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TaleofTwoDogs
06-03-2020, 04:38 PM
Dallas news outlet reporting that five Oklahoma State football players have tested positive for COVID19. The school has cancelled the arrival of freshmen players that was scheduled for Monday.
Not sure how the NCAA and schools will react to this reality.

Todd4State
06-03-2020, 04:41 PM
They'll probably just quarantine them. Also is it the antibodies that they are positive for or actual COVID?

Ezsoil
06-03-2020, 05:07 PM
I bet this has no impact and certainly won't have on the SEC ... let's look back ...Tulane had 29 players who had the swine Flu in 2009 And that flu actually was deadly for people under 29 years of age ... they still played a full schedule.

Dawgology
06-03-2020, 05:16 PM
Right on cue. As soon as a college athlete tests positive you will have certain news outlets and posters blowing it up. I’m going to let you in on a secret. As college athletes return to college they will ALL get tested (probably for the first time) and some of them will have it. Others will test positive but actually just have the antibodies.

BeardoMSU
06-03-2020, 05:32 PM
Right on cue. As soon as a college athlete tests positive you will have certain news outlets and posters blowing it up.

This isn't a conspiracy, dude. It was, as a matter of fact, the POTUS that recommended the shutdown, which the Guvs followed suit. Don't make it a lib vs con thing. That's lazy.

Todd4State
06-03-2020, 05:56 PM
I bet this has no impact and certainly won't have on the SEC ... let's look back ...Tulane had 29 players who had the swine Flu in 2009 And that flu actually was deadly for people under 29 years of age ... they still played a full schedule.

What I'm thinking too. The media will blow it out of proportion without all of the facts. In the meantime America moves forward.....as will college football.

Remember that these players are just now reporting. They haven't been training together as a team at least.

Todd4State
06-03-2020, 05:57 PM
This isn't a conspiracy, dude. It was, as a matter of fact, the POTUS that recommended the shutdown, which the Guvs followed suit. Don't make it a lib vs con thing. That's lazy.

To me it's the media blowing things out of proportion as they always do.

msbulldog
06-03-2020, 06:20 PM
You would expect some players that have never been tested to come up positive for the corona 19 or the antibodies. I don't think that was made clear as to which. The great thing in these protocols is the testing is the first step, so these folks are isolated immediately. These protocols are going to work. College athletes are going to be the absolute best protected individuals in the country. I wish it could work for everybody! Mississippi had a student athlete and a staff member test positive today.
Hail State and can we all remember our MSU family in our prayers.

BeardoMSU
06-03-2020, 06:24 PM
To me it's the media blowing things out of proportion as they always do.

I don't think the NCAA will cancel football based on media coverage. These decisions come from the top down, or at least one hopes they will.

Todd4State
06-03-2020, 06:44 PM
I don't think the NCAA will cancel football based on media coverage. These decisions come from the top down, or at least one hopes they will.

Absolutely. But this is just the media being the media. I expect most states to be in Phase 3 if not phase 4 by football season.

Dawgology
06-03-2020, 06:57 PM
This isn't a conspiracy, dude. It was, as a matter of fact, the POTUS that recommended the shutdown, which the Guvs followed suit. Don't make it a lib vs con thing. That's lazy.

It’s funny because you jumped right to that. I didn’t say any of the things you assumed. I don’t think it’s a conspiracy I think in this specific situation to which I was referring in my initial post that it is alarmist and some media outlets attempting to get clicks or stay relevant in a limited sports world. I don’t know what POTUS, libs, or con have anything to do with what I posted. You literally added all of that.

oldjoedawg
06-03-2020, 07:07 PM
It has been reported that one of the Ok St players thinks he picked it up at a protest rally in Tulsa....doesn't change anything regarding football season, but there will surely be more cases now.

WeWonItAll(Most)
06-03-2020, 07:42 PM
Players in European soccer have been testing positive in Germany and England and their shows are still going on.

dotcomdawg
06-03-2020, 07:44 PM
These are the first of hundreds of college football players who will test positive over the next few months. It is very very unlikely any of those who test positive will die.

