FBI: Bubba Wallace incident confirmed hoax

[Rex54]

And after that Soviet style spectacle they displayed having every member of every crew walking down pit road behind Bubba, after days of constant media outrage at the evil white debils, after Bubba proudly proclaimed anyone questioning the noose needed to do some soul searching.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/amp/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html?__twitter_impression=true

Turns out it was the garage pully. Can't make this shit up.... The lying media is still calling it a noose though, sick bastards. "The noose has been there since October" as if some random kleagle just dropped it off there in the fall.

Certain groups of people in America can just be slandered with impunity though. And the media pushes every lie. Will apologies be made? I doubt it. Move on to the next boogeyman!

[Rex54]

Your argument is that NASCAR, which holds 5+ races a year at that racetrack, with 39 other cars, mistook a door pull, that's in all the other garages, for a noose as a mistake....

And that Richard Petty, who raced NASCAR in over 1,100 races also mistook the door pull, which you say is common in all the garages, for a noose....



Own up bitch.

[HoopsDawg]

S-M-H.

[Rex54]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbOnu6jX0AIKgB2?format=jpg&name=900x900
You know nascar knew the truth the whole time... so why the decision to push that libel for days???

[Turfdawg67]

And after that Soviet style spectacle they displayed having every member of every crew walking down pit road behind Bubba, after days of constant media outrage at the evil white debils, after Bubba proudly proclaimed anyone questioning the noose needed to do some soul searching.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/amp/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html?__twitter_impression=true

Turns out it was the garage pully. Can't make this shit up.... The lying media is still calling it a noose though, sick bastards. "The noose has been there since October" as if some random kleagle just dropped it off there in the fall.

Certain groups of people in America can just be slandered with impunity though. And the media pushes every lie. Will apologies be made? I doubt it. Move on to the next boogeyman!

I read it from a liberal media source before I saw it here. But keep on keeping on. Oh, and I guess the FBI are "good guys" again. How do we stand with other US Intelligence?

[MrKotter]

Own up bitch.
He'll just say the FBI is lying

[Rex54]

I read it from a liberal media source before I saw it here. But keep on keeping on. Oh, and I guess the FBI are "good guys" again. How do we stand with other US Intelligence?
Take your L and move on (insert slur of your choice)

https://66.media.tumblr.com/83f1beee1e6f7c41d823eb89447c325e/tumblr_ojwq7kYm3H1s3uawvo2_r1_400.gifv

[Turfdawg67]

Take your L and move on (insert slur of your choice)

https://66.media.tumblr.com/83f1beee1e6f7c41d823eb89447c325e/tumblr_ojwq7kYm3H1s3uawvo2_r1_400.gifv

What L are you referring to douche?

[DownwardDawg]

Damn. Some dubmass crew member rushed to judgement trying to be part of the story. I hate this shit. I like Bubba and hate this happened to him. I hope he didn?t know the real story.

[Rex54]

Damn. Some dubmass crew member rushed to judgement trying to be part of the story. I hate this shit. I like Bubba and hate this happened to him. I hope he didn?t know the real story.
You don't think NASCAR knew the whole time? It's impossible for them not to... None of that whole spectacle takes place on the word of some random "crew member"

[BrunswickDawg]

Damn. Some dubmass crew member rushed to judgement trying to be part of the story. I hate this shit. I like Bubba and hate this happened to him. I hope he didn?t know the real story.

Unfortunately, it's the way of the world today.
It's not that different from the NYPD Shake Shack "poisonings" a couple of weeks ago.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/22/how-nypd-faked-shake-shack-controversy-and-conspiracy-theory/

Bubba isn't at fault here, anymore than the cops who got bad shakes.

[Rex54]

What L are you referring to douche?

All those social signaling dopamine hits you won't get to have now.

[turkish]

Unfortunately, it's the way of the world today.
It's not that different from the NYPD Shake Shack "poisonings" a couple of weeks ago.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/22/how-nypd-faked-shake-shack-controversy-and-conspiracy-theory/

Bubba isn't at fault here, anymore than the cops who got bad shakes.
I kinda agree. But then I recall how he really doubled down on his claims to the authenticity of the noose, calling disbelievers small-minded. And I understand that he never actually saw it (could be wrong on that). Other than that, you?re right, someone else is culpable.

[Rex54]

Steve Phelps - Nascar President - "We'll continue to investigate the origins of the NOOSE, why that noose was there in the Fall"

Marty Smith - "It was a noose"

This is unbelievable, they're continuing calling it a flipping noose! As if some random ass noose is just laying around the garage of Talladega Superspeedway for damn near a year! Im here to call out THE KING HAS NO CLOTHES!

[msbulldog]

and yes I yelled that!

[RocketDawg]

Damn. Some dubmass crew member rushed to judgement trying to be part of the story. I hate this shit. I like Bubba and hate this happened to him. I hope he didn?t know the real story.

If all the garage doors had "nooses" for pull ropes, and if the crew member was experienced at Talladega, was he just trying to stir up trouble? Maybe he'd never been there before.

But the thing is - didn't NASCAR and/or Talledega officials know what the pull ropes look like? You'd think someone would have spoken up.

[turkish]

You really wanted it to be a noose didn’t you?

[SmokeyDawg]

If all the garage doors had "nooses" for pull ropes, and if the crew member was experienced at Talladega, was he just trying to stir up trouble? Maybe he'd never been there before.

But the thing is - didn't NASCAR and/or Talledega officials know what the pull ropes look like? You'd think someone would have spoken up.

Gross negligence by a few parties

[RocketDawg]

You really wanted it to be a noose didn’t you?

If you're talking to me, the answer is "no". It just seems that if all, or even several other, doors had such pulls it would have been common knowledge. And apparently that was the case, at least with Garage 5. There's something screwy here - out of all the drivers and crew members, surely someone would have noticed the pulls in the in other races, and if the picture from October 2019 is authentic (and NASCAR says it is), why didn't somebody speak up without going through all the spectacle?

[turkish]

If you're talking to me, the answer is "no". It just seems that if all, or even several other, doors had such pulls it would have been common knowledge. And apparently that was the case, at least with Garage 5. There's something screwy here - out of all the drivers and crew members, surely someone would have noticed the pulls in the in other races, and if the picture from October 2019 is authentic (and NASCAR says it is), why didn't somebody speak up without going through all the spectacle?
No, sir. The yeller. Things got mangled when they moved his thread.

[R2Dawg]

Gross negligence by a few parties

In this day and time, someone should face charges for the false claim. That is downright criminal just like yelling fire in theater or false call to 911.

[Rex54]

why didn't somebody speak up without going through all the spectacle?
Are you kidding me? Our corporate overlords wanted to drag this out as long as possible. Newsflash: they want to destroy nascar, they want to humiliate Southern white males as they take away anything that keeps them separate from the consumerist global strip mall they have planned. That's why the flag has to go. And nascar. And you bet your ass "The Masters" is their next target for a name change.

