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[BeardoMSU]

Figured we might as well start a game thread....

Also, Dak representin'.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh01uhpVkAAA8vr?format=jpg&name=large

[ShotgunDawg]

OMG. A game thread.

First one since March

[BeardoMSU]

OMG. A game thread.

First one since March

You're welcome. I'll DM you my Venmo account***

[Cowbell]

Figured we might as well start a game thread....

Also, Dak representin'.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh01uhpVkAAA8vr?format=jpg&name=large

That's a sweet mask

[KOdawg1]

I think Dak and CeeDee Lamb show out tonight.

[KOdawg1]

The Rams new logo and helmets are atrocious btw. What they had looked good.

[BeardoMSU]

I think Dak and CeeDee Lamb show out tonight.

Word.

[ScoobaDawg]

LET'S F*CKING GO!!!!!

[KOdawg1]

Cam Akers getting the start. Good for him. I'll always be a fan for the way he said "nah" to OM

[KOdawg1]

Good Lord. The Cowboys defense getting absolutely shredded.

[msstate7]

Cam Akers getting the start. Good for him. I'll always be a fan for the way he said "nah" to OM

I think he was a steal in the draft

[TrapGame]

Cowboy's defense. Nothing's changed.

[KOdawg1]

Cowboy's defense. Nothing's changed.

The DL just got abused. How much is Jerry paying these dudes?

[KOdawg1]

The Rams are gonna burn the Cowboys all night long with this play action

[TrapGame]

Yep, Dallas has zero defense.

[BeardoMSU]

Defense is traaaaaash.

[KOdawg1]

Dink and dunk

[msstate7]

There's a break for cowboys

[ScoobaDawg]

off the goal post.. thank goodness. come on dak.. drive on down

[KOdawg1]

They wasted 8 minutes of game clock just to miss the field goal. LOL

[Cooterpoot]

Dallas looks terrible on both sides of the ball.

[KOdawg1]

I don't agree with that call

[KOdawg1]

TOUCHDOWN

Nice drive

[Homedawg]

Dallas looks terrible on both sides of the ball.

Agree on defense. But they didn't go three and out on first drive ...

[BeardoMSU]

Dak looking sharp.

[KOdawg1]

Dak looking sharp.

He's been accurate so far. Lots of short to intermediate passes and taking what the defense gives him. Hoping they take a shot down field and catch the Rams off guard here in a minute.

[KOdawg1]

Gonna have to be a shootout for Dallas to win. This defense is putrid.

[Bothrops]

Their defense is off balance big time.

[TrapGame]

As bad as the Dallas D is playing I'm surprised it's not 21-7 right now.

[KOdawg1]

Jerry needs to hit up free agency. Anyone would be better than this.

[Cooterpoot]

All these WRs and we're throwing five yard routes to the RBs. RT is trash. No moving Dak. Going to be a long year in Dallas if some things don't change.

[Cowbell]

All these WRs and we're throwing five yard routes to the RBs. RT is trash. No moving Dak. Going to be a long year in Dallas if some things don't change.
Yeah this play calling is no different then last year. What a waste of a mobile QB

[Lord McBuckethead]

I think he was a steal in the draft

Well we will get to see whatbhe has with a better Oline than he has ever played behind.

[Cooterpoot]

Dak is killing it so far.

[ScoobaDawg]

That's our boy!!!! hell yea!!!

[RocketDawg]

Dak looking sharp.

Yeah, but he's wearing white after Labor Day ....

[ScoobaDawg]

Damnit oh well he will get plenty of passing td's instead. Go ZEKE!!!

[RocketDawg]

The Rams new logo and helmets are atrocious btw. What they had looked good.

It'll take some getting used to for sure. Both colors are a little too bright.

[Cowbell]

Yeah Dak just put on a clinic in that 2 minute drill.

[KOdawg1]

It feels like the Rams should be up by two touchdowns.

[BeardoMSU]

It feels like the Rams should be up by two touchdowns.

Definitely. Dallas was a pretty good 3rd quarter team last year, so let's continue that.

[KOdawg1]

Would've been nice to get some points on the opening drive given how your defense is getting gashed.

[BeardoMSU]

Would've been nice to get some points on the opening drive given how your defense is getting gashed.

What was that play calling?

[AmiteDog]

Damn Kellen. You just killed a drive by running Zeke on first and second downs.

