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msstate7
07-21-2020, 06:59 AM
https://247sports.com/college/tennessee/LongFormArticle/College-football-preseason-Top-25-rankings-Phil-Steele-2020-Alabama-Crimson-Tide-Texas-Longhorns-Ohio-State-Buckeyes-149293513/#149293513_20

What y'all think?

Hambone
07-21-2020, 07:15 AM
I think he has Florida too low and LSU and A&M too high.

FISHDAWG
07-21-2020, 07:19 AM
Steele usually is pretty good but there are just too many head scratchers in this years top 25 .... I think he misses the mark on the top half of this list - the bottom half is just expected every year but there are a few there that I don't really agree with either like aTm @ #5 ..... I'm also not buying Miami, UT, or Iowa at the rank shown .... this is like Covid - nobody knows ... with no spring training , they only go by last years record I think and last years recruiting

DawgNsuds
07-21-2020, 11:13 AM
I just don't buy into all of the love for A&M

BeardoMSU
07-21-2020, 11:15 AM
I just don't buy into all of the love for A&M

Shhhh....don't wake the Jimbo-bros**

Dawg-gone-dawgs
07-21-2020, 11:24 AM
I think he has Florida too low and LSU and A&M too high.

I was literally about to type the same thing..agreed

Turfdawg67
07-21-2020, 11:25 AM
Shhhh....don't wake the Jimbo-bros**

Too late, the biggest Jimbro started the thread. Probably why he did it... and to throw a little shade at MSU.

msstate7
07-21-2020, 11:25 AM
Shhhh....don't wake the Jimbo-bros**

This one never sleeps through a covid or jimbo argument

QuadrupleOption
07-21-2020, 11:46 AM
https://247sports.com/college/tennessee/LongFormArticle/College-football-preseason-Top-25-rankings-Phil-Steele-2020-Alabama-Crimson-Tide-Texas-Longhorns-Ohio-State-Buckeyes-149293513/#149293513_20

What y'all think?

Like most, I think A&M is too high. I'll believe it when I see it.
He also has Notre Dame as a top 10 team even though his analysis shows that they are relying on multiple freshmen. There's no way they are a top 10 team playing multiple freshmen.
Ohio State might run the table until they get to the playoffs. Clemson and/or Bama will beat them. Again.

Otherwise, it's the same song and dance. Take 10-15 schools with big fanbases, throw them in a hat, pick them randomly to seed your top 25 and get everyone hyped for the season. Who cares how accurate it is? No one will remember this time next year. Just wash, rinse, repeat.

Lord McBuckethead
07-21-2020, 12:30 PM
Kellen Mond is not a winner. In my opinion he doesn't have the goods.

TrapGame
07-21-2020, 12:59 PM
Kellen Mond is not a winner. In my opinion he doesn't have the goods.

100% agree. I've never been impressed by him. A lot of hype but that's it.

TrapGame
07-21-2020, 01:01 PM
I just don't buy into all of the love for A&M

Wait until Jimbo screws up this season too. They'll finish barely in the top 25. Jimbo's seat will get pretty warm.

Turfdawg67
07-21-2020, 02:45 PM
Wait until Jimbo screws up this season too. They'll finish barely in the top 25. Jimbo's seat will get pretty warm.

Robbie Faulk tweeted that TAM is the dark horse favorite for the 6th year in a row. Lolz.

Coach34
07-21-2020, 07:28 PM
I just don't buy into all of the love for A&M

A&M has 17 starters returning to a team that went 8-5. To expect them to win 10 in 2020 is almost common sense.

Mond- 258/419 61.6% 2897 yards 20/9 as a Jr
Dak Prescott- 244/396 61.6% 3449 yards 27/11 as a Jr

Just some QB comparison for context

TrapGame
07-22-2020, 09:14 AM
Robbie Faulk tweeted that TAM is the dark horse favorite for the 6th year in a row. Lolz.

Even Bo Bounds thinks we beat A&M. He was talking about it this morning. He doesn't think Mond could hold Costello's jock.

msstate7
07-22-2020, 09:42 AM
Even Bo Bounds thinks we beat A&M. He was talking about it this morning. He doesn't think Mond could hold Costello's jock.

I think Costello is better too. The supporting cast is a big advantage for aTm though

smootness
07-22-2020, 01:14 PM
A&M has 17 starters returning to a team that went 8-5. To expect them to win 10 in 2020 is almost common sense.

Mond- 258/419 61.6% 2897 yards 20/9 as a Jr
Dak Prescott- 244/396 61.6% 3449 yards 27/11 as a Jr

Just some QB comparison for context

So Dak was clearly better?

the_real_MSU_is_us
07-22-2020, 05:21 PM
A&M has 17 starters returning to a team that went 8-5. To expect them to win 10 in 2020 is almost common sense.

Mond- 258/419 61.6% 2897 yards 20/9 as a Jr
Dak Prescott- 244/396 61.6% 3449 yards 27/11 as a Jr

Just some QB comparison for context

1) Dak was CLEARLY an elite leader, mond is a blob

2) Dak's stats are pretty clearly better.

3) Dak got better each year. Mond seems to be basically the same as he was when he got there.

tenureplan
07-23-2020, 01:35 AM
Any reason you left out the rushing stats other than not fitting the agenda?

That said 17 starters is pretty strong

FISHDAWG
07-23-2020, 07:08 AM
Any reason you left out the rushing stats other than not fitting the agenda?

That said 17 starters is pretty strong

yeah ... Mond can play. Not sure why (other than bias) that he's getting hammered

BrunswickDawg
07-23-2020, 07:47 AM
For me, A&M has to actually lose less than 4 games for me to believe they can do it. Outside of 1 lightening in a bottle season with JFF, they haven't been able to.

msualohadog
07-23-2020, 08:29 AM
Steele is a one-trick pony. Formula rankings that include number of returning starters, strength of schedule, and home game W/Ls. I don't say this in a bad way... It is pretty much spot on most of the time. He will never pick any of the intangibles - like Mond being a rubber steak.

confucius say
07-23-2020, 08:32 AM
Anything less than 9-3 and jimbo should be embarrassed. I think they go 9-3.

I think fla wins the East.

TrapGame
07-23-2020, 09:53 AM
Anything less than 9-3 and jimbo should be embarrassed. I think they go 9-3.

I think fla wins the East.

Can Dan do it this time? Can Big Game Dan really win the big one?

Jimbo's a joke. Winston gave the illusion he's a top tier coach. I can see A&M screwing the pooch again and going 8-4. And that's mainly b/c of Mond.

R2Dawg
07-23-2020, 01:38 PM
Can Dan do it this time? Can Big Game Dan really win the big one?

Jimbo's a joke. Winston gave the illusion he's a top tier coach. I can see A&M screwing the pooch again and going 8-4. And that's mainly b/c of Mond.

Agree on Jimbo. I've not seen anything that makes me think he is an elite coach. But TAMU has gone all in with Jimbo and Bjork to cheat their way to the top. Those two combined with TAMU money is a bad combination for rest of SEC. But them being able to pull it off is yet to be seen.

TrapGame
07-23-2020, 03:50 PM
Agree on Jimbo. I've not seen anything that makes me think he is an elite coach. But TAMU has gone all in with Jimbo and Bjork to cheat their way to the top. Those two combined with TAMU money is a bad combination for rest of SEC. But them being able to pull it off is yet to be seen.

And Bdork cheated his ass off with Freeze and had zero championships to show for it. Jimbo is a mediocre coach. Jimbo and Bdork are going to make A&M sorry those two ever set foot on campus.