You can't be allowed a local culture. You can't be allowed to feel politically organized as a unique group with unique interests (Southern Christian Conservative values) You can't be allowed a history, a collective past or future. You must be broken down to an individual atomized consumer unit going into debt to buy cheap goods on credit... across the globe. Southerners have been a bulwark against this tyranny of the Fortune 500 but it's quickly going away between non-Southern immigration (Atlanta, Charlotte, Texas, Nashville) and cucks in our midst. All to line the pockets of the 1% as we lose our humanity. Market Stalinism.

[hacker]

Are you kidding me? Our corporate overlords wanted to drag this out as long as possible. Newsflash: they want to destroy nascar, they want to humiliate Southern white males as they take away anything that keeps them separate from the consumerist global strip mall they have planned. That's why the flag has to go. And nascar. And you bet your ass "The Masters" is their next target for a name change.

You can't be allowed a local culture. You can't be allowed to feel politically organized as a unique group with unique interests (Southern Christian Conservative values) You can't be allowed a history, a collective past or future. You must be broken down to an individual atomized consumer unit going into debt to buy cheap goods on credit... across the globe. Southerners have been a bulwark against this tyranny of the Fortune 500 but it's quickly going away between non-Southern immigration (Atlanta, Charlotte, Texas, Nashville) and cucks in our midst. All to line the pockets of the 1% as we lose our humanity. Market Stalinism.

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[hacker]

All those social signaling dopamine hits you won't get to have now.

You're projecting. You're literally ****ing manic about being right about something on the internet. Congrats, douche.

[turkish]

You're projecting. You're literally ****ing manic about being right about something on the internet. Congrats, douche.
Feeling a little let down this evening, huh?

[turkish]

I’m shocked by the libs that wanted this to have been a hate crime.

[Rex54]

You're projecting. You're literally ****ing manic about being right about something on the internet. Congrats, douche.
Dunk on you too, commie

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[Matt3467]

I told my wife last week as soon as I heard this story that I didn't believe it. Glad to see I was right, but sad to see I'm not surprised.

[GreenheadDawg]

NM

[DownwardDawg]

I’m shocked by the libs that wanted this to have been a hate crime.

Me too. I’m pissed about it. I’m glad it’s not true but I feel stupid for believing it. I like Bubba and had started watching NASCAR again this summer because they were the first sport back. I’m mad about this.

[Ari Gold]

Unfortunately, it's the way of the world today.
It's not that different from the NYPD Shake Shack "poisonings" a couple of weeks ago.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/22/how-nypd-faked-shake-shack-controversy-and-conspiracy-theory/

Bubba isn't at fault here, anymore than the cops who got bad shakes.

Disagree ... we dont know if Bubba isnt a fault ... Im sure this will get swept under the rug even tho it shouldnt there needs to Be a person or people held accountable for this...

[SmokeyDawg]

Take your L and move on (insert slur of your choice)

https://66.media.tumblr.com/83f1beee1e6f7c41d823eb89447c325e/tumblr_ojwq7kYm3H1s3uawvo2_r1_400.gifv

By "take your L and move on" do you mean raise statues and print flags?

I'm as elated as you are that there wasn't a hate crime against Bubba. They handled this terribly

[Joebob]

And after that Soviet style spectacle they displayed having every member of every crew walking down pit road behind Bubba, after days of constant media outrage at the evil white debils, after Bubba proudly proclaimed anyone questioning the noose needed to do some soul searching.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/amp/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html?__twitter_impression=true

Turns out it was the garage pully. Can't make this shit up.... The lying media is still calling it a noose though, sick bastards. "The noose has been there since October" as if some random kleagle just dropped it off there in the fall.

Certain groups of people in America can just be slandered with impunity though. And the media pushes every lie. Will apologies be made? I doubt it. Move on to the next boogeyman!

Not sure what media you listen to, but you need to find a new source. Every media outlet I've seen has said it was not a noose.

[ShotgunDawg]

Apparently this is what it looked like



https://media.disrn.com/articles/bef992f1-6e8a-4f6e-94b1-49831c71f235.jpg

[ShotgunDawg]

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[ShotgunDawg]

This is unreal

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[TXDawg]

The only people who see that as a “noose” instead of a handle to pull down a door are those that are looking for a reason to be offended (or are wanting to start a controversy).

How else do you tie a hand hold into the end of a rope?

[Rex54]

This is unreal

Not sure what media you listen to, but you need to find a new source. Every media outlet I've seen has said it was not a noose.
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/29354929

Joebob another one....
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[msstate7]

https://i.postimg.cc/qvgHh5R9/0066781-D-A434-490-E-8-E5-B-4-DAA8419-EAD3.jpg (https://postimg.cc/nX8PNTqk)

https://twitter.com/jemelehill/status/1275608611276730368?s=21

[Saltydog]

It only took 15 FBI agents, that's right they sent 15 agents to Talladega, to figure this out. The ole boys running NASCAR obviously aren't the brightest lights in the hall. Un freaking believable.

[SheltonChoked]

Own up bitch.

Nothing I said was incorrect.

FBI says it was a noose. NASCAR says it was a noose.

It was just not targeted at Bubba Wallace.

Cannot imagine why the Crew of BLM supporter in Alabama would see a Noose in his garage and not report it.....

[ShotgunDawg]

Nothing I said was incorrect.

FBI says it was a noose. NASCAR says it was a noose.

It was just not targeted at Bubba Wallace.

Cannot imagine why the Crew of BLM supporter in Alabama would see a Noose in his garage and not report it.....

I think the crux of this situation is how much did the rope actually look like a noose?

If the rope was actually a noose then it's a pretty understandable situation within the heightened times of sensitivity we live in. However, if the rope was just another type of smaller knot that actually looks nothing like a noose, then we've got an issue

[Rex54]

Nothing I said was incorrect.

FBI says it was a noose. NASCAR says it was a noose..

You are a communist propagandist.

[msstate7]

I think the crux of this situation is how much did the rope actually look like a noose?

If the rope was actually a noose then it's a pretty understandable situation within the heightened times of sensitivity we live in. However, if the rope was just another type of smaller knot that actually looks nothing like a noose, then we've got an issue

And still, no pics. Personally, I think the pics haven't been released bc it'll make this situation look ridiculous. We get photos and video of everything these days, but not this for some reason.

[SheltonChoked]

I think the crux of this situation is how much did the rope actually look like a noose?

If the rope was actually a noose then it's a pretty understandable situation within the heightened times of sensitivity we live in. However, if the rope was just another type of smaller knot that actually looks nothing like a noose, then we've got an issue

I agree.

If the pull rope was tied like this:

https://www.101knots.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/How-to-Tie-a-Hangmans-Noose.jpg

Then, it's a noose and they should have investigated...

If it was tied in any other way, then it's an overreaction.

I'm assuming that someone in Nascar or the FBI that say it was a noose, know what a hangman's knot looks like...

[ShotgunDawg]

And still, no pics. Personally, I think the pics haven't been released bc it'll make this situation look ridiculous. We get photos and video of everything these days, but not this for some reason.

Agree. NASCAR says since it's still an open investigation they can't release photos.

