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fishwater99
04-16-2020, 02:40 PM
I think we can have pro sports with no fans, since you could quarantine the players, but don't see how that would work with college players.


https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/29038491/dr-anthony-fauci-promotes-single-site-fan-free-return-sports

https://www.wrbl.com/college-sports/college-football-likely-not-happening-this-fall-due-to-coronavirus-espns-chris-fowler-says/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1586903013

https://koanewsradio.iheart.com/featured/logan-lewis/content/2020-04-15-chris-fowler-espn-cfb-broadcaster/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/wesleywhistle/2020/04/13/what-if-theres-no-college-football-this-fall/?fbclid=IwAR1tzxkgEgETcinLo-rUeCp21h6Kl43OIYl1nZ7v7y0YWLLMDItSosDC7bs#7602ce0a 6120

ShotgunDawg
04-16-2020, 02:58 PM
Too early to know. I feel like we try to jump the gun on this every day, but the same answer persists

Todd4State
04-16-2020, 03:12 PM
Government is talking about sports venues opening in phase one.

Sorry media!

fishwater99
04-16-2020, 03:27 PM
Government is talking about sports venues opening in phase one.

Sorry media!

With fans in stadiums?

Todd4State
04-16-2020, 03:38 PM
With fans in stadiums?

"If strict social distancing measures are in place."

Phase three they will allow fans in totally. I anticipate that will be by August.

RiverCityDawg
04-16-2020, 03:52 PM
"If strict social distancing measures are in place."

Phase three they will allow fans in totally. I anticipate that will be by August.

Just an idea, but could programs only sell tickets to 50% capacity (or 30% or whatever) to allow for social distancing within the stadium? Ticket offices can block out the seat numbers that would make people sit beside each other. Just wondering if there's a middle ground between "fans" and "no fans".

I think ticket sells will be down dramatically anyway, but is there a way to manage the seating to create social distancing that prevents "no fans"? Seems feasible if full crowds are out of the question.

mparkerfd20
04-16-2020, 03:56 PM
Yes

Todd4State
04-16-2020, 04:10 PM
Just an idea, but could programs only sell tickets to 50% capacity (or 30% or whatever) to allow for social distancing within the stadium? Ticket offices can block out the seat numbers that would make people sit beside each other. Just wondering if there's a middle ground between "fans" and "no fans".

I think ticket sells will be down dramatically anyway, but is there a way to manage the seating to create social distancing that prevents "no fans"? Seems feasible if full crowds are out of the question.

I think they could. But when football season comes around I don't think they'll have to.

TrapGame
04-16-2020, 04:13 PM
Worst case scenario is we play nothing but conference games and you attend at your own risk. But I don't think it will come to that. Everything will be back to normal by August 1.

And b/c of the quarantine this could turn out to be one of the most interesting college football years ever.

Leeshouldveflanked
04-16-2020, 04:33 PM
Using this ticket means enter stadium at own risk. NCAA and/or MSU are not responsible for any liabilities.... that should do it.

fishwater99
04-16-2020, 04:51 PM
Just an idea, but could programs only sell tickets to 50% capacity (or 30% or whatever) to allow for social distancing within the stadium? Ticket offices can block out the seat numbers that would make people sit beside each other. Just wondering if there's a middle ground between "fans" and "no fans".

I think ticket sells will be down dramatically anyway, but is there a way to manage the seating to create social distancing that prevents "no fans"? Seems feasible if full crowds are out of the question.

Six feet between fans would be like 15%.

Todd4State
04-16-2020, 05:06 PM
Using this ticket means enter stadium at own risk. NCAA and/or MSU are not responsible for any liabilities.... that should do it.

BOOM!

msbulldog
04-16-2020, 05:11 PM
Using this ticket means enter stadium at own risk. NCAA and/or MSU are not responsible for any liabilities.... that should do it.

Lee you cannot write away liability.

Jack Lambert
04-16-2020, 06:49 PM
I think we can have pro sports with no fans, since you could quarantine the players, but don't see how that would work with college players.


https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/29038491/dr-anthony-fauci-promotes-single-site-fan-free-return-sports

https://www.wrbl.com/college-sports/college-football-likely-not-happening-this-fall-due-to-coronavirus-espns-chris-fowler-says/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1586903013

https://koanewsradio.iheart.com/featured/logan-lewis/content/2020-04-15-chris-fowler-espn-cfb-broadcaster/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/wesleywhistle/2020/04/13/what-if-theres-no-college-football-this-fall/?fbclid=IwAR1tzxkgEgETcinLo-rUeCp21h6Kl43OIYl1nZ7v7y0YWLLMDItSosDC7bs#7602ce0a 6120

I could see the college football stadiums only letting in season ticket holders and spreading them out. One way or another there will be college football.

