Looks Like We Got the Votes....

[ShotgunDawg]

As someone that cares deeply about the state of Mississippi & believe in it's people, Mississippi State, & it's future, today or tomorrow may end up being one of the most proud days in my life to say I'm a Mississippian.

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[ShotgunDawg]

If this happens & Kylin goes over 2,000 total yards this year, he may get an invite to NYC

You know the voting media will have a soft spot for him

[wild_dawg]

Hopefully this is the case, proud of our University for having Kylin's back and standing for what is right

[ShotgunDawg]

Hopefully this is the case, proud of our University for having Kylin's back and standing for what is right

Absolutely.

[StarkVegasSteve]

As someone that cares deeply about the state of Mississippi & believe in it's people, Mississippi State, & it's future, today or tomorrow may end up being one of the most proud days in my life to say I'm a Mississippian.

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Now let's get back to arguing about corona, whether we're playing football, and Gun starting way too many threads. This place was almost boring with all the agreement.

[ShotgunDawg]

Watch out SEC, this MF'er is about to put up half a hunard on you

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[KOdawg1]

PLEASE get this flag changed. I miss the boring summers where we don't have news for weeks. I'd take that over what we've had recently.

[Dawgface]

Great!

[ShotgunDawg]

I wonder what Howland is thinking here?

"This guy just talked my ear off for 2 hours"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbXgSUQXQAACRu3?format=jpg&name=large

[iPat09]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQBj8EVUkVU

Let's all watch what happens....

[Rex54]

Next stop: Statues and memorials. It's coming. It's never ending.

[Bdawg]

I wonder what Howland is thinking here?

"This guy just talked my ear off for 2 hours"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbXgSUQXQAACRu3?format=jpg&name=large

Where is this? They go to the capitol?

[msbulldog]

This makes a MSU Alum proud! Hail State!

[KOdawg1]

Next stop: Statues and memorials. It's coming. It's never ending.

The flag isn't where you should put your foot down on change

[TrapGame]

The flag isn't where you should put your foot down on change

Amen.

The flag is a problem easily solved. And it should have been long ago.

[Liverpooldawg]

It will be a LONG overdue great day when it happens.

[Rex54]

The flag isn't where you should put your foot down on change

That may well be but my point still stands. Statues, memorials, county names, city names... eventually churches. Just understand this is not finished, not by a long shot. At some point you'll have to say "no".

[Bothrops]

Where is this? They go to the capitol?

State Capitol

[TStationDawg]

State Capitol

I mean really, get to the important stuff- "I move we get to the modernization act..." what's more than modern than getting rid of the flag?????

[iPat09]

Another link to the press conference with the university athletic staffs...

https://www.wjtv.com/news/athletic-directors-coaches-to-advocate-for-new-mississippi-state-flag/

[RiverCityDawg]

That may well be but my point still stands. Statues, memorials, county names, city names... eventually churches. Just understand this is not finished, not by a long shot. At some point you'll have to say "no".

Yeah might have to say "no" to some things. But it can be done on a case by case basis. Getting rid of a state flag in 2020 that has a symbol synonymous with hate doesn't mean you are agreeing to give everything over to the big bad left. It means you are showing discernment and are being decent on this specific subject. This "we can't give in or they'll take everything" argument is a logical fallacy.

[msbulldog]

Yeah might have to say "no" to some things. But it can be done on a case by case basis. Getting rid of a state flag in 2020 that has a symbol synonymous with hate doesn't mean you are agreeing to give everything over to the big bad left. It means you are showing discernment and are being decent on this specific subject. This "we can't give in or they'll take everything" argument is a logical fallacy.

Correct, the flag is obviously a problem that can be solved. Other issues should be resolved singularly.

[TrapGame]

Yeah might have to say "no" to some things. But it can be done on a case by case basis. Getting rid of a state flag in 2020 that has a symbol synonymous with hate doesn't mean you are agreeing to give everything over to the big bad left. It means you are showing discernment and are being decent on this specific subject. This "we can't give in or they'll take everything" argument is a logical fallacy.

Right.

There are a lot of things I disagree with on the Left but changing the state flag is not one of them. Everyone should be in agreement on this one.

[Rex54]

Everyone should be in agreement on this one.

So have a referendum...

[msbulldog]

So have a referendum...

You can't fix stupid!

[SmokeyDawg]

So have a referendum...

Hold your L and move on

[RiverCityDawg]

So have a referendum...

Lay aside the question of human decency for a second. Do you think it would be good, bad or neutral for the State to have a referendum and the vote come back as "keep it"? It would unquestionably be bad and I don't see how that can be intelligently argued against.

On the flip side, there is literally no bad that comes from changing it. Only the possibility of good.

The people elected to make decisions in the best interest of the State have to make this decision like they are supposed to do on so many other issues.

It's a no-brainer.

[TrapGame]

So have a referendum...

You need a Xanax.

[Dolphus Raymond]

Rex54 needs a frontal lobotomy.

[confucius say]

Back to the OP, I think we for sure have the house votes. But are we sure about the senate?

[Dawg2003]

So have a referendum...

We have a representative democracy in this country. We elect leaders to make decisions.

