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99jc
07-17-2020, 06:31 PM
what is going on around the country with this casual attitude many are displaying. Have witnessed an alarming increase of younger people coming down with the virus now. It seems to have mutated to infect people under 45. At least this strain we are seeing here. My opinion is sports as we know it over for the next year. The big fear now is reinfection. We are hearing reports that is what is happening in Spain. i will be perfectly honest i don't trust any Government sources anymore, and can only confirm what i have seen since this started. Be safe....Hail State!

Liverpooldawg
07-17-2020, 06:57 PM
Thank you for what you do! Hang in there and stay safe.

Dawgology
07-17-2020, 07:21 PM
The good news is that New York and surrounding areas have had under 1000 new cases for about 8 days straight. We screwed up by putting the whole country on quarantine when the northeast and west coast saw their initial spike. It?s pretty obvious at this point the virus hadn?t made it to the southeast, Southwest, or middle America at that point. What we are seeing now is 80% of America went through quarantine with the 20% of America that needed to. That 20% successfully weathered the storm so all of America started lifting quarantine and the the virus arrived in middle America. So, now middle America is staring down the reality of a second quarantine after barely having survived the first one while the 20% moves on.

It was overreaction and poor planning.

Joebob
07-18-2020, 06:08 PM
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Joebob
07-18-2020, 06:10 PM
The good news is that New York and surrounding areas have had under 1000 new cases for about 8 days straight. We screwed up by putting the whole country on quarantine when the northeast and west coast saw their initial spike. It?s pretty obvious at this point the virus hadn?t made it to the southeast, Southwest, or middle America at that point. What we are seeing now is 80% of America went through quarantine with the 20% of America that needed to. That 20% successfully weathered the storm so all of America started lifting quarantine and the the virus arrived in middle America. So, now middle America is staring down the reality of a second quarantine after barely having survived the first one while the 20% moves on.

It was overreaction and poor planning.

Uh, no. When you take precautions ahead of time, bad things don't happen. Besides, Coronavirus was already spreading in Texas when New York shut down, so I don't know where you're getting that from

Liverpooldawg
07-18-2020, 06:21 PM
We had our first case in my county here in MS in mid March. It was here. We held it down by locking down. When we opened back up people decided that it was over and they could do whatever the hell they wanted to. No precautions, wide open. This was the predictable result, and it was predicted. The hospital numbers today were scary.

Cooterpoot
07-18-2020, 06:24 PM
It's simply the people who were sheltering arent. And they're younger. It's the damn summer and folks can't hole up forever.

Liverpooldawg
07-18-2020, 06:39 PM
It's simply the people who were sheltering arent. And they're younger. It's the damn summer and folks can't hole up forever.

Some are going to be, permanently.

confucius say
07-18-2020, 07:12 PM
It's simply the people who were sheltering arent. And they're younger. It's the damn summer and folks can't hole up forever.

Correct. That's driving the case count.
Not the death count though. 1132 of our 1346 deaths are over 60 years old. 84%. It is amazing to me that we can't protect our old population (and that our old population isn't taking proper precautions).

Dawgology
07-18-2020, 07:28 PM
Uh, no. When you take precautions ahead of time, bad things don't happen. Besides, Coronavirus was already spreading in Texas when New York shut down, so I don't know where you're getting that from

You are right. It was here en masse in March just like New York. We are just like New York. In fact, we should just shut the whole state down until June of next year. It’ll be fine. My bad.

Jack Lambert
07-18-2020, 09:52 PM
I was out there a few weeks ago and the Navajo Nation was like a ghost town Have you been over there?

Cowbell
07-18-2020, 10:37 PM
We had our first case in my county here in MS in mid March. It was here. We held it down by locking down. When we opened back up people decided that it was over and they could do whatever the hell they wanted to. No precautions, wide open. This was the predictable result, and it was predicted. The hospital numbers today were scary.

No county in rural MS actually went into lockdown. You didn't hold anything down. It just takes a lot longer to spread through rural populations like most of MS.

Todd4State
07-18-2020, 11:52 PM
Correct. That's driving the case count.
Not the death count though. 1132 of our 1346 deaths are over 60 years old. 84%. It is amazing to me that we can't protect our old population (and that our old population isn't taking proper precautions).

