DeviousDawg's vision for Davis Wade Stadium's South EZ expansion/hotel...

[DeviousDawg]

First and foremost, I am by no means a photo shop wizard, but I believe I have done a good enough job to convey my vision.

Original rendering of South EZ hotel
https://i.ibb.co/zmDx37n/HDWS-INSIDE.png (https://ibb.co/qDVjHWy)

Devious Dawg's rendering of South EZ hotel
https://i.ibb.co/TgXQzkT/hotel1.jpg (https://ibb.co/S3TkqPx)



***Added 5/10/20***
https://i.ibb.co/LC7GxFB/nope.jpg



Obviously, I am only focused on the field side of the hotel in this post, but I also have some ideas for The Junction facing side of the hotel, which I will discuss later. Anyway, it looks a lot better than the original, imo. Here are the main differences between the original rendering and my vision:

1. The hotel is fully attached to the East and West sides of DWS. This is the biggest thing to me, it has to bowl in the stadium. It should look more like a stadium than a hotel, and I think this achieves that. I couldn't create a perfect and fluid connection between the East/west sides and the hotel bottom floor, but you can use your imagination, it should be seamless.

2. Instead of just common areas to congregate/watch the game, it should offer Hotel rooms with balconies that overlook the stadium. In my design, there are 32 private balconies overlooking the field. These are the high dollar hotel rooms, and the larger ones, with most of them being suites. The balconies create an atmosphere similar to the Left Field Lofts. I think it would be stupid to not have balconies, no one wants to watch a game behind a single hotel room window. The balconies are essential, and add to the overall atmosphere of the stadium.

3. I added a "Scoreboard Club" atop the Hotel, it is larger than the North EZ scoreboard club, with a capacity of ~2,500 chairback seats. This give the stadium a bit of symmetry, with scoreboard clubs and their Jumbotrons facing one another. I envision ~500 rooms(seems like a lot but it would fill every football weekend, and would be great for recruiting trips), with only 32 facing the field, that means that the large majority of hotel rooms are smaller(typical hotel room), and facing the junction or looking east and west(the structure is a large rectangle, although slightly curved on the field facing side). So since the large majority of stadiums don't have a balcony with field view access, these hotel rooms and their residents will sit in the Scoreboard club chairbacks. Each room has 5-10 permanent tickets/seats. Your seats depends on which room you get(each room has permanent reserved seats in the Scoreboard club). Also, 1/3 to 1/2 of the seats would be sold just as Scoreboard Club tickets, so not everyone in the chairbacks above the hotel is staying in the hotel. Because there are so many rooms, and it is premium/club seating, most of the rooms are sold as a premium seating package(you don't want a bunch of guys staying in the hotel that are using their season tickets elsewhere in the stadium, otherwise the chairbacks above the hotel wouldn't fill). So 50%-75% of the rooms are sold as season tickets, you reserve the room for the season, and their corresponding seats. Think of these rooms as the Left Field Loft rooms, you essentially lease it for the entire season, maybe even do it in 5 year deals like the Left Field Lofts. The remaining rooms are sold on a game to game basis.


The Junction facing rooms should all be single rooms with small balconies(think of a typical beach front hotel/condo) with grills. This would really add to the atmosphere of the Junction, and create an atmosphere unique to Mississippi State, with balconies overlooking the Junction with a Dudy Noble like wall of smoke during tailgating hours, creating a truly unique College Football tailgating experience.

The Bottom Floor should be open to the Junction, with a shite ton of permanent bathrooms, along with gift shops(think Barnes & Noble) and Tailgating shops(selling the essentials), and an open view to the field from the Junction.

The bottom floor facing the field is another Gridiron Club.