[KOdawg1]

What was that play calling?

Wasn't good. Would've also been better if Dak could've gotten rid of it and not taken that sack because they probably would've went for it.

[Cowbell]

What was that play calling?
Is Scott Linehan back?! There is zero creativity.

[KOdawg1]

The Cowboys DL is causing no disruption whatsoever. They're getting pushed around like rag dolls. Demarcus Lawrence has been MIA for over a year.

[KOdawg1]

Is Scott Linehan back?! There is zero creativity.

I really wish they'd utilize Dak's legs more. When you have to take into account Zeke (both running and receiving), the receivers, AND Dak's running ability, the offense would be near impossible to defend.

[chef dixon]

McVey is a really good coach. He gets every ounce out of his offensive talent.

[ScoobaDawg]

so he showboated... jumped in the air.. then landed out of bounds.. that shouldn't be a td...

[Cooterpoot]

I knew this defense would suck but this is a disgrace. Nolan is washed up and Jerry is a shitty owner/GM still.

[Cowbell]

I really wish they'd utilize Dak's legs more. When you have to take into account Zeke (both running and receiving), the receivers, AND Dak's running ability, the offense would be near impossible to defend.
Yes Dak needs to be rolling out more. And this running up the gut on 2nd and long is the equivalent of waving a white flag. It's like Holloway up the middle all over again.

[TrapGame]

Damn Kellen. You just killed a drive by running Zeke on first and second downs.

Same crappy play calling. McCarthy wanted continuity and he got it.

[KOdawg1]

Jerry needs to go sign Earl Thomas. It won't fix everything but it's a start

[KOdawg1]

Difference in the game:

The Rams' DL is getting push and causing disruption on nearly every play; The Cowboys' isn't.

[Cooterpoot]

Dallas is soft and they're very vanilla on both sides. Just horrible schemes.

[BeardoMSU]

Jerry needs to go sign Earl Thomas. It won't fix everything but it's a start

This.

[TrapGame]

So Nolan now decides to turn up the pressure?

[ScoobaDawg]

finally got some pressure and see what happens... nice!!! Come on Dak and Zeke

[KOdawg1]

Finally. See what happens when you hit the QB and collapse his pocket? Gotta score.

[KOdawg1]

Crap needed a TD there. Dak seems to be holding on to the ball a little too long. The pocket starts collapsing and he has to make off balance throws in order to get rid of it. Wish he'd start rolling out or just tuck it and go.

[BeardoMSU]

Ok, that was comical.

[TrapGame]

4th and 3...Dak should have kept it.

[Bdawg]

Good grief. At least run the route deep enough.

[State82]

WTF was that???

[ShotgunDawg]

4th and 3...Dak should have kept it.

Or Lamb could've just run the route 3 yards instead of 2

[maroonmania]

4th and 3...Dak should have kept it.

McCarthy must have CTE or something. You have to tie the game there. 4th and 3 with the defense pulled up like that is not a very high percentage especially when you have a rookie running a 2 yard route when you need 3 yards.

[State82]

McCarthy must have CTE or something. You have to tie the game there. 4th and 3 with the defense pulled up like that is not a very high percentage especially when you have a rookie running a 2 yard route when you need 3 yards.

Absolutely you tie the game. Shit I'm losing my patience with everything sports related. Damn!!

[TrapGame]

Or Lamb could've just run the route 3 yards instead of 2

...or that.

[TrapGame]

Absolutely you tie the game. Shit I'm losing my patience with everything sports related. Damn!!

Reminds me of Madden saying "Always take the 3."

[Cowbell]

In positive news, Zeke looks like he is back to rookie form and Aldon Smith is officially back.

[ShotgunDawg]

In positive news, Zeke looks like he is back to rookie form and Aldon Smith is officially back.

the Cowboys can be really good if they'll stop running on 1st down.

All 4 punts tonight have begun with runs on 1st and 10

[Cooterpoot]

No deep balls thrown all night by Dallas. Dink and dunk bullshit offense of Kellen Moore is garbage.

[ShotgunDawg]

curl left, curl right, sheesh. Throw it down the field Cowboys

[ShotgunDawg]

Boy, this Dallas TE Schultz sucks ass

[ShotgunDawg]

You can't call that there. Just brutal

[BeardoMSU]

Bull. Shit. Wow.

