Looks Like Kiffin Isn't A Big Plumlee Fan....

[ShotgunDawg]

At least not as much as Bo Bounds...

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[Hambone]

Or, hear me out, he has the opportunity to have a 5 star QB on his football team???

By your logic, Leach doesn’t care for any of our QB’s

[MetEdDawg]

We just landed KJ Costello in a Leach-run offense and just got a verbal commit from the highest rated QB we've ever had.

Kiffin is starring down the barrel of Plumlee being his QB for the next few years. If I were him I would be extremely concerned about that situation and looking to fix it any way I could.

[Todd4State]

Plumlee doesn't fit Kiffin's offense. I've also heard he doesn't like guys that play two sports.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We just landed KJ Costello in a Leach-run offense and just got a verbal commit from the highest rated QB we've ever had.

Kiffin is starring down the barrel of Plumlee being his QB for the next few years. If I were him I would be extremely concerned about that situation and looking to fix it any way I could.

I think corral is the QB.

[ShotgunDawg]

But Bo Bounds said that Plumlee was a star in the making...

[msstate7]

But Bo Bounds said that Plumlee was a star in the making...

He still could be. I'd be showing him Freddie Milons tape, and trying to get him to buy in to that role

[MetEdDawg]

I think corral is the QB.

Corral is clearly the better talent. But dude is a nut job. If Kiffin wants to win over the next few years, he will figure out that the QB to help do that currently isn't on their roster.

Not sure who it is but I don't think Corral or Plumlee win them any games they shouldn't.

[Commercecomet24]

If Plumlee would understand that he can become a Julian Edelman type player he could make some money in the NFL. He needs to go ahead and look at becoming a slot receiver/jet sweep/wildcat type player and forget about being a full time QB.

[thf24]

OM guys have seemed pretty confident from the day Kiffin stepped on campus that Corral will be his starter at QB and Plumlee will be a scatback/slot or move to DB. Not sure if there's been any word how Plumlee feels about that.

[ShotgunDawg]

OM guys have seemed pretty confident from the day Kiffin stepped on campus that Corral will be his starter at QB and Plumlee will be a scatback/slot or move to DB. Not sure if there's been any word how Plumlee feels about that.

If I'm Mullen, I'm keeping an eye on this.

Plumlee in Mullen's offense would be scary. IN MULLEN'S offense, Plumlee is way better than anything Florida has

[Cooterpoot]

If Plumlee would understand that he can become a Julian Edelman type player he could make some money in the NFL. He needs to go ahead and look at becoming a slot receiver/jet sweep/wildcat type player and forget about being a full time QB.

He's looking around. I don't think he's at OM in another year if he's not QB1. Lots of schools will take a shot at him too.

[Cooterpoot]

If I'm Mullen, I'm keeping an eye on this.

Plumlee in Mullen's offense would be scary. IN MULLEN'S offense, Plumlee is way better than anything Florida has

Mullen didn't even want him here.

[ShotgunDawg]

Mullen didn't even want him here.

I find that really odd. He clearly looks better than anything Florida has

[Commercecomet24]

I find that really odd. He clearly looks better than anything Florida has

Mullen likes the big QBs. I don't know that Plumlee could stand running that QB power all season.

[Commercecomet24]

He's looking around. I don't think he's at OM in another year if he's not QB1. Lots of schools will take a shot at him too.

I agree he want's to be QB but he needs to think long term. He's not gonna be a QB in the nfl, of course he may not even want to play in the nfl, so then it would make more sense to want to play QB in college, if that's as far as you plan on going.

[ShotgunDawg]

Mullen likes the big QBs. I don't know that Plumlee could stand running that QB power all season.

Mullen is going to need more game breakers to beat Georgia.

Mullen is so conservative in the way he awards playing time. Many times he's right, but also many times he's so conservative that he dampers down the ceiling of the team.

[ShotgunDawg]

He's looking around. I don't think he's at OM in another year if he's not QB1. Lots of schools will take a shot at him too.

