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Quaoarsking
09-27-2020, 08:44 AM
Trevor Lawrence is probably still the frontrunner, but if you can throw for 623 yards and win against LSU in Baton Rouge, you'll be putting up huge numbers all year against everyone.

If we go 7-3 or better, KJ is surely a finalist.

KOdawg1
09-27-2020, 08:46 AM
If he throws for 380 yards against Arkansas next week, which is certainly doable, he'll have 1,000 yards in 2 games. Think about that.

viverlibre
09-27-2020, 08:47 AM
If he keeps up this pace, he'll win it.

msstate7
09-27-2020, 08:49 AM
To win the heisman in the sec, you have to beat bama.

DownwardDawg
09-27-2020, 09:01 AM
To win the heisman in the sec, you have to beat bama.

Yep. Unfortunately the Heisman is not for the best player in college football anymore. Hasn't been for a while. It's a popularity contest between the big schools.

basedog
09-27-2020, 09:15 AM
Way too early but he looks the part.

ShotgunDawg
09-27-2020, 09:29 AM
Yes.

He's a first round QB playing in the air raid with a good OL.

TNDawg35
09-27-2020, 09:41 AM
He’s legit, but we all know he won’t win it. Bama is still Bama. But A&M and Auburn looked like horse shit yest. And people can say all they want about oh well it was their first game and their only gonna get better. Yea well, so will we...

Spiderman
09-27-2020, 09:51 AM
To win the heisman in the sec, you have to beat bama.

yep

Spiderman
09-27-2020, 09:51 AM
Yep. Unfortunately the Heisman is not for the best player in college football anymore. Hasn't been for a while. It's a popularity contest between the big schools.

yep

IMissJack
09-27-2020, 10:10 AM
Trevor Lawrence is probably still the frontrunner, but if you can throw for 623 yards and win against LSU in Baton Rouge, you'll be putting up huge numbers all year against everyone.

If we go 7-3 or better, KJ is surely a finalist.

Great human interest story. Transfer from Stanford to Starkville, and the SEC. Sports is looking for these kinds of stories right now.

Quaoarsking
09-27-2020, 10:12 AM
In the last decade, QBs from Baylor and Louisville (not "big schools") won the Heisman in years where their teams were good, but not contender for national title good.

BeardoMSU
09-27-2020, 10:13 AM
In the last decade, QBs from Baylor and Louisville (not "big schools") won the Heisman in years where their teams were good, but not contender for national title good.

Tebow won it when Florida lost 3 or 4 games, right?

Hambone
09-27-2020, 10:21 AM
If we go 9-1 and that only loss is to Bama but he puts up gigantic numbers, he?ll win the heisman.

They are not the win all lose all when it comes to that reward.

Hell, the QB from Louisville won it and he wasn?t even the best QB in his conference. (It was Deshaun Watson)

Quaoarsking
09-27-2020, 10:39 AM
Tebow won it when Florida lost 3 or 4 games, right?

Yes, these are the last 13 winners, along with the team's record as of the day they won.

2007 - Tim Tebow, Florida, 9-3, never in national title conversation
2008 - Sam Bradford, Oklahoma, 12-1, had been selected for BCSNCG
2009 - Mark Ingram, Alabama, 13-0, had been selected for BCSNCG
2010 - Cam Newton, Auburn, 13-0, had been selected for BCSNCG
2011 - Robert Griffin III, Baylor, 9-3, never in national title conversation
2012 - Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, 10-2, never in national title conversation
2013 - Jameis Winston, Florida State, 13-0, had been selected for BCSNCG
2014 - Marcus Mariota, Oregon, 12-1, had been selected for Playoff
2015 - Derrick Henry, Alabama, 12-1, had been selected for Playoff
2016 - Lamar Jackson, Louisville, 9-3, had lost last 2 games to be out of Playoff contention
2017 - Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma, 12-1, had been selected for Playoff
2018 - Kyler Murray, Oklahoma, 12-1, had been selected for Playoff
2019 - Joe Burrow, LSU, 13-0, had been selected for Playoff


Yes, most of the time, it goes to a player on a Playoff team, but 4 times in the last 13, it's gone to a player from a team not in the conversation. It's definitely not out of the question that KJ could win it if we go 8-2 or even 7-3.

msstate7
09-27-2020, 10:41 AM
Yes, these are the last 13 winners, along with the team's record as of the day they won.

2007 - Tim Tebow, Florida, 9-3, never in national title conversation
2008 - Sam Bradford, Oklahoma, 12-1, had been selected for BCSNCG
2009 - Mark Ingram, Alabama, 13-0, had been selected for BCSNCG
2010 - Cam Newton, Auburn, 13-0, had been selected for BCSNCG
2011 - Robert Griffin III, Baylor, 9-3, never in national title conversation
2012 - Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, 10-2, never in national title conversation
2013 - Jameis Winston, Florida State, 13-0, had been selected for BCSNCG
2014 - Marcus Mariota, Oregon, 12-1, had been selected for Playoff
2015 - Derrick Henry, Alabama, 12-1, had been selected for Playoff
2016 - Lamar Jackson, Louisville, 9-3, had lost last 2 games to be out of Playoff contention
2017 - Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma, 12-1, had been selected for Playoff
2018 - Kyler Murray, Oklahoma, 12-1, had been selected for Playoff
2019 - Joe Burrow, LSU, 13-0, had been selected for Playoff


Yes, most of the time, it goes to a player on a Playoff team, but 4 times in the last 13, it's gone to a player from a team not in the conversation. It's definitely not out of the question that KJ could win it if we go 8-2 or even 7-3.

Last 3 sec qbs that won it beat Bama