So the hotel side rooms + the rooftop Scoreboard club would add another ~3,000 seats to the stadiums capacity, bringing us up to ~64,000, which I think is too much. I think we should be at 60,000 tops. So how do we achieve this? Easy, install chairbacks through the entirety of the stadium, making MSU the only SEC school with an all chairback stadium. This would reduce the stadiums capacity by about 5,000-7,500. So you add 3,000 and subtract another 6,000 or so, so this would bring the total capacity down to ~58,000, which I think is perfect. This would make our stadium a destination, and the most unique stadium in College Football. We bowl it in, while bringing the capacity down to where it should be and also adding a one of a kind Stadium Hotel.

This is by no means the perfect design, but I think it is on the right track. Our Athletic Department had the right idea with the hotel, and shouldn't shy away from the idea. Everyone liked the idea, just hated the rendering. I think this is more like what the fan base was hoping for.

[Turfdawg67]

You need to send that to Cohen, stat! Man, that would be beautiful!

[ShotgunDawg]

Great job DD.

Really like what you've done here. The only change I'd make is moving your scoreboard club to the bottom. I just don't think those seats at the top are sellable.

[QuadrupleOption]

I like your version a lot better. I'm assuming the official renderings are based on what we want to spend as yours would be a lot more expensive.

The only thing I'd change would be to curve it at the ends so that it meshes a little better with the stadium. But I'd go with yours over the official one for sure.

[nsvltndog]

A true big picture long term vision would attach a 7000 seat Coliseum to the back of it where the Junction currently exists rather than renovating the Hump. Knock down Dorman and relocate the Junction to where Dorman currently stands. Hump could be left as is for now, but no more money spent on it.

[ShotgunDawg]

A true big picture long term vision would attach a 7000 seat Coliseum to the back of it where the Junction currently exists rather than renovating the Hump. Knock down Dorman and relocate the Junction to where Dorman currently stands. Hump could be left as is for now, but no more money spent on it.

Huh?

Destroying the Junction would be about the dumbest possible thing we could ever do.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Great job DD.

Really like what you've done here. The only change I'd make is moving your scoreboard club to the bottom. I just don't think those seats at the top are sellable.

If they don't sell at the bottom, it would be visible on TV. Why take the risk?

I love DD's version, but I would just do away with the seats all together.

[ShotgunDawg]

If they don't sell at the bottom, it would be visible on TV. Why take the risk?

I love DD's version, but I would just do away with the seats all together.

We need seats in the endzone IMO. For sound, atmosphere, & TV perception purposes, it's important.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I would put the hotels on each side as the connector to the existing stadium. With it sitting on the mid-level, I would have it connected through to the junction side of the building as a party deck that could be used by the hotel guest before, during, and after the game. Between the two hotel sides, I would put a seating area similar to the seating that the Seahawks have in their endzone, leaving a gap on each side between the seating and hotels for the connection between the field party deck and the junction party deck. I would also design in a gigantic cowbell (clock tower) style thing that could be rung by big time supporters of the program or recruits when we score. Make it prominent, dead center at the plaza level. On the backside of the seating areas, I would have concessions and different tailgating spots set up on different levels. turn the backside into what the lofts are looking at dudy noble field.

I bet all of that could be done for 30-35 million and it incorporates interactions for tailgating with the junction. Hell you could have a giant staircase leading directly into the junction with a large archway the players could walk through to get to the field. It sets our stadium up with a cool visual with the giant cowbell that will be equal to "the Swamp" logo at UF.

[KOdawg1]

Someone send this to Cohen. Like seriously, this is way better than the original rendering.

I think all of us are in agreement that the end zone needs to be fully bowled in. The hotel concept is cool, but only if you do it right. DeviousDawg just did it right.

[gtowndawg]

I know something that big would be a massive amount of money (probably not feasible). However, one thing we don't know is how much would the hotel developer be on the hook for? I assume it would be a hotel franchise of some kind (Hilton, Marriott, etc) and not a University operated hotel?

[Pinto]

Where would you put the locker room?

I like the idea. I also think it would be good to have the second floor as an M club floor with a full length balcony/sitting area. Kind of like at red bird park.