Well... I mean, if he wants to catch 50 balls or more in a season.....

[RiverCityDawg]

If Plumlee would understand that he can become a Julian Edelman type player he could make some money in the NFL. He needs to go ahead and look at becoming a slot receiver/jet sweep/wildcat type player and forget about being a full time QB.

I agree with you, but a some guys seem to be QB or bust (see: Tebow, Tim). Maybe baseball is his long term plan and he just wants to play QB for fun as long as he can? If I'm his father I'm advising him to play WR, CB or focus on baseball. To use the Edelman comparison, he can switch when he gets to the NFL, but that's a much tough road.

With all that said, I think he has the makeup to play QB and can be a really good college QB, just not an NFL QB. I'm much more afraid of ole miss with Plumlee than I am Crazy Corral.

[Commercecomet24]

Mullen is going to need more game breakers to beat Georgia.

Mullen is so conservative in the way he awards playing time. Many times he's right, but also many times he's so conservative that he dampers down the ceiling of the team.

Especially conservative in big games. Dan has proven he can win the games hes supposed to win which makes him a good coach, but he has yet to prove he can win the big ones and until he does that he will remain a good but not elite coach.

[Commercecomet24]

I agree with you, but a some guys seem to be QB or bust (see: Tebow, Tim). Maybe baseball is his long term plan and he just wants to play QB for fun as long as he can? If I'm his father I'm advising him to play WR, CB or focus on baseball. To use the Edelman comparison, he can switch when he gets to the NFL, but that's a much tough road.

With all that said, I think he has the makeup to play QB and can be a really good college QB, just not an NFL QB. I'm much more afraid of ole miss with Plumlee than I am Crazy Corral.

I agree if he want's to play football long term he needs to get away from being a qb, but if his only intention is to play college football then by all means chase that dream of being a qb because someone will give him a shot. And I agree on the Plumlee/Corral part. Plumlee much more dangerous than Corral.

[ShotgunDawg]

I agree with you, but a some guys seem to be QB or bust (see: Tebow, Tim). Maybe baseball is his long term plan and he just wants to play QB for fun as long as he can? If I'm his father I'm advising him to play WR, CB or focus on baseball. To use the Edelman comparison, he can switch when he gets to the NFL, but that's a much tough road.

With all that said, I think he has the makeup to play QB and can be a really good college QB, just not an NFL QB. I'm much more afraid of ole miss with Plumlee than I am Crazy Corral.

He can't hit well enough to just focus on baseball. He's got a 98% better chance of being an NFL player than he does an MLB player

[Commercecomet24]

He can't hit well enough to just focus on baseball. He's got a 98% better chance of being an NFL player than he does an MLB player

This. He won't ever get out of the low minors if he goes baseball.

[Todd4State]

I think Plumlee fits Rich Rodriguez's offense better than Dan's for the reasons already stated.

Maybe he goes wherever Rich Rodriguez lands next if that's D-1 and if not maybe he goes somewhere like Tulane or comes home to USM who I think would adapt their offense for him.

I can't see him switching positions when the main reason he went to Ole Miss in the first place was to play QB.

[RiverCityDawg]

He can't hit well enough to just focus on baseball. He's got a 98% better chance of being an NFL player than he does an MLB player

"98% better chance" is oddly specific, and I'll yield to your baseball scouting because I haven't see him play, just didn't want to eliminate that as part of his thought process.

[MaroonFlounder]

"98% better chance" is oddly specific.

That's what I was thinking.

Shotgun's grasp of statistical probability is like the Chinese informing the world of covid cases/deaths after around March 15.

[dawgday166]

I don't think Plumlee fits Dan. As stated by someone else, Dan likes bigger QBs. Plumlee could be Wes Welker type ... also stated above.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Mullen always liked big QB's that could pound the ball up the middle in the run game. Tebow, Relf, Dak, Fitz, Cam Newton, etc. They could stick their nose up the middle and push the pile for a 6 yard gain. Plumlee is in the Manziel mode. Fast, quick, elusive. It's like the difference in having Derrick Henry or Fournette at tailback, versus Kamara or McCaffrey.

