NFL Draft Discussion Thread....

[ShotgunDawg]

Lord it feels good to actually discuss sports again. Let's go!!

[ShotgunDawg]

Goodell has a fake house

[msstate7]

Dianna Russini says look for OL, CB or RB for Saints in Rd 1.

This would be sorta shocking to me if we don't go LB or WR

[StarkVegasSteve]

This draft will really start at 3. I believe we could see trades at 3 and 4. And if Tua starts to drop, watch out for Bill and the Patriots to make a move.

[msstate7]

Fauci on the draft? Get this sheet outta here

[StarkVegasSteve]

Dianna Russini says look for OL, CB or RB for Saints in Rd 1.

This would be sorta shocking to me if we don't go LB or WR

With all the talent coming into the division, I really feel like the Saints need a WR. Someone to put opposite Mike Thomas. I'd prefer Emmanuel Sanders to play the slot.

[ShotgunDawg]

Fauci on the draft? Get this sheet outta here

Gotta get all the PC BS out of the way

[ShotgunDawg]

This draft will really start at 3. I believe we could see trades at 3 and 4. And if Tua starts to drop, watch out for Bill and the Patriots to make a move.

Tua ain't gonna be good. I don't think the Pats would take him

[ShotgunDawg]

10 min for the 1st pick is assanine

[ShotgunDawg]

Joe Burrow

[ShotgunDawg]

Wingo just threw Scott Frost under a train. Sheesh

[ShotgunDawg]

Chase Young

[ShotgunDawg]

Chase Young looked like he had an Eroll Thompson gut

[msstate7]

Washington is gonna hit QBs this year. Sweat and young will be hell

[msstate7]

Ohio st players seem to always work out

[Turfdawg67]

Tua ain't gonna be good. I don't think the Pats would take him

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[Todd4State]

Mississippi State player getting mentioned a lot- Sweat, Slay, Dak, Joe Judge... it's amazing how our profile has increased the past ten years.

[msstate7]

Why is the guy wearing a mask by himself? Are there cameramen in the houses?

[ShotgunDawg]

Tua's family has a pretty nice house.....

[Irondawg]

Well no team in the top 4 made a move and stuck with their picks so a bit boring - Miami was best hope to shake up the draft but they couldn't pull it off.

Not sure about taking Tua at 5 but it's risk/reward

[parabrave]

Tua's family has a pretty nice house.....

Gonna have a nicer one in Coral Gables.

[Todd4State]

LOL Dolphins.

[msstate7]

I can't wait to watch tua play. I have no idea how good or bad he will be

[ShotgunDawg]

I can't wait to watch tua play. I have no idea how good or bad he will be

Evaluating Alabama QB is tough because they literally throw to 1st round WRs almost exclusively.

[msstate7]

Evaluating Alabama QB is tough because they literally throw to 1st round WRs almost exclusively.

You could say the same thing about burrow too

[msstate7]

I wish the saints could trade up for Simmons or jeudy

[Irondawg]

Herbert is a guy I just don't think is going to pan out for some reason.

[R2Dawg]

Mississippi State player getting mentioned a lot- Sweat, Slay, Dak, Joe Judge... it's amazing how our profile has increased the past ten years.

So true, we are a national brand now (I didn't say a national contender). Everyone knows who Mississippi State is now.

[TheLostDawg]

Tua's family has a pretty nice house.....

I'm sure they upgraded when the parents "found a better paying job" in t town

[Irondawg]

I still hate that Derrick Brown didn’t end up at MSU since his parents were grads

[ShotgunDawg]

I still hate that Derrick Brown didn’t end up at MSU since his parents were grads

I never got that. We can't miss on those types of kids

[msstate7]

Crap. I really wanted Simmons in Nola

[ShotgunDawg]

Simmons' family appears wealthy

[msstate7]

Maybe ruggs falls to saints in 1st (doubtful), and gay is there for them in 3rd

[parabrave]

Please sweet 10lb in the manger baby Jesus let Jeudy fall to the Saints or Cowboys/

[msstate7]

Please sweet 10lb in the manger baby Jesus let Jeudy fall to the Saints or Cowboys/

Not a chance. Gonna have to move up to get him

[parabrave]

I can't wait to watch tua play. I have no idea how good or bad he will be

Go watch replays of Troy Aikmans 1st Year or any Year Archie played for the Saints.