We'll have to see how long it takes for them to release them

[SheltonChoked]

You are a communist propagandist.

Coming from you, that is a compliment.

[ShotgunDawg]

I agree.

If the pull rope was tied like this:

https://www.101knots.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/How-to-Tie-a-Hangmans-Noose.jpg

Then, it's a noose and they should have investigated...

If it was tied in any other way, then it's an overreaction.

I'm assuming that someone in Nascar or the FBI that say it was a noose, know what a hangman's knot looks like...

Agree. Although there has to be some leeway because the person that saw it may not exactly know what is a noose & what is not

[Lord McBuckethead]

And after that Soviet style spectacle they displayed having every member of every crew walking down pit road behind Bubba, after days of constant media outrage at the evil white debils, after Bubba proudly proclaimed anyone questioning the noose needed to do some soul searching.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453051/amp/FBI-says-noose-Bubba-Wallaces-garage-misunderstanding.html?__twitter_impression=true

Turns out it was the garage pully. Can't make this shit up.... The lying media is still calling it a noose though, sick bastards. "The noose has been there since October" as if some random kleagle just dropped it off there in the fall.

Certain groups of people in America can just be slandered with impunity though. And the media pushes every lie. Will apologies be made? I doubt it. Move on to the next boogeyman!

What is your problem? It wasn't obvious enough for NASCAR at the moment it was reported. It wasn't obvious to the other 41 drivers in the field. You do understand that racism is bad right? You do understand, in this climate, something as simple as this can be misunderstood because they have to deal with people like you 24/7. I am glad it was proven to be a misunderstanding. As Leech can testify, you don't 17 around with nooses.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Rex, can you point out on this doll here where a liberal touched you?

[smootness]

What is your problem? It wasn't obvious enough for NASCAR at the moment it was reported. It wasn't obvious to the other 41 drivers in the field. You do understand that racism is bad right? You do understand, in this climate, something as simple as this can be misunderstood because they have to deal with people like you 24/7. I am glad it was proven to be a misunderstanding. As Leech can testify, you don't 17 around with nooses.

Racism is abhorrent and should be called out in every instance.

However, being quick to shout 'racism' at things that actually aren't racist in no way assists in the effort to stamp out racism. It actually hurts it.

In this climate, we should be extra cautious about labeling things as racist for that very reason.

[Rex54]

Rex, can you point out on this doll here where a liberal touched you?
You're so mad that this was a hoax, as they all are. Dunk on you too, subversive commie.
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[Lord McBuckethead]

Look here is my issue, which I believe it is an issue for most people on this board.

Rex is a great example of a person that has lost his way in his patriotic life. I am not sure what his goals are, but this post really serves zero purpose. It is one of those "gotcha moments" people today just love to promote. What does this post even prove? A story came out in a NASCAR pit area that a noose was found in the only black racers spot. The media reported the news, added commentary to clarify what was going on after the initial reporting, the FBI came in and did their job, and then the media reported that it was not a hate crime. If anything, the media did exactly what the media should do.

Now, Rex comes on here like someone owes him an apology. Like he has won something. Something we all need to acknowledge. Well you know what, buddy Rex? 17 that. We don't owe you an apology. We don't have to eat crow. We discuss things on message boards live, as we know the facts. You want to cry about the media, shit man. They are literally doing the same thing we do every single day. They discuss things as they know the facts.

Like I said, Rex is a great example of the toxic, juvenile, low brow type of voter we have in this country. They refuse to have empathy for anyone else. They blame the media, ANTIFA, etc for their small dicks. Guess what buddy, this country is never going back to the time you loved, the segregated 1950s. Your childhood is gone. People have seen or are starting to see the racism that encompasses every aspect of our lives, including this message board through posts like this one. And they are refusing to play along anymore. I personally will call out racism every time I see it.

I have one set of questions for Rex. Do you believe every citizen of the United States deserves equal protection under the law and equality across the board? Do you believe that our citizens have a responsibility to ensure equality for all people? Do you believe, somehow the white man has been attacked by the fight for equality of all citizens? I believe everyone deserves equality. I believe something like our flag shouldn't even be an issue, because we can all see it was a super racist power move in the 1800s to begin with, and we do not need that shit anymore. That is why I stand with kylin. That is why I was outraged that a noose found its way into Budda's pit area. That is also why I am glad that the Bubba Noose situation proved to be false. That means there is one less bigot in this world.

So please Rex, please keep posting your typical stuff. The only thing you can possibly post, that will shock anyone, is if one of your posts wasn't dripping with racist bullshit and displayed some higher understanding of societies issues with you NOT on the racist bullshit side of things. So either stop being part of the problem, or just stop posting. "Street lights are on" for your generation, buddy.

[confucius say]

Racism is abhorrent and should be called out in every instance.

However, being quick to shout 'racism' at things that actually aren't racist in no way assists in the effort to stamp out racism. It actually hurts it.

In this climate, we should be extra cautious about labeling things as racist for that very reason.

Some don't see racism, or at least connotations of racism, where they probably should. I think the flag is a perfect example of this.

Conversely, others see it everywhere and are looking for it. I think a rope tied in a manner to perform an innocent job like pulling down a door, even if tied in the form of a noose, that has been in a garage full of white people for nearly a year and that Wallace stated last night "wasn't directed at me" is a perfect example of this. Context matters.

[Lord McBuckethead]

You're so mad that this was a hoax, as they all are. Dunk on you too, subversive commie.
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First off, it wasn't a hoax. It was found not to be what was initially believed to be.
Also, I am relieved it was not a racist motivated attack on a citizen. I am not mad in any of the sort. I am more personally mad at your general outlook on life and society, but that is my personal take.

[confucius say]

The media did not report the news. The media rarely does so.
The media makes money off of divisiveness and purposefully promotes it at the expense of fact based reporting. And that goes for liberal and conservative media. The media tries to rip us apart and we, as a society, let it play us like a fiddle.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Some don't see racism, or at least connotations of racism, where they probably should. I think the flag is a perfect example of this.

Conversely, others see it everywhere and are looking for it. I think a rope tied in a manner to perform an innocent job like pulling down a door, even if tied in the form of a noose, that has been in a garage full of white people for nearly a year and that Wallace stated last night "wasn't directed at me" is a perfect example of this. Context matters.

There is no doubt about being able to see racism is damn near anything. There is also no doubt that there are tons of racist crap in our typical lives. So much so, that most people don't even know they are being racist. Pointing it out is an important first step to getting everyone to a higher level of society. Sorry, but I am not sure how else to do it. Some people have to be embarrassed.

[Lord McBuckethead]

The media did not report the news. The media rarely does so.
The media makes money off of divisiveness and purposefully promotes it at the expense of fact based reporting. And that goes for liberal and conservative media. The media tries to rip us apart and we, as a society, let it play us like a fiddle.

yes and no. Even Fox News and MSNBC reports the news. It's the following 55 minutes of bullshit you have to look out for. One of the biggest issues I have are the commentator experts they bring on are generally unqualified. They have done this so often, when they do have someone on that has the credentials, everyone yells fake news and turns it off. It definitely is a problem.