[TheLostDawg]

Expensive but it would also bring in a massive amount of money. Good job. Thanks for taking the time to design that and explain.

[NWADAWG]

I like the idea of moving the stadium seating to the bottom and making part of all of the top a patio somewhat matching the one on the other end.

[MedDawg]

I like it! If we leased the balcony suites for a year with a 5- or 10-year commitment like the Left Field Lofts, they'd sell out at an even higher price than the lofts. Might cut into the loft leases a bit, but overall the school would make more money and give more options for lessees.

It would be cool if there was a way to have the suites look out over both the field and The Junction, but your idea of having a lot of single rooms facing The Junction is better. If the single rooms were regular hotel rooms outside of football season they would be the room of choice in the Starkville area.

I'm conflicted whether to have the seating above or below the hotel. Above would match the Scoreboard Club in the opposite endzone AND give a better view of the game (fans can see better from higher endzone seats than lower). But having the seats below and running all the way across would give the stadium a more bowled-in look and look more homogenous with the rest of the stadium, even if it's a smaller lower level. Lots of big stadiums have or had one endzone with fewer rows (Texas, Auburn).

IF we were to chairback the entire stadium that would work and still have the ability to expand the Scoreboard Cub and add seats above the hotel (or do it along with the new construction). I'm for putting chairbacks in the entire lower level and maybe the upper levels too. However, I wonder if we will ever chairback the entire stadium or even just the lower level? Would that cut into our club leases? Many may currently get club seats more for the chairback than the lounge and food. I wonder what UNC has seen since they chairbacked the whole stadium.

[PMDawg]

Great job DD.

I just don't think those seats at the top are sellable.

Nor are they realistic from an engineering, operations, and maintenance standpoint.

[Turfdawg67]

I know something that big would be a massive amount of money (probably not feasible). However, one thing we don't know is how much would the hotel developer be on the hook for? I assume it would be a hotel franchise of some kind (Hilton, Marriott, etc) and not a University operated hotel?

If it were University run, we could leave maroon backpacks full of $$$ for our recruits, a la our friends up north.***

[nsvltndog]

Huh?

Destroying the Junction would be about the dumbest possible thing we could ever do.

Junction just gets relocated. If we follow your terminology then it gets "destroyed" and rebuilt. In the process Dorman is gone and we get a new arena for hoops that has proper seating capacity for us rather than a remodeled Hump. I envision the arena as shaped more like a rectangle than a circle like the Hump in order to minimize its physical footprint. If the hotel idea sticks then you also have an on campus hotel in between new football end zone and arena, all architecturally connected. Hotel could even be vertical above the arena as another option.

We are a world class Land Grant school with a turf grass/landscape architecture program along with renowned architecture alums that could create a new Junction and modernize a lot of things in the process. We didnt have a Junction for most of MSU's history. These groups had the vision to design and build it for us and could do so again. How else do you get rid of Dorman? We may lose some of the Junction anyway when we do a big project in that endzone. I'm not naive enough to expect this to happen but if we had the funds i think it would be a great plan for that entire area.

[trojandawg]

like everyone elese. that look pretty good except i would move the seating part to the bottom to go with the other seats. maybe club tier platforms in the corners similar to what Texas is doing.

[DeviousDawg]

If it were University run, we could leave maroon backpacks full of $$$ for our recruits, a la our friends up north.***

Don?t bring that sarcasm up inn here, it?s a great business model. All joking aside, it would be a huge plus for recruiting visit weekends, recruits would love staying in the field facing suites with their families for official visit weekends. I would hope that we wouldn?t sell out and it would be university run, we could handle it.

[tireddawg]

Maybe you get a room for each home game for life if they use your rendering.

[Maroonthirteen]

Cool drawing. Great idea.

However I can't believe this would even be considered In our lifetime. The fact we couldn't fill up the place in 2017 says a lot about demand at DWS.

