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Homedawg
09-30-2020, 10:23 PM
My take on LSU game.

Biggest take is this, we were the more physical team. Which is odd to say for a team that ran for 9 bet yards but we were


LSU defense isn't bad. Actually i think it will be pretty good. We made them look way worse than what they are. Kudos to our offense. kJ was way more precise w his decisions than preseason. We had one drop?? Austin made several tough catches in traffic and will be valuable in tough yard downs. Not much to say about wr group other than they are way improved. Hill is hill in space. But he taps out way too much. Line was decent if not better. Dolla bull obviously had issues but he's learning and gonna be good. Remember LSU defense isn't bad they have athletes!! .....

Defense- I watched us scrimmage and we were shoved off the ball... coverage was subpar, not much else to say. ..
But game day we played well. I'm not sold that we are good on defense. Not close but game day we did enough . Now I've said before that juco development was huge to us no matter how good or bad we had to grow up quick. Davis and wheat have stepped it up quickly. Also, I said Arnett is really good, when we stink ina game, and we will, don't get down on him, he's good!!


ST- very solid. Just don't screw it up. We didn't.

Overall- hard to complain when we beat a very talented LSU team. Down yes, talented , very!!

ShotgunDawg
09-30-2020, 10:38 PM
Good post Home.

Every game that we can play without being exposed on defense is one game closer to us being a good defense. We got a real shot of doing that with Arkansas and Kentucky in the next two games, not the most explosive offenses. We’ve got to use the next two game to get more experienced and sound defensively so that we give ourselves a chance vs A&M and Bama.

I like what we have in the front 7. The emergence of Crumedy and Spencer along with Pickering playing well, Errol losing weight, Brule looking outstanding, & Wheat and Davis being ahead of schedule, I believe gives us a quality front 7 that can make teams 1 dimensional. Coverage has to be cleaned up though. LSU missed a ton of plays

As for Costello, he did say the light came on last Tuesday, so maybe that’s the explanation. Maybe he just got in that magic number of reps where everything becomes clear

Commercecomet24
09-30-2020, 10:40 PM
Good assessment. We are well coached football team. We played physical, tough and disciplined. Loved the effort and no real stupid penalties until the personal foul at the end. Love our new kicker! Guy was right down the middle, plenty of leg, got the ball up quick and hit the clutch kick that put us in then lead for good. Appreciate what you said about Arnett. He's gonna be a good one and we can't jump on him when we have a bad game. We are further ahead than what I thought we'd be because we missed all that practice time because of you know what.

Commercecomet24
09-30-2020, 10:44 PM
One more thing. Our defense didn't miss tackles and they played fast and aggressive. You can play that way when you've been coached well and taught your assignments and where you're supposed to be. Also kudos to Nathan and Crumedy for clogging up the middle all day long.

Homedawg
09-30-2020, 10:46 PM
Good post Home.

Every game that we can play without being exposed on defense is one game closer to us being a good defense. We got a real shot of doing that with Arkansas and Kentucky in the next two games, not the most explosive offenses. We’ve got to use the next two game to get more experienced and sound defensively so that we give ourselves a chance vs A&M and Bama.

I like what we have in the front 7. The emergence of Crumedy and Spencer along with Pickering playing well, Errol losing weight, Brule looking outstanding, & Wheat and Davis being ahead of schedule, I believe gives us a quality front 7 that can make teams 1 dimensional. Coverage has to be cleaned up though. LSU missed a ton of plays

As for Costello, he did say the light came on last Tuesday, so maybe that’s the explanation. Maybe he just got in that magic number of reps where everything becomes clear
As for kj, maybe so, maybe he clicked, he was a step slow making a throw when I saw him and he was stil ahead of our d. Thus my concerns. W that said, I was just as concerned that we wouldn't stop the run. And we had a great package this week to stop them. We still have no depth for a team that pounds us over and over....!either way game one was good I'll take it!!

Homedawg
09-30-2020, 10:48 PM
Brule was a player.... no doubt. Crumedy is good. Only better from here.

Homedawg
09-30-2020, 10:48 PM
Good assessment. We are well coached football team. We played physical, tough and disciplined. Loved the effort and no real stupid penalties until the personal foul at the end. Love our new kicker! Guy was right down the middle, plenty of leg, got the ball up quick and hit the clutch kick that put us in then lead for good. Appreciate what you said about Arnett. He's gonna be a good one and we can't jump on him when we have a bad game. We are further ahead than what I thought we'd be because we missed all that practice time because of you know what.