[Lord McBuckethead]

The media did not report the news. The media rarely does so.
The media makes money off of divisiveness and purposefully promotes it at the expense of fact based reporting. And that goes for liberal and conservative media. The media tries to rip us apart and we, as a society, let it play us like a fiddle.

they do report the news. Unfortunately, if you were not tuned in at that moment, you have to put up with 23 hours of conjecture based on that news.

[turkish]

First off, it wasn't a hoax... it was not a racist motivated attack on a citizen
Contradicts.

If people had not immediately assumed it was a racially motivated attack, it would not have been on every news outlet in the free world, and discussed as such

[Rex54]

People have seen or are starting to see the racism that encompasses every aspect of our lives .
It is my duty to fight back against this blood libel. Europeans are so incredibly anti-racist they've been brainwashed to give away their own nations, history, and culture. This has been done by the capitalists who want your identity not based on your ancestors, nation, and religion but in their products. Spiteful mutants like yourself, called "useful idiots" by the powers that be in the past, are just a pawn in the complete eradication of Western Civilization in favor of a global multicultural strip mall devoid of all that makes us human beings made in the image of God. They found that complete control was so much easier to implement under "liberal capital market Stalinism" rather than governmental control.

[BeardoMSU]

It is my duty to fight back against this blood libel. Europeans are so incredibly anti-racist they've been brainwashed to give away their own nations, history, and culture. This has been done by the capitalists who want your identity not based on your ancestors, nation, and religion but in their products. Spiteful mutants like yourself, called "useful idiots" by the powers that be in the past, are just a pawn in the complete eradication of Western Civilization in favor of a global multicultural strip mall devoid of all that makes us human beings made in the image of God. They found that complete control was so much easier to implement under "liberal capital market Stalinism" rather than governmental control.

Please tell me the tinfoil hat you wear also comes with tinfoil condoms...

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I have some nooses hanging in my closet. Wait, those are neckties. Sorry.

[smootness]

Part of the reason this took off as quickly as it did is because it played into the stereotypes people have of NASCAR, its fans, and the south in general. It was too easy for a whole lot of people to believe it happened; I would venture so far as to say that there are plenty of people who wanted it to be true so they could dogpile. That is a problem. I don't have an issue with what the media did until it was proven false. Now you have many continuing to say things like, 'It was a noose, and even if it wasn't directed at Bubba Wallace, it is a problem.' Based on what we now know, it really isn't a problem.

There is no doubt there are people on the other side who are just as bad or even worse, who either do have serious prejudice (we all have some level of prejudice) or at the very least want for people to go too far so they can point and laugh. They are too quick to dismiss any incident as being a hoax or inconsequential.

Both are bad, and both should be called out. If there had been a noose in Bubba Wallace's garage, it would be despicable and my guess is that at least 80% of people would be disgusted by it. The fact that I can't confidently say a higher % is a problem. But since there wasn't, everyone should agree that it was nothing and either apologize or at least move on. My guess is there are at most 80% of people willing to do that, and the fact that that number isn't higher is a problem.

[BB30]

Part of the reason this took off as quickly as it did is because it played into the stereotypes people have of NASCAR, its fans, and the south in general. It was too easy for a whole lot of people to believe it happened; I would venture so far as to say that there are plenty of people who wanted it to be true so they could dogpile. That is a problem. I don't have an issue with what the media did until it was proven false. Now you have many continuing to say things like, 'It was a noose, and even if it wasn't directed at Bubba Wallace, it is a problem.' Based on what we now know, it really isn't a problem.

There is no doubt there are people on the other side who are just as bad or even worse, who either do have serious prejudice (we all have some level of prejudice) or at the very least want for people to go too far so they can point and laugh. They are too quick to dismiss any incident as being a hoax or inconsequential.

Both are bad, and both should be called out. If there had been a noose in Bubba Wallace's garage, it would be despicable and my guess is that at least 80% of people would be disgusted by it. The fact that I can't confidently say a higher % is a problem. But since there wasn't, everyone should agree that it was nothing and either apologize or at least move on. My guess is there are at most 80% of people willing to do that, and the fact that that number isn't higher is a problem.

It is a sad state of affairs when people are disappointed that something wasn't racist just because it now no longer fits the narrative. You would think this would be a positive thing that it wasn't a noose. The mental gymnastics that one has to do to still justify this as a racist noose is pretty impressive. Gold medal standard.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I don't know anyone that is disappointed that it wasn't a noose. Thank God that it wasn't a noose. There is no place in this world for that type of demonstration. That should be left in the 1920s where it belongs.

My view on the "narrative" is that it is a great thing that so many people reacted the way they did to this story. This type of action should be called out every single time. It is fantastic that this situation did not prove to be what many feared it was, but the fact remains that this sort of action happens in real life. I don't deal with it, but some do. The fact that they do, is total bullshit in modern life.

The discussion about the "narrative" is just a weak discussion in my opinion. The narrative is simple, Racism is done and it will be called out publicly ever single time.
If you don't like it, well better stand up and support those fighting for the end of racism. The faster we stop tolerating this type of action the sooner we can all just drop it.

[turkish]

Part of the reason this took off as quickly as it did is because it played into the stereotypes people have of NASCAR, its fans, and the south in general. It was too easy for a whole lot of people to believe it happened;
You mean to tell me assumptions of ill-will and malice were made about a group, because of their ethnic and cultural background? Surely the ?it?s a noose? crowd wouldnt behave that way.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Part of the reason this took off as quickly as it did is because it played into the stereotypes people have of NASCAR, its fans, and the south in general. It was too easy for a whole lot of people to believe it happened; I would venture so far as to say that there are plenty of people who wanted it to be true so they could dogpile. That is a problem. I don't have an issue with what the media did until it was proven false. Now you have many continuing to say things like, 'It was a noose, and even if it wasn't directed at Bubba Wallace, it is a problem.' Based on what we now know, it really isn't a problem.

There is no doubt there are people on the other side who are just as bad or even worse, who either do have serious prejudice (we all have some level of prejudice) or at the very least want for people to go too far so they can point and laugh. They are too quick to dismiss any incident as being a hoax or inconsequential.

Both are bad, and both should be called out. If there had been a noose in Bubba Wallace's garage, it would be despicable and my guess is that at least 80% of people would be disgusted by it. The fact that I can't confidently say a higher % is a problem. But since there wasn't, everyone should agree that it was nothing and either apologize or at least move on. My guess is there are at most 80% of people willing to do that, and the fact that that number isn't higher is a problem.

Who do they need to apologize to? Who needs to do the apologizing? Seems to me no one was involved in this situation. Are you saying the media should apologize? They didn't raise the alarm, NASCAR did. I really do not see who owes who an apology. Did the story hurt you as a white person? Did it offend you? I would say that more than 80% would be disgusted by it. More like 90%. And that is a good thing. The problem is, the other 10% have a serious issue, that at this point no one can address or correct. it is the way they were raised or personal ideology they personally prescribe to. Not unlike fundamentalist Muslims in that way. Ideologies are impossible to change. Also, those 10% pollute the issue in the public forums. 10% leads to a dumb ass discussions about defending something that is kin to the person that would hang a noose.

