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Homedawg
08-19-2020, 11:47 AM
But not over 200. Big difference. It was a huge party.

i disagree. If 40 people are in a place that can handle 10 thats worse than 1000 people in a place that can handle a 1000. And those thousand are going to find a place to go congregate, somewhere.

softballfanatic1
08-19-2020, 12:37 PM
1348 new cases today

msstate7
08-19-2020, 12:44 PM
1348 new cases today

Well that's not good... most since July 30th. I'm not gonna freak out about it though considering the really low reports on Sunday and Monday.

Dolphus Raymond
08-19-2020, 12:46 PM
Yep, cases jumped dramatically today. This fall/winter is going to be challenging. I hope today?s number is not the start of a renewed upward trend. Time will tell.

Dawgology
08-19-2020, 12:51 PM
1348 new cases today

It is 100% unavoidable with a new population being formed when colleges and schools start back. It...will...happen. After about 4-8 weeks the numbers will spike downward again once they hit 20% - 25% infection rate. Also, there will be far fewer deaths and hospitalizations with this spike due to the age range that will be most impacted (10 - 25 yoa).

Cooterpoot
08-19-2020, 12:59 PM
i disagree. If 40 people are in a place that can handle 10 thats worse than 1000 people in a place that can handle a 1000. And those thousand are going to find a place to go congregate, somewhere.

But there's no proof or guarantee any of those people would've gone somewhere else to party. Without the sorority sponsoring the party and without members, I'd take my chances it would be considerably less.

BrunswickDawg
08-19-2020, 01:01 PM
https://mises.org/wire/why-americans-should-adopt-sweden-model-covid-19

Mises Institute. Woo boy, that's one of the wackiest groups I've ever had the pleasure of providing programming for.

Dolphus Raymond
08-19-2020, 01:02 PM
Double post.

Homedawg
08-19-2020, 01:19 PM
But there's no proof or guarantee any of those people would've gone somewhere else to party. Without the sorority sponsoring the party and without members, I'd take my chances it would be considerably less.

I'm talking about what's going on here!! Right now!! You can find huge groups together whenever.

Jack Lambert
08-19-2020, 02:08 PM
Yep, cases jumped dramatically today. This fall/winter is going to be challenging. I hope today?s number is not the start of a renewed upward trend. Time will tell.

Eventually it will run out of host and die.

WinningIsRelentless
08-19-2020, 02:15 PM
It is 100% unavoidable with a new population being formed when colleges and schools start back. It...will...happen. After about 4-8 weeks the numbers will spike downward again once they hit 20% - 25% infection rate. Also, there will be far fewer deaths and hospitalizations with this spike due to the age range that will be most impacted (10 - 25 yoa).

I do believe that?s the same response people were using back in July when numbers started to spike. Spikes are going to lead to spikes in death with this deal.

Johnson85
08-19-2020, 02:45 PM
But there's no proof or guarantee any of those people would've gone somewhere else to party. Without the sorority sponsoring the party and without members, I'd take my chances it would be considerably less.

I think college students partying is about as guaranteed as anything you can think of in life. You could probably model how much better 10 apartment parties with 20 people is than 1 fraternity party with 225 based on how many people were likely to have it in the population and I'm sure it would make some difference. But I'm not sure it would be a big one.

Homedawg
08-19-2020, 04:29 PM
Oktibbeha county w more than 75 cases in less than a week, shocked**** good news is state hospitalizations are at a low for the past month i believe.

Dawgology
08-19-2020, 05:36 PM
I do believe that?s the same response people were using back in July when numbers started to spike. Spikes are going to lead to spikes in death with this deal.

You are correct and peep the numbers over the past 18 days...numbers in MS have been falling dramatically. Now, we have created a brand new population for the virus to run through with college and pre-college (highschool/elementary) kids coming together for the first time. Fortunately, that age range equates to less than .08% of the mortality rate for this thing and most of those were immunocompromised and it caught them early in the pandemic. This is why I said that this new population will result in fewer hospitalizations and deaths (within that age group). The danger is that age group bringing to others that are in a more at risk population.

With that said, the at risk population has already been hit pretty hard and achieved some level of immunity.

Johnson85
08-20-2020, 11:58 AM
894 new cases yesterday. Think that's a good bit higher than last Wednesday's numbers but not positive. Thinking last Wednesday's numbers were in the high 600's?

REally wish MSDH would publish just reported numbers each day also so we can see a trend there as well as tracking it by date of first symptoms. Worldometer does this but I don't think they are using MSDH numbers.

WinningIsRelentless
08-20-2020, 12:09 PM
894 new cases yesterday. Think that's a good bit higher than last Wednesday's numbers but not positive. Thinking last Wednesday's numbers were in the high 600's?

REally wish MSDH would publish just reported numbers each day also so we can see a trend there as well as tracking it by date of first symptoms. Worldometer does this but I don't think they are using MSDH numbers.

Last Thursday number was 612.

MaroonFlounder
08-20-2020, 12:46 PM
I just heard that a bunch of girls from the "W" came to Starkvegas, hit the Cotton District and sparked a rash of Covid-positive cases among MSU students.

Can anyone confirm?

StarkVegasSteve
08-20-2020, 12:53 PM
I just heard that a bunch of girls from the "W" came to Starkvegas, hit the Cotton District and sparked a rash of Covid-positive cases among MSU students.

Can anyone confirm?

It wouldn't shock me in the least bit. But at the same time, who tf cares? Students are going to get it because the average college student doesn't give one flying 17 about this virus and isn't going to let it stop them from going out and having fun. We can't expect college age kids to sit inside and do nothing for the next 8-12 months. It's not going to happen and I don't blame them. Saying all that, I have noticed most bars in the district adhering to the social distancing and mask guidelines so that probably helps a bit in this type of situation. Now, if those girls knowingly had the virus and purposefully went and spread it then that's pretty sh**** but the virus has been floating around the district for months I'd imagine so it'd be no real way of knowing how someone got it.

Mjoelner34
08-20-2020, 01:02 PM
It wouldn't shock me in the least bit. But at the same time, who tf cares? Students are going to get it because the average college student doesn't give one flying 17 about this virus and isn't going to let it stop them from going out and having fun. We can't expect college age kids to sit inside and do nothing for the next 8-12 months. It's not going to happen and I don't blame them.

Yep. MSU abruptly and without warning to them pulled all of the interns from my place of work 2 weeks before their summer internship was up so they could quarantine. The students got a call one Thursday morning from MSU that said today is your last day. I asked the guy in our department if he was going to quarantine and he said "Yep. At every bar in town."

StarkVegasSteve
08-20-2020, 01:09 PM
Yep. MSU abruptly and without warning to them pulled all of the interns from my place of work 2 weeks before their summer internship was up so they could quarantine. The students got a call one Thursday morning from MSU that said today is your last day. I asked the guy in our department if he was going to quarantine and he said "Yep. At every bar in town."

MSU had good intentions with the whole quarantine two weeks before returning thing, but they had to know that wouldn't work. And even if it happened to, it would all go to hell within the first week.

Johnson85
08-20-2020, 01:55 PM
It wouldn't shock me in the least bit. But at the same time, who tf cares? Students are going to get it because the average college student doesn't give one flying 17 about this virus and isn't going to let it stop them from going out and having fun. We can't expect college age kids to sit inside and do nothing for the next 8-12 months. It's not going to happen and I don't blame them. Saying all that, I have noticed most bars in the district adhering to the social distancing and mask guidelines so that probably helps a bit in this type of situation. Now, if those girls knowingly had the virus and purposefully went and spread it then that's pretty sh**** but the virus has been floating around the district for months I'd imagine so it'd be no real way of knowing how someone got it.

Not only do I not blame them for not holing up, they really shouldn't. They are at basically zero risk from the virus a shouldn't sacrifice a year of college for it. They just need to live their life and avoid at risk people the best they can and social distance when not around other low risk people who are voluntarily socializing. .

StarkVegasSteve
08-20-2020, 03:08 PM
Not only do I not blame them for not holing up, they really shouldn't. They are at basically zero risk from the virus a shouldn't sacrifice a year of college for it. They just need to live their life and avoid at risk people the best they can and social distance when not around other low risk people who are voluntarily socializing. .

I think this will be a year where a lot of kids don't go home but once or twice a semester to limit risk, which might end up being beneficial to the restaurants and bars in Starkville when/if they're able to open back up.

BrunswickDawg
08-20-2020, 03:19 PM
I think this will be a year where a lot of kids don't go home but once or twice a semester to limit risk, which might end up being beneficial to the restaurants and bars in Starkville when/if they're able to open back up.

The university is actively encouraging kids not to go home during the semester. That is one of the reasons they shortened the academic calendar, cut fall break, and will end everything before Thanksgiving.
So, you are right that that might add some additional weekend business.

msstate7
08-21-2020, 08:55 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/4xMxKL1S/2-AB3300-F-0-FEA-4-ABD-B2-C2-E7-E1-C7767923.jpg (https://postimg.cc/pmfH4B4f)

https://twitter.com/davidbcollum/status/1296780056673624069?s=21

msstate7
08-21-2020, 09:18 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/4xMxKL1S/2-AB3300-F-0-FEA-4-ABD-B2-C2-E7-E1-C7767923.jpg (https://postimg.cc/pmfH4B4f)

https://twitter.com/davidbcollum/status/1296780056673624069?s=21

According to worldometers this isn't correct. On worldometers though, the deaths are around 20... may have missed or double counted a day. This is still an outstanding total.

Homedawg
08-21-2020, 09:40 AM
According to worldometers this isn't correct. On worldometers though, the deaths are around 20... may have missed or double counted a day. This is still an outstanding total.

Can't be correct. You have to lock up for months. Have the govt take over and deliver you your groceries....

dantheman4248
08-21-2020, 09:47 AM
Can't be correct. You have to lock up for months. Have the govt take over and deliver you your groceries....

Lmfao who pissed in your cornflakes. Football isn't cancelled yet.