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah might have to say "no" to some things. But it can be done on a case by case basis. Getting rid of a state flag in 2020 that has a symbol synonymous with hate doesn't mean you are agreeing to give everything over to the big bad left. It means you are showing discernment and are being decent on this specific subject. This "we can't give in or they'll take everything" argument is a logical fallacy.

This. There has to be some middle ground found or we're screwed. There has to be some compromise from both sides on all issues. When people start drawing lines in the sand and no compromise exists bad s*** starts to happen.

[MetEdDawg]

I don't care what anyone says. This doesn't happen this fast unless Kylin makes his stand. Period.

So he might be selfish or whatever everyone else who disagrees with him calls him, but a black college running back from Mississippi just laid the path to get the state flag removed.

Sorry to those of you who are pissed. But we just witnessed what action can get you.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Should MS change the flag? Yes
Should statues of founding fathers be destroyed? No
Should confederate monuments be moved to museums? Yes
Should lady antebellum change their name? No

Case by case and common sense, folks

[KOdawg1]

I don't care what anyone says. This doesn't happen this fast unless Kylin makes his stand. Period.

So he might be selfish or whatever everyone else who disagrees with him calls him, but a black college running back from Mississippi just laid the path to get the state flag removed.

Sorry to those of you who are pissed. But we just witnessed what action can get you.
I want to publicly say I was wrong about Kylin. I have always wanted the flag changed, but I wasn't sure what he was doing would make that much of a difference. The ball was already rolling, but he kicked it down the hill, and it's because of him that we're at this point this quickly. So I want to man up and say I'm sorry and I was wrong Kylin. You showed courage, and I couldn't be prouder that you're a Bulldog.

[Commercecomet24]

Should MS change the flag? Yes
Should statues of founding fathers be destroyed? No
Should confederate monuments be moved to museums? Yes
Should lady antebellum change their name? No

Case by case and common sense, folks

Thank you! Well said. Case by case.

[Political Hack]

Congrats to the whole state! Long overdue, but better late than never.

[Lord McBuckethead]

That may well be but my point still stands. Statues, memorials, county names, city names... eventually churches. Just understand this is not finished, not by a long shot. At some point you'll have to say "no".

When it stops being racist, it will stop. Sorry, but Forrest County (I assume is named for NB Forrest) needs a name change. In no way, should anyone in Mississippi have to live in a county named for that dude.

So you are right. It will not stop with the flag. We have plenty of history that needs celebrating that has nothing to do with racism, the confederacy, or the bigotry of the 1860s-1969.

[Commercecomet24]

I love Mississippi and I'm proud to be a son of Mississippi and I love it so much that I want it to move forward and progress and this change will at least be a start.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Should MS change the flag? Yes
Should statues of founding fathers be destroyed? No
Should confederate monuments be moved to museums? Yes
Should lady antebellum change their name? No

Case by case and common sense, folks

Bingo. Case by Case. Should Forrest County change its name? Yes.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I love Mississippi and I'm proud to be a son of Mississippi and I love it so much that I want it to move forward and progress and this change will at least be a start.

Boom. 100%. I am so ready to be rid of this crap. I hope Mississippi legislature takes this as an huge opportunity to be proactive in removing stuff like the flag, school names, county names, etc. They could add entire wings to the civil right museum in Jackson with all this stuff.

[Lord McBuckethead]

So have a referendum...

No, we already voted for our representatives. Let them do their jobs.

[Rex54]

This. There has to be some middle ground found or we're screwed.
You say this as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Francis Scott Key, John C Calhoun, and Christopher Columbus all come down. We're already past the point of "case by case" or "middle ground". I'm sorry some you can't see the forest for the trees but they are already openly talking and promoting this type of cultural revolution as Lord McBucketdork desires.

[ScoobaDawg]

When it stops being racist, it will stop. Sorry, but Forrest County (I assume is named for NB Forrest) needs a name change. In no way, should anyone in Mississippi have to live in a county named for that dude.

So you are right. It will not stop with the flag. We have plenty of history that needs celebrating that has nothing to do with racism, the confederacy, or the bigotry of the 1860s-1969.

It was mentioned in 2015 it needed to change but rep-Billy Hudson said he wouldn't change it.
https://www.wdam.com/story/29392616/forrest-county-namesake-stirs-debate-at-home-in-other-states/

[BrunswickDawg]

This. There has to be some middle ground found or we're screwed. There has to be some compromise from both sides on all issues. When people start drawing lines in the sand and no compromise exists bad s*** starts to happen.

I really don't think it is as hard as most people think. I spent 3 years as a director of Civil War Museum, and another 15 running Civil War and antebellum related historic sites and African-American related sites, and done time as a Confederate re-enactor. I have been having these conversations with people since the mid-1990s. When you have detailed conversations, most people understand the differences in battlefield memorials and Jim Crow monuments to power.