Mississippi is a state of 2.9 million people. There have only been 782 deaths. Only one of those was under 30-years old.

Football season is going to happen.

Lord McBuckethead
06-03-2020, 07:47 PM
The media reports what happens and then postulates what could be the ramifications of such reported items and facts. Just like they always have. But they also expand upon that with their particular opinions beyond the facts and possible ramifications. A terrible reality due to 24 hour news and needing people to stay on the channel.

I remember when CNN used to go through the biggest stories in the world, and after about 90 minutes, just started all the stories from the beginning all over again. Fox news completely changed that dynamic. Now they all have basically abandoned straight news delivery and now go for news then immediate opinions and reactions.

Watch BBC if you can.

Leeshouldveflanked
06-03-2020, 07:49 PM
These are the first of hundreds of college football players who will test positive over the next few months. It is very very unlikely any of those who test positive will die.

Mississippi is a state of 2.9 million people. There have only been 782 deaths. Only one of those was under 30-years old.

Football season is going to happen.
And who knows how many of those deaths falsified the Cause of Death Certificate to have Covid as COD.

Lord McBuckethead
06-03-2020, 07:53 PM
These are the first of hundreds of college football players who will test positive over the next few months. It is very very unlikely any of those who test positive will die.

Mississippi is a state of 2.9 million people. There have only been 782 deaths. Only one of those was under 30-years old.

Football season is going to happen.

Not sure what I think about this sentiment. Football is not a required activity for all of us living our lives. It is not essential. If I had control of such things, not sure I would allow games to be played unless the players are clearly not infected and or contagious. There is not a single player in the SEC, I would want at risk to this thing based on something we control like games and practice.

If they are unfortunate to get it randomly around town, well that really cannot be controlled beyond social distancing and common sense personal safety.

I still believe games will be played, but I am not sure I am on board with 100k going to the games. Just too much risk. I do understand each person has the opportunity to make that choice for themselves. People just do not have the control over the issue that makes personal choice not cut and dry. Anyone's choice on this right now has direct impact on others, that may not have that choice.

Lord McBuckethead
06-03-2020, 07:59 PM
And who knows how many of those deaths falsified the Cause of Death Certificate to have Covid as COD.

Probably none. Don't downplay the risk. It is clear due to asymptomatic people, the death rate isn't as high as shown, but let's not peddle in BS on the death numbers. Even in areas overwhelmed by the number of folks that were positive, the symptoms and the pathway to death has been well known by healthcare workers.

coachnorm
06-03-2020, 08:40 PM
I am not posting one way or the other about this upcoming season because I just can not come to a determinate conclusion. One thing I would like to express to fellow elitedoggers is the difference between physically opening campuses for education and physically opening campuses for a sports event. Most of what I have received is campuses partially physically opening then about 80% distance learning on the internet. I suspect that the bait and switch of public statements of opening campuses then read the fine print of 80% Distance Learning? Something else that I would like to share with fellow elitedoggers is, faculty members of colleges are fearful of the silent spreaders that can be life threatening. Athletic coaches are fearful also of the silent spreaders. I understand that the young are faring ok so far but there are at risk employees in schools through out America. I just do not know how this is going to play out.

TaleofTwoDogs
06-03-2020, 10:51 PM
Right on cue. As soon as a college athlete tests positive you will have certain news outlets and posters blowing it up. I’m going to let you in on a secret. As college athletes return to college they will ALL get tested (probably for the first time) and some of them will have it. Others will test positive but actually just have the antibodies.

Just reporting the facts, bud. No agenda, just keeping ED aware of developing stories.

Jack Lambert
06-03-2020, 10:56 PM
These are the first of hundreds of college football players who will test positive over the next few months. It is very very unlikely any of those who test positive will die.

Mississippi is a state of 2.9 million people. There have only been 782 deaths. Only one of those was under 30-years old.

Football season is going to happen.

I would imagine a high percentage of football players have already contracted the virus and moved past it.

HoopsDawg
06-03-2020, 11:34 PM
And who knows how many of those deaths falsified the Cause of Death Certificate to have Covid as COD.