Spot on

Homedawg
09-30-2020, 10:49 PM
One more thing. Our defense didn't miss tackles and they played fast and aggressive. You can play that way when you've been coached well and taught your assignments and where you're supposed to be. Also kudos to Nathan and Crumedy for clogging up the middle all day long.

Again agree. Out of rep!

Homedawg
09-30-2020, 10:50 PM
That's what thing, lack of missed tackles by us sat was almost amazing. Can't say enough about that... don't notice them until you have them.

HailStateSZN19
09-30-2020, 11:08 PM
The tackling 100% caught me off guard. Usually in game 1 in a normal season, you have some tackling issues. With all the s**t that has been going on and very limited practice time, to tackle as well as we did....wow. That's all you can say. Arnett is LEGIT. I hope we can hold onto him for a couple of years, I really really want to see him with some experienced, legit MSU type defensive talent. He's a boss.

It's incredible how well-conditioned we are too. I guess that's the benefit of having your WR's run 8-10 miles every practice and having your defense chase after them all day. That can ease a little of the concerns on depth because guys are just in ridiculously good shape. Shoutout to Tyson Brown too. I was skeptical on him when we hired him simply because I didn't know anything about him and my dumbass just assumed "well I bet WSU doesn't have a S&C worth a damn" and boy was I ever wrong.

Our WR's....I mean just wow. They look like completely different guys. Are we sure these are the same WR's that were on roster last year? Just goes to show you how poorly they were coached the last 2 years. They still have plenty of room to improve and continue getting better but Mitchell looks like a guy who has found his confidence. Javonta looks like a track star running those seam/fly routes up the sideline with DB's trailing him by 2-3 yards. Austin looks like he's ready to show it on the field and be that security blanket. Shavers, holy s**t that release at the line was absolutely filthy and I think he's going to REALLY get going the next 2-3 games, he's got some in-game experience now and gotten his feet wet. And just think, we did what we did with Heath getting 1 catch for 1 yard, the guy we all were banking on and putting all the pressure on to be THE WR for us this season coming into the offseason. He'll get acclimated and boy once he gets going.....

All I can say for KJ is sit back and enjoy this guys and gals. We're watching a future 1st round QB sit back and sling it around 50-60 times every game this year. Kid is special.

Kylin is Kylin and is going to turn himself into a 2nd round draft pick because of a wise business decision to come back and play in this offense.

Homedawg
09-30-2020, 11:23 PM
I'll stand by I was told ducking is really good

ShotgunDawg
09-30-2020, 11:28 PM
I'll stand by I was told ducking is really good

I forgot about him.

Did he play Saturday?

HailStateSZN19
09-30-2020, 11:46 PM
I'll stand by I was told ducking is really good

Homedawg, you expect Tulu and Walley to get more run going forward? Tulu was super hyped up during fall camp and I don’t recall him lining up at WR like at all. Walley was rumored to have had some really good scrimmages and he got a target and had that pass ripped away from him. Do you think either of them turn into contributors this year?

defiantdog
09-30-2020, 11:59 PM
Arnett wants to make sure the defense is disciplined and know their assignments. They'll get better as the season moves on..... I expect more accountability as the season goes on as well. LSU showed no creativity, which helped our defense since they were extremely vanilla. But an innovator on offense can really expose us. Arnett knows this and I'm sure he's doing everything to fix it.

TaleofTwoDogs
10-01-2020, 12:39 AM
My take aways in order of wow factor:

1) Conditioning - Night and day over what we saw in 2018 & 2019. Those years were embarrassing.
2) Conditioning - See above
3) Tackling - No misses. Sweet.
4) Fundamentals - Get the basics right - run, throw, catch and tackle and your half way home for the win
5) Coaching - nuff said
6) Talent - Who were those guys in maroon? Football is back, baby.

FISHDAWG
10-01-2020, 07:03 AM
My take on LSU game.

Biggest take is this, we were the more physical team. Which is odd to say for a team that ran for 9 bet yards but we were


LSU defense isn't bad. Actually i think it will be pretty good. We made them look way worse than what they are. Kudos to our offense. kJ was way more precise w his decisions than preseason. We had one drop?? Austin made several tough catches in traffic and will be valuable in tough yard downs. Not much to say about wr group other than they are way improved. Hill is hill in space. But he taps out way too much. Line was decent if not better. Dolla bull obviously had issues but he's learning and gonna be good. Remember LSU defense isn't bad they have athletes!! .....

Defense- I watched us scrimmage and we were shoved off the ball... coverage was subpar, not much else to say. ..
But game day we played well. I'm not sold that we are good on defense. Not close but game day we did enough . Now I've said before that juco development was huge to us no matter how good or bad we had to grow up quick. Davis and wheat have stepped it up quickly. Also, I said Arnett is really good, when we stink ina game, and we will, don't get down on him, he's good!!