We're not immortal. Older people have the highest death rate anyway. The problem is inconsistent testing results.

ScoobaDawg
07-19-2020, 12:24 AM
You are right. It was here en masse in March just like New York. We are just like New York. In fact, we should just shut the whole state down until June of next year. It’ll be fine. My bad.

This is another example of your horrible posts.. don't like the message? attack the poster.. be sarcastic and smartass instead of stating facts and having a discussion.

As mentioned below, it took longer in southern states that were more rural... oh and less people travel to.

Cloak
07-19-2020, 03:15 AM
It's definitely hitting the younger crowd. I'm part of the 25 and younger crowd. My entire friend group plus me are showing the exact same symptoms. Two of us are positive. This is what happened to all of us
- 4-6 days severe back pain
- after back pain, cold symptoms (stuffed up nose, cough, feeling sick)
- 50% of us loss of taste and smell

starkvegasdawg
07-19-2020, 08:15 AM
My mom is going to the doctor tomorrow. She's been sick for about a week. Cold symptoms. Nausea. Fever between 100-101. But mainly no appetite and very weak. I know. Those symptoms could be a 100 different things.

The nightmare is going to be this winter if this is still going strong. You throw cold, flu, and stomach bug season in top of this and people are all going to be paranoid not knowing what everybody has.

KOdawg1
07-19-2020, 08:48 AM
The nightmare is going to be this winter if this is still going strong. You throw cold, flu, and stomach bug season in top of this and people are all going to be paranoid not knowing what everybody has.

Yep. I currently have cold-like symptoms and am sneezing like crazy. I'm not running fever or showing any other Covid symptoms, but in the back of my mind, I can't rule it out. When the flu season rolls back around, you're going to see some chaos

Dawgology
07-19-2020, 09:18 AM
This is another example of your horrible posts.. don't like the message? attack the poster.. be sarcastic and smartass instead of stating facts and having a discussion.

As mentioned below, it took longer in southern states that were more rural... oh and less people travel to.

An example of my horrible posts? What are you talking about? You just restated more or less what I said in my original post on this thread but I was focusing more on economic issues driving why cases are spiking in Mississippi right now. No one wants to hear that though, I guess.

Dawgology
07-19-2020, 09:24 AM
Yep. I currently have cold-like symptoms and am sneezing like crazy. I'm not running fever or showing any other Covid symptoms, but in the back of my mind, I can't rule it out. When the flu season rolls back around, you're going to see some chaos

This. It’s the scenario i painted in another thread. So many schools are pushing class room and sports BACK in hopes of a downward trend happening between now and then but the truth is flu + covid will create chaos in Mississippi. The 2017-2018 flu season was eye-opening. We had multiple MEMA meetings to address it because it taxed the Mississippi hospital system enormously. They were doing things then that we are talking about now (turning away elective surgeries, diverting patients out of state, etc) because they had no room. Honestly, the flu hammers the MS hospital system every year.

If schools really want football they should work out a way to finish their seasons before late October/early November.

BrunswickDawg
07-19-2020, 09:32 AM
This. It’s the scenario i painted in another thread. So many schools are pushing class room and sports BACK in hopes of a downward trend happening between now and then but the truth is flu + covid will create chaos in Mississippi. The 2017-2018 flu season was eye-opening. We had multiple MEMA meetings to address it because it taxed the Mississippi hospital system enormously. They were doing things then that we are talking about now (turning away elective surgeries, diverting patients out of state, etc) because they had no room. Honestly, the flu hammers the MS hospital system every year.

If schools really want football they should work out a way to finish their seasons before late October/early November.

Interesting - especially after having just read this article - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-surge-brings-suffering-impoverished-underresourced-mississippi-delta-n1234098

Dawgology
07-19-2020, 10:20 AM
Interesting - especially after having just read this article - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-surge-brings-suffering-impoverished-underresourced-mississippi-delta-n1234098

Great article that I wish more people would read. Now imagine that on top of an average or (God forbid) a bad flu season. On the other hand if you do a total shutdown again you basically kill the Mississippi economy and exacerbate the situation further. Even people would just wash their hands, wear a mask, and social distance believe it or not we could get it under control. It really works.