Back to the original post. What the hell is this entire topic about? You want me to admit the media got it wrong? They sure did. So did Bubba, his entire crew, the car owner, NASCAR, all other drivers, and everyone that heard the initial information.
The awesome thing to me is that NASCAR handled this fantastically. They dropped the hammer and stated that anyone involved would be banned for life. The drivers stood with their fellow competitor in support. Old timers like Richard Petty showed his support, linking old ass bitches to this situation. Literally everything was handled perfectly. They even worked with the FBI to get an answer to the situation. Perfect.

So to Rex, you are vindicated. The entire media is out against your way of life.

[confucius say]

I don't know anyone that is disappointed that it wasn't a noose. Thank God that it wasn't a noose. There is no place in this world for that type of demonstration. That should be left in the 1920s where it belongs.

My view on the "narrative" is that it is a great thing that so many people reacted the way they did to this story. This type of action should be called out every single time. It is fantastic that this situation did not prove to be what many feared it was, but the fact remains that this sort of action happens in real life. I don't deal with it, but some do. The fact that they do, is total bullshit in modern life.

The discussion about the "narrative" is just a weak discussion in my opinion. The narrative is simple, Racism is done and it will be called out publicly ever single time.
If you don't like it, well better stand up and support those fighting for the end of racism. The faster we stop tolerating this type of action the sooner we can all just drop it.

You don't see an issue with immediately labeling an act or situation as racism before delving into the facts to determine if it actually was a result of racism? If nothing else, doing so "waters down" true racism. It's the like the boy who cried wolf; when there actually is a wolf, people may not believe you.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Also, I believe most people learned to tie different type of knots for random shit. So there is that, too.

[Lord McBuckethead]

You don't see an issue with immediately labeling an act or situation as racism before delving into the facts to determine if it actually was a result of racism? If nothing else, doing so "waters down" true racism. It's the like the boy who cried wolf; when there actually is a wolf, people may not believe you.

Sure, jumping to conclusions is a terrible thing. You do have to understand it wasn't one person that was concerned about this situation. It was literally 100s of people that were there in real time, with Bubba and his team. They thought it was questionable enough to bring it up. You have to trust their initial opinion. The second it gets out into the public, and I am not sure how it did, it is immediately discussed within the facts we know through what is happening in society. that is why it is great that it was clarified properly through actual people independent of the situation (FBI). Not everything is defcom 1, but I am glad that everyone involved handled this perfectly and it is awesome that it wasn't done as a direct attack against a driver.

[shoeless joe]

There is no doubt about being able to see racism is damn near anything. There is also no doubt that there are tons of racist crap in our typical lives. So much so, that most people don't even know they are being racist. Pointing it out is an important first step to getting everyone to a higher level of society. Sorry, but I am not sure how else to do it. Some people have to be embarrassed.

I just disagree with this. When you have folks that are not racist and you begin telling them that things they do are racist and because they do these things they are a racist, you are setting up the divisiveness. So now those folks begin to blow off actual racism because they?ve been told they?re racist when they know they?re not. Basically crying wolf on racism.

[Lord McBuckethead]

You don't see an issue with immediately labeling an act or situation as racism before delving into the facts to determine if it actually was a result of racism? If nothing else, doing so "waters down" true racism. It's the like the boy who cried wolf; when there actually is a wolf, people may not believe you.

Also there are more than one type of "real racism". Sometimes people don't even know they are being racist. I would almost classify those actions as 3rd degree racism. People just need to be aware, and show an ability to try not to be racist. It is really that easy.
We all can say, the confederate statues that were only installed to point out to black people that they are not in control, are racist and shouldn't be celebrated. Like 90% of those statues were erected during the hieght of Jim Crow and the civil rights movement. I would say, these specifically were erected to subjugate black people. 4 years of CSA cannot be what defines our culture and heritage. We have actual good stuff in our history to hold up.

We all can say, as Mississippians we have evolved beyond the need of the CSA battle flag on our flag. Race relations in Mississippi is an odd thing. We deal with it daily here, unlike places like MN.

the unfortunate thing, we once again look to be dragging our collective feet on civil rights stuff. The governor should have demanded the state flag to be removed like 40 years ago.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I just disagree with this. When you have folks that are not racist and you begin telling them that things they do are racist and because they do these things they are a racist, you are setting up the divisiveness. So now those folks begin to blow off actual racism because they?ve been told they?re racist when they know they?re not. Basically crying wolf on racism.

i disagree. I have to remind people around me that their statements or outlook on something is at least borderline racist. It is usually people around 60-75 years old, but still. Sometimes those ideas need to be discussed out loud, because if not it is like condoning it. And I cannot for one do it, and I appreciate it when people call me out as well. helps prune the culture.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I just disagree with this. When you have folks that are not racist and you begin telling them that things they do are racist and because they do these things they are a racist, you are setting up the divisiveness. So now those folks begin to blow off actual racism because they?ve been told they?re racist when they know they?re not. Basically crying wolf on racism.

I do understand what you are saying as well. Like all things, nothing lives in absolutes. I don't see any downfall to just saying if you hear something, hey man that is a little racist. Almost all of us are trying to be better people and fellow citizens. We can get there, but it takes time.

If you know a better way, to help other people from being racist I would like to hear it.

[Rex54]

Also there are more than one type of "real racism". Sometimes people don't even know they are being racist. I would almost classify those actions as 3rd degree racism. People just need to be aware, and show an ability to try not to be racist. It is really that easy.
"White people's history and culture is being systematically targeted for erasure and everywhere they live there is a program of systematic demographic replacement."

What level of "racism" does that fall under: 1, 2, or 3?

[BeardoMSU]

"White people's history and culture is being systematically targeted for erasure and everywhere they live there is a program of systematic demographic replacement."

What level of "racism" does that fall under: 1, 2, or 3?

This is beyond bat shit, lol. What are you like the most fragile mother ****er on the planet or is your brain broken?

[Rex54]

This is beyond bat shit, lol. What are you like the most fragile mother ****er on the planet or is your brain broken?
Riiiiiight.... People aren't stupid you know.

https://i2.wp.com/palaceintrigueblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/splctracking2.png?resize=459%2C371&ssl=1

[BeardoMSU]

"White people's history and culture is being systematically targeted for erasure and everywhere they live there is a program of systematic demographic replacement."

What level of "racism" does that fall under: 1, 2, or 3?

Btw, since you've decided to swan dive head first into the white supremacist tropes, I'm curious what your next user-name will be when you inevitably wear out your welcome again? 007 last time....Rex this time....what's next?

And while you're at it, why not just lay all your cards on the table. How about explain your issues with Israel you hinted at in the other thread?

[BeardoMSU]

Riiiiiight.... People aren't stupid you know.

https://i2.wp.com/palaceintrigueblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/splctracking2.png?resize=459%2C371&ssl=1

Oh boy...nothing like fuzzy images off the internet with dubious provenience...