[gtowndawg]

If it were University run, we could leave maroon backpacks full of $$$ for our recruits, a la our friends up north.***

True, true...

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Patel Stadium at Davis Wade!

[RocketDawg]

Great job DD.

Really like what you've done here. The only change I'd make is moving your scoreboard club to the bottom. I just don't think those seats at the top are sellable.

I like your new concept much better than the original since it ties in to the stadium (at least visually), but shouldn't the hotel be curved on the same arc as the north endzone expansion? The rooms might be a little strange shaped, but I've been in hotels that were literally round - a cylinder.

[Gypsy_RoadDawg]

Love it great job!!!

[DeviousDawg]

I like your new concept much better than the original since it ties in to the stadium (at least visually), but shouldn't the hotel be curved on the same arc as the north endzone expansion? The rooms might be a little strange shaped, but I've been in hotels that were literally round - a cylinder.

Yes it should, but like I said, first and foremost, I am no photoshop wizard. A photoshop wiz could touch this up and make it look legit.

[R2Dawg]

I like it because it adds a little character. The plain bowl is just boring and everyone has done it; it is nothing special. Our north endzone isn't typical but is really nice which I like.

[Bothrops]

Patel Stadium at Davis Wade!

Yeah...I could see that!

[crackerjax]

I would put the hotels on each side as the connector to the existing stadium. With it sitting on the mid-level, I would have it connected through to the junction side of the building as a party deck that could be used by the hotel guest before, during, and after the game. Between the two hotel sides, I would put a seating area similar to the seating that the Seahawks have in their endzone, leaving a gap on each side between the seating and hotels for the connection between the field party deck and the junction party deck. I would also design in a gigantic cowbell (clock tower) style thing that could be rung by big time supporters of the program or recruits when we score. Make it prominent, dead center at the plaza level. On the backside of the seating areas, I would have concessions and different tailgating spots set up on different levels. turn the backside into what the lofts are looking at dudy noble field.

I bet all of that could be done for 30-35 million and it incorporates interactions for tailgating with the junction. Hell you could have a giant staircase leading directly into the junction with a large archway the players could walk through to get to the field. It sets our stadium up with a cool visual with the giant cowbell that will be equal to "the Swamp" logo at UF.

I really like these suggestions.

[Turfdawg67]

Don?t bring that sarcasm up inn here, it?s a great business model. All joking aside, it would be a huge plus for recruiting visit weekends, recruits would love staying in the field facing suites with their families for official visit weekends. I would hope that we wouldn?t sell out and it would be university run, we could handle it.

I see what you did there... nice!

[NWADAWG]

Cool drawing. Great idea.

However I can't believe this would even be considered In our lifetime. The fact we couldn't fill up the place in 2017 says a lot about demand at DWS.

Add lower level seating, roof top patio.... and then make the whole stadium chairback. Seating numbers would probably be a wash and would be a huge upgrade for all fans attending.

[gtowndawg]

Not to pop anyone's bubble but according to Steve the hotel idea has been scrapped. Not going to happen.

[Bothrops]

Just as long as they build that giant pirate parrot overlooking the field, who's eyes change color and screams out to bogus referee calls "**** you asshole" "**** YOU BITCH!!!" in a high tone to the offending referees. During Bama games the eyes glow red, even before kick off.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I really like these suggestions.

Well, i do think about stuff like this often.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Where would you put the locker room?

I like the idea. I also think it would be good to have the second floor as an M club floor with a full length balcony/sitting area. Kind of like at red bird park.

Below the plaza level. No windows out. Concrete everything.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Not to pop anyone's bubble but according to Steve the hotel idea has been scrapped. Not going to happen.

Good, cause it looked cheap as 17.