[TheLostDawg]

I still hate that Derrick Brown didn’t end up at MSU since his parents were grads

Should have ponied up some money like Auburn does

[ShotgunDawg]

Should have ponied up some money like Auburn does

This is what frustrates me. If there is any out of state kid that you can do that for, it's a legacy. But us? No. We just can't get it done.

[Todd4State]

Should have ponied up some money like Auburn does

It helps if our head coach would have you know....tried to recruit him.

[TheLostDawg]

This is what frustrates me. If there is any out of state kid that you can do that for, it's a legacy. But us? No. We just can't get it done.

Mullen probably called him as much as he called AJ

[TheLostDawg]

It helps if our head coach would have you know....tried to recruit him.

He was too busy with his side piece that he brought to Florida with him

[Todd4State]

He was too busy with his side piece that he brought to Florida with him

That and trying to figure out how to leave and stroke his ego.

[msstate7]

Saints, move up and get jeudy

[Todd4State]

Jackie Sherrill likes the Jets pick. 6'8" 364? Dadgum

[Irondawg]

I like Lamb a bit better

[ShotgunDawg]

I like Lamb a bit better

Ruggs is the fastest human I've ever seen in person. He's going to be awesome IMO

[Todd4State]

I think the 49ers may have pulled one over on the Bucs.

[ShotgunDawg]

I think the 49ers may have pulled one over on the Bucs.

Wirfs was the 49ers top rated tackle. I'm a friend with a 49er's scout.

9ers needed more picks so they traded

[RocketDawg]

Tua's family has a pretty nice house.....

Same street as Saban? UAT takes good care of their stars.

[Todd4State]

Wirfs was the 49ers top rated tackle. I'm a friend with a 49er's scout.

9ers needed more picks so they traded

Yep. And I bet they still get their guy at 14.

[TheLostDawg]

Wirfs was the 49ers top rated tackle. I'm a friend with a 49er's scout.

9ers needed more picks so they traded

I know they traded spots but what did 49 pick up?

[ShotgunDawg]

Yep. And I bet they still get their guy at 14.

Kinlaw he just texted me

[TheLostDawg]

They really didn't have any other early draft picks. They got lucky TB have them that got one spot

[msstate7]

Cowboys can get lamb

[Irondawg]

Yep Lamb is right there unless the Falcons grab him - I thought the Dolphins might have tried to jump the Cowboys and grab Lamb.

Betting the Falcons grab Chaisson

[Irondawg]

well that was a surprise - Terrell

[ShotgunDawg]

Incredible pick by Dallas

[Todd4State]

Cowboys can get lamb

And they did.

[ShotgunDawg]

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[Irondawg]

Well if injuries hit the O-line again it won't matter how good the WR are for the boys - hopefully they address that later

[ShotgunDawg]

Stars matter

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[msstate7]

Stars matter

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I certainly think stars matter; but if they were truly infallible, shouldn't it be all 4/5 stars and mainly 5s this early?

[ShotgunDawg]

I certainly think stars matter; but if they were truly infallible, shouldn't it be all 4/5 stars and mainly 5s this early?

The consolidation of 1st rounders to about 3 or 4 different schools is on full display tonight.

This draft is a poster child for the lack of parity in college football

Ohio State
LSU
Bama
Clemson

Everyone else has no shot

[ShotgunDawg]

The consolidation of 1st rounders to about 3 or 4 different schools is on full display tonight.

This draft is a poster child for the lack of parity in college football

Ohio State
LSU
Bama
Clemson

Everyone else has no shot

it's my theory that recruiting rankings have had a big hand in this consolidation.

The 4 schools mentioned here are 4 of the biggest cheaters in college football & recruiting rankings are advertisements to boosters of who they need to get involved with. They also have publicized recruiting from different areas of the country that in the past these schools may not have known as much about.

[ShotgunDawg]

Hopefully we all see why it's good to recruit Texas tonight.

[Todd4State]

The consolidation of 1st rounders to about 3 or 4 different schools is on full display tonight.

This draft is a poster child for the lack of parity in college football

Ohio State
LSU
Bama
Clemson

Everyone else has no shot

Or maybe they just rate players that commit to those schools high.