And this concept of "losing or history" is just false. There are more museums commemorating the Civil War - or hell, just about anything - then at any point in our history. There are more documentaries, books, scholarly articles, interpretive trails, preserved sites, and organizations dedicated to preserving history (and specifically CW history) than at any point. And we are doing these things broadly - from all perspectives - providing accounts from common soldiers, to leaders, to enslaved peoples, to women on the home front, to freedmen. Guys like you and I are old enough to remember going to a battle field in the 1970s, seeing the NPS made diorama of the troops on the field, seeing some poorly produced video or slide show all narrated by the same NPS employee, and seeing a bunch of guns on the wall. Go to that same battlefield today, and it's a whole other learning experience. At every NPS Civil War site, you learn the entire context of the war, the politics leading up to it, the impact on all communities, and what we can learn from it. Go out on the field now and you have narrated walking tours you can download, podcasts, full color maps in the field, and so many other ways to learn you didn't have 40 years ago. It's astounding. And it grows by the year.

But, none of this absolves us from trying to get better, from striving to understand perspectives, or from trying be decent enough human beings to understand that we have a 400 year legacy issue that we have to rectify. It is our original sin as a country, and we have only really been trying to fully understand the legacy and ramifications of it for a few years. To solve it, we have to have conversations. We have to commit to working past it. And we have to be willing to admit our wrongs. And we have to admit that despite all the advancements we have made, that we still have work to do.

Sorry - bit a soapbox there. CC most of that wasn't directed at your comments. I just hit reply and started writing.

[ShotgunDawg]

Preview of future Egg Bowls today

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[ShotgunDawg]

BTW, where did Wolken's ass go during all this?

[KOdawg1]

BTW, where did Wolken's ass go during all this?

Or the Mark Jones dude from ESPN that called out our AD and coaches

[Commercecomet24]

I really don't think it is as hard as most people think. I spent 3 years as a director of Civil War Museum, and another 15 running Civil War and antebellum related historic sites and African-American related sites, and done time as a Confederate re-enactor. I have been having these conversations with people since the mid-1990s. When you have detailed conversations, most people understand the differences in battlefield memorials and Jim Crow monuments to power.

And this concept of "losing or history" is just false. There are more museums commemorating the Civil War - or hell, just about anything - then at any point in our history. There are more documentaries, books, scholarly articles, interpretive trails, preserved sites, and organizations dedicated to preserving history (and specifically CW history) than at any point. And we are doing these things broadly - from all perspectives - providing accounts from common soldiers, to leaders, to enslaved peoples, to women on the home front, to freedmen. Guys like you and I are old enough to remember going to a battle field in the 1970s, seeing the NPS made diorama of the troops on the field, seeing some poorly produced video or slide show all narrated by the same NPS employee, and seeing a bunch of guns on the wall. Go to that same battlefield today, and it's a whole other learning experience. At every NPS Civil War site, you learn the entire context of the war, the politics leading up to it, the impact on all communities, and what we can learn from it. Go out on the field now and you have narrated walking tours you can download, podcasts, full color maps in the field, and so many other ways to learn you didn't have 40 years ago. It's astounding. And it grows by the year.

But, none of this absolves us from trying to get better, from striving to understand perspectives, or from trying be decent enough human beings to understand that we have a 400 year legacy issue that we have to rectify. It is our original sin as a country, and we have only really been trying to fully understand the legacy and ramifications of it for a few years. To solve it, we have to have conversations. We have to commit to working past it. And we have to be willing to admit our wrongs. And we have to admit that despite all the advancements we have made, that we still have work to do.

Sorry - bit a soapbox there. CC most of that wasn't directed at your comments. I just hit reply and started writing.

It's all good, I always respect your opinion. Good stuff man!

[confucius say]

Again, do we have the votes in the senate? If we don't, after all this, it's going to suck. If your senator is one of the holdouts and you want the flag changed, please call or email them.

[DownwardDawg]

Should MS change the flag? Yes
Should statues of founding fathers be destroyed? No
Should confederate monuments be moved to museums? Yes
Should lady antebellum change their name? No

Case by case and common sense, folks

That makes way too much sense dude!

[msbulldog]

I want to publicly say I was wrong about Kylin. I have always wanted the flag changed, but I wasn't sure what he was doing would make that much of a difference. The ball was already rolling, but he kicked it down the hill, and it's because of him that we're at this point this quickly. So I want to man up and say I'm sorry and I was wrong Kylin. You showed courage, and I couldn't be prouder that you're a Bulldog.

Well said! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to KOdawg1 again.

[ShotgunDawg]

Looks like we're a few votes short still.

My guess is that we have a few last statesmen using their vote as leverage for some bacon.

This is politics I guess. If you can land you district a few new roads due to withholding your vote till the end, then I guess you do that.

[BorneDawg]

I'm ok with changing the flag as long as it don't have a stupid magnolia on it!
But where does it stop?

So your fine in changing anything\where named Columbus, Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton, ECT..... Cause that's what is wanteded by the current movement..... And on the case by case thing if we let others make the decisions then we have lost our say.... I know we get to vote but they can change a lot of stuff between elections if we allow them to.

What if the next demand is to remove all forms of Christianity on campus and make everyone embrace lgbtq+ say we have to remove the Chapel of Memories....

again we have been losing small inch by inch battles for years now it's a full on field rush by the left to take this country over and become socialist

In the end we all have our opinions and can voice them somewhat for now but were losing more of that everyday

[BorneDawg]

That makes way too much sense dude!

So who says you get a say in those other case by case examples? Slot can be taken between elections

[Rex54]

What if the next demand is to remove all forms of Christianity on campus and make everyone again we have been losing small inch by inch battles for years now it's a full on field rush by the left to take this country over and become socialist

Become Marxist. Every nation is "socialist".