[DeviousDawg]

Unforturnately I put this together just before Steve said the idea's dead. Thought it ended up pretty good.

https://i.ibb.co/LC7GxFB/nope.jpg (https://ibb.co/tbrdqGn)

[ShotgunDawg]

Unforturnately I put this together just before Steve said the idea's dead. Thought it ended up pretty good.

https://i.ibb.co/LC7GxFB/nope.jpg (https://ibb.co/tbrdqGn)

Yes, yes, yes. That's a loud awesome stadium right there

Brutal that the idea is dead. Seems like we just don't want to have a great stadium.

Last ones to have alcohol
Last ones to announce the school plans to play football in the Fall
Last ones to bowl in the stadium

Always last. Hopefully when the COVID thingy passes & Leach gets the energy going again, someone will step up & make this happen

[Bothrops]

Yes, yes, yes. That's a loud awesome stadium right there

Brutal that the idea is dead. Seems like we just don't want to have a great stadium.

Last ones to have alcohol
Last ones to announce the school plans to play football in the Fall
Last ones to bowl in the stadium

Always last. Hopefully when the COVID thingy passes & Leach gets the energy going again, someone will step up & make this happen

Not selling alcohol will most likely be reversed. With all the money that's been lost already, I can't imagine them not taking advantage of this now.

[Todd4State]

So I guess they will be building something like another version of the scoreboard lounge with a seating area above it for the M-Club people.

Not a completely terrible idea. One thing it would definitely help with us getting into the stadium because a large open walking area like that would be a massive and logical front entrance to enter. It would also help if they didn't strip search every fan trying to enter too.

[TheLostDawg]

Unforturnately I put this together just before Steve said the idea's dead. Thought it ended up pretty good.

https://i.ibb.co/LC7GxFB/nope.jpg (https://ibb.co/tbrdqGn)

I love it

[Turfdawg67]

Yes, yes, yes. That's a loud awesome stadium right there

Brutal that the idea is dead. Seems like we just don't want to have a great stadium.

Last ones to have alcohol
Last ones to announce the school plans to play football in the Fall
Last ones to bowl in the stadium

Always last. Hopefully when the COVID thingy passes & Leach gets the energy going again, someone will step up & make this happen

You forgot to mention McKinnley Jackson. ***

[TheLostDawg]

Not doing the hotel just shows how poor our leadership is. There is obviously a need and having the lofts has shown they'll sell. We have a university full of students that could work and get experience to put on their resume. If we're that scared just copy exactly what LSU has done. It's a long way off no matter how you look at it. Saying now that it's out of the picture just shows how much of a change is needed at the top. I know that I hate on Strickland a good bit of the time but I would put money on it that he'd have found a way to make it work.

[TheLostDawg]

And as someone mentioned we could just get a hotel brand to run it if we didn't want to. Could you imagine the bidding war they would get in to in order to have a hotel that is a part of a SEC football teams field? If we did it ourselves, this would be the time to reach out to our NFL alumni to donate. LSU had the "shack suit" in theirs. Hopefully there people at the top will start getting pressured to do this.
I'm still just amazed at how well the lofts have turned out and they don't want to do something like this. Maybe it was because not enough people liked the design and they took it as they didn't like the concept and trashed the whole idea instead of redesigning it. It seems everyone thinks wherever is done on the south should connect to both the east and west side. I think that was the biggest reason the design they put out was so unpopular.

[BrunswickDawg]

And as someone mentioned we could just get a hotel brand to run it if we didn't want to. Could you imagine the bidding war they would get in to in order to have a hotel that is a part of a SEC football teams field? If we did it ourselves, this would be the time to reach out to our NFL alumni to donate. LSU had the "shack suit" in theirs. Hopefully there people at the top will start getting pressured to do this.
I'm still just amazed at how well the lofts have turned out and they don't want to do something like this. Maybe it was because not enough people liked the design and they took it as they didn't like the concept and trashed the whole idea instead of redesigning it. It seems everyone thinks wherever is done on the south should connect to both the east and west side. I think that was the biggest reason the design they put out was so unpopular.