[Jarius]

But Bo Bounds said that Plumlee was a star in the making...

Plumlee will play but it won’t be qb IMO.

[Ari Gold]

I think corral is the QB.

I also agree.

[Ari Gold]

But Bo Bounds said that Plumlee was a star in the making...

He also thought Hinson was an all sec talent in hoops as well
And said Sumlin was the next ?big thing ? in the college football ranks..

[ShotgunDawg]

"98% better chance" is oddly specific, and I'll yield to your baseball scouting because I haven't see him play, just didn't want to eliminate that as part of his thought process.

Just painting a picture.

[Cooterpoot]

I find that really odd. He clearly looks better than anything Florida has

He's smallish and not a very good passer.

[Cooterpoot]

Well... I mean, if he wants to catch 50 balls or more in a season.....

He's not moving to WR. He's already proven to be a decent P5 QB. He's still got a RS year too.

[ShotgunDawg]

He's smallish and not a very good passer.

But he's better than Trask. Way more explosive and dynamic.

[RiverCityDawg]

But he's better than Trask. Way more explosive and dynamic.

You said he's better than Trask in response to Cooter saying Plumlee is not a good passer. Surely you are not saying Plumlee is a better passer than Trask because that's ridiculous. They're not even in the same league.

Trask is better as a passer than Plumlee as much as Plumlee is better as a runner than Trask. It just comes down to which skill set you prefer. I like a dual threat QB that is a weapon as a runner, but passing ability is the highest priority for a QB unless you're running the triple option. No way I'm taking Plumlee over Trask to play QB.

[ShotgunDawg]

You said he's better than Trask in response to Cooter saying Plumlee is not a good passer. Surely you are not saying Plumlee is a better passer than Trask because that's ridiculous. They're not even in the same league.

Trask is better as a passer than Plumlee as much as Plumlee is better as a runner than Trask. It just comes down to which skill set you prefer. I like a dual threat QB that is a weapon as a runner, but passing ability is the highest priority for a QB unless you're running the triple option. No way I'm taking Plumlee over Trask to play QB.

I think you're over valuing Trask's passing ability

[thf24]

But he's better than Trask. Way more explosive and dynamic.

You could also say Dylan Favre was way more explosive and dynamic than Chris Relf. Granted this isn't a great example since Trask obviously isn't the runner Relf was in any form, but I think there's a clear, longstanding pattern that shows Mullen is uncomfortable playing undersized QB's, regardless of their top end playmaking ability in his offense.

[ShotgunDawg]

You could also say Dylan Favre was way more explosive and dynamic than Chris Relf. Granted this isn't a great example since Trask obviously isn't the runner Relf was in any form, but I think there's a clear, longstanding pattern that shows Mullen is uncomfortable playing undersized QB's, regardless of their top end playmaking ability in his offense.

You may have hit the nail on the head that Mullen requires a certain size at QB

[RiverCityDawg]

I think you're over valuing Trask's passing ability

67% completion percentage, 2941 yards, 25 TDS to 7 Ints and a 156 passer rating last year. It's hard to compare stats with Plumlee who was a part time player (in large part because of his limitations as a passer) but he had a 53% completion percentage even with the threat of him being a runner, only 4 TDS to 3 Ints, and a 108 rating.

I'm not saying Trask is the greatest passer in the league, just that he's a MUCH better passer than Plumlee. I don't see how that's debatable.

[ShotgunDawg]

67% completion percentage, 2941 yards, 25 TDS to 7 Ints and a 156 passer rating last year. It's hard to compare stats with Plumlee who was a part time player (in large part because of his limitations as a passer) but he had a 53% completion percentage even with the threat of him being a runner, only 4 TDS to 3 Ints, and a 108 rating.

I'm not saying Trask is the greatest passer in the league, just that he's a MUCH better passer than Plumlee. I don't see how that's debatable.