ST- very solid. Just don't screw it up. We didn't.

Overall- hard to complain when we beat a very talented LSU team. Down yes, talented , very!!

all good points ... what I noticed after the re-watch was we seemed to get better and better as the game progressed. Some of this could be due to conditioning or play calling or adjustments or whatever ...... all I know is that in the past it seemed like the closer we were to the finish line the more conservative (or maybe tired) we got but it certainly wasn't the case Saturday

Homedawg
10-01-2020, 07:54 AM
Homedawg, you expect Tulu and Walley to get more run going forward? Tulu was super hyped up during fall camp and I don’t recall him lining up at WR like at all. Walley was rumored to have had some really good scrimmages and he got a target and had that pass ripped away from him. Do you think either of them turn into contributors this year?

Tulu is going to be really good. But Walley is more likely to get a lot of opportunities this year I think. Barring injury that is.

HailStateSZN19
10-01-2020, 07:59 AM
Tulu is going to be really good. But Walley is more likely to get a lot of opportunities this year I think. Barring injury that is.

Nice! Thanks for the info. I think Walley is going to be a star in the future in this offense. All-SEC type WR. That’s my own personal prediction for him. He’s my guy I’m riding with for the future.

RiverCityDawg
10-01-2020, 08:06 AM
Tulu is going to be really good. But Walley is more likely to get a lot of opportunities this year I think. Barring injury that is.

Is it fair to say Cam Gardner is keeping Tulu off the field right now? There's really only room for two Xs. I'm guessing Cam is more "consistently good" which you would expect from an older guy.

Walley doesn't seem to have as much competition to deal with behind Austin at Y, so I can see how he would have more opportunities, just based on position if nothing else. Also, this offense seems to get the Y involved better than the X, at least from what I watched in 2018 & 2019 plus our first game.

msu15
10-01-2020, 09:16 AM
Good post Home.

Every game that we can play without being exposed on defense is one game closer to us being a good defense. We got a real shot of doing that with Arkansas and Kentucky in the next two games, not the most explosive offenses. We’ve got to use the next two game to get more experienced and sound defensively so that we give ourselves a chance vs A&M and Bama.

I like what we have in the front 7. The emergence of Crumedy and Spencer along with Pickering playing well, Errol losing weight, Brule looking outstanding, & Wheat and Davis being ahead of schedule, I believe gives us a quality front 7 that can make teams 1 dimensional. Coverage has to be cleaned up though. LSU missed a ton of plays

As for Costello, he did say the light came on last Tuesday, so maybe that’s the explanation. Maybe he just got in that magic number of reps where everything becomes clear
We're a front 6 not a front 7.

Captain Falcon
10-01-2020, 09:22 AM
Defensively we just need our DL and LB's to keep being a a big factor. The secondary just is what it is, there are some young guys playing hard for us back there but they're just going to get burned at times this year, just have to protect those guys with pressure as best as we can. If teams are able to whip us at the line of scrimmage then our defense will be in trouble. I think we should be fine on that front against Arkansas but Kentucky will be a big test. I expect them to try and run it down our throats and play keep away with the occasional deep shot off play action. Very similar to what they did when we played them in 2018, and it worked that night against a better defense than this one. Obviously our offense is much better now, but the power run is Stoops's bread and butter and UK is strong at the line of scrimmage this year. We'll worry about that more next week but I do think that's going to be our next big challenge on defense.

Just want to see consistency this week on D. Against LSU I thought our tackling and pressure was very good, coverage was hit or miss. Get a little bit better this week and then build some more confidence as we head into what will be a tough road game in Lexington. Arkansas has some talent at the skill positions so they're capable of hurting us a bit if we play poorly. But if we are good up front again then I don't see us having a ton of issues.

chef dixon
10-01-2020, 09:35 AM
1 game sample size but biggest difference on D for me is that guys that we just assumed were what they were are much improved: Kobe, Spencer, Peters, Preston (although he did decent at the end of the year last year) etc. Also young guys and new-comers were a lot more ready than we expected: Crumedy, Pickering, Brule, Wheat, Davis etc. Hell even our freshman looked ready when their number was called. Credit the new coaching staff for getting that out of all these guys instead of waiting and hoping for it to happen.