Maroonthirteen
04-16-2020, 06:53 PM
If the season gets canceled or games with no fans..... schools need to start retro fitting bleachers in loge type seating or club level type suites anyway.

Attendance is only going to go down with TV and ridiculous tickets, parking and concession prices.

BiscuitEater
04-16-2020, 07:13 PM
Lee you cannot write away liability.

Guess you never parked in a parking garage!

RocketDawg
04-16-2020, 07:18 PM
Using this ticket means enter stadium at own risk. NCAA and/or MSU are not responsible for any liabilities.... that should do it.

Isn't it already that way?

R2Dawg
04-16-2020, 08:17 PM
Too early to know. I feel like we try to jump the gun on this every day, but the same answer persists

Looks like a pretty good phase approach laid out today that is data based for each gate into the next phase of reopen. Data driven and very logical based on how the virus is doing. Talk about things will not be the same again. This model will be used again on future breakouts. Watch and see.

gravedigger
04-17-2020, 07:10 PM
I think we can have pro sports with no fans, since you could quarantine the players, but don't see how that would work with college players.


https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/29038491/dr-anthony-fauci-promotes-single-site-fan-free-return-sports

https://www.wrbl.com/college-sports/college-football-likely-not-happening-this-fall-due-to-coronavirus-espns-chris-fowler-says/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1586903013

https://koanewsradio.iheart.com/featured/logan-lewis/content/2020-04-15-chris-fowler-espn-cfb-broadcaster/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/wesleywhistle/2020/04/13/what-if-theres-no-college-football-this-fall/?fbclid=IwAR1tzxkgEgETcinLo-rUeCp21h6Kl43OIYl1nZ7v7y0YWLLMDItSosDC7bs#7602ce0a 6120

Conference commissioners said that until students can be on campus, there will be no college football.

Student athletes and such.

Ezsoil
04-18-2020, 08:01 AM
I just wonder what the players think about this....I remember when Magic Johnson tested positive for HIV...other players refused to play with him on the court....this time, all of the NBA players who tested positive with the Wuhan virus showed no symptoms..

Has anyone heard from a player what their thoughts are about playing and practicing....

maroonmania
04-18-2020, 08:55 AM
Just an idea, but could programs only sell tickets to 50% capacity (or 30% or whatever) to allow for social distancing within the stadium? Ticket offices can block out the seat numbers that would make people sit beside each other. Just wondering if there's a middle ground between "fans" and "no fans".

I think ticket sells will be down dramatically anyway, but is there a way to manage the seating to create social distancing that prevents "no fans"? Seems feasible if full crowds are out of the question.

Not even sure how that would work given season tickets have already been purchased by everyone.

RiverCityDawg
04-18-2020, 09:07 AM
Not even sure how that would work given season tickets have already been purchased by everyone.

This is on the premise that full stadiums won't be allowed. If that's the case they will have to refund season tickets regardless. In a partial capacity scenario they would just prioritize based on Bulldog Club points and redo seats for 2020 only, then go back to normal in 2021.

In fact, even if they do allow full stadiums, I suspect the University will refund anyone that doesn't feel comfortable attending games this year. I imagine there would be a pretty big backlash if we didn't do that.

Again, this is a contingency discussion. I'm hopeful it's a non-issue.

somebodyshotmypaw
04-18-2020, 09:10 AM
My opinion is that we should have football with everything normal. People who want to attend can attend. Those who are uncomfortable attending can refuse to attend. Each individual can exercise their right as a free individual to make the choice that they feel is best for them. I'm amazed at all of the anti-socialism folks who are falling in line with "government should tell us when we can leave the house". In a free country, it really should be so simple.

basedog
04-18-2020, 09:14 AM
My opinion is that we should have football with everything normal. People who want to attend can attend. Those who are uncomfortable attending can refuse to attend. Each individual can exercise their right as a free individual to make the choice that they feel is best for them. I'm amazed at all of the anti-socialism folks who are falling in line with "government should tell us when we can leave the house". In a free country, it really should be so simple.