I wonder if it was an MSU decision or an IHL feedback decision. Y'all know we can't do projects like this without IHL blessing, and I can see a project like this ruffling OM aligned feathers. The Dude and the North Endzone expansion have put our facilities so far past OM that I could totally see them working to stop something like this.

[TheLostDawg]

I wonder if it was an MSU decision or an IHL feedback decision. Y'all know we can't do projects like this without IHL blessing, and I can see a project like this ruffling OM aligned feathers. The Dude and the North Endzone expansion have put our facilities so far past OM that I could totally see them working to stop something like this.

If so we need to make sure Leach is aware and tell him to give Twitter ****

[Todd4State]

Not doing the hotel just shows how poor our leadership is. There is obviously a need and having the lofts has shown they'll sell. We have a university full of students that could work and get experience to put on their resume. If we're that scared just copy exactly what LSU has done. It's a long way off no matter how you look at it. Saying now that it's out of the picture just shows how much of a change is needed at the top. I know that I hate on Strickland a good bit of the time but I would put money on it that he'd have found a way to make it work.

The thing about having a hotel chain like Marriott or Hilton run it is MSU would have to outsource it some I'm sure which would mean fewer profits for MSU. I know that LT didn't want to do the Junction because he thought that MSU wouldn't get all the profits from it.

I'll say this- I do want to see what their other plans are before I criticize anything. The issue here is I don't think our attendance is going to grow just a ton and at the same time we do need to enclose the stadium.

[DeviousDawg]

The thing about having a hotel chain like Marriott or Hilton run it is MSU would have to outsource it some I'm sure which would mean fewer profits for MSU. I know that LT didn't want to do the Junction because he thought that MSU wouldn't get all the profits from it.

I'll say this- I do want to see what their other plans are before I criticize anything. The issue here is I don't think our attendance is going to grow just a ton and at the same time we do need to enclose the stadium.

This is why you drop $6,000,000(give or take a couple mil) on installing chair backs throughout the entire stadium, which would bring our current stadiums capacity down to ~54,000. This allows you to expand/bowl-in the stadium, without actually expanding the capacity, and most likely, decreasing the capacity(which I believe is necessary with today’s changing college football landscape, where you are seeing steady decreases in attendance across the country) while also improving the aesthetics, perception and comfortability of the entire stadium.

Imo, step #1 is chairbacking the entire stadium, regardless of what the plan is for the South EZ. You will start seeing this happen across college football, we might as well be trend setters.

[BHildreth3]

I don't have the time to do graphic design and I will b/c that's my profession, but here's my idea....

to the left of the endzone area, we create a really nice grand entrance from the Junction - trees on both sides of the walkway....in the middle and to the right we create an amazing glass wall type structure with our football logo at the top and it would be something honoring our quote "tradition" lol - whatever it is just make it a nice entrance into an area that honors football.....you walk to the top of the building, from both sides, to a huge balcony which would overlook the the Junction - a huge premium area to tailgate and look down to the DawgWalk.

Have a restaurant at the top and then that would on the field side, open up to seating on the goal line, and then then premium seating at the top. Think Tampa Bay stadium endzone area. Something like that. We don't have to do a hotel, but we need something unique where TV remotes could be overlooking College GameDay set that was in the Junction. If you could get in there, eat, drink and overlook the crazyiness, I think it would be a good idea.

Again having a really neat landscaping entrance like the Dude, would be cool and it would look good on TV in my opinion.

[Todd4State]

This is why you drop $6,000,000(give or take a couple mil) on installing chair backs throughout the entire stadium, which would bring our current stadiums capacity down to ~54,000. This allows you to expand/bowl-in the stadium, without actually expanding the capacity, and most likely, decreasing the capacity(which I believe is necessary with today’s changing college football landscape, where you are seeing steady decreases in attendance across the country) while also improving the aesthetics, perception and comfortability of the entire stadium.