[Rex54]

Btw, since you've decided to swan dive head first into the white supremacist tropes, I'm curious what your next user-name will be when you inevitably wear out your welcome again? 007 last time....Rex this time....what's next? And while you're at it, why not just lay all your cards on the table. How about explain your issues with Israel you hinted at in the other thread?

Not wanting your history, culture, nations, and religion done away with is now "supremacy" - got it, Mr. water carrier for the Fortune 500.

[Turfdawg67]

"White people's history and culture is being systematically targeted for erasure and everywhere they live there is a program of systematic demographic replacement."

What level of "racism" does that fall under: 1, 2, or 3?

Whomp whomp

[BeardoMSU]

got it, Mr. water carrier for the Fortune 500.

Very astute retort.

https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdk9oh9i2X1rhxd21o1_500.gif

[smootness]

Who do they need to apologize to? Who needs to do the apologizing? Seems to me no one was involved in this situation. Are you saying the media should apologize? They didn't raise the alarm, NASCAR did. I really do not see who owes who an apology. Did the story hurt you as a white person? Did it offend you? I would say that more than 80% would be disgusted by it. More like 90%. And that is a good thing. The problem is, the other 10% have a serious issue, that at this point no one can address or correct. it is the way they were raised or personal ideology they personally prescribe to. Not unlike fundamentalist Muslims in that way. Ideologies are impossible to change. Also, those 10% pollute the issue in the public forums. 10% leads to a dumb ass discussions about defending something that is kin to the person that would hang a noose.

Back to the original post. What the hell is this entire topic about? You want me to admit the media got it wrong? They sure did. So did Bubba, his entire crew, the car owner, NASCAR, all other drivers, and everyone that heard the initial information.
The awesome thing to me is that NASCAR handled this fantastically. They dropped the hammer and stated that anyone involved would be banned for life. The drivers stood with their fellow competitor in support. Old timers like Richard Petty showed his support, linking old ass bitches to this situation. Literally everything was handled perfectly. They even worked with the FBI to get an answer to the situation. Perfect.

So to Rex, you are vindicated. The entire media is out against your way of life.

The people like Jemele Hill who said, and I quote, that the Bubba Wallace incident was 'a painful reminder of just how much people are invested in maintaining racist institutions' and said it is a reminder of who the sport is for. That is who should apologize. Was I personally offended by that? No, because I'm not a NASCAR fan. Can I understand how NASCAR fans could be offended by that kind of a picture painted of them? Absolutely.

And yes, I can guarantee some people like her were, deep down, actually disappointed it proved to not be true. That is pretty clearly the case, since they can't let it go even now.

I do support those fighting for the end of racism. I join that fight. Jumping onto incidents like this and riding them into the ground despite all evidence is counterproductive and actually serves to hurt that fight. That is my point. I believe it was handled correctly by pretty much everyone (except those making broader generalizations) up until the point at which it was proven to not be true. Once that happened, those backing away got it right. Those continuing to try to shape this into something worth discussing are now handling it incorrectly.

I agree with you that the fact that just about everybody agrees a purposeful noose inside someone's stall is disgusting and not tolerated is a positive thing. Some people want you to believe that many people don't think that's disgusting, and those are the people still riding this. That is not a positive thing.

[Turfdawg67]

Pretty much any 007/Rex comment...

https://i.postimg.cc/52Ps3Grt/944-FCD75-E5-D5-4-F6-F-9204-16155-D9-E5442.gif

[smootness]

For the record, I'm not with Rex. There is a point at the bottom of what he is saying specifically about the Bubba Wallace incident, but then he piles a bunch of crap I don't agree with on top of that point and goes way overboard. He would be one of the 20% I was talking about in the other direction.

[Turfdawg67]

The people like Jemele Hill who said, and I quote, that the Bubba Wallace incident was 'a painful reminder of just how much people are invested in maintaining racist institutions' and said it is a reminder of who the sport is for. That is who should apologize. Was I personally offended by that? No, because I'm not a NASCAR fan. Can I understand how NASCAR fans could be offended by that kind of a picture painted of them? Absolutely.

And yes, I can guarantee some people like her were, deep down, actually disappointed it proved to not be true. That is pretty clearly the case, since they can't let it go even now.

I do support those fighting for the end of racism. I join that fight. Jumping onto incidents like this and riding them into the ground despite all evidence is counterproductive and actually serves to hurt that fight. That is my point. I believe it was handled correctly by pretty much everyone (except those making broader generalizations) up until the point at which it was proven to not be true. Once that happened, those backing away got it right. Those continuing to try to shape this into something worth discussing are now handling it incorrectly.

I agree with you that the fact that just about everybody agrees a purposeful noose inside someone's stall is disgusting and not tolerated is a positive thing. Some people want you to believe that many people don't think that's disgusting, and those are the people still riding this. That is not a positive thing.

Well, as a semi-fan of the sport and a family member/friend of avid fans of the sport, let me assure you that you need not feel for them... for she was absolutely correct.

[smootness]

Well, as a semi-fan of the sport and a family member/friend of avid fans of the sport, let me assure you that you need not feel for them... for she was absolutely correct.

I'm not even saying she was wrong about the generalization she made. But using this to support that argument proved to be, obviously, false and ridiculous. Which should at the very least be corrected.

[msstate7]

Well, as a semi-fan of the sport and a family member/friend of avid fans of the sport, let me assure you that you need not feel for them... for she was absolutely correct.

Painting with a broad brush there, eh? Guess you "semi" racist as a "semi-fan"

[Lord McBuckethead]

"White people's history and culture is being systematically targeted for erasure and everywhere they live there is a program of systematic demographic replacement."

What level of "racism" does that fall under: 1, 2, or 3?

Well let me know the parts they are systematically trying to target for erasure, and I will tell you at what level that white person's shit is racist.

[Rex54]

For the record, I'm not with Rex. There is a point at the bottom of what he is saying specifically about the Bubba Wallace incident, but then he piles a bunch of crap I don't agree with on top of that point and goes way overboard. He would be one of the 20% I was talking about in the other direction.
"Way overboard" = way truthful. As the nation plunges leftward staying always in the "middle" just keeps you moving left too. Our society is a joke. The media uses lies about police brutality and "racism" being a widespread phenomenon and defend the rioting, looting, and violence that follows. Statues of founding fathers are being toppled daily. We're witnessing the destruction of our civilization and you people are too scared to point it out. Well, I'll say it. The king has no clothes. Racism is almost nonexistent in America. The interracial violent crime stats are so disproportionate it's almost comical and yet nobody talks about that. The Fortune 500 has more power than the Soviet politburo ever dreamed of and is turning the world crazy in hopes of breaking all relationship with the past, with community, with nationhood, with religion with collective group interests to line their pockets.

[BrunswickDawg]

The people like Jemele Hill who said, and I quote, that the Bubba Wallace incident was 'a painful reminder of just how much people are invested in maintaining racist institutions' and said it is a reminder of who the sport is for. That is who should apologize. Was I personally offended by that? No, because I'm not a NASCAR fan. Can I understand how NASCAR fans could be offended by that kind of a picture painted of them? Absolutely.

