're at a minimum two years from being really Improved IMO. And we better sign some D talent next round if that's going to happen.

My point was simply that Arkansas floor has been raised, but I see nothing to suggest that their ceiling has been raised. If we're good, they won't be an issue. If we're mediocre, then Arkansas will be an issue.

Pittman looks like he's building a 5-7 win type program. I don't see much more with the style they play and the assurance that they'll lose coordinators soon

msstate7
10-10-2020, 05:50 PM
He'll recruit better than the 30s.

I think he gets in the top 30 this year with the worst instate class in a decade or more

If he can get in the 20s and occasionally upper teens, that would change my opinion. I do think leach will struggle with upper level sec teams bc of talent deficit though, and we can probably go ahead and write a loss to someone we shouldn't lose to in with a pen too.

Commercecomet24
10-10-2020, 05:54 PM
Outside of bama at the very top and Vandy at the very bottom looks like everyone else is pretty dang close. Lot of parity this year.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:55 PM
If he can get in the 20s and occasionally upper teens, that would change my opinion. I do think leach will struggle with upper level sec teams bc of talent deficit though, and we can probably go ahead and write a loss to someone we shouldn't lose to in with a pen too.

I think it'll be different that Mullen.

I think the air raid evens out the game a good bit because it take so much of the trench warfare out of the game where more talented teams typically dominate. That also works against us though with teams we are more talented than.

I think with Leach, we'll see more upsets of blue bloods while also losing a few more to Arkansas type teams, but I'm perfectly fine with that. Having the ability to beat a blue blood every once in a while brings hope that you can win big.

I'll take that over Mullen's style

msstate7
10-10-2020, 05:57 PM
Outside of bama at the very top and Vandy at the very bottom looks like everyone else is pretty dang close. Lot of parity this year.

Georgia, Florida, and aTm are all good teams imo. That's my top 4 with a good bit of distance to #5. Now 5-14, anything could happen.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:57 PM
If he can get in the 20s and occasionally upper teens, that would change my opinion. I do think leach will struggle with upper level sec teams bc of talent deficit though, and we can probably go ahead and write a loss to someone we shouldn't lose to in with a pen too.

He will recruit solid. I think we're going to pull an out of state 5 star at some point and the WR recruiting should be really good, which should raise our recruiting range due it being a position we've historically recruited terribly at

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 05:57 PM
Everyone needs to realize Leach was a solid B hire. No doubt he will win big games and lose some clunkers almost every year. I think Cohen did well given the choices of 2019/2020, but if it was true Clawson was interested or Whittingham before Moorhead I?m not sure what he was thinking with the hires he made. 2018 should?ve been Whittingham 1 and Neal Brown 2. Last year should?ve been Clawson 1 though

Cowbell
10-10-2020, 05:58 PM
State fans shouldn't be hoping ark wins this game. This is the kind of loss that auburn won't put up with... replacing Gus with a good coach is bad news for us

This kind of thinking right here is what Separates the haves from the have-nots in this world. Sometimes I don't know why you are on this board vs. being on the aggie board,

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:58 PM
Georgia, Florida, and aTm are all good teams imo. That's my top 4 with a good bit of distance to #5. Now 5-14, anything could happen.

A&M is bipolar. If they were playing Arkansas in their 1st game instead of Vandy, they would've lost as well.

I need more evidence of consistency from A&M before believing they're good

Quaoarsking
10-10-2020, 05:59 PM
So the fact that Arkansas can compete and possibly win on the road at Auburn should calm everyone down a little bit about our game last week.

It still sucks that we lost, but the people insisting that Arkansas hasn't improved a lot since last year were clearly way wrong.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 05:59 PM
Everyone needs to realize Leach was a solid B hire. No doubt he will win big games and lose some clunkers almost every year. I think Cohen did well given the choices of 2019/2020, but if it was true Clawson was interested or Whittingham before Moorhead I?m not sure what he was thinking with the hires he made. 2018 should?ve been Whittingham 1 and Neal Brown 2. Last year should?ve been Clawson 1 though

This makes my head spin.