Gutter Cobreh
08-21-2020, 01:25 PM
Anybody heard anything on this drug before?

https://www.trialsitenews.com/rlf-100-aviptadil-associated-with-rapid-respiratory-failure-recovery-among-covid-19-patients/

Everyone may want to research this drug that Starkvegasdawg posted about a couple weeks ago. This drug has shown phenomenal results at Methodist in Houston on the sickest of sick patients diagnosed with COVID.

There is a firefighter in Houston currently being treated at Memorial Hermann who was on his death bed; they fought through the red tape to get him this experimental drug earlier this week and his numbers are showing some improvement.

If this drug works like the research is starting to show, it could be huge for those hit hardest by this virus.

yjnkdawg
08-21-2020, 03:16 PM
I wish I knew how to post a Tweet on ED. :(



It's easy..here ya go
To post tweet. click the twitter bird icon on your reply. post the link in the middle of the words twitter...OR post your link..highlight it. press the twitter bird button. easy peasy. -scooba
https://twitter.com/MSMA1/status/1296896127313248256

Homedawg
08-21-2020, 03:33 PM
Hospitalizations on a good downward trend

Cooterpoot
08-21-2020, 04:48 PM
Annnnnd a couple Greek life groups at State have now been hit hard with Covid. Should all be shut down til Covid is over.

SheltonChoked
08-21-2020, 04:55 PM
Not only do I not blame them for not holing up, they really shouldn't. They are at basically zero risk from the virus a shouldn't sacrifice a year of college for it. They just need to live their life and avoid at risk people the best they can and social distance when not around other low risk people who are voluntarily socializing. .

And that's how my parent neighbor died.

He got it from his granddaughter. She is in elementary school and she was the only other one in the family with a positive test when he showed symptoms.

He died 3 weeks later.

I'm sure she is too young to know she killed him. College students are smarter than that...

Homedawg
08-21-2020, 05:00 PM
Annnnnd a couple Greek life groups at State have now been hit hard with Covid. Should all be shut down til Covid is over.

There are gonna be in good shape in a month. Greek life ain't the problem. College people are gonna do college. Period....

Homedawg
08-21-2020, 05:00 PM
And that's how my parent neighbor died.

He got it from his granddaughter. She is in elementary school and she was the only other one in the family with a positive test when he showed symptoms.

He died 3 weeks later.

I'm sure she is too young to know she killed him. College students are smarter than that...

Well they won't be at home. They'll be at college.

Homedawg
08-21-2020, 05:03 PM
Annnnnd a couple Greek life groups at State have now been hit hard with Covid. Should all be shut down til Covid is over.

So you want to shut college down til Covid is "over" so cancel college forever. Gotcha. And I'm not saying Greek is all college but gonna be and are lots of non Greek cases. They just can't be labeled like Greeks or athletes. Is what it is.

Cooterpoot
08-21-2020, 05:07 PM
There are gonna be in good shape in a month. Greek life ain't the problem. College people are gonna do college. Period....

Large outbreaks aren't happening outside of people involved in these. Every campus that's been hit, has seen it. And for the record, I was in a fraternity. It was all about the party then too.

Homedawg
08-21-2020, 05:15 PM
Large outbreaks aren't happening outside of people involved in these. Every campus that's been hit, has seen it. And for the record, I was in a fraternity. It was all about the party then too.

I'm not arguing that there are large outbreaks. And to say large outbreaks are t happening is just Bc they haven't been reported or haven't had time yet. Sororities have been on campus longer Bc of rush....But the sorority that I know about is Bc of they all live in the house. How do you know we don't have an outbreak in a dorm or won't?? Just think blaming it on one faction isn't right. And as I said, they will be the ones that are clear sooner than everyone else too.

Cooterpoot
08-21-2020, 05:16 PM
https://www.al.com/news/2020/08/new-restrictions-coming-alabama-campus-amid-covid-concerns.html
AL already taking action.

Cooterpoot
08-21-2020, 05:17 PM
I'm not arguing that there are large outbreaks. And to say large outbreaks are t happening is just Bc they haven't been reported or haven't had time yet. Sororities have been on campus longer Bc of rush....But the sorority that I know about is Bc of they all live in the house. How do you know we don't have an outbreak in a dorm or won't?? Just think blaming it on one faction isn't right. And as I said, they will be the ones that are clear sooner than everyone else too.

Outbreaks are reported to the state. We know when they occur.

Homedawg
08-21-2020, 06:19 PM
Outbreaks are reported to the state. We know when they occur.

An outbreak is more than 3. You gonna report them all? Come on man. Be real.

Jack Lambert
08-21-2020, 09:12 PM
Outbreaks are reported to the state. We know when they occur.

I got an email from Brandon High School and they had one kid test positive. He tested last week.

DownwardDawg
08-21-2020, 10:25 PM
And that's how my parent neighbor died.

He got it from his granddaughter. She is in elementary school and she was the only other one in the family with a positive test when he showed symptoms.

He died 3 weeks later.

I'm sure she is too young to know she killed him. College students are smarter than that...

This is what scares me. I beg my kids and son in law to do the right thing. My granddaughter is 6. Lives next door. I'm not staying away from her. Not at all. Hugs, kisses, falls asleep in my recliner with me watching tv. I'm in pretty good shape but Ive battles prostate cancer, have allergy induced asthma. Etc.... just the crap that comes with getting old. But I work all day outside in the heat when I'm home, sweat down changing shirts 3-4 times a day. Point is, I'm 53 and not in perfect health but I'm extremely active. If I catch this virus it may it will be from family. I just hope it doesn't kill me.
If I had a kid in college I would send them to school but make them stay their ass at school!! Don't bring it to me!!

Jack Lambert
08-22-2020, 12:15 PM
This is what scares me. I beg my kids and son in law to do the right thing. My granddaughter is 6. Lives next door. I'm not staying away from her. Not at all. Hugs, kisses, falls asleep in my recliner with me watching tv. I'm in pretty good shape but Ive battles prostate cancer, have allergy induced asthma. Etc.... just the crap that comes with getting old. But I work all day outside in the heat when I'm home, sweat down changing shirts 3-4 times a day. Point is, I'm 53 and not in perfect health but I'm extremely active. If I catch this virus it may it will be from family. I just hope it doesn't kill me.
If I had a kid in college I would send them to school but make them stay their ass at school!! Don't bring it to me!!

I believe that exercising and eating healthy is your Kryptonite against the virus. I am 56 and have a daughter in 9th grade and son in the 10th. I am not worried about the virus. I have always taken care of my self. I am in really good shape and never been sick but I believe everyone can build a wall against the virus it they would just eat healthy, eat immune boosting food and exercise. I lift weights 4 to 5 times a week and walk 3 to 4 miles four nights a week.

DownwardDawg
08-22-2020, 02:29 PM
I believe that exercising and eating healthy is your Kryptonite against the virus. I am 56 and have a daughter in 9th grade and son in the 10th. I am not worried about the virus. I have always taken care of my self. I am in really good shape and never been sick but I believe everyone can build a wall against the virus it they would just eat healthy, eat immune boosting food and exercise. I lift weights 4 to 5 times a week and walk 3 to 4 miles four nights a week.

I definitely think it helped me battle prostate cancer. My story is much better than some of the other men I know that has went through the battle. It's almost as if it didn't happen other than all the testing I have to do. Obviously it's a lifelong battle that could come back at anytime but I truly believe my health has helped me kick its ass so far.

HRTFXR
08-22-2020, 02:40 PM
I believe that exercising and eating healthy is your Kryptonite against the virus. I am 56 and have a daughter in 9th grade and son in the 10th. I am not worried about the virus. I have always taken care of my self. I am in really good shape and never been sick but I believe everyone can build a wall against the virus it they would just eat healthy, eat immune boosting food and exercise. I lift weights 4 to 5 times a week and walk 3 to 4 miles four nights a week.

You are unfortunately mistaken. I share similar characteristics to you, but am younger. I am writing this post from a hospital bed.

DownwardDawg
08-22-2020, 03:12 PM
You are unfortunately mistaken. I share similar characteristics to you, but am younger. I am writing this post from a hospital bed.

Well damn. Hope you get better quick.

RocketDawg
08-22-2020, 07:26 PM
Just got an email from my family doctor. It was quite extensive, but the bottom line is that he's done extensive research into the usefullness of hyroxychloroquine with zinc, and also something called Quercitin and zinc. He recommends taking those drugs, in safe amounts, as a Covid preventive (along with regular measures like wearing a mask, washing hands, and using gloves when appropriate). It might be worth looking into.

99jc
08-22-2020, 07:38 PM
dang i need to stay away from this thread...or i may get deployed again

DownwardDawg
08-22-2020, 08:09 PM
Just got an email from my family doctor. It was quite extensive, but the bottom line is that he's done extensive research into the usefullness of hyroxychloroquine with zinc, and also something called Quercitin and zinc. He recommends taking those drugs, in safe amounts, as a Covid preventive (along with regular measures like wearing a mask, washing hands, and using gloves when appropriate). It might be worth looking into.

Yes, regardless of what you hear in main stream media there are tons of doctors still using the hydroxychloroquine as part of treatment.

msstate7
08-22-2020, 08:47 PM
Yes, regardless of what you hear in main stream media there are tons of doctors still using the hydroxychloroquine as part of treatment.

My dad's doctor prescribed it to him. My dad didn't have a severe case, but no idea if HCQ had anything to do with it.

Jack Lambert
08-22-2020, 11:24 PM
You are unfortunately mistaken. I share similar characteristics to you, but am younger. I am writing this post from a hospital bed.

All the research I have done says exercise help fights off the virus. Sorry that you are sick. My brother got put into ICU for five days from the virus no ventilator. . He is 150 pounds overweight, had prostate cancer that spread to his back bone. He is home doing well. He should not have survived but he did. I am still an believer in eating healthy and exercise to fight off the virus. Don't know your religious beliefs but I will say a prayer for you. I personally believe that is what saved my brother. Also by the way there is a doctor in the hospital in Starkville that has a lot of success with the treatment of the virus. That is why my brother went there. It paid off.

Jack Lambert
08-22-2020, 11:25 PM
Yes, regardless of what you hear in main stream media there are tons of doctors still using the hydroxychloroquine as part of treatment.

If Trump had not come out in favor of it, the drug would have probably been more positivity advertised.