I tend to agree, I have changed my mind about football not being played. IF I attend I may do all I cab to protect my self by wearing a mask and gloves.

Bothrops
04-18-2020, 11:00 AM
No need to be sans mask, and bell ringing hand must be gloved!

Jarius
04-18-2020, 11:30 AM
My opinion is that we should have football with everything normal. People who want to attend can attend. Those who are uncomfortable attending can refuse to attend. Each individual can exercise their right as a free individual to make the choice that they feel is best for them. I'm amazed at all of the anti-socialism folks who are falling in line with "government should tell us when we can leave the house". In a free country, it really should be so simple.


This is going to happen. The irrational fear mongering will subside soon enough.

BeardoMSU
04-18-2020, 11:34 AM
My opinion is that we should have football with everything normal. People who want to attend can attend. Those who are uncomfortable attending can refuse to attend. Each individual can exercise their right as a free individual to make the choice that they feel is best for them. I'm amazed at all of the anti-socialism folks who are falling in line with "government should tell us when we can leave the house". In a free country, it really should be so simple.

Does this apply to the student athletes too? What about marching band, cheerleaders, stadium staff, etc.?

Jarius
04-18-2020, 11:35 AM
Does this apply to the student athletes too?

Why would it not? No one has ever forced these athletes to play. Why would that start now? Anyone that does not feel comfortable going out into the world should shelter in place for as long as they see fit. This is a free country, or used to be.

Todd4State
04-18-2020, 12:52 PM
This is going to happen. The fear irrational mongering will subside soon enough.

Oh the fear mongering will be strong for awhile whether it's necessary or not. I agree that people will be able to go if they choose to do so.


Does this apply to the student athletes too? What about marching band, cheerleaders, stadium staff, etc.?

The concessions people have been sheltering in place since USM last season.**

They can play football without the cheerleaders and band if it came down to it. I don't think it will come to that. If you're that worried about COVID as a band member that piddly band scholarship that covers books wouldn't be too bad to give up.

somebodyshotmypaw
04-18-2020, 01:09 PM
Does this apply to the student athletes too? What about marching band, cheerleaders, stadium staff, etc.?

Is this a joke? Nobody is a slave. Nobody is forced to do anything. If a player doesn't want to play, then they don't have to. Fabian Lovett didn't want to play here so he left. Promise Taylor didn't want to play at all so she quit. People that don't feel comfortable playing can relinquish their scholarship and go do something else. They have the freedom to make that individual choice. Uncomfortable being a stadium staffer because of crowds? Then get a job mowing yards so you aren't around a bunch of folks. I can't believe people think it's complicated.

Jarius
04-18-2020, 01:14 PM
Oh the fear mongering will be strong for awhile whether it's necessary or not. I agree that people will be able to go if they choose to do so.



The concessions people have been sheltering in place since USM last season.**

They can play football without the cheerleaders and band if it came down to it. I don't think it will come to that. If you're that worried about COVID as a band member that piddly band scholarship that covers books wouldn't be too bad to give up.

I should rephrase. The media will push this fear mongering once we open back up because they are going to do that no matter what the president does, but people will largely stop paying attention to the fear mongering once we open the world back up and it doesn’t turn into the walking dead like the media will try to portray. Our citizens have the attention span of a goldfish. People aren’t going to accept this for another few weeks, much less 5 months.

Commercecomet24
04-18-2020, 02:09 PM
I should rephrase. The media will push this fear mongering once we open back up because they are going to do that no matter what the president does, but people will largely stop paying attention to the fear mongering once we open the world back up and it doesn’t turn into the walking dead like the media will try to portray. Our citizens have the attention span of a goldfish. People aren’t going to accept this for another few weeks, much less 5 months.

This pretty much sums it up.

RocketDawg
04-18-2020, 04:46 PM
This is on the premise that full stadiums won't be allowed. If that's the case they will have to refund season tickets regardless. In a partial capacity scenario they would just prioritize based on Bulldog Club points and redo seats for 2020 only, then go back to normal in 2021.

In fact, even if they do allow full stadiums, I suspect the University will refund anyone that doesn't feel comfortable attending games this year. I imagine there would be a pretty big backlash if we didn't do that.

Again, this is a contingency discussion. I'm hopeful it's a non-issue.