Imo, step #1 is chairbacking the entire stadium, regardless of what the plan is for the South EZ. You will start seeing this happen across college football, we might as well be trend setters.

That is a really good idea. We could then build an 8-9K seating area in the South end zone with some kind of suites above dedicated to the M-Club members for them to use.

[Todd4State]

I don't have the time to do graphic design and I will b/c that's my profession, but here's my idea....

to the left of the endzone area, we create a really nice grand entrance from the Junction - trees on both sides of the walkway....in the middle and to the right we create an amazing glass wall type structure with our football logo at the top and it would be something honoring our quote "tradition" lol - whatever it is just make it a nice entrance into an area that honors football.....you walk to the top of the building, from both sides, to a huge balcony which would overlook the the Junction - a huge premium area to tailgate and look down to the DawgWalk.

Have a restaurant at the top and then that would on the field side, open up to seating on the goal line, and then then premium seating at the top. Think Tampa Bay stadium endzone area. Something like that. We don't have to do a hotel, but we need something unique where TV remotes could be overlooking College GameDay set that was in the Junction. If you could get in there, eat, drink and overlook the crazyiness, I think it would be a good idea.

Again having a really neat landscaping entrance like the Dude, would be cool and it would look good on TV in my opinion.

I think that's a good idea too- but I do wonder what we could put there that would look and make sense. Tampa Bay and the pirate ships make sense. I don't know that a giant doghouse or houses surrounded by giant cowbells would look that great really? I can't really think of anything theme wise that would make sense.

Maybe something that honored our past greats that are in the Ring of Honor? I think it would be nice if we had some type of memorial dedicated to MSU players that passed away while they were on the football team too- for Rodney Stowers, Keefer, Earnest Garner, Nick Bell, and Keith Joseph, Jr.

[Pinto]

I think you chairback everything starting on the lower west side and then lower east side. Upper East then upper west.

I like the idea of the hotel and putting a rooftop club on it similar to the lounge loft rooftop area. Mix of a standing room only and lounge, maybe making it a double or triple treat thing. One ticket let?s you into scoreboard club gridiron club and or rooftop club.

[TheLostDawg]

Yes #1 chairbacks the stadium. #2 build the lofts that connect the east and west side with chairbacks below and use the top like the lofts are used now plus whatever. (it would be one big loft like the picture above)
I agree, first we need to chairback the stadium but we are never first at anything. More like last to do anything that's a good idea

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Yes, yes, yes. That's a loud awesome stadium right there

Brutal that the idea is dead. Seems like we just don't want to have a great stadium.

Last ones to have alcohol
Last ones to announce the school plans to play football in the Fall
Last ones to bowl in the stadium

Always last. Hopefully when the COVID thingy passes & Leach gets the energy going again, someone will step up & make this happen
Cohen cant even execute a smooth MSU Gameday.,.. what do you expect

[Bothrops]

I'd almost rather us do nothing about the south EZ than have our people feel pressured to make an underwhelming decision.

[TheLostDawg]

I'd almost rather us do nothing about the south EZ than have our people feel pressured to make an underwhelming decision.

I second this

[Choctaw Dawg]

I think its has already been looked at with chairbacking the entire lower end of the stadium and has been decided as not being feasible and very costly.... I think it has to do with the way the lower bowl was built and its age it would take a complete overhaul to the lower bowl.

[Pinto]

I think its has already been looked at with chairbacking the entire lower end of the stadium and has been decided as not being feasible and very costly.... I think it has to do with the way the lower bowl was built and its age it would take a complete overhaul to the lower bowl.

If only we knew of an engineering school somewhere that could work on this problem. Also, Kentucky did their whole stadium. They just did a few sections at a time. We can and should use the same approach to get this done, but that would take vision and planning so that idea is out the window.

[trojandawg]

Hey TAMU redid an entire side of the stadium in one off season. I know they got way more money than we do but our stadium rehab would be much smaller scale.