Joebob
08-23-2020, 11:57 AM
There's an article on USA Today about a family that lost a father and a son to Covid on the same day. For any of the people on this thread that had this virus and survived it, it'll make you appreciate how lucky you were.

msstate7
08-23-2020, 04:17 PM
On July 25th, the US 7-day avg of cases was 69,330, which was the peak. Yesterday, the 7-day avg of cases was 43,487, down 37.3%.

confucius say
08-23-2020, 06:59 PM
Best friends dad got it 11 days ago. On day 8 he was struggling. Started the hydroxy. Doing better now. May be a coincidence. Just reporting what happened.

softballfanatic1
08-23-2020, 07:53 PM
And that's how my parent neighbor died.

He got it from his granddaughter. She is in elementary school and she was the only other one in the family with a positive test when he showed symptoms.

He died 3 weeks later.

I'm sure she is too young to know she killed him. College students are smarter than that...

Come on drama queen! The little girl didn?t kill her papaw. Yes, the virus is deadly. The virus killed him, she unknowingly was the vector. Geez. And you cannot prove without a shadow of a doubt that papaw got it from her.

State82
08-23-2020, 08:02 PM
Come on drama queen! The little girl didn?t kill her papaw. Yes, the virus is deadly. The virus killed him, she unknowingly was the vector. Geez. And you cannot prove without a shadow of a doubt that papaw got it from her.

Yes. That was way over the top and completely crass and uncalled for. To say that child "killed" her grandfather is as insensitive and complete bullshit statement as I have seen on this thread. And there have been plenty of those statements but this was off the charts stupid.

softballfanatic1
08-23-2020, 08:12 PM
Yes. That was way over the top and completely crass and uncalled for. To say that child "killed" her grandfather is as insensitive and complete bullshit statement as I have seen on this thread. And there have been plenty of those statements but this was off the charts stupid.


Amen!

Jarius
08-23-2020, 09:59 PM
If the Elementary school children were not in school they would probably be in daycare in most cases which is the same thing. Parents have to work. You can’t just shut down schools. It makes no sense considering they will be around large groups at daycare anyway in most cases.

chef dixon
08-23-2020, 10:02 PM
Just got an email from my family doctor. It was quite extensive, but the bottom line is that he's done extensive research into the usefullness of hyroxychloroquine with zinc, and also something called Quercitin and zinc. He recommends taking those drugs, in safe amounts, as a Covid preventive (along with regular measures like wearing a mask, washing hands, and using gloves when appropriate). It might be worth looking into.

He's taking a chance and shooting from the hip to a degree. It doesn't make it "wrong" that he recommends that. Medicine is constantly evolving and sometimes doctors have to take educated chances in the face of uncertainty. People just need to understand that the type of evidence that has established the treatment guidelines for just about every disease out there does not exist for any COVID19 therapies right now. It kind of baffles me that some physicians are easily abandoning the fundamentals of evidence based medicine during this pandemic, but unfortunately politics are clouding a lot of this situation for everyone. Again, as long as your doctor is being honest that he believes, in his best estimation, it "may" help then it really doesn't make his practice wrong. Now if strong studies continue to come out to show no benefit or even harm, then it will be.

softballfanatic1
08-23-2020, 10:07 PM
So you want to cancel someone else? Is this the cancel culture I've been hearing about?

And I said ban ME! Not him. Reading is hard for liberal leftist commies I guess.

ScoobaDawg
08-24-2020, 03:43 AM
And I said ban ME! Not him. Reading is hard for liberal leftist commies I guess.

Your wish is granted. Come back when we kick off football..
Same to You Dantheman and Downwarddawg.

I made it clear. No Politics...

Cooterpoot
08-24-2020, 04:03 AM
There's an article on USA Today about a family that lost a father and a son to Covid on the same day. For any of the people on this thread that had this virus and survived it, it'll make you appreciate how lucky you were.

Well, over 99% of the people who get survive, so lucky isn't the word I'd use unless you're over 65.

Cooterpoot
08-24-2020, 04:04 AM
Your wish is granted. Come back when we kick off football..
Same to You Dantheman and Downwarddawg.

I made it clear. No Politics...

Lawd

msstate7
08-24-2020, 08:28 AM
NFL has 77 apparently false positive coronavirus tests from lab

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/08/24/nfl-has-77-apparently-false-positive-coronavirus-tests-from-lab/?outputType=amp

....

This is an alarming number. If you have that number of false positives among a relatively small sample size, imagine a sample size of the US, 76+ million tests so far.

Liverpooldawg
08-24-2020, 08:58 AM
Just got an email from my family doctor. It was quite extensive, but the bottom line is that he's done extensive research into the usefullness of hyroxychloroquine with zinc, and also something called Quercitin and zinc. He recommends taking those drugs, in safe amounts, as a Covid preventive (along with regular measures like wearing a mask, washing hands, and using gloves when appropriate). It might be worth looking into.

Data please.

Liverpooldawg
08-24-2020, 09:01 AM
Best friends dad got it 11 days ago. On day 8 he was struggling. Started the hydroxy. Doing better now. May be a coincidence. Just reporting what happened.

If you read the real stuff day around day 7-8 these cases usually take a turn, for better or worse, no matter what is done.

Gutter Cobreh
08-24-2020, 09:24 AM
NFL has 77 apparently false positive coronavirus tests from lab

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/08/24/nfl-has-77-apparently-false-positive-coronavirus-tests-from-lab/?outputType=amp

....

This is an alarming number. If you have that number of false positives among a relatively small sample size, imagine a sample size of the US, 76+ million tests so far.

Does this mean you'll stop posting case numbers as if they were gospel moving forward?

I realize that is all we have to go off of, but this only reinforces that even after months of this virus coming to light - there are still MAJOR flaws in the detection.

msstate7
08-24-2020, 09:44 AM
Does this mean you'll stop posting case numbers as if they were gospel moving forward?

I realize that is all we have to go off of, but this only reinforces that even after months of this virus coming to light - there are still MAJOR flaws in the detection.

I'll just assume the false positives rate is fairly consistent, so case numbers are still fair to gauge how things are going.

If false positives are rampant, I imagine this inflates deaths too considering the age of most deaths.

Cooterpoot
08-24-2020, 10:02 AM
NFL has 77 apparently false positive coronavirus tests from lab

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/08/24/nfl-has-77-apparently-false-positive-coronavirus-tests-from-lab/?outputType=amp

....

This is an alarming number. If you have that number of false positives among a relatively small sample size, imagine a sample size of the US, 76+ million tests so far.

I've been telling everyone this since June. The quick tests are 50/50 at best. Our poor testing is the single greatest issue with all this. It's also why herd immunity is nowhere close.

Matt3467
08-24-2020, 11:02 AM
I looked up the avg age of death for someone living in the US and it was around 78.54. Then I tried to find up to date data on the average age of COVID death and that wasn't nearly as easy. We know that the older generations are at higher risk but finding an average age of death required some work.

Massachusetts had the simplest chart of those I've encountered so far and it had listed the avg age of COVID death in their state at 82. The average life expectancy for those living in Massachusetts is 80.51.

Mississippi was one of the worst as far as avg age goes but I wasn't able to calculate it accurately as their chart only listed age ranges for deaths and for some reason did not list the number of COVID deaths for those over 90 even though the bar graph shows there are some. So I calculated the lower range and the higher range for avg age of death and they came out 65.4 and 74.42 respectively. Obviously the more accurate number would be toward the higher end but unfortunately I was unable to figure that out based on the set of data given (also don't forget that I was unable to gather the number of deaths in those over 90 so the numbers should be somewhat higher). Mississippi has the second lowest life expectancy of any state and it sits at 74.89. Here's a chart from the CDC detailing MS as one of, if not the most unhealthy states: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/mississippi/mississippi.htm

Arkansas was frustrating because it did not list numbers of any kind for deaths in age ranges but instead listed percentages which renders it impossible to calculate the avg age of death related to COVID. AR currently sits at 687 deaths.The closest I could find is that 71% of those deaths are in the 65+ age group so go figure. The avg life expectancy for an Arkansan is 75.93.

Tennessee was similar to MS in that they only listed age ranges for COVID deaths but then lumped all deaths past 81 into a 81+ group so again numbers are ball park but not entirely accurate as they're most likely higher than what I have listed. The avg of COVID death on the low end for TN is 67.3 while at the higher end is 73.4. Average life expectancy in TN is 75.99.

Alabama is the exact same situation as AR. Total number of deaths are 1,944 and 77.8% of those are 65+ so go figure. Avg life expectancy in AL is 75.42.

Louisiana listed the avg age of COVID death at 75. The avg life expectancy in LA is 76.07. LA is probably one of the better case studies thus far as it has the highest number of cases and deaths among those listed already (CA and NY come later). There are a total of 142,943 cases in LA and deaths are sitting at 4,605.

Kentucky, same breakdown as TN, high end for avg age of COVID death is 75.61 and low end is 71. Avg life expectancy in KY is 75.41.

Oklahoma, same breakdown as AR, total number of COVID deaths are 726 and 79.06% of those are 65+. Avg life expectancy in OK is 75.97.

West Virginia did not list a breakdown of deaths per age range anywhere I could find. Total number of COVID deaths in WV currently sits at 179. I was curious about WV as they have the lowest life expectancy out of all the states. Life expectancy in WV is 74.79.

Missouri, same breakdown as TN, high end for avg COVID death is 75.56 and low end is 71.1. Avg life expectancy is 77.29.

New York, same breakdown as TN except they add a 90+ category. High end for deaths is 77.5 and low end is 69.8. Avg life expectancy in NY is 81.27.

California, same breakdown as TN, high end for avg COVID death is 73.14 and low end is 67.5. Avg life expectancy in CA is 81.58.

If you can find a website with better, more specific breakdowns please let me know. I'd like to do this with all 50 states and get a total avg for age of death with COVID and compare it to the nations life expectancy of 78.54. I wasn't able to find any current data that relayed that information and even if I continued with this data set it would only be ballpark as it's impossible to find the specific numbers needed for all 50 states as you can see above. I'd wager that the avg age for a COVID death isn't far off from the avg age of death. In some states the former even surpasses the latter. It'd be an interesting study for sure.