I'd be interested to see how many 5 star guys get drafted in the first round as a whole group. If you did it that way they don't look so smart.

[Todd4State]

Interesting that none of the LSU receivers have been taken yet.

[ShotgunDawg]

Or maybe they just rate players that commit to those schools high.

I'd be interested to see how many 5 star guys get drafted in the first round as a whole group. If you did it that way they don't look so smart.

I disagree. They are rated high because they are good & that's why they are going in the 1st round

[ShotgunDawg]

Interesting that none of the LSU receivers have been taken yet.

Chase may be a top 5 pick next year

[ShotgunDawg]

Yeah, Bama's players get unfairly bumped in the recruiting rankings*

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[TheLostDawg]

Interesting that none of the LSU receivers have been taken yet.

And then there was

[ShotgunDawg]

Did we recruit Justin Jefferson?

[msstate7]

Did we recruit Justin Jefferson?

Isn't he from an LSU family?

[TheLostDawg]

Hopefully this first round wr trend continues so when we start producing big time wr, we can get some more first round picks

[Irondawg]

Was really hoping Jefferson was going to slip to Saints. He would have been perfect there - Vikings got us again

[msstate7]

Freaking chargers took the saints' LB

[ShotgunDawg]

Isn't he from an LSU family?

His recruiting story doesn't make any sense to me.

Two brothers that played for LSU
Future 1st round pick
LSU offered him a scholarship when they only have 25 & can take far higher rated players
And he was ranked a 79?

Doesn't make any sense how that happened.

There has to be a really interesting recruiting/hiding out story here

Did he just commit really early & no one ever went to evaluate him?

https://247sports.com/Player/Justin-Jefferson-91653/

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Saw yesterday that one mock draft had Dantzler going 29th to the Titans. If so, it will keep our 1st round streak alive.

[Irondawg]

Yeah that move by the chargers hurt - Murray or Jefferson would have been nice. Wonder where they will go here

[msstate7]

Dianna Russini says look for OL, CB or RB for Saints in Rd 1.

This would be sorta shocking to me if we don't go LB or WR

Woman knows her stuff

[ShotgunDawg]

Arizona State has had a 1st round WR 2 years in a row & has finished 53 & 66 in passing offense. WTF?

[Todd4State]

I disagree. They are rated high because they are good & that's why they are going in the 1st round

I give more credit to Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, and etc's coaches for identifying the talent that the "recruiting experts" piggyback their ratings off of.

[ShotgunDawg]

I give more credit to Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, and etc's coaches for identifying the talent that the "recruiting experts" piggyback their ratings off of.

Maybe. I think the publicizing of recruiting & combines that allow kids from across the country to become friends has led to it being easier for these schools to reach their tentacles across the country & grab more of these freaks.

I'm not saying that these things are bad, but, if the world desires some sort of parity in college football, there will need to be adjustments in the way teams acquire talent.

[Todd4State]

Maybe. I think the publicizing of recruiting & combines that allow kids from across the country to become friends has led to it being easier for these schools to reach their tentacles across the country & grab more of these freaks.

I'm not saying that these things are bad, but, if the world desires some sort of parity in college football, there will need to be adjustments in the way teams acquire talent.

That's a different issue. Where we get hurt is when we lose a guy like Scott Lashley to Alabama. Not some five star guy from Texas that goes to Alabama.

[ShotgunDawg]

That's a different issue. Where we get hurt is when we lose a guy like Scott Lashley to Alabama. Not some five star guy from Texas that goes to Alabama.

I mean, us getting Lashley, Knott, & R Davis ain't exactly making up for Bama having 3 1st round WRs (Waddle next year)

[Irondawg]

What do y'all think of the Packers drafting Love?

[Dawgcap]

We lose recruits because the rules are set up and will always be to a few big boys in each conference. This is a media driven, tv rating sport. The big tv ratings teams will always be allowed to get away with things mid to lower power 5 teams will be scrutinized for.
A mid tier team will be investigated if they step on the big boys if they get multiple big time players from these top tier protected teams.

[BeardoMSU]

What do y'all think of the Packers drafting Love?

I know what Ay-Ay-Ron thinks about it, lol.