He's also a good bit older than Plumlee. I'm not a huge Trask fan.

I think he's "adequate" and really does nothing to give Florida an advantage against UGA

[R2Dawg]

67% completion percentage, 2941 yards, 25 TDS to 7 Ints and a 156 passer rating last year. It's hard to compare stats with Plumlee who was a part time player (in large part because of his limitations as a passer) but he had a 53% completion percentage even with the threat of him being a runner, only 4 TDS to 3 Ints, and a 108 rating.

I'm not saying Trask is the greatest passer in the league, just that he's a MUCH better passer than Plumlee. I don't see how that's debatable.

Shotgun, don't let your opinion get in the way of the facts. Trask is maybe above average, Plumlee below average. Trask is better.

[ShotgunDawg]

Shotgun, don't let your opinion get in the way of the facts. Trask is maybe above average, Plumlee below average. Trask is better.

One is 2 years older than other & plays with far more talent around them.

I'm looking at the talent of the two players, not stats.

Sorry, stats are only a peice of the puzzle. Sorry if you think stats are the end all be all of evaluation. That's pretty ignorant

[Turfdawg67]

That's right! Stats are one thing but Shotgun's eye for talent is on a whole other level!

IMO, Trask saved Mullen's season because he is clearly better than Franks. But Mullen being Mullen started Franks over him.

[TNDawg35]

Trask is the better QB

Plumlee is the better athlete, but not a QB. Ole Miss took him as a QB just to get him. Plain and simple. He is very very fast, that?s the only thing that saves him.

He is a hell of a pinch runner in baseball also, but not a D1 baseball player.

[ShotgunDawg]

That's right! Stats are one thing but Shotgun's eye for talent is on a whole other level!

IMO, Trask saved Mullen's season because he is clearly better than Franks. But Mullen being Mullen started Franks over him.

Trask is better than Franks, but I've never been a Franks fan either.

Mullen is a damn good QB coach. I think it's reasonable to believe that Plumlee would be better at most things with Mullen as his coach

[ShotgunDawg]

Trask is the better QB

Plumlee is the better athlete, but not a QB. Ole Miss took him as a QB just to get him. Plain and simple. He is very very fast, that?s the only thing that saves him.

He is a hell of a pinch runner in baseball also, but not a D1 baseball player.

Trask has more NFL potential than Plumlee as a QB, however, Plumlee is way more explosive. I think it's reasonable to believe that if Florida took Plumlee & adjusted their offense ot fit his skill set, Florida would be a better team & have a greater chance of beating UGA

[Todd4State]

You could also say Dylan Favre was way more explosive and dynamic than Chris Relf. Granted this isn't a great example since Trask obviously isn't the runner Relf was in any form, but I think there's a clear, longstanding pattern that shows Mullen is uncomfortable playing undersized QB's, regardless of their top end playmaking ability in his offense.

Probably scarred from Tyson Lee vs LSU. Like the rest of us.

[FISHDAWG]

You could also say Dylan Favre was way more explosive and dynamic than Chris Relf. Granted this isn't a great example since Trask obviously isn't the runner Relf was in any form, but I think there's a clear, longstanding pattern that shows Mullen is uncomfortable playing undersized QB's, regardless of their top end playmaking ability in his offense.

maybe he never got over the disappointment against LSU in his first year here ... 4th & goal from the 1 yard line and a 5'-10" QB tried to do a jump pass .....................................

ETA - posted before seeing Todd's post ... and yes, I'm def still scarred from that play .... If I remember correctly I think we had 1st & goal from the 3 yd line - Ralph, Dak, or Fitz gets us in

[Todd4State]

maybe he never got over the disappointment against LSU in his first year here ... 4th & goal from the 1 yard line and a 5'-10" QB tried to do a jump pass .....................................

ETA - posted before seeing Todd's post ... and yes, I'm def still scarred from that play .... If I remember correctly I think we had 1st & goal from the 3 yd line - Ralph, Dak, or Fitz gets us in

Even worse- Dixon gets in on that play too.