Sources:
https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-dashboard-august-10-2020/download
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html
https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov/data.html
https://alpublichealth.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/6d2771faa9da4a2786a509d82c8cf0f7
https://ldh.la.gov/Coronavirus/
https://kygeonet.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/543ac64bc40445918cf8bc34dc40e334
https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/
https://dhhr.wv.gov/COVID-19/Pages/default.aspx
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/novel-coronavirus/
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/home
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/Immunization/nCOV2019.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_life_expect ancy

StateDawg44
08-24-2020, 12:06 PM
I've been telling everyone this since June. The quick tests are 50/50 at best. Our poor testing is the single greatest issue with all this. It's also why herd immunity is nowhere close.

They've also only been tracking it since March. What about the numbers before then?

Gutter Cobreh
08-24-2020, 02:02 PM
I'll just assume the false positives rate is fairly consistent, so case numbers are still fair to gauge how things are going.

If false positives are rampant, I imagine this inflates deaths too considering the age of most deaths.

You know what they say about "assume". This is why when the POTUS continued to harp on how well we've done with testing compared to other countries, it was a sham.

Deaths have spiked compared to previous years, so that can be contributed to the virus. Everything else is up for interpretation without any conclusive data to pull from.

Dawgology
08-24-2020, 02:06 PM
You know what they say about "assume". This is why when the POTUS continued to harp on how well we've done with testing compared to other countries, it was a sham.

Deaths have spiked compared to previous years, so that can be contributed to the virus. Everything else is up for interpretation without any conclusive data to pull from.

You are assuming there as well. Correlation doesn't equal causation. Murder rates are up almost 22% this year.

Gutter Cobreh
08-25-2020, 07:58 AM
You are assuming there as well. Correlation doesn't equal causation. Murder rates are up almost 22% this year.

So, correlation doesn't equal causation - yet you use murder rates to justify the spike in mortality.... That's rich!!!

msstate7
08-25-2020, 08:18 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/G3F36wPk/A18-CA59-F-BE75-4250-9-DD8-521832-A83-DBA.jpg (https://postimg.cc/vDmd6KNB)

https://i.postimg.cc/x1yKd4SH/D4-B1-A0-AA-B58-F-47-DE-A500-02-B2-C69-B8767.jpg (https://postimg.cc/mPkcXVk2)

Cooterpoot
08-25-2020, 08:47 AM
This new saliva test should solve a lot of testing issues. I blame American science and companies for dragging their feet on better testing.

Dawgology
08-25-2020, 09:07 AM
So, correlation doesn't equal causation - yet you use murder rates to justify the spike in mortality.... That's rich!!!

Absolutely not. I was just pointing out that there are a lot of factors that can contribute to an increase in mortality during any given year. You (once again) assumed that was what I was stating. I was simply pointing out that you can't just randomly attribute any death over the yearly average to a new disease. That's silly. That's terrible statistical work and even worse science. Any news outlet, scientist, or medical professional spouting that nonsense should immediately come under review. I can't stress enough how bad it is.

Dawgology
08-25-2020, 09:11 AM
This new saliva test should solve a lot of testing issues. I blame American science and companies for dragging their feet on better testing.

Yep. I've got a buddy who is flying out of country this week on business to France. The business mailed him a saliva kit which he picked up at the post office, administered the test himself in the post office parking lot and put it back in the mail (pre-paid overnight). Legit. And so fast. Got his results back in under 48 hours from the time he mailed it.

Game changer.

msstate7
08-25-2020, 09:17 AM
I'm still very interested in what death stats look like the rest of the year and halfway thru next. I think a significant portion of our deaths due to covid were just moved up a matter of months.

Johnson85
08-25-2020, 09:31 AM
I'm still very interested in what death stats look like the rest of the year and halfway thru next. I think a significant portion of our deaths due to covid were just moved up a matter of months.

This is pretty much a guarantee with all the deaths in nursing homes.

msstate7
08-25-2020, 09:42 AM
This is pretty much a guarantee with all the deaths in nursing homes.

Pretty sure this theory of mine was stolen from you haha

Gutter Cobreh
08-25-2020, 12:54 PM
You know what they say about "assume". This is why when the POTUS continued to harp on how well we've done with testing compared to other countries, it was a sham.

Deaths have spiked compared to previous years, so that can be contributed to the virus. Everything else is up for interpretation without any conclusive data to pull from.


You are assuming there as well. Correlation doesn't equal causation. Murder rates are up almost 22% this year.


So, correlation doesn't equal causation - yet you use murder rates to justify the spike in mortality.... That's rich!!!


Absolutely not. I was just pointing out that there are a lot of factors that can contribute to an increase in mortality during any given year. You (once again) assumed that was what I was stating. I was simply pointing out that you can't just randomly attribute any death over the yearly average to a new disease. That's silly. That's terrible statistical work and even worse science. Any news outlet, scientist, or medical professional spouting that nonsense should immediately come under review. I can't stress enough how bad it is.

Hold up!

Please show me where I said that COVID was the sole reason for the uptick in mortality rates this year? I initially stated that it can be contributed to the uptick, same as you did regarding murder rate.

I've linked the posts for your convenience.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
08-25-2020, 01:06 PM
The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)...
That's like saying: The HIV info Thread. (Please keep sexual references out please)

Matt3467
08-25-2020, 01:16 PM
Hold up!

Please show me where I said that COVID was the sole reason for the uptick in mortality rates this year? I initially stated that it can be contributed to the uptick, same as you did regarding murder rate.

I've linked the posts for your convenience.

I think you're being willfully ignorant on this one. I read the correspondence and it was pretty clear what both of you were saying.

Dolphus Raymond
08-25-2020, 01:58 PM
Over the course of this pandemic, 963 nursing home patients have died from COVID. For perspective, I wonder how many nursing Mississippi home patients die in any given 5 month period?
The nursing homes in Lauderdale and Jones counties have been hit especially hard.

Dawgology
08-25-2020, 03:02 PM
You know what they say about "assume". This is why when the POTUS continued to harp on how well we've done with testing compared to other countries, it was a sham.

Deaths have spiked compared to previous years, so that can be contributed to the virus. Everything else is up for interpretation without any conclusive data to pull from.

Well, that's what you said. If you meant something different then that's ok. I followed up with actual data regarding homicide rates. I'll follow that up with a couple of other things: before covid arrived on American shores the nation was already seeing an uptick in the national suicide rate. Since Covid-19 there has been a 65% increase in the suicide call centers across the nation. Many of these are closely correlated with unemployment and anxiety. Anecdotally, in my jurisdiction we worked 3 suicides last year...I've 8 so far this year and the year isn't over. The holidays are typically when most of our suicides takes place. Interestlingly, there has also seen a 35% increase in non-covid deaths since March.

This isn't to say that there aren't covid deaths that have gone unreported. It would be foolish to think that there isn't but it can't be assumed that all deaths above the mean...or even half...or even a tenth...are covid related because there is little empirical data from which to derive that theory. That hasn't stopped some cities and states from doing just that, though, and that is disingenuous at best.

Homedawg
08-25-2020, 03:14 PM
Hpspitalizations on a continued nose dive down.

SteelCurtain74
08-25-2020, 06:22 PM
67 deaths reported today by MSDH although 23 of those occurred between July 1st and August 17th. ICU bed usage due to Covid is still in a downward trend. It also looks like hospitalizations and people on ventilators are going in the right direction as well.

ScoobaDawg
08-25-2020, 06:37 PM
Well haven't yall had a busy day discussing... voting... in a covid thread. Thanks for no bashing or name calling.. but still discuss it somewhere else please.

ScoobaDawg
08-25-2020, 06:41 PM
The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)...
That's like saying: The HIV info Thread. (Please keep sexual references out please)

It's not that hard actually...Stick to discussing Covid in this thread.. yes politics unfortuntly have a part in the handling of this but we don't need full blown attacks on each side that branches off completely off topic.

Gutter Cobreh
08-25-2020, 08:30 PM
Well haven't yall had a busy day discussing... voting... in a covid thread. Thanks for no bashing or name calling.. but still discuss it somewhere else please.

My apologies. I started it, so I'll own it. I'll try and refrain moving forward.

Gutter Cobreh
08-25-2020, 08:34 PM
Well, that's what you said. If you meant something different then that's ok. I followed up with actual data regarding homicide rates. I'll follow that up with a couple of other things: before covid arrived on American shores the nation was already seeing an uptick in the national suicide rate. Since Covid-19 there has been a 65% increase in the suicide call centers across the nation. Many of these are closely correlated with unemployment and anxiety. Anecdotally, in my jurisdiction we worked 3 suicides last year...I've 8 so far this year and the year isn't over. The holidays are typically when most of our suicides takes place. Interestlingly, there has also seen a 35% increase in non-covid deaths since March.

This isn't to say that there aren't covid deaths that have gone unreported. It would be foolish to think that there isn't but it can't be assumed that all deaths above the mean...or even half...or even a tenth...are covid related because there is little empirical data from which to derive that theory. That hasn't stopped some cities and states from doing just that, though, and that is disingenuous at best.

Gotcha. I will concede that a higher than normal number of deaths aren't because the person was sick with the virus, but was a byproduct of the toll the virus has taken in other ways. However you want to slice it, mortality rate has increased this year and the only significant change is that we've had a novel virus introduced to society.

Dawgology
08-25-2020, 09:39 PM
Gotcha. I will concede that a higher than normal number of deaths aren't because the person was sick with the virus, but was a byproduct of the toll the virus has taken in other ways. However you want to slice it, mortality rate has increased this year and the only significant change is that we've had a novel virus introduced to society.

Nice goal post moving.

ScoobaDawg
08-26-2020, 03:02 AM
My apologies. I started it, so I'll own it. I'll try and refrain moving forward.

Thanks.. I really don't want to ban people. the 3 I did ban have been told to stop before. they can come back in a month... or... more.. will see.

I just want this cr@p over too...

ScoobaDawg
08-26-2020, 03:03 AM
My apologies. I started it, so I'll own it. I'll try and refrain moving forward.