There is virtually no evidence that Leach was a B hire

msstate7
10-10-2020, 05:59 PM
This kind of thinking right here is what Separates the haves from the have-nots in this world. Sometimes I don't know why you are on this board vs. being on the aggie board,

Newsflash... what state is or isn't on the field has nothing to do with what I believe

Commercecomet24
10-10-2020, 05:59 PM
A&M is bipolar. If they were playing Arkansas in their 1st game instead of Vandy, they would've lost as well.

I need more evidence of consistency from A&M before believing they're good

This and Florida's defense is so bad they can lose to anyone in fact I'll say Florida will lose 2 more games this year

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:00 PM
So the fact that Arkansas can compete and possibly win on the road at Auburn should calm everyone down a little bit about our game last week.

It still sucks that we lost, but the people insisting that Arkansas hasn't improved a lot since last year were clearly way wrong.

Arkansas has consistently recruiting around us in the rankings, so they were massively underachieving. It appears to me that Pittman has raised them to kind of what they should be.

Commercecomet24
10-10-2020, 06:00 PM
So the fact that Arkansas can compete and possibly win on the road at Auburn should calm everyone down a little bit about our game last week.

It still sucks that we lost, but the people insisting that Arkansas hasn't improved a lot since last year were clearly way wrong.

Arky has greatly improved.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:03 PM
Ark may have just got a huge turnover

Quaoarsking
10-10-2020, 06:03 PM
This makes my head spin.

There is virtually no evidence that Leach was a B hire

Leach was an A+ hire at Texas Tech and an A++++ hire at Washington State. I doubt he'll drop all the way down to a B for us.

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 06:05 PM
There is nothing wrong with a B hire. I?m not by any means saying it?s bad. But Leach has been coaching for 15+ years with 1 divisional title.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:06 PM
Leach was an A+ hire at Texas Tech and an A++++ hire at Washington State. I doubt he'll drop all the way down to a B for us.

What constitutes an A here? Mullen never won much of anything that mattered, but he was clearly an A in my mind. 7-9 wins (including bowl) a year by leach is an A hire without really elevating the program

Quaoarsking
10-10-2020, 06:09 PM
What constitutes an A here? Mullen never won much of anything that mattered, but he was clearly an A in my mind. 7-9 wins a year by leach is an A hire without really elevating the program

Mullen finished ranked 3 times in 9 years (2010, 2014, 2017, getting screwed by stupid voters in 2015), was in the mix for the West in November 3 times in 9 years (2014, 2015, 2017). More importantly, he convinced us to stop accepting mediocrity. Without Mullen elevating our expectations, most of our fans would have been happy with Moorhead going to 2 bowls and beating Ole Miss twice, rather than demanding he be fired. I agree that he's an A hire.

I think Leach will probably be a little more successful on W/L record and beating "big name" teams, but who knows if he'll take us to Atlanta. He never played in a Big 12 or Pac-12 championship game, despite regularly being in the mix for it.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:13 PM
Who the hell is smith for Arkansas? Is he the next alvin kamara? Joke, but that kid is killing auburn

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 06:16 PM
Arkansas is much improved. It makes sense we lost to them and beat LSU now. At first I thought it was a Leach thing but LSU might be the worst team in the west this year as crazy as that is

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:17 PM
Arkansas good God

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:17 PM
Auburn on the ropes

Cowbell
10-10-2020, 06:18 PM
Auburn is badly out of shape. We will win that game.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:18 PM
Arkansas is much improved. It makes sense we lost to them and beat LSU now. At first I thought it was a Leach thing but LSU might be the worst team in the west this year as crazy as that is

They're much better.

I don't love Franks, but he is experienced and I think that's really really helped them. Franks doesn't give away the game. He makes you beat them

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 06:20 PM
They're much better.

I don't love Franks, but he is experienced and I think that's really really helped them. Franks doesn't give away the game. He makes you beat them

Agree 100 percent. Ark might not win this one but they will win some games this year. They are using the LSU coordinator model and it?s working for them this year. Although Pittman might be a better head coach than Eddie O. Time will tell

msu15
10-10-2020, 06:21 PM
Malzahn's job might be on the line again here.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:22 PM
Worth noting... ark has gone unsuccessfully for 2 2-pt attempts. That would be a 3 pt lead. May end up costing him

Todd4State
10-10-2020, 06:24 PM
Arkansas is following the LSU model of a coach that is charismatic and a good recruiter and then hire elite OC/DC. That model can work IF the school continues to find elite OC/DC because as we saw with LSU those coordinators will leave to further their career at some point. Probably best case scenario with that model is a program that is a roller coaster- see LSU last year vs. this year.

bobtail bob
10-10-2020, 06:25 PM
What kind of weird call will allow Auburn to win this ?