[AmiteDog]

Horseshit call to give the W to the Rams

[ShotgunDawg]

You just can't make that call. the game was just decided by refs.

Terrible. Absolutely terrible

[KOdawg1]

Cowboys aren't gonna be worth a damn this year

[ScoobaDawg]

that was such a horrible call... damnit.

[Cooterpoot]

I'm done watching Dallas til the Jones family all die. Because they'll never be worth a shit.

[MaroonFlounder]

Not kicking the FG was fatal. It may have at least gone OT.

Dallas sux ass

[Bdawg]

You can't call that there. Just brutal

Arm was out pretty much the whole time so he wasnt really pushing on him. DB sold that crap and refs bit. Big plays like that on penalties should be reviewable. Get it right.

[trob115]

Worst call of the week in the NFL.

Also, Kellen Moore's play-calling is horrendous. Might as well have been Scott Linehan.

[defiantdog]

I'm guessing you can't challenge pass interference if it's inside 2 minutes

[Cowbell]

No deep balls thrown all night by Dallas. Dink and dunk bullshit offense of Kellen Moore is garbage.
You were right about this team man - I give it to you. McCarthy needs to take over calling plays tomorrow.

[msstate7]

I'm guessing you can't challenge pass interference if it's inside 2 minutes

Can't challenge it, period. That's out

[maroonmania]

Cowboys aren't gonna be worth a damn this year

McCarthy is an idiot. Even Garrett would have known to take the FG to tie on a 4th and 3. Almost unheard of to see an NFL coach make a decision like that. 4th and 1 maybe but not 4th and 3. It cost Dallas the game along with that BS PI call.

[hp22]

Not kicking the FG was awful.

The offensive interference was equally awful.

The cowboys gameplan was pretty bad

[defiantdog]

Can't challenge it, period. That's out
Should've kept it..... missed calls like this are literal game changers

[bluelightstar]

Kellen Moore loves 1st down runs even more than Woody McCorvey does

[maroonmania]

Not kicking the FG was awful.

The offensive interference was equally awful.

The cowboys gameplan was pretty bad

If you dominate a game you can get away with coaching mistakes and getting some bad calls. But in games that can go either way those things will cost you every time.

[Homedawg]

Dak took one shot down the field all night they was the PI call. Had 90 to go and was throwing it 3 yards..... I love him. But that's not elite.

[Cooterpoot]

Dak took one shot down the field all night they was the PI call. Had 90 to go and was throwing it 3 yards..... I love him. But that's not elite.

That's the offense. And the OL.

[Homedawg]

If you dominate a game you can get away with coaching mistakes and getting some bad calls. But in games that can go either way those things will cost you every time.

When you get your ass kicked in a game like they did and have a chance to win you can't screw it up..... the rams were way better and tried to lose

[Cowbell]

Dak took one shot down the field all night they was the PI call. Had 90 to go and was throwing it 3 yards..... I love him. But that's not elite.

That's not all on him

[Cowbell]

Blake Jarwin our for the season and they don't have another tight end that could catch a cold.

[msstate7]

Blake Jarwin our for the season and they don't have another tight end that could catch a cold.

What's the injury?

Anything on vander esch?

[hp22]

If you dominate a game you can get away with coaching mistakes and getting some bad calls. But in games that can go either way those things will cost you every time.

Yep

And it cost dallas tonight

[defiantdog]

What's the injury?

Anything on vander esch?
Vander esch cant stay healthy for the life of him

[maroonmania]

When you get your ass kicked in a game like they did and have a chance to win you can't screw it up..... the rams were way better and tried to lose

Ass kicking is questionable, Rams were terrible in the red zone in the first half and only had one scoring drive in the 2nd. They just played ball control and got away with it because the Cowboys offense bumbled around and only got one FG themselves in the 2nd half. Cowboys run defense was abysmal though for most of the game.

[ScoobaDawg]

What's the injury?

Anything on vander esch?

Vander esch has a broken collarbone. On IR now.

[Cowbell]

What's the injury?
Anything on vander esch?

Torn ACL for Jarwin. Dude was set to have a really good year too. I was glad to see whiten leave to see jarwins athleticism.

[msstate7]

Vander esch has a broken collarbone. On IR now.