Thanks.. I really don't want to ban people. the 3 I did ban have been told to stop before. they can come back in a month... or... more.. will see.

I just want this cr@p over too...

SteelCurtain74
08-26-2020, 08:40 AM
In all of the mail in voting discussion yesterday, apologies to Scooba and Gutter for my part in that, I didn't see this posted concerning the change in guidance from the CDC concerning testing for asymptomatic people.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cdc-says-asymptomatic-people-don-t-need-testing-draws-criticism-from-experts/ar-BB18ogme

Johnson85
08-27-2020, 11:16 AM
We must have some funky stuff going on with processing tests. Just had our lowest thursday since June. I'm thinking maybe our sharp decline was driven by not getting as many tests processed or reported and then the subsequent spike was partly catchup, and that we've been on a gradual decline the whole time as far as actual cases.

Just a shot in the dark, but it seems weird how lumpy the results have been since we hit the peak.

Liverpooldawg
08-27-2020, 11:27 AM
We must have some funky stuff going on with processing tests. Just had our lowest thursday since June. I'm thinking maybe our sharp decline was driven by not getting as many tests processed or reported and then the subsequent spike was partly catchup, and that we've been on a gradual decline the whole time as far as actual cases.

Just a shot in the dark, but it seems weird how lumpy the results have been since we hit the peak.
We aren't testing as many people.

Dawgfan77
08-27-2020, 11:31 AM
We aren't testing as many people.

Bold statement you are making. Can you provide a link because I find it hard to believe or is this just more of your propaganda

msstate7
08-27-2020, 11:34 AM
We must have some funky stuff going on with processing tests. Just had our lowest thursday since June. I'm thinking maybe our sharp decline was driven by not getting as many tests processed or reported and then the subsequent spike was partly catchup, and that we've been on a gradual decline the whole time as far as actual cases.

Just a shot in the dark, but it seems weird how lumpy the results have been since we hit the peak.

Didn't the CDC just say not to get tested just bc you were exposed, but wait for symptoms?

Dawgfan77
08-27-2020, 11:40 AM
Didn't the CDC just say not to get tested just bc you were exposed, but wait for symptoms?

That's correct they are leaning toward asymptotic may not pass the the virus on. If true then that's a game changer.

msstate7
08-27-2020, 11:42 AM
Mississippi's test reporting is awful, so no idea on how much less if any that's being done. You can look at this chart though, and see things are getting much better...

https://i.postimg.cc/c4bNfxQT/AF8-FD298-BA93-48-A9-8137-93-CBC0015-CBC.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Johnson85
08-27-2020, 11:47 AM
We aren't testing as many people.

That doesn't explain the spike and immediate drop. There would just be a decline. And it would probably show up in hospitalizations and deaths if it were something other than how we're processing or reporting tests. Could just be random fluctuation around the trend, but seems pretty significant to be that.

Homedawg
08-27-2020, 11:51 AM
Mississippi's test reporting is awful, so no idea on how much less if any that's being done. You can look at this chart though, and see things are getting much better...

https://i.postimg.cc/c4bNfxQT/AF8-FD298-BA93-48-A9-8137-93-CBC0015-CBC.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Can't wait til we get to zero so we can get back to normal ***

Matt3467
08-27-2020, 11:59 AM
Here's an article from yesterday on how Collin Co in TX just last week had 4,736 active COVID cases and after an investigation it's been reduced to only 81: https://starlocalmedia.com/allenamerican/collin-countys-active-case-count-reduces-by-thousands/article_bd804890-e800-11ea-b649-03d6f2fd31b6.html

"In the previous week, Collin County’s COVID-19 dashboard had begun sporting a disclaimer stating that it had been made aware of inaccuracies in reporting from the DSHS and that the county had no confidence in the data it was receiving."

There have been stories like this all over. How can anyone still believe the numbers that are being reported? Strange also how the numbers in these cases are always on the high side.

SheltonChoked
08-27-2020, 12:58 PM
Didn't the CDC just say not to get tested just bc you were exposed, but wait for symptoms?


Due to the White House Task Force Guidance and not from the experts inside the CDC...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/us/politics/coronavirus-testing-trump-cdc.html

And the number of tests are down in Texas...
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/10/coronavirus-testing-texas/

And in Mississippi
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/mississippi

It's almost like someone is pushing to reduce the number of tests for some reason....

msstate7
08-27-2020, 01:21 PM
Due to the White House Task Force Guidance and not from the experts inside the CDC...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/us/politics/coronavirus-testing-trump-cdc.html

And the number of tests are down in Texas...
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/10/coronavirus-testing-texas/

And in Mississippi
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/mississippi

It's almost like someone is pushing to reduce the number of tests for some reason....

If cases are only down bc of testing, hospitalizations shouldn't be dropping, right?

Dawgology
08-27-2020, 01:23 PM
Due to the White House Task Force Guidance and not from the experts inside the CDC...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/us/politics/coronavirus-testing-trump-cdc.html

And the number of tests are down in Texas...
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/10/coronavirus-testing-texas/

And in Mississippi
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/mississippi

It's almost like someone is pushing to reduce the number of tests for some reason....

I wonder how they are pushing down hospitalizations? Does a g-man come to the hospital and deny you entry if you have Covid?

Dawgology
08-27-2020, 01:24 PM
Due to the White House Task Force Guidance and not from the experts inside the CDC...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/us/politics/coronavirus-testing-trump-cdc.html

And the number of tests are down in Texas...
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/10/coronavirus-testing-texas/

And in Mississippi
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/mississippi

It's almost like someone is pushing to reduce the number of tests for some reason....

Or maybe...it's not a conspiracy (like you like to say about the tin-foil hat wearing conservative side) and tests are down because there are fewer cases?

Joebob
08-27-2020, 02:05 PM
That's correct they are leaning toward asymptotic may not pass the the virus on. If true then that's a game changer.

This would be interesting as hell if it turns out to be true. I talked to an epidemiologist in April and she said that the virus was spreading so fast (at that time) that there almost had to be asymptomatic spread going on. We may have to wait several years to find out exactly how this virus is really spreading.

Gutter Cobreh
08-27-2020, 03:37 PM
Here's an article from yesterday on how Collin Co in TX just last week had 4,736 active COVID cases and after an investigation it's been reduced to only 81: https://starlocalmedia.com/allenamerican/collin-countys-active-case-count-reduces-by-thousands/article_bd804890-e800-11ea-b649-03d6f2fd31b6.html

"In the previous week, Collin County?s COVID-19 dashboard had begun sporting a disclaimer stating that it had been made aware of inaccuracies in reporting from the DSHS and that the county had no confidence in the data it was receiving."

There have been stories like this all over. How can anyone still believe the numbers that are being reported? Strange also how the numbers in these cases are always on the high side.

And yet without fail, everyday someone gets on this thread to post or discuss the recent testing data...

If the goal of the pandemic response was to make people become apathetic to the entire situation, then I'd say that initiative has been a huge success!!!!

Gutter Cobreh
08-27-2020, 03:42 PM
Bold statement you are making. Can you provide a link because I find it hard to believe or is this just more of your propaganda


That's correct they are leaning toward asymptotic may not pass the the virus on. If true then that's a game changer.

The irony of these two posts is fascinating!!!!

How you can challenge someone and request a link, then subsequently turn around and make a claim without providing a link yourself is quite ironic.

I guess I forgot though, it's everyone else on this board spewing propaganda.

Dawgology
08-27-2020, 04:09 PM
The irony of these two posts is fascinating!!!!

How you can challenge someone and request a link, then subsequently turn around and make a claim without providing a link yourself is quite ironic.

I guess I forgot though, it's everyone else on this board spewing propaganda.

No...pretty much everyone on both sides is spewing propaganda.

The biggest failure of the American covid response was that it was politicized from the gate. That falls on the shoulders of the President, the media, government agencies, and more than a few scientists, doctors, and academics.

THAT was the failure. THAT is what led to where we are.

Matt3467
08-27-2020, 06:49 PM
And yet without fail, everyday someone gets on this thread to post or discuss the recent testing data...

If the goal of the pandemic response was to make people become apathetic to the entire situation, then I'd say that initiative has been a huge success!!!!

Interesting. What I posted doesn't bother you?

Homedawg
08-28-2020, 12:01 PM
Another low case count day. Hospitalizations continue to sink.

starkvegasdawg
08-28-2020, 04:51 PM
Ventilator and ICU numbers also dropping substantially. I think ventilators went from almost 200 early in the month to near 100 today.

yjnkdawg
08-28-2020, 04:53 PM
MS State Medical Association/ MSDH Covid Weekly Meeting - August 28, 2020 (You need to click on the video in the middle to get it started)



https://www.facebook.com/MSstatemedical/videos/785169822246419/

Dolphus Raymond
08-28-2020, 05:02 PM
We are starting to see numbers that I was expecting to see throughout the summer months. Perhaps people are finally taking this virus seriously by wearing masks, socially distancing etc? The fall and winter months will tell the tale.
The huge surge in cases this summer was perplexing. I do not think anyone saw that coming.

yjnkdawg
08-28-2020, 05:34 PM
We are starting to see numbers that I was expecting to see throughout the summer months. Perhaps people are finally taking this virus seriously by wearing masks, socially distancing etc? The fall and winter months will tell the tale.
The huge surge in cases this summer was perplexing. I do not think anyone saw that coming.

It wasn't surprising to the health experts. Too many people being selfish and having this "I'm going to do what i want to do mentality", and not worried about others, or maybe some just weren't even keeping up with the Covid situation, it was inevitable that the numbers were going to rise or surge.

Cooterpoot
08-28-2020, 06:01 PM
Not once have our hospitals been completely overrun with Covid cases. 99.7% of people still surviving. Covid was overblown from day one for the average person below 65. And most of those over 65 were basically left to die by their local government and the care facilities they paid to take care of them.

Dawg2003
08-28-2020, 06:09 PM
At my hospital, 60% of our ICU capacity was Covid at one point. It hovered around 50% for a month. That's completely overrun. We had to open up surge and shut down numerous surgeries. It was a bad situation this summer. Thankfully, it's calming down now.