[ShotgunDawg]

We lose recruits because the rules are set up and will always be to a few big boys in each conference. This is a media driven, tv rating sport. The big tv ratings teams will always be allowed to get away with things mid to lower power 5 teams will be scrutinized for.
A mid tier team will be investigated if they step on the big boys if they get multiple big time players from these top tier protected teams.

Very true.

Like Texas A&M. They aren't a blue blood & don't have a tradition of high level success, but because of the size of their fan base, they are basically given the green flag to go state by state, including MS, & buy players

[Irondawg]

What I had never heard of this auburn DB and they said his dad ran track at MSU

[Todd4State]

Oh look- another first round pick with MSU ties that went to Auburn that we never recruited.

Relentless effort my ass.

[ShotgunDawg]

Oh look- another first round pick with MSU ties that went to Auburn that we never recruited.

Relentless effort my ass.

That 2 1st rounders with MSU ties that Auburn got.

We've got to do better. We can do better

[Irondawg]

I’m going to call Willie Gay to the Saints tomorrow

[msstate7]

I’m going to call Willie Gay to the Saints tomorrow

They don't have a 2nd round pick. I hope you right

[Irondawg]

I remember when Mullen really, really wanted Edwards-Helaire but couldn’t pull him from LSU

[ShotgunDawg]

15 1st round picks for the SEC. Yikes

[dawgday166]

Wait ... KC took CEH over Kylin. What were they thinking *

[Todd4State]

That 2 1st rounders with MSU ties that Auburn got.

We've got to do better. We can do better

Absolutely. Dan did well finding diamonds in the rough and developing them. But you have to have some 4-5 star talent around them to reach our full potential and Dan simply didn't do that enough. Imagine our 2018 team with Gardner Minchew, AJ Brown, Lashley, Derrick Brown, Jamarcus Bradley, Omar Bayless, and the guy from Auburn who I can't pronounce his name. THAT is how Dan limited our ceiling at MSU.

[Todd4State]

Wait ... KC took CEH over Kylin. What were they thinking *

Probably that Kylin is still in school? I'm not sure why some of our fans shit on Kylin. Because of his twitter? Because it sounds cool to say that he's bad in pass protection? People in West Point that have their feelings hurt that he started over Aeris still? He has had two 200 yard rushing games in his career here with a crappy passing offense in Moorhead's system which has only happened about 10 times in MSU history and last year was the fourth best season in MSU history in terms of rushing yards.

I remember a lot of our fans saying the same things about Anthony Dixon when he played.

[dawgday166]

Probably that Kylin is still in school? I'm not sure why some of our fans shit on Kylin. Because of his twitter? Because it sounds cool to say that he's bad in pass protection? People in West Point that have their feelings hurt that he started over Aeris still? He has had two 200 yard rushing games in his career here with a crappy passing offense in Moorhead's system which has only happened about 10 times in MSU history and last year was the fourth best season in MSU history in terms of rushing yards.

I remember a lot of our fans saying the same things about Anthony Dixon when he played.

200 yds against who? And I know the answer which is my point.

And AD could actually break tackles against upper tier competition and I thought he had a shot at making it ... Which he did briefly. He was tough and a work horse ... Not the fastest guy tho.

Same with Norwood but he had the speed and elusiveness.

ETA .. BTW I thought he entered the draft but now I do believe he finally decided to stay. Hell ... I hadn't been following closely and he changes his mind every 15 mins or so.

[Todd4State]

200 yds against who? And I know the answer which is my point.

And AD could actually break tackles against upper tier competition and I thought he had a shot at making it ... Which he did briefly. He was tough and a work horse ... Not the fastest guy tho.

Same with Norwood but he had the speed and elusiveness.

K-State in 2018 and Arkansas 2019. Why is that your point? Again- it's only been done 10 times in school history. We've had good running backs that weren't able to do that against similar competition the vast majority of the time. It's an impressive feat no matter who the competition is.

[dawgday166]

K-State in 2018 and Arkansas 2019. Why is that your point? Again- it's only been done 10 times in school history. We've had good running backs that weren't able to do that against similar competition the vast majority of the time. It's an impressive feat no matter who the competition is.

Cause they sucked.

[Todd4State]

Cause they sucked.

We threw a no hitter against Alcorn State several years ago. That's still impressive even though they sucked. Do you think JJ Johnson sucks because he never had a 200 yard game against a bad team? Or Dak?