And yes, I can guarantee some people like her were, deep down, actually disappointed it proved to not be true. That is pretty clearly the case, since they can't let it go even now.

I do support those fighting for the end of racism. I join that fight. Jumping onto incidents like this and riding them into the ground despite all evidence is counterproductive and actually serves to hurt that fight. That is my point. I believe it was handled correctly by pretty much everyone (except those making broader generalizations) up until the point at which it was proven to not be true. Once that happened, those backing away got it right. Those continuing to try to shape this into something worth discussing are now handling it incorrectly.

I agree with you that the fact that just about everybody agrees a purposeful noose inside someone's stall is disgusting and not tolerated is a positive thing. Some people want you to believe that many people don't think that's disgusting, and those are the people still riding this. That is not a positive thing.

I think something that has to be placed into context with this incident is that NASCAR was already at DEFCON 1 because they had just banned the Battle Flag from events - and the first event would be at that bastion of rednecks known as Dega. And if you have ever been to a race at Dega, you know - it's redneck spectacle beyond compare. They had already had to kick people out with the flag, and I am sure they were expecting the worst. So, when you have something like this pop up in the middle of everything else- NASCAR over-reacting doesn't seem that out of line.

[Rex54]

Well let me know the parts they are systematically trying to target for erasure, and I will tell you at what level that white person's shit is racist.
We get it. You're driven by a fanatical anti-white animus. America today makes it easy to understand how the gulags we're allowed to happen.

[Lord McBuckethead]

The people like Jemele Hill who said, and I quote, that the Bubba Wallace incident was 'a painful reminder of just how much people are invested in maintaining racist institutions' and said it is a reminder of who the sport is for. That is who should apologize. Was I personally offended by that? No, because I'm not a NASCAR fan. Can I understand how NASCAR fans could be offended by that kind of a picture painted of them? Absolutely.

And yes, I can guarantee some people like her were, deep down, actually disappointed it proved to not be true. That is pretty clearly the case, since they can't let it go even now.

I do support those fighting for the end of racism. I join that fight. Jumping onto incidents like this and riding them into the ground despite all evidence is counterproductive and actually serves to hurt that fight. That is my point. I believe it was handled correctly by pretty much everyone (except those making broader generalizations) up until the point at which it was proven to not be true. Once that happened, those backing away got it right. Those continuing to try to shape this into something worth discussing are now handling it incorrectly.

I agree with you that the fact that just about everybody agrees a purposeful noose inside someone's stall is disgusting and not tolerated is a positive thing. Some people want you to believe that many people don't think that's disgusting, and those are the people still riding this. That is not a positive thing.

She should apologize that this one instance was not a reminder of just how much people are invested in maintaining racist institutions. Then she should point at the fans that paid for the gigantic rebel flag sign pulled by the airplane around the course last week, and the people bitching about the rebel flag ban. Either way, she should apologize. Her example was the wrong one to use. At least my two examples have nothing to do with NASCAR proper. Which is awesome that NASCAR is doing their duty and trying to squash that kind of crap.

[BeardoMSU]

We get it. You're driven by a fanatical anti-white animus. America today makes it easy to understand how the gulags we're allowed to happen.

The only fanaticism in thread is coming from you, dude.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I think something that has to be placed into context with this incident is that NASCAR was already at DEFCON 1 because they had just banned the Battle Flag from events - and the first event would be at that bastion of rednecks known as Dega. And if you have ever been to a race at Dega, you know - it's redneck spectacle beyond compare. They had already had to kick people out with the flag, and I am sure they were expecting the worst. So, when you have something like this pop up in the middle of everything else- NASCAR over-reacting doesn't seem that out of line.

I actually never considered the exact timing of this incident other than the national atmosphere. Great point. I would add, NASCAR didn't over-react. Their reaction was perfect and i wish more would follow their lead. TAP, TAP, MS legislature.

[Lord McBuckethead]

We get it. You're driven by a fanatical anti-white animus. America today makes it easy to understand how the gulags we're allowed to happen.

you do realize that you viewpoint is the path to a gulag....right?
My viewpoint is for equality. My viewpoint is the vast morale high ground.

I don't know you, but from reading your takes on things I would have to conclude we wouldn't agree about much.

[Turfdawg67]

Like I said...

https://i.postimg.cc/52Ps3Grt/944-FCD75-E5-D5-4-F6-F-9204-16155-D9-E5442.gif

[Lord McBuckethead]

Rex
What was the goal of this thread?

[Rex54]

you do realize that you viewpoint is the path to a gulag....right?
My viewpoint is for equality. My viewpoint is the vast morale high ground.

I don't know you, but from reading your takes on things I would have to conclude we wouldn't agree about much.
No, I think I know my history of Russia in 1917, Spain in 1936, and China in 1966 to understand where things are and which side you are on, but thanks for playing.

[Rex54]

Rex
What was the goal of this thread?
Awareness promotion

[Lord McBuckethead]

No, I think I know my history of Russia in 1917, Spain in 1936, and China in 1966 to understand where things are and which side you are on, but thanks for playing.

Dang this is funny as shit. Well it would be if it wasn't tragic.

[smootness]

She should apologize that this one instance was not a reminder of just how much people are invested in maintaining racist institutions. Then she should point at the fans that paid for the gigantic rebel flag sign pulled by the airplane around the course last week, and the people bitching about the rebel flag ban. Either way, she should apologize. Her example was the wrong one to use. At least my two examples have nothing to do with NASCAR proper. Which is awesome that NASCAR is doing their duty and trying to squash that kind of crap.

The good thing is, those people are not all that common and at this point have essentially no power, which is why they're ok doing it in the first place.

Historical racism has left a legacy that we still fight today, and should fight. And there are certainly still racists and people with serious prejudice. Luckily, in most instances, those people aren't in any position to actually use that prejudice to severely harm another group of people. We still have the effects of historical racism to continue to correct, sure. But blatant outward racism? Not really.

Using incidents like this to try to show that we do, which is what some people were quick to do, is not good and serves only themselves.

[Lord McBuckethead]

The good thing is, those people are not all that common and at this point have essentially no power, which is why they're ok doing it in the first place.

Historical racism has left a legacy that we still fight today, and should fight. And there are certainly still racists and people with serious prejudice. Luckily, in most instances, those people aren't in any position to actually use that prejudice to severely harm another group of people. We still have the effects of historical racism to continue to correct, sure. But blatant outward racism? Not really.

Using incidents like this to try to show that we do, which is what some people were quick to do, is not good and serves only themselves.

There only power is to get people like Rex all flustered and have to go out of his way to "prove" one incident wasn't actually racist. Good job Rex. No one on this board saw that in the news or on Twitter.

[Lord McBuckethead]

No, I think I know my history of Russia in 1917, Spain in 1936, and China in 1966 to understand where things are and which side you are on, but thanks for playing.

