MSU With the Nation?s 22nd Most Talented Team. 15th Among Teams Playing

[ShotgunDawg]

For all the ?Wegonnasuck Bros? this ain?t bad.

Here?s the link: https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

Discuss

[Liverpooldawg]

How many on the schedule were ranked ahead of us?

[BB30]

For all the ?Wegonnasuck Bros? this ain?t bad.

Here?s the link: https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

Discuss

Well when you're playing an SEC only schedule and you're 8th in the conference and you have 5 teams that you have to play that are ahead you can still be pretty talented and go .500

All I am personally looking for this year is that the intensity and effort is better and that we don't have 37 false start penalties on opening drives with another 20 delay of games.

[ShotgunDawg]

How many on the schedule were ranked ahead of us?

5 with Auburn having roughly 75 more points than us.

The difference between us and Auburn is similar to the difference between Auburn & LSU the other direction.

[ShotgunDawg]

FWIW, Wazzou is 74th in team talent

[Prediction? Pain.]

Here are the ranks within the SEC:

https://i.postimg.cc/jdjX0StB/SEC-Talent-1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/cJTR5pPd/SEC-Talent-2-2.png

So both by 247's points system and by average player rating, five opponents with more team talent, five opponents with less. The fact that we're basically tied for 8th in the league is impressive (even if the gap between us and 10 - 12 is only half as big as it is between us and the upper third of the conference). Need our position here to keep gradually going up, but that's a better starting point than we've had plenty of other times since I've been watching football.

[ShotgunDawg]

Here are the ranks within the SEC:

https://i.postimg.cc/jdjX0StB/SEC-Talent-1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/cJTR5pPd/SEC-Talent-2-2.png

Just unreal.

Bama having a complete roster of 4 & 5 stars is absurd. Not good for the sport

[Prediction? Pain.]

Just unreal.

Bama having a complete roster of 4 & 5 stars is absurd. Not good for the sport

You mean you don't like watching the same five or six teams compete for the national title every year? Nonsense!

[Cooterpoot]

Recruiting rankings are crap minus the top schools, who are obviously easy to predict.

[Hot Rock]

Recruiting rankings are crap minus the top schools, who are obviously easy to predict.

They are not complete crap but they certainly don't mean as much. There tons of really good players that never get evaluated closely.

[Dawgology]

So we play all 5 teams listed below us. Interesting

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I think this discussion brings up an interesting topic. Which would you prefer:

1) to be the 11th best team in the country but go 0-10 because you played the best 10, OR 2) be the 50th best team but be .500 because you played cupcakes?

Personally I'd rather be good, but lose more overall due to tougher competition. And I think that's what SD was getting at; we don't "suck" if we're the 22nd most talented team and have a good coaching staff. Yet others seem to be operating on the "your schedule's strength sets the bar of how good you have to be to not suck" view given their first reaction is to say "Yeah we're #22, BUT we play 5 teams higher than that"

Nothing technically wrong with either view, I just think some here might be talking past each other due to this difference in goals: Does ''success" = be a good team, or have a good record?