[DeltaChicagoDog]

Your impulse here feels right on, Todd. MSU players are our guys/gals. They put on the colors and work their tails off for MSU and the fans day in and day out, whether it's personally motivated or not. Anyone who attends Mississippi State has a personal motivation for doing so. To get a degree and/or further and improve their life in some way. Why dump on KH? For being the age he is and in the time we live in?

MSU "family" is mostly useful marketing strategy, but it's not all BS. If there is a family component, it's the alumni/fans, many of whom are multigenerational, and the players. All of whom at one time or another, eat, sleep, and breathe Mississippi State. Coaches come and go. They aren't "family" so much as a spouse/ex spouse. There are ways we can be critical without being asinine or a glutton for negativity.

[dawgday166]

We threw a no hitter against Alcorn State several years ago. That's still impressive even though they sucked. Do you think JJ Johnson sucks because he never had a 200 yard game against a bad team? Or Dak?

A no hitter against anyone and to keep running the score up in football games against weak ass teams is not the same thing.

JJ Johnson was a damn good back too who gained yds against tough competition ... Like Boobie & Norwood. Dak was a good QB. So was Fitz.

[Turfdawg67]

K-State in 2018 and Arkansas 2019. Why is that your point? Again- it's only been done 10 times in school history. We've had good running backs that weren't able to do that against similar competition the vast majority of the time. It's an impressive feat no matter who the competition is.

But if a QB throws for a lot of yards against weak competition it doesn't mean anything. Just the completion ratio. Got it.

[dawgday166]

But if a QB throws for a lot of yards against weak competition it doesn't mean anything. Just the completion ratio. Got it.

Nice point. Started to point out he Fitz basher #1 and Fitz actually won games for us throughout his career. So did Aeris. Both done a lot more for MSU than Hill has done and when Aeris got demoted he wasn't on twitter every 15 mins and during halftime whining about not getting enough touches.

[Turfdawg67]

Nice point. Started to point out he Fitz basher #1 and Fitz actually won games for us throughout his career. So did Aeris. Both done a lot more for MSU than Hill has done and when Aeris got demoted he wasn't on twitter every 15 mins and during halftime whining about not getting enough touches.

That was actually referring to his KT assessment but Fitz would work too. I have to differ with you on Hill, I'm a big fan. MSU as a whole sucked against stiff competition the last two years, not just Kylin.

[R2Dawg]

That was actually referring to his KT assessment but Fitz would work too. I have to differ with you on Hill, I'm a big fan. MSU as a whole sucked against stiff competition the last two years, not just Kylin.

Hill rarely had a hole last year in SEC games. He is a good back and gets criticized way too much. He led SEC in rushing for goodness sakes. Other teams played weak teams too and they didn't have the leading rusher.

[R2Dawg]

We threw a no hitter against Alcorn State several years ago. That's still impressive even though they sucked. Do you think JJ Johnson sucks because he never had a 200 yard game against a bad team? Or Dak?

I thought JJ had like 237 yds against someone? I'll have to look that up but that is not the point of your post. I agree that does or doesn't make him a good back. But JJ was a great RB. That was Jackie bully ball at its finest. JJ could truck some folks.

Hill runs hard and at times ran for his life part of the year. Hope he has a monster year this year.

[Maroonthirteen]

JJ had over 200 yards vs Alabama, 1998.

[Percho]

willie to chief's

[Irondawg]

Well no luck with the Saints getting Willie Gay

[bulldawg28]

There you go Willie!

[Irondawg]

I wish the Saints could have traded their first next year for the Colts 2 second this year and could have gotten one of the WR and Gay or another defensive player. I would have been going all in on what may be Brees last year

[msstate7]

Well no luck with the Saints getting Willie Gay

Maybe Zack Baum will continue to slide.

[KOdawg1]

Knock it out Willie

[ShotgunDawg]

Willie likely sacraficed around $10 million by declaring.

[Irondawg]

Good moves for the Saints to get Baun

Raiders being weird again - taking 3 receivers out of first 4 picks

[parabrave]

Good moves for the Saints to get Baun

Raiders being weird again - taking 3 receivers out of first 4 picks

They must've dug up Al's draft playbook.