Bad night for cowboys

[Littleman]

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[ShotgunDawg]

Dak is a good, not great QB & the Cowboys will struggle to defeat teams with a good pass rush with him at QB because he can't move. When I watch Maholmes, Brees, Kyler, Rodgers, Wilson, Deshaun, etc they are so much quicker & more nimble with their feet, which leads to better pocket movement & ability to avoid the rush.

While Dak's numbers are great, they offense become very limited against good pass rushes because he can't get out of the way and create big plays out of the pocket

[BeardoMSU]

Dak is a good, not great QB & the Cowboys will struggle to defeat teams with a good pass rush with him at QB because he can't move. When I watch Maholmes, Brees, Kyler, Rodgers, Wilson, Deshaun, etc they are so much quicker & more nimble with their feet, which leads to better pocket movement & ability to avoid the rush.

While Dak's numbers are great, they offense become very limited against good pass rushes because he can't get out of the way and create big plays out of the pocket

They also do him zero favors by not including more creative packages for him...or just moving the pocket, letting him move out of it, in general. Their offense is just so bland. I didn't see a single bootleg last night. I counted a couple of screens, but I'm pretty sure those were just check downs, and not actually called plays.

[ShotgunDawg]

They also do him zero favors by not including more creative packages for him...or just moving the pocket, letting him move out of it, in general. Their offense is just so bland. I didn't see a single bootleg last night. I counted a couple of screens, but I'm pretty sure those were just check downs, and not actually called plays.

i agree with this.

The difference in offensive creativity last night between McVay and Moore was night & day

[BeardoMSU]

i agree with this.

The difference in offensive creativity last night between McVay and Moore was night & day

Very true.

Thats the thing, Dak has been putting up great numbers IN SPITE of his shitty play calling since joining the league....imagine what he would do with a McVay, Payton, or Reid?

[Tbonewannabe]

Very true.

Thats the thing, Dak has been putting up great numbers IN SPITE of his shitty play calling since joining the league....imagine what he would do with a McVay, Payton, or Reid?

Dak definitely puts in the work. Imagine if he had a decent offensive coach to learn from. Lamar Jackson is a MVP candidate but would bomb in this offense because they have no clue how to play to strengths.

[R2Dawg]

They also do him zero favors by not including more creative packages for him...or just moving the pocket, letting him move out of it, in general. Their offense is just so bland. I didn't see a single bootleg last night. I counted a couple of screens, but I'm pretty sure those were just check downs, and not actually called plays.

Sometimes I really don't like the playcalling. Dak gets in a groove and then they decide to run it three times in a row to kill the drive or two times in a row and put him in a thrid a long. It happened at least 2 or 3 times when Dak was on fire. Killed the drive and momentum.

[BeardoMSU]

Sometimes I really don't like the playcalling. Dak gets in a groove and then they decide to run it three times in a row to kill the drive or two times in a row and put him in a thrid a long. It happened at least 2 or 3 times when Dak was on fire. Killed the drive and momentum.

Oh for sure. The drive to start the 3rd quarter is exhibit A to this point. I think They got 1 fist down, but ran it like all but 1 play.

[Cowbell]

Oh for sure. The drive to start the 3rd quarter is exhibit A to this point. I think They got 1 fist down, but ran it like all but 1 play.

Exactly / kellen Moore needs to go - he has never played or coached big boy football and he doesn't know how to build momentum and keep it going. They would be better off in 2 minute drill the entire game.

[Cooterpoot]

Exactly / kellen Moore needs to go - he has never played or coached big boy football and he doesn't know how to build momentum and keep it going. They would be better off in 2 minute drill the entire game.

He's the new Clappy Clown- Jerry's boy. He shouldn't even be a QB coach.

[Hypnodawg]

The biggest problem I noticed was receivers not getting to the first down marker. Why are they running 3 yard routes when they need 4 or 5 yard routes when they need 6? Just completely mind blowing stupidity all night from an unprepared team.

[maroonmania]

Dak definitely puts in the work. Imagine if he had a decent offensive coach to learn from. Lamar Jackson is a MVP candidate but would bomb in this offense because they have no clue how to play to strengths.

Exactly, they just refuse to ever let Dak have any design runs. Guess they are afraid he will break or something. Dak is not a great scrambler but he is a dang good runner with the ball in his hands and the Cowboys don't even let him do enough of that for defenses to respect it.