Cooterpoot
08-28-2020, 06:32 PM
At my hospital, 60% of our ICU capacity was Covid at one point. It hovered around 50% for a month. That's completely overrun. We had to open up surge and shut down numerous surgeries. It was a bad situation this summer. Thankfully, it's calming down now.

No, completely overrun is when they have to actually use all the overflow facilities that were set up. They were never used.

Jack Lambert
08-28-2020, 07:04 PM
This would be interesting as hell if it turns out to be true. I talked to an epidemiologist in April and she said that the virus was spreading so fast (at that time) that there almost had to be asymptomatic spread going on. We may have to wait several years to find out exactly how this virus is really spreading.

Maybe it has mutated.

Cooterpoot
08-28-2020, 07:36 PM
Maybe it has mutated.

It has.

Liverpooldawg
08-28-2020, 11:21 PM
No, completely overrun is when they have to actually use all the overflow facilities that were set up. They were never used.

Guy that actually works at his hospital says it was overwhelming for his hospital. Message board expert says it wasn't.

Cooterpoot
08-28-2020, 11:31 PM
Guy that actually works at his hospital says it was overwhelming for his hospital. Message board expert says it wasn't.

I literally work with multiple hospitals. Liverpool thinks he knows someone. He's wrong and fails at being a smartass.

Liverpooldawg
08-29-2020, 12:29 AM
I literally work with multiple hospitals. Liverpool thinks he knows someone. He's wrong and fails at being a smartass.
I was just quoting a guy that says he works at a hospital that basically says you are full of it. You evidently know more than he does about the place he is employed at. Impressive.

KOdawg1
08-29-2020, 07:04 AM
Another low case count day. Hospitalizations continue to sink.

Shhhh

starkvegasdawg
08-29-2020, 01:43 PM
Now 10 days of fewer than 1,000 new cases.

Joebob
08-29-2020, 01:45 PM
No...pretty much everyone on both sides is spewing propaganda.

The biggest failure of the American covid response was that it was politicized from the gate. That falls on the shoulders of the President, the media, government agencies, and more than a few scientists, doctors, and academics.

THAT was the failure. THAT is what led to where we are.

Scientists stating what the data currently shows is not politicizing anything. It's people's response to the data that is politicizing. That doesn't mean you shouldn't take their preliminary findings or recommendations with a grain of salt. It's preliminary after all, and it takes years or decades of research to sort things out. But just because an epidemiologist thinks we should shut down the country doesn't mean he/she is pushing a political agenda.

Jack Lambert
08-29-2020, 02:16 PM
It has.

Mutation is what caused the second wave of the Spanish Flu. It mutated to a more dangerous bug. I hope this mutation made it weaker.

Jack Lambert
08-29-2020, 02:17 PM
Scientists stating what the data currently shows is not politicizing anything. It's people's response to the data that is politicizing. That doesn't mean you shouldn't take their preliminary findings or recommendations with a grain of salt. It's preliminary after all, and it takes years or decades of research to sort things out. But just because an epidemiologist thinks we should shut down the country doesn't mean he/she is pushing a political agenda.

In march they were saying 2 million dead americans. Today less than 180K. I say they got it right.

SteelCurtain74
08-29-2020, 09:01 PM
Saw this update on the CDC site concerning comorbidities:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/#Comorbidities

"For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."

msstate7
08-30-2020, 12:57 PM
Saw this update on the CDC site concerning comorbidities:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/#Comorbidities

"For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."

This is pretty big news, and no comments

Matt3467
08-30-2020, 05:12 PM
Saw this update on the CDC site concerning comorbidities:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/#Comorbidities

"For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."


This is pretty big news, and no comments

I actually just saw this and was on my way to leave a comment. This is really big.

Cooterpoot
08-30-2020, 05:21 PM
I was just quoting a guy that says he works at a hospital that basically says you are full of it. You evidently know more than he does about the place he is employed at. Impressive.

Show me where I said that. I told him what I meant. What I considered "overrun".

Dawgfan77
08-30-2020, 05:36 PM
This is pretty big news, and no comments

You won't because for some here It doesn't fit a narrative or their propaganda. I said months ago deaths weren't counted correctly and was blasted

chef dixon
08-30-2020, 05:50 PM
I actually just saw this and was on my way to leave a comment. This is really big.

It's pretty rare to fill out a death certificate that has one diagnosis on it period. Physicians are trained to be detailed when they fill them out, regardless of how they die. It doesn't really change what we know about COVID-19, which is it is a lot more dangerous to people with underlying chronic diseases. 6 out of every 100 people who die from this are otherwise completely healthy tells me, although obviously rare, it has the ability to dust anyone's ass in the right situation.

chef dixon
08-30-2020, 05:52 PM
You won't because for some here It doesn't fit a narrative or their propaganda. I said months ago deaths weren't counted correctly and was blasted

That's not what that stat suggests. It's still killing these people for the most part. They are just at baseline less healthy.

Dawgfan77
08-30-2020, 06:01 PM
That's not what that stat suggests. It's still killing these people for the most part. They are just at baseline less healthy.

Why do you hate good news. Oh. I see cause you have an agenda. Got it. My bad. Have a great Sunday.

chef dixon
08-30-2020, 06:10 PM
Why do you hate good news. Oh. I see cause you have an agenda. Got it. My bad. Have a great Sunday.

I just like for you to know how it works. It's not as political as you think it is. Doctors decide/label cause of death. If it gets reported any differently after that then I can't explain that. A death certificate may read immediate cause of death: respiratory failure due to Covid-19 infection, secondary to weakened immune system, secondary to poorly controlled diabetes. The diabetes is not what killed them, but it contributes and it's getting listed. No agenda I'm aware of, things seem to be doing better than before.

Dawgfan77
08-30-2020, 07:36 PM
I just like for you to know how it works. It's not as political as you think it is. Doctors decide/label cause of death. If it gets reported any differently after that then I can't explain that. A death certificate may read immediate cause of death: respiratory failure due to Covid-19 infection, secondary to weakened immune system, secondary to poorly controlled diabetes. The diabetes is not what killed them, but it contributes and it's getting listed. No agenda I'm aware of, things seem to be doing better than before.

I understand that. I'm sorry if I came across wrong

MaroonFlounder
08-30-2020, 08:10 PM
CDC says it is NOT 180,000 deaths from strictly Covid.

Actually less than 10,000.

Matt3467
08-31-2020, 12:34 PM
What happened to our daily updates from Hacker?

Joebob
08-31-2020, 05:13 PM
Saw this update on the CDC site concerning comorbidities:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/#Comorbidities

"For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."

This explains why everybody is misinterpreting this information:

https://medium.com/@gidmk/covid-19-deaths-are-mostly-caused-by-coronavirus-2a6d2d43bd09

Johnson85
09-01-2020, 08:30 AM
This is somewhat encouraging:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-lockdown-may-have-indirectly-caused-16-000-excess-deaths-study-12044923

If they are right, the UK government managed to not cause more damage than the virus itself. Guessing we probably did roughly similar. Lots of places in the US pursued less damaging policies than the UK, but we did have our most populous areas act the most heavy handed, so that probably balances out to an extent. I was really expecting to find out we did more damage than the virus itself. Of course, this is just looking at deaths. Could be a different picture if you include all the other harms. But still, only causing two deaths for every three covid caused deaths is better than I was expecting.

Liverpooldawg
09-01-2020, 09:31 AM
This is pretty big news, and no comments

Ugh, that's not news at all. It's been listed and updated on the MSDH website for Mississippi since they put up up. What IS new is the twist being put on it. There have been some very interesting changes at the CDC and the FDA in the last month.

msstate7
09-01-2020, 10:25 AM
This is somewhat encouraging:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...study-12044923

If they are right, the UK government managed to not cause more damage than the virus itself. Guessing we probably did roughly similar. Lots of places in the US pursued less damaging policies than the UK, but we did have our most populous areas act the most heavy handed, so that probably balances out to an extent. I was really expecting to find out we did more damage than the virus itself. Of course, this is just looking at deaths. Could be a different picture if you include all the other harms.

Link messed up

msstate7
09-01-2020, 10:34 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/66MK1kRz/55-D92-CDE-68-A5-4-A3-B-87-F2-9-DD7-A74732-A8.jpg (https://postimg.cc/fkS1Vg80)

https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status/1300813203774070784?s=21

Extendedcab
09-01-2020, 10:47 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/66MK1kRz/55-D92-CDE-68-A5-4-A3-B-87-F2-9-DD7-A74732-A8.jpg (https://postimg.cc/fkS1Vg80)

https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status/1300813203774070784?s=21

Hopefully this does not shock anybody!

Johnson85
09-01-2020, 11:02 AM
Link messed up

Not sure what happened there.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-lockdown-may-have-indirectly-caused-16-000-excess-deaths-study-12044923

Will fix in original post also.

Matt3467
09-01-2020, 02:19 PM
Hopefully this does not shock anybody!

Not here. Goal posts continue to move. Now it's "wait until a vaccine." So reading between the lines it would seem that unless you intend to allow the gov to inject you with a vaccine (that's if it's not made mandatory) you will continue to be forced to wear a mask.

Joebob
09-01-2020, 03:31 PM
Not here. Goal posts continue to move. Now it's "wait until a vaccine." So reading between the lines it would seem that unless you intend to allow the gov to inject you with a vaccine (that's if it's not made mandatory) you will continue to be forced to wear a mask.

Poor baby. Gotta wear that bad ol' mask. Screw everybody else, it's all about you, right?

FISHDAWG
09-01-2020, 03:40 PM
Poor baby. Gotta wear that bad ol' mask. Screw everybody else, it's all about you, right?

him and ME ... screw the mask

msstate7
09-01-2020, 04:51 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/63F0n8zd/3-DD86876-7213-4-B62-8701-6466-CC078808.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XGcd07RJ)

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1300896925177257986?s=21

iPat09
09-01-2020, 05:09 PM
Some good news about antibodies

https://apnews.com/bc8888eb4e70c1dd77566e536404afe5

Jack Lambert
09-01-2020, 05:40 PM
Some good news about antibodies

https://apnews.com/bc8888eb4e70c1dd77566e536404afe5

How dare you bring positive corona news.*****

Johnson85
09-02-2020, 08:42 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/63F0n8zd/3-DD86876-7213-4-B62-8701-6466-CC078808.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XGcd07RJ)

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1300896925177257986?s=21

So now that raises the possibility that coronavirus is more dangerous than thought. If a lot of these people with "positive" tests aren't really infected and aren't immune, then the IFR may be higher than thought?

shoeless joe
09-02-2020, 08:44 AM
So now that raises the possibility that coronavirus is more dangerous than thought. If a lot of these people with "positive" tests aren't really infected and aren't immune, then the IFR may be higher than thought?