That's probably at least the starting point, but would we wind up like men's basketball where the big donors had tickets but didn't go to the games?

ScooterDog
04-18-2020, 05:32 PM
I have read where sunshine (and high humidity) kills the virus. What better place to have hot sunshine and high humidity than Davis Wade the first few weeks in Sept. I'm trying to be positive and finding something to look forward to. It just might happen. Masks & individual seat spacing might be in order, but just maybe the sun might save us. Your thoughts?

RocketDawg
04-18-2020, 05:58 PM
I have read where sunshine (and high humidity) kills the virus. What better place to have hot sunshine and high humidity than Davis Wade the first few weeks in Sept. I'm trying to be positive and finding something to look forward to. It just might happen. Masks & individual seat spacing might be in order, but just maybe the sun might save us. Your thoughts?

Dunno. There seems to be plenty of cases along and either side of the equator, where it's hot and humid year around. There don't seem to be that many in equatorial Africa, but then there's not much testing there either.

I heard of one case a few days ago about a guy from one of the non-social tribes in the Amazon that got the disease. Gotta wonder how he got it, and if they shun contact with the outside world, how do we even know about it? That particular case sounds a little contradictory.

But back to your idea - it's hard to see how anything could handle the heat and humidity of Davis Wade in late August - September. Go to the concession stand and your hot dog is spoiled before you get back to your seat ....

coachnorm
04-18-2020, 06:24 PM
I see that golf and tennis globally have shut down for the year. I wonder if the WEALTHY know something? That is why I am hopeful but not confident.

RocketDawg
04-18-2020, 06:47 PM
I see that golf and tennis globally have shut down for the year. I wonder if the WEALTHY know something? That is why I am hopeful but not confident.

The PGA has tournaments scheduled to start in June, sans spectators. The Masters is scheduled for November, presumably with spectators ("patrons"). So at the moment, not shut for the year.

Many states, most I think, have allowed golf courses to remain open, with some differences (one-person carts, cups with foam in them to make the ball easier to retrieve, etc.).

Lord McBuckethead
04-18-2020, 07:09 PM
Government is talking about sports venues opening in phase one.

Sorry media!

The government doesn't control when the stadiums open back up. They can definitely stromgly suggest to close them down, but I don't think they could force universities to open them up.

Also note, most people that make decisions for universities are overly careful. Because given a hugely bad decision could spell the end of their administrative career.

Even if they do have games, fans will not be allowed to attend. If we had a vaccine, yes. If we had herd immunity, then yes. But without one ofbthose two, thousands of fans withing 2 inches of each other would be terrible. Universities probably will not take that liability.

I say the same thing I jave been saying for weeks, it isn't happening with fans.

Jacksondevildog
04-18-2020, 07:09 PM
This post made me spit my drink laughing. So, so true.


Oh the fear mongering will be strong for awhile whether it's necessary or not. I agree that people will be able to go if they choose to do so.



The concessions people have been sheltering in place since USM last season.**

They can play football without the cheerleaders and band if it came down to it. I don't think it will come to that. If you're that worried about COVID as a band member that piddly band scholarship that covers books wouldn't be too bad to give up.

Lord McBuckethead
04-18-2020, 07:11 PM
I think they could. But when football season comes around I don't think they'll have to.

I would take that bet. I believe the chance we even have college football this calender year is slim. For fans, I say around 2% chance.

Lord McBuckethead
04-18-2020, 07:16 PM
You guys act like students will be back in the fall. Not a certainty.

Todd4State
04-18-2020, 09:50 PM
The government doesn't control when the stadiums open back up. They can definitely stromgly suggest to close them down, but I don't think they could force universities to open them up.

Also note, most people that make decisions for universities are overly careful. Because given a hugely bad decision could spell the end of their administrative career.

Even if they do have games, fans will not be allowed to attend. If we had a vaccine, yes. If we had herd immunity, then yes. But without one ofbthose two, thousands of fans withing 2 inches of each other would be terrible. Universities probably will not take that liability.

I say the same thing I jave been saying for weeks, it isn't happening with fans.

I feel VERY confident that we will have immunity by then. States are going to be starting phase one soon.

fishwater99
04-20-2020, 01:38 PM
You guys act like students will be back in the fall. Not a certainty.

Agreed, no football is no students on campus. Also some states may have students on campus and other states may not.