[FISHDAWG]

Bingo. Case by Case. Should Forrest County change its name? Yes.

Jones county is just above you and an easy drive

[KentuckyDawg13]

Looks like we're a few votes short still.

My guess is that we have a few last statesmen using their vote as leverage for some bacon.

This is politics I guess. If you can land you district a few new roads due to withholding your vote till the end, then I guess you do that.

Only state worse than Mississippi politics is Louisiana. Kentucky a close 3rd btw.

[DanDority]

This will make us all richer and more enlightened, NO DOUBT!

[Dawg2003]

I'm ok with changing the flag as long as it don't have a stupid magnolia on it!
But where does it stop?

So your fine in changing anything\where named Columbus, Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton, ECT..... Cause that's what is wanteded by the current movement..... And on the case by case thing if we let others make the decisions then we have lost our say.... I know we get to vote but they can change a lot of stuff between elections if we allow them to.

What if the next demand is to remove all forms of Christianity on campus and make everyone embrace lgbtq+ say we have to remove the Chapel of Memories....

again we have been losing small inch by inch battles for years now it's a full on field rush by the left to take this country over and become socialist

In the end we all have our opinions and can voice them somewhat for now but were losing more of that everyday

Removing a symbol of chattel slavery is definitely a slippery slope to abolishing Christianity***

[KOdawg1]

This will make us all richer and more enlightened, NO DOUBT!

Lol I love arguments like these. Not one single person thinks that. If you can't see how the flag represents a time of oppression for 40% of our population, then I just can't help you. Go "Enlighten" yourself

[msstatelp1]

So have a referendum...

No. It's the Legislature's job to choose the state flag. They must be made to do their job. You don't get to directly vote on other legislature business so you don't get to vote on this.

[msstatelp1]

Looks like we're a few votes short still.

My guess is that we have a few last statesmen using their vote as leverage for some bacon.

This is politics I guess. If you can land you district a few new roads due to withholding your vote till the end, then I guess you do that.

Time to start naming names. Who is for, who is against.

[BorneDawg]

Removing a symbol of chattel slavery is definitely a slippery slope to abolishing Christianity***

Lol didn't say anything about abolishing something that can't be.... Just saying what's the next stone? Calling for removing\renaming everything in history you don't like is the death of this country. Ask Venezuela how erasing history and censoring the people worked out for them

[ShotgunDawg]

Time to start naming names. Who is for, who is against.

Appears this cat is the ring leader

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[PKADogs55]

Watch out SEC, this MF'er is about to put up half a hunard on you

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I wonder how many times he Coughed today lol?

[BeardoMSU]

Appears this cat is the ring leader

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I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

[Dawgology]

Appears this cat is the ring leader

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What a ****ing tool that guy is. He represents most of what is wrong with our state.

[fishwater99]

Appears this cat is the ring leader

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Nice Rebel flag behind him too.

[TrapGame]

Appears this cat is the ring leader

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He's very wrong on this issue. At the very least there should be a move to return to the old flag pre-Civil War. The 1894 flag is a white power high five and middle finger to the Yankees. It's got to go.

[Dawg2003]

Lol didn't say anything about abolishing something that can't be.... Just saying what's the next stone? Calling for removing\renaming everything in history you don't like is the death of this country. Ask Venezuela how erasing history and censoring the people worked out for them

Who is being censored, and how is history being erased?

[Jack Lambert]

I hope if they vote to change it they let us vote for the new one and make it constitutionally the flag. Also I think they should give the current flag it's own license plate to be bought by those who don't want to change the flag.

[Rex54]

Missouri state flag below. We don't need to copy it.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Flag_of_Missouri.svg

[Commercecomet24]

Reckon how unm admin is going to reconcile showing up to show support for flag removal but stay with the name ole miss and rebels? They have quite a conundrum on their hands

[Todd4State]

Reckon how unm admin is going to reconcile showing up to show support for flag removal but stay with the name ole miss and rebels? They have quite a conundrum on their hands

They've had a conundrum for awhile with that.

[Liverpooldawg]

Missouri state flag below. We don't need to copy it.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Flag_of_Missouri.svg

Who cares WHAT the new one looks like. As long as it isn't some homage to people who tried to break up the country so they could continue to OWN fellow human beings it will be better than what we have now. How is this offensive ignorant idiot not been banned already?

[Commercecomet24]

They've had a conundrum for awhile with that.

Yeah they're idiots and I want to see them squirm because surely some astute reporter is going to ask them those questions

[Dolphus Raymond]

I do not care what the next flag looks like as long as the confederate flag is not on it.

[Rex54]

I do not care what the next flag looks like as long as the confederate flag is not on it.
That's because conservatives don't care about anything but the GDP these days.

[KOdawg1]

That's because conservatives don't care about anything but the GDP these days.

Or, and hear me out here, people don't want to be racist.

[Rex54]

Or, and hear me out here, people don't want to be racist.
That's different than "not caring" what a different flag looks like. Symbols, culture, community- these things matter. Atomized individuals chasing their next dollar without a care in the world to learn their neighbors names "don't care at all" about a flag because the idea of group representation is meaningless to them. They're like an individual, man, and that's all. Libertarian poison. But that's why every town is a cookie cutter replication of the same strip malls, the same chains, just meaningless consumerism.