Or does it mean that Germany has a lot more cases than they thought? I don’t know...

msstate7
09-02-2020, 09:09 AM
So now that raises the possibility that coronavirus is more dangerous than thought. If a lot of these people with "positive" tests aren't really infected and aren't immune, then the IFR may be higher than thought?

Could. It could feed into the theories that any death with a positive test is a covid death.

SheltonChoked
09-02-2020, 10:51 AM
Not here. Goal posts continue to move. Now it's "wait until a vaccine." So reading between the lines it would seem that unless you intend to allow the gov to inject you with a vaccine (that's if it's not made mandatory) you will continue to be forced to wear a mask.

It's not like this is a new government requirement. To go to school, you have to get a vaccine for a dozen diseases. Why the vitriol for one more? Or are you an anti-vaxxer?

starkvegasdawg
09-02-2020, 11:55 AM
https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2020/sep/02/two-types-of-steroid-found-to-save-lives-of-some-covid-19-patients?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Two cheap and readily available steroids shown to reduce mortality rate in severely ill patients by 20%.

Matt3467
09-02-2020, 12:02 PM
It's not like this is a new government requirement. To go to school, you have to get a vaccine for a dozen diseases. Why the vitriol for one more? Or are you an anti-vaxxer?

No you don't. There are exemptions. Something wrong with not receiving vaccines? If you got yours you have nothing to worry about, correct?

Cooterpoot
09-02-2020, 12:50 PM
So now that raises the possibility that coronavirus is more dangerous than thought. If a lot of these people with "positive" tests aren't really infected and aren't immune, then the IFR may be higher than thought?

It means there are lesser strands and our testing is bad. It's why the CDC backed off testing requirements a couple months ago.

Joebob
09-03-2020, 12:58 PM
Maybe the Big Ten "gets it" more than people think.
https://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-football/article245448050.html

Homedawg
09-03-2020, 01:28 PM
Maybe the Big Ten "gets it" more than people think.
https://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-football/article245448050.html

So this has never been a threat??? If it were that big of one they should stop them altogether, lots of ways to get it. But continue in your cave sir.

SheltonChoked
09-03-2020, 01:58 PM
No you don't. There are exemptions. Something wrong with not receiving vaccines? If you got yours you have nothing to worry about, correct?

So you are an antivaxxer lunatic.

Good to know.

confucius say
09-03-2020, 02:14 PM
So this has never been a threat??? If it were that big of one they should stop them altogether, lots of ways to get it. But continue in your cave sir.

His claim, made during a local school board meeting off the cuff, has already been debunked by Dellinger and others today.

State82
09-03-2020, 03:06 PM
His claim, made during a local school board meeting off the cuff, has already been debunked by Dellinger and others today.

Yep. Matt Wyatt just discussed this on his show. Nebraska issued a statement that they had no such problems. So, bullshit as usual.

Matt3467
09-03-2020, 05:00 PM
So you are an antivaxxer lunatic.

Good to know.

I've got all my shots bitch. It's the principle. You don't force injections on anyone. There should always be a choice.

Dawgfan77
09-03-2020, 05:43 PM
So vaccine maybe available by Nov.
Only 10 deaths in MS today. Amazing how much better things have gotten

Dawgfan77
09-03-2020, 06:40 PM
So you are an antivaxxer lunatic.

Good to know.

https://twitter.com/bonaguraespn/status/1301644428025540608?s=21


Well....were waiting....

Jack Lambert
09-03-2020, 06:50 PM
So vaccine maybe available by Nov.
Only 10 deaths in MS today. Amazing how much better things have gotten

wait until November 4th.

Homedawg
09-06-2020, 11:37 AM
Bump. For hacker, pool and joe on. As the cases keep coming down and hospitalizations coming down with them amazing they bail on the thread....

Dawgfan77
09-06-2020, 06:25 PM
You won't when things are good they disappear

KOdawg1
09-06-2020, 06:53 PM
Bump. For hacker, pool and joe on. As the cases keep coming down and hospitalizations coming down with them amazing they bail on the thread....

It's amazing, isn't it?

BB30
09-06-2020, 07:03 PM
It really is. For months were have been told that numbers are going to sky rocket and deaths will surely follow.

Nobody is safe.....

Now all we get is crickets.

Homedawg
09-06-2020, 07:52 PM
It really is. For months were have been told that numbers are going to sky rocket and deaths will surely follow.

Nobody is safe.....

Now all we get is crickets.

I actually didn't have an issue w hacker to a point w his stats and info. But the fact he's gone silent for so long is rather amusing. No news is bad news for him I guess....

99jc
09-06-2020, 08:34 PM
Before you all gloat let this winter play out and if the covid doesn't mutate just be happy.

msstate7
09-07-2020, 09:53 AM
MS: 242 cases, 1 death

Homedawg
09-07-2020, 09:57 AM
Before you all gloat let this winter play out and if the covid doesn't mutate just be happy.

Not gloating. I'm here when the news is bad or good. The others aren't. Only w bad.

Liverpooldawg
09-07-2020, 11:52 AM
Y'all are some really sad dudes. Do you seriously think anyone is upset that things are better? I think I'll wait to celebrate though. I know too many people who have it right now.

KOdawg1
09-07-2020, 12:10 PM
Y'all are some really sad dudes. Do you seriously think anyone is upset that things are better? I think I'll wait to celebrate though. I know too many people who have it right now.

I don't think anyone is claiming people are upset that things are better. It's just that the people who were here every day when it was bad have suddenly disappeared. For months, people linked articles detailing how bad this was, while shooting down every positive link or article.

I also don't see anyone celebrating.

Jack Lambert
09-07-2020, 12:11 PM
Y'all are some really sad dudes. Do you seriously think anyone is upset that things are better? I think I'll wait to celebrate though. I know too many people who have it right now.

Five weeks ago you had a group of guys hoping we didn't play football and everyone was arguing over it. Today we are debating who should get tickets. I think things are getting better and should be happy.

ScoobaDawg
09-07-2020, 02:26 PM
Bump. For hacker, pool and joe on. As the cases keep coming down and hospitalizations coming down with them amazing they bail on the thread....

You do know some people have a life away from the site don't you? Hacker hasn't always been one to post to the site daily usually. He hasn't visited the site since Aug 10th in fact.

How about instead of rejoicing in things aren't worse, you acknowledge that mask wearing and social distancing has worked...

And Jack every time you post the virus beliefs will change on Nov 4th you show how stupid you are.. This must be the biggest conspiracy in world history to ya.

KOdawg1
09-07-2020, 02:30 PM
How about instead of rejoicing in things aren't worse, you acknowledge that mask wearing and social distancing has worked...


Why can't those go hand-in-hand?

KOdawg1
09-07-2020, 02:31 PM
And Jack every time you post the virus beliefs will change on Nov 4th you show how stupid you are.. This must be the biggest conspiracy in world history to ya.

Wow. Name calling from the site mod. Professional.

Joebob
09-07-2020, 02:58 PM
I can't speak for Mississippi since I don't live there, but it's clear here in the DFW area that mask wearing has made a big difference, so I'm very happy that the dire predictions didn't come to pass (so far anyway). It's given me a chance to come out of the basement and live a halfway normal life. So thank you to all of those that did your part to help make this pandemic a little more tolerable.

Matt3467
09-07-2020, 02:59 PM
You do know some people have a life away from the site don't you? Hacker hasn't always been one to post to the site daily usually. He hasn't visited the site since Aug 10th in fact.

You're missing the point. Before COVID he wasn't a daily poster but when it hit he sure was up until things started getting better ironically around his last post. Easier to just acknowledge how that looks a little strange instead of deflecting by saying people have a life outside of this site. Did he not have one before Aug 10? This doesn't just apply to Hacker either...

Matt3467
09-07-2020, 03:22 PM
How about instead of rejoicing in things aren't worse, you acknowledge that mask wearing and social distancing has worked...


I can't speak for Mississippi since I don't live there, but it's clear here in the DFW area that mask wearing has made a big difference, so I'm very happy that the dire predictions didn't come to pass (so far anyway). It's given me a chance to come out of the basement and live a halfway normal life. So thank you to all of those that did your part to help make this pandemic a little more tolerable.

I don't believe it's clear either way. Here in Arkansas as of a few days ago we had a total of 64,690 cases and 882 deaths from COVID with a statewide mask mandate while our neighbor Oklahoma had 62,040 total cases and 846 deaths without a state mask mandate and OK has nearly 1 million more people than AR. There are some localities in OK that have adopted mask mandates to be fair.

People point to lower case counts to back up their claims of masks being effective as well but don't include that the CDC has adjusted their recommendations for receiving tests driving down total tests as a whole. At the same time deaths aren't jumping up like was predicted and hospitalizations haven't hit anywhere near predicted.

At best the arguement that masks are effective is inconclusive. That's without going into how the CDC now considers anyone that has been within 6ft of a COVID positive person WITH or WITHOUT a mask a close contact and recommends they quarantine or the studies that have come out saying that the neck gaiters and maks with vents/flaps are worse than not wearing a mask. OSHA guidelines say that cloth masks all the way up to surgical masks will not protect anyone from airborne infections. You'll need an N95. But Fauci was saying not too long ago that may not be enough and we should wear goggles.

BeardoMSU
09-07-2020, 05:18 PM
Wow. Name calling from the site mod. Professional.

He's not wrong. And acknowledging stupid ideas as stupid isn't unprofessional. If y'all didn't live in a political echo-chamber, you'd know how ****ing retarded it all is.