[MetEdDawg]

They must've dug up Al's draft playbook.

They may be drafting QB or trading for a QB next year and their WR group was at best bottom 10 in the NFL. Maybe bottom 5. And they are in the same division as the Chiefs. Have to fight offense with offense when it's as good as the Chiefs offense is.

I'll say this. I wouldn't be shocked to see Gruden make a push for Dak if he goes unsigned by the Cowboys. Young group of WR with a solid QB and a good OL and your RB in Jacobs. They could be contenders with a move like that.

[HoopsDawg]

So 3 first rounders, 1 second rounder, and one 3rd rounder off that 2018 defense. Plus Hoyette who is in the NFL.

[KOdawg1]

So 3 first rounders, 1 second rounder, and one 3rd rounder off that 2018 defense. Plus Hoyette who is in the NFL.
Gerri Green was a 6th rounder as well.


And Joe lost 5 games with it

[Irondawg]

So a kid from Colorado (linebacker) got drafted in the 3rd round that was from Magnolia MS and went to Coahoma CC.

Somehow with all our LB problems we apparently didn't even offer and CO was on him first. He did visit OM, Mizzou and Ark.

https://247sports.com/Player/Davion-Taylor-46047322/

[BeardoMSU]

Gerri Green was a 6th rounder as well.


And Joe lost 5 games with it
Yikes.

I feel the worst kind of embarrassment thinking about all the excuses I made for Joe in '18. Damn....**** me, lol.

[Todd4State]

So a kid from Colorado (linebacker) got drafted in the 3rd round that was from Magnolia MS and went to Coahoma CC.

Somehow with all our LB problems we apparently didn't even offer and CO was on him first. He did visit OM, Mizzou and Ark.

https://247sports.com/Player/Davion-Taylor-46047322/

And yet we have fans that want us to recruit more out of state.

[ShotgunDawg]

So a kid from Colorado (linebacker) got drafted in the 3rd round that was from Magnolia MS and went to Coahoma CC.

Somehow with all our LB problems we apparently didn't even offer and CO was on him first. He did visit OM, Mizzou and Ark.

https://247sports.com/Player/Davion-Taylor-46047322/

Evaluation is really hard. Some kids just get better.

We'll always miss on players regardless of who is our coach

[ShotgunDawg]

And yet we have fans that want us to recruit more out of state.

I want us to recruit good players & couldn't care less where they're from.

See, the only reason this matters is because we didn't have much depth at LB.

If we would've recruited good players & had the neccessary depth at LB, then no one would've said anything about this kid.

I want to stop taking chances on bad players & sign 25 good ones every signing period. If we can do that, it doesn't matter where they come from.

[dawgday166]

I want us to recruit good players & couldn't care less where they're from.

See, the only reason this matters is because we didn't have much depth at LB.

If we would've recruited good players & had the neccessary depth at LB, then no one would've said anything about this kid.

I want to stop taking chances on bad players & sign 25 good ones every signing period. If we can do that, it doesn't matter where they come from.

When talking D tho ... we can fill out a damn good roster with kids within a 3 to 5 hour radius. Mostly 3 if you count JC system too.

[parabrave]

Getting back to this draft do the Saints take Fromm or Herbert? They need to be looking for Drews replacement and these 2 are a good value for a late round pick. Change out Eaason for Herbert. Sorry getting old.

[BrunswickDawg]

My man Deejay Dallas to the Seahawks!
Another kid from Brunswick to the league - that's 4 for us right now.

[Turfdawg67]

Through 6 rounds the NFL drafted 50 players from 13 SEC teams... care to take a stab at the one that had zero draft picks?!?

[BeardoMSU]

Through 6 rounds the NFL drafted 50 players from 13 SEC teams... care to take a stab at the one that had zero draft picks?!?

Really not surprising, considering only that lack of talent could find a way to lose to Moorehead twice, lol.

[Homedawg]

Gerri Green was a 6th rounder as well.


And Joe lost 5 games with it

Can't win zero to negative one.....

[Lord McBuckethead]

Getting back to this draft do the Saints take Fromm or Herbert? They need to be looking for Drews replacement and these 2 are a good value for a late round pick. Change out Eaason for Herbert. Sorry getting old.

I would gi Easen. Fromm never has impressed me