[Dawgology]

Appears this cat is the ring leader

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Incidentally, this is the same dumbass that voted AGAINST the 100 million dollar federal grant to promote broadband internet to underserved areas of the state via electric power coops yesterday. He was 1 of only Senators 3 that voted against it in a bipartisan bill. The guy is a moron.

[BorneDawg]

3211

[MaroonFlounder]

The 2/3 majority needed will fall 1 or 2 votes shy...if Chris McDaniel has his way. The guy is a turd. And he has those last holdouts in his pocket.

[DownwardDawg]

Incidentally, this is the same dumbass that voted AGAINST the 100 million dollar federal grant to promote broadband internet to underserved areas of the state via electric power coops yesterday. He was 1 of only Senators 3 that voted against it in a bipartisan bill. The guy is a moron.

My wife and I would love to talk to him face to face for that rural internet vote. If you only knew what I’ve been through trying to get decent internet....

[Dawgology]

My wife and I would love to talk to him face to face for that rural internet vote. If you only knew what I’ve been through trying to get decent internet....

I and thousand of others in this state feel your pain. McDaniels is the exact type of person that we need out is Mississippi politics.

[msstatelp1]

The 2/3 majority needed will fall 1 or 2 votes shy...if Chris McDaniel has his way. The guy is a turd. And he has those last holdouts in his pocket.

The Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party has come out in support of change. I imagine if tells them to get in line or get primaried, they'll vote for change.

[WinningIsRelentless]

Incidentally, this is the same dumbass that voted AGAINST the 100 million dollar federal grant to promote broadband internet to underserved areas of the state via electric power coops yesterday. He was 1 of only Senators 3 that voted against it in a bipartisan bill. The guy is a moron.

He?s bluffing. He is just trying to make himself relevant again while positioning himself to run against Tate in 4 years. That is if Tate votes with the house and senate to change the flag.

[DLGDawg]

I'm with you on that. It's like people who live in the rural areas don't matter.


My wife and I would love to talk to him face to face for that rural internet vote. If you only knew what I?ve been through trying to get decent internet....

[Cowbell]

If the legislature drops the ball on this, it will make me glad I don't live there anymore

[Rex54]

If the legislature drops the ball on this, it will make me glad I don't live there anymore
As opposed to living where people are rioting, looting, and ripping down statues en masse full on cultural revolution style?

[Santiago]

As opposed to living where people are rioting, looting, and ripping down statues en masse full on cultural revolution style?

Plenty of states in between this spectrum

[Rex54]

Plenty of states in between this spectrum
Okay, plenty of states aren't... "not every state is pushing a Maoist revolution" isn't the point. The point is there is a Maoist style cultural revolution being pushed in America.

[RiverCityDawg]

Okay, plenty of states aren't... "not every state is pushing a Maoist revolution" isn't the point. The point is there is a Maoist style cultural revolution being pushed in America.

No, the point is THAT has nothing to do with THIS specific issue. THIS specific issue is about logic, common sense and human decency.

There is no logical argument for keeping the flag at this point just "gosh, my granddaddy fought under the flag and by golly this worlds going to hell in a hand basket so if they take our flag they'll come after our Bibles and our children next!" Just a string of logical fallacies at the cost of loving your neighbor and the economic well being of the state.

[chef dixon]

Okay, plenty of states aren't... "not every state is pushing a Maoist revolution" isn't the point. The point is there is a Maoist style cultural revolution being pushed in America.

Don't be a snowflake bro

[Rex54]

Don't be a snowflake bro

Destruction of western civilization, NBD.

[Turfdawg67]

As opposed to living where people are rioting, looting, and ripping down statues en masse full on cultural revolution style?

When you get banned again, will it be your 2nd or 3rd time? I'd actually prefer your JoMo rhetoric than all this drivel.

[chef dixon]

Destruction of western civilization, NBD.

How is it really affecting your day to day life? Probably very little. Turn off the TV. Is it that upsetting to see an Olive Garden down the road?

[DownwardDawg]

I'm with you on that. It's like people who live in the rural areas don't matter.

Hey!!!! Maybe we should start an organization and make some t shirts!!!

[TrapGame]

Destruction of western civilization, NBD.

You sound like you're in a basement with an AR15 and 500 cans of Vienna Sausage.

[Gutter Cobreh]

When you get banned again, will it be your 2nd or 3rd time? I'd actually prefer your JoMo rhetoric than all this drivel.

He'll just start posting with his Dantheman account, as it would be off suspension by then.... Rinse and repeat

[Rex54]

How is it really affecting your day to day life?

Some people are able to see beyond their own self to broader notions such as "society"

"That statue of Washington getting torn down didn't physically land on your head so why do you care"

[RiverCityDawg]

Some people are able to see beyond their own self to broader notions such as "society"


This is quite ironic coming from you.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I will give Rex one thing, he definitely gives the board something to talk about.

[Turfdawg67]

He'll just start posting with his Dantheman account, as it would be off suspension by then.... Rinse and repeat

You think? My impression is their views are polar opposite. I was thinking more like Coach007.

[YazooDawg23]

Rex 100% breaks out the Jergens to Tucker Carlson every night.