Dawgfan77
09-07-2020, 05:22 PM
I don't believe it's clear either way. Here in Arkansas as of a few days ago we had a total of 64,690 cases and 882 deaths from COVID with a statewide mask mandate while our neighbor Oklahoma had 62,040 total cases and 846 deaths without a state mask mandate and OK has nearly 1 million more people than AR. There are some localities in OK that have adopted mask mandates to be fair.

People point to lower case counts to back up their claims of masks being effective as well but don't include that the CDC has adjusted their recommendations for receiving tests driving down total tests as a whole. At the same time deaths aren't jumping up like was predicted and hospitalizations haven't hit anywhere near predicted.

At best the arguement that masks are effective is inconclusive. That's without going into how the CDC now considers anyone that has been within 6ft of a COVID positive person WITH or WITHOUT a mask a close contact and recommends they quarantine or the studies that have come out saying that the neck gaiters and maks with vents/flaps are worse than not wearing a mask. OSHA guidelines say that cloth masks all the way up to surgical masks will not protect anyone from airborne infections. You'll need an N95. But Fauci was saying not too long ago that may not be enough and we should wear goggles.

Numbers keeping coming down I think in two weeks. Yeah I know... mask will be by choice...

Dawgfan77
09-07-2020, 06:08 PM
Y'all are some really sad dudes. Do you seriously think anyone is upset that things are better? I think I'll wait to celebrate though. I know too many people who have it right now.

You must live in a hot bed your the only person that had cases and deaths around you every day...or... your making it up...,

Homedawg
09-07-2020, 06:46 PM
You do know some people have a life away from the site don't you? Hacker hasn't always been one to post to the site daily usually. He hasn't visited the site since Aug 10th in fact.

How about instead of rejoicing in things aren't worse, you acknowledge that mask wearing and social distancing has worked...

And Jack every time you post the virus beliefs will change on Nov 4th you show how stupid you are.. This must be the biggest conspiracy in world history to ya.

I said that?? Nah not me bro. But carry on w your big boy moderator cause I didn't say that....

Homedawg
09-07-2020, 06:48 PM
Wow. Name calling from the site mod. Professional.

Shocking. I know. He provides so much info and help to the board....

Homedawg
09-07-2020, 06:53 PM
He's not wrong. And acknowledging stupid ideas as stupid isn't unprofessional. If y'all didn't live in a political echo-chamber, you'd know how ****ing retarded it all is.

Glad you can out of the dungeon to chime in...

KOdawg1
09-07-2020, 06:53 PM
He's not wrong. And acknowledging stupid ideas as stupid isn't unprofessional. If y'all didn't live in a political echo-chamber, you'd know how ****ing retarded it all is.

Sure thing.

KOdawg1
09-07-2020, 06:59 PM
Shocking. I know. He provides so much info and help to the board....

It's funny, he banned DownwardDawg for calling someone a name, but then he turns around and calls another poster stupid. I guess whenever you have access to the ban hammer, you can do whatever you want.

BeardoMSU
09-07-2020, 07:28 PM
Glad you can out of the dungeon to chime in...

Sorry I interrupted your conspiratorial wank-fest, lol. You can have it back.


Sure thing.

Awe, no need to edit your original comment, lol.

I asked her...
She didn't recognize your name, so I told her that based on your post history, you likely have a Q trimmed into your pubes.
She just shook her head in disgust and said "Nah, that ain't me".**

KOdawg1
09-07-2020, 07:34 PM
Sorry I interrupted your conspiratorial wank-fest, lol. You can have it back.



Awe, no need to edit your original comment, lol.

I asked her...
She didn't recognize your name, so I told her that based on your post history, you likely have a Q trimmed into your pubes.
She just shook her head in disgust and said "Nah, that ain't me".**

Edited because I figured Scooba would ban me.

Cool.

msstate7
09-07-2020, 08:12 PM
There is no doubt a portion of the left (not sure of the size) that would rather covid ravage this country than it clear up bc that helps Trump.

Cowbell
09-07-2020, 08:18 PM
There is no doubt a portion of the left (not sure of the size) that would rather covid ravage this country rather than it clear up bc that helps Trump.
Only ignorance could cause someone to miss this.

Extendedcab
09-07-2020, 08:25 PM
I have never seen such love and compassion for our fellow man as I have seen here on this board! I hope this is not the model the rest of the world follows or we will be in another world war in no time at all. Passions are flaring and getting out of control!

We seem to see the words people write but not the sentiment or the tone or intent in which it was hopefully written. Instead of giving somebody the benefit of doubt, we all rush and crucify the person.

Yep, I have been guilty as well. I will do my best to improve! But thankfully, I am not in on this current argument.

Liverpooldawg
09-07-2020, 09:41 PM
I can't speak for Mississippi since I don't live there, but it's clear here in the DFW area that mask wearing has made a big difference, so I'm very happy that the dire predictions didn't come to pass (so far anyway). It's given me a chance to come out of the basement and live a halfway normal life. So thank you to all of those that did your part to help make this pandemic a little more tolerable.

It's made a huge difference here too. The timing for when our new case load started dropping jibes exactly with what you would expect from when the mask order came down. Don't try to tell the anti-science people that. Their feelings are way more accurate than actual science.

Liverpooldawg
09-07-2020, 09:42 PM
There is no doubt a portion of the left (not sure of the size) that would rather covid ravage this country than it clear up bc that helps Trump.

If you think this is political then you are the problem.

msstate7
09-08-2020, 05:48 AM
If you think this is political then you are the problem.

If you don't think covid has been politicized, you're an idiot. Sorry, but you are. Doesn't mean covid isn't serious, dangerous, etc, but it most certainly is political also.

ScoobaDawg
09-08-2020, 08:52 AM
I said that?? Nah not me bro. But carry on w your big boy moderator cause I didn't say that....

You called out Hacker for not posting later, while talking about the numbers being better... So what should someone think you meant?


Shocking. I know. He provides so much info and help to the board....

I have nothing to prove to you bud, you have been around on this site since nearly the beginning. I do a lot more for the site than many will ever notice, know, or appreciate and I'm fine with that.

Schultzy
09-08-2020, 08:53 AM
https://stream.org/anthony-fauci-pandemics-are-increasing-because-weve-provoked-mother-nature/

What was that old commercial for? “It’s not nice to fool mother nature.”

ScoobaDawg
09-08-2020, 08:55 AM
It's funny, he banned DownwardDawg for calling someone a name, but then he turns around and calls another poster stupid. I guess whenever you have access to the ban hammer, you can do whatever you want.

Wrong. he, dan, and another .. were banned for 1 month after one again turning this thread into a political dogfight... in fact he and dan had previously been banned for a weekend over the same thing.
Nothing to do with calling anyone a name. and stupid isn't name calling. Unless you are a preschooler or... are just trolling because you didn't like was said. or maybe you were offended because you believe the same.

ScoobaDawg
09-08-2020, 08:57 AM
If you don't think covid has been politicized, you're an idiot. Sorry, but you are. Doesn't mean covid isn't serious, dangerous, etc, but it most certainly is political also.

I will agree it has been politicized in part.

KOdawg1
09-08-2020, 09:41 AM
Wrong. he, dan, and another .. were banned for 1 month after one again turning this thread into a political dogfight... in fact he and dan had previously been banned for a weekend over the same thing.
Nothing to do with calling anyone a name. and stupid isn't name calling. Unless you are a preschooler or... are just trolling because you didn't like was said. or maybe you were offended because you believe the same.
Lol okay tough guy

Johnson85
09-08-2020, 09:46 AM
I will agree it has been politicized in part.

I'm not sure the Wuhan has been politicized as much as it just gets reported on by people who are no longer capable of actually reporting the news, but instead look at and report everything through a partisan prism, or in some cases, not even a partisan prism as much as an orangeman bad prism. There's just nothing they view as beyond politics, and if they don't t hink it has an implication for politics, they no longer think of it as newsworthy.

BrunswickDawg
09-08-2020, 09:59 AM
I'm not sure the Wuhan has been politicized as much as it just gets reported on by people who are no longer capable of actually reporting the news, but instead look at and report everything through a partisan prism, or in some cases, not even a partisan prism as much as an orangeman bad prism. There's just nothing they view as beyond politics, and if they don't t hink it has an implication for politics, they no longer think of it as newsworthy.

I think another issue is we have reporters who absolutely do not understand the topics. When journalism was much better in the past, you would never have a random reporter interpreting the science. They would get the info, contact someone to help translate it for them into understandable language, and then report. Some publications actually hired journalists who specialized in fields so they had a better understanding of the topic. With instant reporting, that is gone. So our dumb ass reporters who can't even get names and dates right half the time are now giving instant interpretation of what they are hearing - and they get stuff wrong.

starkvegasdawg
09-08-2020, 11:05 AM
Zero deaths in MS in today's report from MS Dept of Health. First time since March.

ScoobaDawg
09-08-2020, 12:31 PM
Lol okay tough guy

Yep... batter up...

https://bdiblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/tough-guy.jpg

ScoobaDawg
09-08-2020, 12:33 PM
Zero deaths in MS in today's report from MS Dept of Health. First time since March.

That's a great stat. Will be a telling sign if the numbers stay down over the next two weeks.. as rises have typically happened after holiday weekends.

confucius say
09-08-2020, 01:00 PM
Averaging 542 cases per day. Numbers have continued to fall despite schools and colleges starting back. We were averaging 847 cases per day on August 12. Pretty remarkable.

msstate7
09-08-2020, 01:14 PM
Averaging 542 cases per day. Numbers have continued to fall despite schools and colleges starting back. We were averaging 847 cases per day on August 12. Pretty remarkable.

Florida numbers plummeting also. Most all the sunbelt states are dropping.

msstate7
09-08-2020, 01:17 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKvTxvgJ/F48-D7694-CC34-4-BE1-86-F0-94795-AB35-A01.jpg (https://postimg.cc/jLK0s2t1)

https://twitter.com/oncall4on/status/1303292446583828480?s=21

Johnson85
09-09-2020, 10:59 AM
Unless we are still slow on testing/reporting from labor day weekend, it looks like we're about to have a pretty significant drop in our 7 day averages. I was expecting a big number today to correspond to the usual Tuesday big numbers. Only 426 today.