Johnson85
10-01-2020, 10:04 AM
1 game sample size but biggest difference on D for me is that guys that we just assumed were what they were are much improved: Kobe, Spencer, Peters, Preston (although he did decent at the end of the year last year) etc. Also young guys and new-comers were a lot more ready than we expected: Crumedy, Pickering, Brule, Wheat, Davis etc. Hell even our freshman looked ready when their number was called. Credit the new coaching staff for getting that out of all these guys instead of waiting and hoping for it to happen.

Don't forget Errol. I'm still a little worried about LSU's OL being bad more than our DL being improved, but Errol regressing hurt the defense last year. Not sure if it was the terrible S&C program or just the scheme putting him in bad position or asking him to do things he can't do, but based on teh samll sample size we have so far, it doesn't look like that's going to be a problem.

Johnson85
10-01-2020, 10:07 AM
Defensively we just need our DL and LB's to keep being a a big factor. The secondary just is what it is, there are some young guys playing hard for us back there but they're just going to get burned at times this year, just have to protect those guys with pressure as best as we can. If teams are able to whip us at the line of scrimmage then our defense will be in trouble. I think we should be fine on that front against Arkansas but Kentucky will be a big test. I expect them to try and run it down our throats and play keep away with the occasional deep shot off play action. Very similar to what they did when we played them in 2018, and it worked that night against a better defense than this one. Obviously our offense is much better now, but the power run is Stoops's bread and butter and UK is strong at the line of scrimmage this year. We'll worry about that more next week but I do think that's going to be our next big challenge on defense.

Just want to see consistency this week on D. Against LSU I thought our tackling and pressure was very good, coverage was hit or miss. Get a little bit better this week and then build some more confidence as we head into what will be a tough road game in Lexington. Arkansas has some talent at the skill positions so they're capable of hurting us a bit if we play poorly. But if we are good up front again then I don't see us having a ton of issues.

It didn't really work. THey were given a couple of scores early by some terrible calls that probably went against us because our team was undisciplined and acting like asses. But we mostly shut them down and got the ball back for the offense quickly. It's just our offense just even be mildly competent, so our D wore out around the end of the third quarter after playing most of the first three quarters. I don't think we'll have a problem with our offense being mildly competent. Just have to worry about our D wearing out anyway because we don't have depth.

AmiteDog
10-01-2020, 10:10 AM
As for kj, maybe so, maybe he clicked, he was a step slow making a throw when I saw him and he was stil ahead of our d. Thus my concerns. W that said, I was just as concerned that we wouldn't stop the run. And we had a great package this week to stop them. We still have no depth for a team that pounds us over and over....!either way game one was good I'll take it!!

That is the thing tho. This isnt 1995 or even 2005. I dont think there is a team anymore that has the mentality to pound it.

No team ran for 200 yards last week. The top rushing team in attempts last week was Ole Miss and I dont think anybody really fears their rushing attack.

The rushing numbers were downright ugly last week. Only 3 teams averaged more than 4 yards per carry.

It is just not an identity anymore. Everybody wants to pass.

Todd4State
10-01-2020, 10:25 AM
That is the thing tho. This isnt 1995 or even 2005. I dont think there is a team anymore that has the mentality to pound it.

No team ran for 200 yards last week. The top rushing team in attempts last week was Ole Miss and I dont think anybody really fears their rushing attack.

The rushing numbers were downright ugly last week. Only 3 teams averaged more than 4 yards per carry.

It is just not an identity anymore. Everybody wants to pass.

Welcome to football 2020!

Tbonewannabe
10-01-2020, 11:15 AM
It didn't really work. THey were given a couple of scores early by some terrible calls that probably went against us because our team was undisciplined and acting like asses. But we mostly shut them down and got the ball back for the offense quickly. It's just our offense just even be mildly competent, so our D wore out around the end of the third quarter after playing most of the first three quarters. I don't think we'll have a problem with our offense being mildly competent. Just have to worry about our D wearing out anyway because we don't have depth.

It didn't help that JoeMo had Fitz throwing 20-30 yard passes and never running with the ball in a rainstorm.

Turfdawg67
10-01-2020, 01:29 PM
Guess it takes 4 days to remove egg from face?

Percho
10-01-2020, 02:42 PM
WR I think I saw GS rush the punter on one play.

Homedawg
10-01-2020, 04:47 PM
Guess it takes 4 days to remove egg from face?

Nope. I don't have any egg on my face.

Turfdawg67
10-01-2020, 05:36 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/qMTrcCyp/AD5-EFCBD-402-E-4-A37-9-B42-6-B649-BFC04-CE.gif
Nope. I don't have any egg on my face.

KOdawg1
10-01-2020, 05:47 PM
Guess it takes 4 days to remove egg from face?