[DanDority]

Lol I love arguments like these. Not one single person thinks that. If you can't see how the flag represents a time of oppression for 40% of our population, then I just can't help you. Go "Enlighten" yourself

I try everyday to become more Enlightened; However, I must not be as INTELLIGENT as some. I'm not an engineer like some on here, I'm only a Veterinarian, sorry.

[YazooDawg23]

I try everyday to become more Enlightened; However, I must not be as INTELLIGENT as some. I'm not an engineer like some on here, I'm only a Veterinarian, sorry.

I?m afraid some of your patients are more enlightened than you are.

[Jack Lambert]

The 2/3 majority needed will fall 1 or 2 votes shy...if Chris McDaniel has his way. The guy is a turd. And he has those last holdouts in his pocket.

That's why he is not a US senator. I do agree with him on a lot of things but a lot of things I do not. I suspect if he was a US Senator his view might be a little different or he would keep silent.

[BeardoMSU]

radiowyatt
@RadioWyatt
Word in Jackson this morning: some SEC schools are deciding against sending athletic teams to compete in Mississippi unless there is a removal of the current state flag.
10:33 AM ? Jun 26, 2020?

https://twitter.com/RadioWyatt/status/1276523973224869891

[iPat09]

radiowyatt
@RadioWyatt
Word in Jackson this morning: some SEC schools are deciding against sending athletic teams to compete in Mississippi unless there is a removal of the current state flag.
10:33 AM ? Jun 26, 2020?

https://twitter.com/RadioWyatt/status/1276523973224869891

Yep, just saw that myself. Told some friends that would be next after the SEC and NCAA made their statements. If this flag doesn't change, even after this massive push to do so, we might actually see an even bigger brain drain than we have been. I could easily see people throwing up their arms and saying f*ck it, things will never change, let's just get out.

[Extendedcab]

Some people are able to see beyond their own self to broader notions such as "society"

"That statue of Washington getting torn down didn't physically land on your head so why do you care"

Why should we care? Ok lets think about this. At first, the WOKE movement was about racism and the rights and treatment of black people in the US. They wanted to level the playing field where black people are treated the same as white or more fortunate people than themselves. This is understood and even applauded by most reasonable humans.

But what we are seeing now is a total rewrite of US history - destroying anything and everything that may offend them. In their misplaced zeal, they chose to spare a notorious Seattle statue glorifying murderer Vladimir Lenin. According to national news, "The statue was originally placed on display in the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic by the Communist Party in the 1980s before being moved to Seattle. So it is, quite literally, Soviet propaganda. So, let’s get this straight: According to the far-left mobs in Seattle and Portland, honoring the man most responsible for helping to create what has become one of the freest nations in the history of the world — George Washington — is bad, but Communist propaganda celebrating one of the 20th century’s most prolific killers is tolerable, or even good?"

Does this sound like a WOKE movement? NO, it is a communist movement as they have gone as far as the creation and occupation of independent zones of the US sovereign soil know as CHOP zones. The people in the CHOP zones have no way of supporting themselves so they make demands on the State/US government to protect, house, feed, clothe and financially support them.

This is nothing but a communist takeover of the US and our own local/state/US government seems complacent to stop this nonsense.

Why should we care? Really!

[DownwardDawg]

radiowyatt
@RadioWyatt
Word in Jackson this morning: some SEC schools are deciding against sending athletic teams to compete in Mississippi unless there is a removal of the current state flag.
10:33 AM ? Jun 26, 2020?

https://twitter.com/RadioWyatt/status/1276523973224869891

Wait a second!!! So that team would be forced to forfeit. We might finally beat Bama!!! ***

[Dolphus Raymond]

THE BOLSHEVIKS ARE COMING!! THE BOLSHEVIKS ARE COMING!! and if that were not enough, the Mensheviks are hot on their heels.

[BeardoMSU]

Yep, just saw that myself. Told some friends that would be next after the SEC and NCAA made their statements. If this flag doesn't change, even after this massive push to do so, we might actually see an even bigger brain drain than we have been. I could easily see people throwing up their arms and saying f*ck it, things will never change, let's just get out.

The Legislature better get their shit together, because this is the type of development that leads to us and OM getting booted out of the SEC.

[FISHDAWG]

He'll just start posting with his Dantheman account, as it would be off suspension by then.... Rinse and repeat

so that's why I haven't seen his post ... I thought it was because I found a block setting

[Dolphus Raymond]

I suspect Beardo is correct. If, after this big push, the flag is not changed, the SEC will have about seen all they need to see. Perhaps Conf. USA will take us in.

[Extendedcab]

THE BOLSHEVIKS ARE COMING!! THE BOLSHEVIKS ARE COMING!! and if that were not enough, the Mensheviks are hot on their heels.

I am not talking about a physical Russian army invasion of the US, we will be destroyed from within which was communisms goal for many decades. It is being accomplished by indoctrinating our college age students in socialism and communism. The Marxist takeover is calculated and incremental. This is often referred to as the ‘long march through the institutions'.

In 1992 the Communist Party USA gathered at the University of California, Berkeley where 1 attendee was amazed to see a room filled with 50-, 60- and 70-year-old men and women, professionally dressed with their briefcases. This individual took notes and is summarized below.