That's a dangerous narrative. Don't spread fake news. There's enough of that already.

dantheman4248
06-03-2020, 11:54 PM
That's a dangerous narrative. Don't spread fake news. There's enough of that already.

Good luck stopping that talking point by people who have homes separated in terms of mileage rather than feet. It's hard to fully grasp that it's even real when it's not affecting your bubble and your only access to outside media are pandering to that echo chamber you live in.

Mobile Bay
06-04-2020, 10:07 AM
I saw an article in The Telegraph the other day that said this. A British researcher went through a large number of their death cases and concluded that anywhere from 1/3 to 2/3 of the deaths there were in people whos comorbidities were so bad they were unlikely to survive this year anyway. I doubt many players fall into that category.

BiscuitEater
06-04-2020, 10:24 AM
This isn't a conspiracy, dude. It was, as a matter of fact, the POTUS that recommended the shutdown, which the Guvs followed suit. Don't make it a lib vs con thing. That's lazy.

Guess you just completely stopped paying attention when the media accused both the Florida and Georgia Governors of mass murder when they opened their states.

Please at least do some modicum of research into states that are open and those closed before posting idiotic statements.

BiscuitEater
06-04-2020, 10:35 AM
Probably none. Don't downplay the risk. It is clear due to asymptomatic people, the death rate isn't as high as shown, but let's not peddle in BS on the death numbers. Even in areas overwhelmed by the number of folks that were positive, the symptoms and the pathway to death has been well known by healthcare workers.

Guess you missed this quote from Brix .. Last week, The Washington Post reported that at a recent discussion on COVID-19 data, Birx told CDC Director Robert Redfield that ?there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust.?

According to the paper, Birx and others feared the CDC was inflating coronavirus statistics, like mortality rates and case numbers, by up to 25 percent.

Simple math here but that would be over 25,000 deaths miscounted which is more than the "probably none" you stated.

WeWonItAll(Most)
06-04-2020, 11:19 AM
I saw an article in The Telegraph the other day that said this. A British researcher went through a large number of their death cases and concluded that anywhere from 1/3 to 2/3 of the deaths there were in people whos comorbidities were so bad they were unlikely to survive this year anyway. I doubt many players fall into that category.

The Imperial model that was being used as the gold standard model back at the beginning of this projected something similar when they made their initial adjustment from millions of deaths to a few hundred thousand.

BeardoMSU
06-04-2020, 11:36 AM
Guess you just completely stopped paying attention when the media accused both the Florida and Georgia Governors of mass murder when they opened their states.

Please at least do some modicum of research into states that are open and those closed before posting idiotic statements.

Just the "media"? How bout the POTUS throwing Kemp under the bus? But yeah, it's me that's not paying attention, lol.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/22/trump-kemp-georgia-reopen-coronavirus-202117

BiscuitEater
06-04-2020, 02:02 PM
Just the "media"? How bout the POTUS throwing Kemp under the bus? But yeah, it's me that's not paying attention, lol.

The media is just one example, Trump was being 'political' too! Guess YOU forgot that you said .. "Don't make it a lib vs con thing."

Sorry, but it IS political. You can't just 'wish' it wasn't!

Vandownbytheriver
06-04-2020, 04:46 PM
Just saw Bama had 5 players test positive as well.

Extendedcab
06-04-2020, 04:53 PM
Just saw Bama had 5 players test positive as well.

I heard OM had a couple of players/admin test positive yesterday also.

BeardoMSU
06-04-2020, 05:15 PM
I heard OM had a couple of players/admin test positive yesterday also.

They did.

MaroonFlounder
06-04-2020, 05:51 PM
Looks like Gun has the safety on. No response from him. He only floods the forum on his own terms....

BeardoMSU
06-04-2020, 06:04 PM
Looks like Gun has the safety on. No response from him. He only floods the forum on his own terms....

These are his home school hours. He's currently learning the intricacies between their, there, and they're.***

Liverpooldawg
06-04-2020, 06:09 PM
There may be college football, but there may not be. The fact is nobody at this point knows.

dotcomdawg
06-04-2020, 09:48 PM
I still believe games will be played, but I am not sure I am on board with 100k going to the games. .

Never said anything about attendance