The guy who was wrong to begin with is not nearly as annoying as the guy who constantly brags about the guy being wrong. 90% of your posts fit that mold. Let it go. Enjoy the win.

Turfdawg67
10-01-2020, 05:53 PM
The guy who was wrong to begin with is not nearly as annoying as the guy who constantly brags about the guy being wrong. 90% of your posts fit that mold. Let it go. Enjoy the win.

The day I start taking advice from you, or your ilk, is the day I start rooting for OM. Which is never. So, go to hell brah, and 17 these "know-it-all" fans that shit on State and the fans that are optimistic! Ignore me if you don't like it.

KOdawg1
10-01-2020, 05:56 PM
The day I start taking advice from you, or your ilk, is the day I start rooting for OM. Which is never. So, go to hell brah, and 17 these "know-it-all" fans that shit on State and the fans that are optimistic!

Haha. Okay. So you claim others are know-it-alls, while at the same time berating people who are wrong. It's a message board man. Half the shit people say on here ends up being wrong. Being negative isn't shitting on state. That's where you're confused old man.

Turfdawg67
10-01-2020, 06:07 PM
Haha. Okay. So you claim others are know-it-alls, while at the same time berating people who are wrong. It's a message board man. Half the shit people say on here ends up being wrong. Being negative isn't shitting on state. That's where you're confused old man.

OMG (that's hip with the younger generation) no, I was only "bashing" the self-anointed "know-it-all's" that were epically wrong last week. It's so fun. Just like toying with you. Don't worry about me, I'm Soooo enjoying our win!

KOdawg1
10-01-2020, 06:12 PM
OMG (that's hip with the younger generation) no, I was only "bashing" the self-anointed "know-it-all's" that were epically wrong last week. It's so fun. Just like toying with you. Don't worry about me, I'm Soooo enjoying our win!

7 was right. You are an angry little elf.

gravedigger
10-01-2020, 06:17 PM
Haha. Okay. So you claim others are know-it-alls, while at the same time berating people who are wrong. It's a message board man. Half the shit people say on here ends up being wrong. Being negative isn't shitting on state. That's where you're confused old man.

If you are big enough to be an arrogant ass AND WRONG then be big enough to take the beating for being that way.

And saying "half the shit people say ends up being wrong" doesn't fly when they can't take what they dish out.

Grow some thicker skin or stfu.

Turfdawg67
10-01-2020, 06:20 PM
7 was right. You are an angry little elf.

Weak. But I'll take it as your peace offering. But, before I go...
https://i.postimg.cc/0yNHs8DT/7-AA0-E4-ED-0344-4-A3-F-9116-398-DDB860550.gif

KOdawg1
10-01-2020, 06:20 PM
If you are big enough to be an arrogant ass AND WRONG then be big enough to take the beating for being that way.

And saying "half the shit people say ends up being wrong" doesn't fly when they can't take what they dish out.

Grow some thicker skin or stfu.

I don't see anyone not being able to take a beating. But the only time the dude shows up is to point out when someone is wrong. That's his only contribution to the board. And nah, I'm good.

Lord McBuckethead
10-01-2020, 06:24 PM
Don't forget Errol. I'm still a little worried about LSU's OL being bad more than our DL being improved, but Errol regressing hurt the defense last year. Not sure if it was the terrible S&C program or just the scheme putting him in bad position or asking him to do things he can't do, but based on teh samll sample size we have so far, it doesn't look like that's going to be a problem.

Half of Errol issue last year is he was theoretically trying to cover for Gay and the other Chemistry 10 not being on the field. We effectively played with only 73 schollies last year and most of those were the parts of the defense that would help Errol. That and he was noticeably a step or two fat slow. Mostly because he was trying to do too much. Hence why he was always behind the play. IMHO.

Either way, Brule needs some recognition. Other than the cramp he had, dude was all over the place. Bet ole St Stanislaus dude still has daytime terrors of him flashing in his face all day.

Turfdawg67
10-01-2020, 06:56 PM
I don't see anyone not being able to take a beating. But the only time the dude shows up is to point out when someone is wrong. That's his only contribution to the board. And nah, I'm good.

Fine. I'll post more with half-assed takes like y'all.

Homedawg
10-01-2020, 09:07 PM
Fine. I'll post more with half-assed takes like y'all.

I'll just sit here and wait for what you bring to the table.... tic toc. Nothing. Not phased by you.

FISHDAWG
10-02-2020, 07:27 AM
If you are big enough to be an arrogant ass AND WRONG then be big enough to take the beating for being that way.

And saying "half the shit people say ends up being wrong" doesn't fly when they can't take what they dish out.

Grow some thicker skin or stfu.

repped !!