"The plan they unfolded had nothing to do with guns, bombs or violence. They acknowledged their disappointment with what had happened in the Soviet Union but felt they could still "take America down." This time, instead of using force from the outside, they would use public policy from the inside.

They had a three part agenda. They would use their manpower, influence and funds to back anything that would destroy our families, businesses and culture.

Firstly, to destroy the family, they would promote co-habitation instead of marriage. They would also try to get children away from their mothers into government programs at the earliest age possible. They felt the best way to do this was to promote the feminist movement, which had been very effective at making women discontent with marriage and motherhood.

Secondly, to destroy businesses, they aimed to wipe out the profit potential that motivated people to start them. If people couldn't make good money off their ideas and hard work, they would eventually be content working for someone else. They were sure the environmental movement (modest at the time) was the only vehicle capable of creating enough regulation and expense to discourage business growth.

Finally, to destroy our culture, they needed us to abandon our heritage of religion and morality. They believed the homosexual movement, if accepted, would begin to effectively extinguish these values."

Wow, this describes America today 28 years later! We have no moral values (anything is acceptable as long as it feels good), no heritage (being destroyed by so called WOKE) and the destruction of small independent businesses.

[Dolphus Raymond]

And don?t forget ?sports on Sunday?. According to a preacher I heard when I was a kid, this too was a goal of The Reds.
I can?t believe what I just read.

[Rex54]

And don?t forget ?sports on Sunday?. According to a preacher I heard when I was a kid, this too was a goal of The Reds.
I can?t believe what I just read.
Minneapolis city council just unanimously voted to dismantle the police department. But to those with their heads buried in the sand and would rather smugly sip their soy latte that's just tinfoil hat

[Turfdawg67]

Minneapolis city council just unanimously voted to dismantle the police department. But to those with their heads buried in the sand and would rather smugly sip their soy latte that's just tinfoil hat

Call Rush and tell him to calm down. There's a long way to go before that would happen. It's just posturing to bring about reform. Now, these government created dog-men, that's a different story!

[hp22]

Not changing the flag will destroy our university (and OM). The direct impact would be huge. The indirect impact would be massive.

I wish existing and prospective businesses would be next to start apply pressure to the state.

Why our leadership cannot understand this amazes me.

[NCDawg]

I am not talking about a physical Russian army invasion of the US, we will be destroyed from within which was communisms goal for many decades. It is being accomplished by indoctrinating our college age students in socialism and communism. The Marxist takeover is calculated and incremental. This is often referred to as the ?long march through the institutions'.

In 1992 the Communist Party USA gathered at the University of California, Berkeley where 1 attendee was amazed to see a room filled with 50-, 60- and 70-year-old men and women, professionally dressed with their briefcases. This individual took notes and is summarized below.

"The plan they unfolded had nothing to do with guns, bombs or violence. They acknowledged their disappointment with what had happened in the Soviet Union but felt they could still "take America down." This time, instead of using force from the outside, they would use public policy from the inside.

They had a three part agenda. They would use their manpower, influence and funds to back anything that would destroy our families, businesses and culture.

Firstly, to destroy the family, they would promote co-habitation instead of marriage. They would also try to get children away from their mothers into government programs at the earliest age possible. They felt the best way to do this was to promote the feminist movement, which had been very effective at making women discontent with marriage and motherhood.

Secondly, to destroy businesses, they aimed to wipe out the profit potential that motivated people to start them. If people couldn't make good money off their ideas and hard work, they would eventually be content working for someone else. They were sure the environmental movement (modest at the time) was the only vehicle capable of creating enough regulation and expense to discourage business growth.

Finally, to destroy our culture, they needed us to abandon our heritage of religion and morality. They believed the homosexual movement, if accepted, would begin to effectively extinguish these values."

Wow, this describes America today 28 years later! We have no moral values (anything is acceptable as long as it feels good), no heritage (being destroyed by so called WOKE) and the destruction of small independent businesses.

I have no doubt that the Russians are gleeful to see the rioting, protests, and racial division we have in America at the present time. I don't doubt they would love to see America destroyed from within. I put nothing past them. We should have probably followed Gen. Patton's advice and fought the Soviet Union after we beat Germany in WW2.

[Rex54]

I have no doubt that the Russians are gleeful.

/facepalm

[msbulldog]

radiowyatt
@RadioWyatt
Word in Jackson this morning: some SEC schools are deciding against sending athletic teams to compete in Mississippi unless there is a removal of the current state flag.
10:33 AM ? Jun 26, 2020?

https://twitter.com/RadioWyatt/status/1276523973224869891

Well do we have a contract with a financial penalty like we do with OOC teams? That would be a financial wind fall. Or does that open them to litigation for failing to live up to a verbal contract? Or does the SEC and Sankey tell them that they have to play because the conference caused this problem to begin with. And if not do we have cause against the conference?

[chef dixon]

Firstly, to destroy the family, they would promote co-habitation instead of marriage. They would also try to get children away from their mothers into government programs at the earliest age possible. They felt the best way to do this was to promote the feminist movement, which had been very effective at making women discontent with marriage and motherhood.



Wait, so are you saying the reason most women aren't content just getting in a marriage with guys like you is because of a Soviet inside job? That seems reasonable.