Todd4State
10-10-2020, 06:26 PM
Mullen finished ranked 3 times in 9 years (2010, 2014, 2017, getting screwed by stupid voters in 2015), was in the mix for the West in November 3 times in 9 years (2014, 2015, 2017). More importantly, he convinced us to stop accepting mediocrity. Without Mullen elevating our expectations, most of our fans would have been happy with Moorhead going to 2 bowls and beating Ole Miss twice, rather than demanding he be fired. I agree that he's an A hire.

I think Leach will probably be a little more successful on W/L record and beating "big name" teams, but who knows if he'll take us to Atlanta. He never played in a Big 12 or Pac-12 championship game, despite regularly being in the mix for it.

Mullen was a great hire for where we were in 2009 no question about that. We'll see what comes of Leach. I'm not really too concerned with SEC titles especially as long as Saban is at Alabama.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:26 PM
Oh boy. Arky gonna win

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:26 PM
Ark needs 2 1st downs

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:28 PM
Smith has been great today, but he can't go backwards there. Just dive toward LOS

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 06:29 PM
Everyone needs to realize Leach was a solid B hire. No doubt he will win big games and lose some clunkers almost every year. I think Cohen did well given the choices of 2019/2020, but if it was true Clawson was interested or Whittingham before Moorhead I?m not sure what he was thinking with the hires he made. 2018 should?ve been Whittingham 1 and Neal Brown 2. Last year should?ve been Clawson 1 though

Neal Brown? LOL
Whittingham has zero interest.

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 06:29 PM
I hope someone wins soon so we don?t miss the start

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:29 PM
Tough call for ark. Do you make em use last TO? Do you pass and risk leaving them TO and over 2 mins?

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 06:30 PM
AU has no passing game. It's jump ball to Williams. AR is the lucky team this year.

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 06:30 PM
We missed on Derek Hall. He's had a solid game today.

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:30 PM
Auburn gonna win

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:31 PM
We missed on Derek Hall. He's had a solid game today.

He's solid. I'm not sure he's better than what we've got. Equalish

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 06:35 PM
Auburn will win but this game isn?t going to help Gus on the hot seat

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:35 PM
Can you do that?

Fumble a snap and then throw a pass?

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 06:36 PM
That was a backwards pass

parabrave
10-10-2020, 06:36 PM
Well 2 of the 3 SEC tigers will have Coach bonfires tonight.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:36 PM
That was a backwards pass

This is a cluster. Arkansas just got screwed

WeWonItAll(Most)
10-10-2020, 06:37 PM
Can you do that?

Fumble a snap and then throw a pass?

Is spiking it backwards not essentially a lateral? Like throwing a backwards screen pass?

ETA: announcers just brought it up too

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:37 PM
Was there an immediate recovery?

Cooterpoot
10-10-2020, 06:38 PM
Nix holds AU back.

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:38 PM
Was there an immediate recovery?

They blew the whistle. Complete bungle by the SEC.

Only Auburn....

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:39 PM
Nix holds AU back.

He's blah

Most overrated recruit in years

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:39 PM
Arkansas just got 17ed

ShotgunDawg
10-10-2020, 06:40 PM
Just completely unfair what just happened

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:41 PM
Just completely unfair what just happened

Even if they say it's backwards, there was a whistle, so it would have to be an immediate recovery. There wasn't, so back to spot of fumble, right?

vv83
10-10-2020, 06:42 PM
Why was there not a 10 yard penalty? They ruled it intentional grounding? I don't get it

PGHBulldogBG
10-10-2020, 06:42 PM
Sorry arkansas the opposing team had Auburn on their helmet tonight not miss state. You would?ve got that call back Miss State

msstate7
10-10-2020, 06:43 PM
Why was there not a 10 yard penalty? They ruled it intentional grounding? I don't get it

It's a spot foul with loss of down

vv83
10-10-2020, 06:44 PM
It's a spot foul with loss of down

Thought it was loss of down and 10 yards from previous spot