Who controlled the Gulags in Russia? Ahhh 17 it. Why even discuss with this asshole? At least my vote cancels his out. The 30 mexicans I am taking to the polls is where it is at though>>**

[DownwardDawg]

Well, as a semi-fan of the sport and a family member/friend of avid fans of the sport, let me assure you that you need not feel for them... for she was absolutely correct.

Not true. I was a fan for years and had just started watching again. Bubba is one of the drivers I picked to cheer for this year. Here?s the thing though. Her comments did NOT offend me at all. I immediately labeled her as a dubmass racist when I heard her ignorance. I laughed at her. I didn?t pile in the corner and cry or go start burning shit and destroying property. That?s just me though.

[Rex54]

There only power is to get people like Rex all flustered and have to go out of his way to "prove" one incident wasn't actually racist. Good job Rex. No one on this board saw that in the news or on Twitter.
You're the one that finds racism in your cereal and the clouds. The fact is that white racism is almost nonexistent in America. Racism is on full display though with these hoaxes, and they are numerous, against white people to achieve political and monetary goals of the elite by driving division and victimhood mindsets.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Not true. I was a fan for years and had just started watching again. Bubba is one of the drivers I picked to cheer for this year. Here?s the thing though. Her comments did NOT offend me at all. I immediately labeled her as a dubmass racist when I heard her ignorance. I laughed at her. I didn?t pile in the corner and cry or go start burning shit and destroying property. That?s just me though.

That is a pretty good take. And she should be called out for her blanket statements.

[Rex54]

Who controlled the Gulags in Russia? Ahhh 17 it. Why even discuss with this asshole? At least my vote cancels his out. The 30 mexicans I am taking to the polls is where it is at though>>**
For the record I think Trump loses big, and he won't be getting my vote.

[SheltonChoked]

It is my duty to fight back against this blood libel. Europeans are so incredibly anti-racist they've been brainwashed to give away their own nations, history, and culture. This has been done by the capitalists who want your identity not based on your ancestors, nation, and religion but in their products. Spiteful mutants like yourself, called "useful idiots" by the powers that be in the past, are just a pawn in the complete eradication of Western Civilization in favor of a global multicultural strip mall devoid of all that makes us human beings made in the image of God. They found that complete control was so much easier to implement under "liberal capital market Stalinism" rather than governmental control.


In this post you condemn Capitalism, Socialism and Communism....

Which economic structure do you want us to follow? Barter, Subsistence, Serf?

[SheltonChoked]

Rex
What was the goal of this thread?

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[Rex54]

In this post you condemn Capitalism, Socialism and Communism....

Which economic structure do you want us to follow? Barter, Subsistence, Serf?
The economy should serve the people, the people do not exist to serve the economy. I'm highly flexible as to what will be needed at any time to achieve that. The banks and mega corporations have more power and control over culture and society now than any government. They do not have the right to dictate civilization. Huey Long would have made a great President.

[SheltonChoked]

The economy should serve the people, the people do not exist to serve the economy. I'm highly flexible as to what will be needed at any time to achieve that. The banks and mega corporations have more power and control over culture and society now than any government. They do not have the right to dictate civilization. Huey Long would have made a great President.

That's not an economic system. That's pixies and fairy dust.

A complete free market leads to banks and mega corps running everything.
A complete State controlled economy leads to Communism.

You say you hate both.

Economies are either capitalist ( free market) or Socialist ( Command Economy) or like reality, somewhere in between. You have rejected both systems, which leaves nothing...

You hate communism and say Huey Long have made a great president????. Huey Long was so far left he made FDR look like Ronald Reagan. Long was left of Bernie and AOC....


Share Our Wealth was a movement that began in February 1934, during the Great Depression, by Huey Long,

The key planks of the Share Our Wealth platform included:

No person would be allowed to accumulate a personal net worth of more than 300 times the average family fortune.

A graduated capital levy tax would be assessed on all persons with a net worth exceeding $1 million.[1]

Annual incomes would be limited to $1 million and inheritances would be capped at $5.1 million.[1]

Every family was to be furnished with a homestead allowance of not less than one-third the average family wealth of the country.

Every family was to be guaranteed an annual family income of at least $2,000 to $2,500, or not less than one-third of the average annual family income in the United States. Yearly income, however, cannot exceed more than 300 times the size of the average family income.[1]

An old-age pension would be made available for all persons over 60.[1]

To balance agricultural production, the government would preserve/store surplus goods, abolishing the practice of destroying surplus food and other necessities due to lack of purchasing power.[1]

Veterans would be paid a pension and healthcare benefits.[1]

Free education and training for all students to have equal opportunities in all schools, colleges, universities, and other institutions for training in the professions and vocations of life.[1]

The raising of revenue and taxes for the support of this program was to come from the reduction of swollen fortunes from the top, as well as for the support of public works to give employment whenever there may be any slackening necessary in private enterprise.[1]

And you call me a communist....

[BrunswickDawg]

That's not an economic system. That's pixies and fairy dust.

A complete free market leads to banks and mega corps running everything.
A complete State controlled economy leads to Communism.

You say you hate both.

Economies are either capitalist ( free market) or Socialist ( Command Economy) or like reality, somewhere in between. You have rejected both systems, which leaves nothing...

You hate communism and say Huey Long have made a great president????. Huey Long was so far left he made FDR look like Ronald Reagan. Long was left of Bernie and AOC....


Share Our Wealth was a movement that began in February 1934, during the Great Depression, by Huey Long,


And you call me a communist....

You forgot this for Rex.....

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[BeardoMSU]

You forgot this for Rex.....

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[Rex54]

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Sure is easy being a smarmy smug low-t douchebag right now but just remember in totalitarian systems having the system approved opinions doesn't guarantee anything. They'll come after you in an instant, like all those good liberal "Karen's" lately. "Racism" is a weapon to displace white nations and people from their cultures, history, traditions, etc. All to push a global multicultural market, importing the third world and giving them purchasing power.

Demographics don't lie. Interracial violent crime stats don't lie, they'll just start to go unreported once you get your wish and abolish the police. Look at the Rotherham grooming scandal in England where thousands of young girls were groomed and nobody spoke up out of fear of being called racist. Within the last couple weeks in America there have been numerous stories of family members losing jobs because someone else said something deemed "insensitive". We all can see what's happening in our country and the West at large and your smug bullshit changes none of it.

[BeardoMSU]

and your smug bullshit changes none of it.

Ah, I see....but you started a thread to "dunk" on people does, though, lol? Jesus Christ you are insufferable.

[chef dixon]

Rex is correct though in that people similar to him are being slowly phased out. I'm sure it's terrifying.

[BrunswickDawg]

Rex is correct though in that people similar to him are being slowly phased out. I'm sure it's terrifying.

Yep. They'll keep moving his desk to smaller and smaller offices, until he eventually winds up in the basement, in the dark, rambling on about his stapler.

[DownwardDawg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrwsRc31TFc&feature=share

[TUSK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrwsRc31TFc&feature=share

"We have racist laws to help black people get hired..."

That shit was hilarious.... #Troof

[ScoobaDawg]

This has gone on long long enough.