[Extendedcab]

Wait, so are you saying the reason most women aren't content just getting in a marriage with guys like you is because of a Soviet inside job? That seems reasonable.

To show how ignorant you are, I have been married 37 years to the same woman!

If you cared to comprehend the text I posted you will see that those notes were from an eye witness account of the communist USA meeting.

[Rex54]

Wait, so are you saying the reason most women aren't content just getting in a marriage with guys like you is because of a Soviet inside job? That seems reasonable.

Most women would be far happier as housewives than working a 9-5.

[Rex54]

Oregon and Oregon State to retire the "Civil War" name.

Absolute madness in our country.

[YazooDawg23]

Most women would be far happier as housewives than working a 9-5.

Just a hunch but I bet you haven?t made a woman happy in awhile.

[Mobile Bay]

I have no doubt that the Russians are gleeful to see the rioting, protests, and racial division we have in America at the present time. I don't doubt they would love to see America destroyed from within. I put nothing past them. We should have probably followed Gen. Patton's advice and fought the Soviet Union after we beat Germany in WW2.

The Soviets would have kicked the everloving shit out of us at the end of WWII. They had more soldiers in Germany at the end than the United States had world wide.

[BeardoMSU]

Just a hunch but I bet you haven?t made a woman happy in awhile.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/OijnKYe4emiY/source.gif

[msbulldog]

The Soviets would have kicked the everloving shit out of us at the end of WWII. They had more soldiers in Germany at the end than the United States had world wide.

Yeah but the only armaments and supplies the Soviets had were coming from us. If Eisenhower had reinforced and supported Patton, he would have run the Soviets back to Moscow.

[NCDawg]

Yeah but the only armaments and supplies the Soviets had were coming from us. If Eisenhower had reinforced and supported Patton, he would have run the Soviets back to Moscow.

Agree. If we hadn't supported the Soviet Union with armaments and supplies, Germany would have kicked the everloving shit out of the Soviet Union.

[Mobile Bay]

Yeah but the only armaments and supplies the Soviets had were coming from us. If Eisenhower had reinforced and supported Patton, he would have run the Soviets back to Moscow.

I don't know where you are getting that from, but it simply isn't true. Yes some supplies came into the USSR through Murmansk and Archangel. But that was never a whole lot compared to Soviet industrial output. Early in the war the Soviets moved many of their factories east of the Ural mountains and by the end of they war they had been producing steadily. For example the Soviets manufactured roughly 80,000 T-34 tanks during the war. Only 1400 ships or so made the arctic convoy run and those that did could never have carried anything near that many tanks.

[dantheman4248]

Support Kylin / Change the Flag.

This wasn't hard thing for fans to be behind. Kylin likes the spotlight, yes. Kylin played under that flag for 3 years, yes. What changed? Look around you. The protests have caused some progress. Kylin took note of his status and helped take an effective stand. He realized that America is listening.

3 years ago we weren't. See: Colin Kaepernick.

Kylin likely has every full intention of playing this season, but he recognized a smart opportunity to change a symbol of oppression. He should make you proud to be a bulldog.

[NCDawg]

I don't know where you are getting that from, but it simply isn't true. Yes some supplies came into the USSR through Murmansk and Archangel. But that was never a whole lot compared to Soviet industrial output. Early in the war the Soviets moved many of their factories east of the Ural mountains and by the end of they war they had been producing steadily. For example the Soviets manufactured roughly 80,000 T-34 tanks during the war. Only 1400 ships or so made the arctic convoy run and those that did could never have carried anything near that many tanks.


OK, I see you've done some history research. I know Roosevelt signed a lend-lease agreement to give the Soviet Union 1 billion dollars to fight the war in October, 1941, after we had already given them lots of other supplies. We are surmising what may have happened if we hadn't helped the Soviet Union-nobody really knows. Obviously, Stalingrad was the turning point in the war.

[RiverCityDawg]

This thread went completely off the rails quick.

[dantheman4248]

This thread went completely off the rails quick.

Don't look at me. I just showed up afterwards at the crash site.

[TrapGame]

This thread went completely off the rails quick.

They all do eventually. It's like watching squirrels with spastic diarrhea run around a playground.

[Quaoarsking]

The Soviets would have kicked the everloving shit out of us at the end of WWII. They had more soldiers in Germany at the end than the United States had world wide.

We had the atomic bomb and they didn't.

[Mobile Bay]

OK, I see you've done some history research. I know Roosevelt signed a lend-lease agreement to give the Soviet Union 1 billion dollars to fight the war in October, 1941, after we had already given them lots of other supplies. We are surmising what may have happened if we hadn't helped the Soviet Union-nobody really knows. Obviously, Stalingrad was the turning point in the war.

I have. You see I studied it at a certain State University in Mississippi, where I did get a minor. I can assure you it was not Old Piss.

[Mobile Bay]

We had the atomic bomb and they didn't.

Yeah, but we really didn't. We had working designs for some. But after Nagisaki we were basically out of fissile material. It would have taken us months to make another. And with every strategic target way way the hell out of our bomber range east of the Urals it wouldn't have mattered much. Sure we could have killed a bunch or people and destroyed a lot of tanks, but Stalin wouldn't care.