The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

[hacker]

That's very concerning. Here's the article...

https://www.wlox.com/2020/06/23/dr-dobbs-msdh-speaks-public-after-over-cases-announced/?outputType=amp

...

If this doesn't happen, I'm all on board for replacing him. The fall is still 3 months away, so not sure how he can predict that with certainty.

Transcript of the interview with Dr. Dobbs

https://m.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2020/jun/23/state-health-officer-warns-prepare-overwhelmed-hos/

[confucius say]

We are so unhealthy that we will prob continue to see deaths for a while longer. But deaths are down 90% nationwide since late April for two consecutive days. So that's promising.

[starkvegasdawg]

The first post on this thread was on 3/11 when we had our first case in MS. Now 105 days later we are at 22,898 known cases and almost 1,000 deaths. Sadly, after dropping for several days, we're starting to see a spike in new cases and deaths again. Good news is mortality rate has been dropping. Not too long ago in MS it was almost 5% and as of yesterday it was around 4.3%. I guess have to see if this latest spike reverses that.

[Johnson85]

The first post on this thread was on 3/11 when we had our first case in MS. Now 105 days later we are at 22,898 known cases and almost 1,000 deaths. Sadly, after dropping for several days, we're starting to see a spike in new cases and deaths again. Good news is mortality rate has been dropping. Not too long ago in MS it was almost 5% and as of yesterday it was around 4.3%. I guess have to see if this latest spike reverses that.

I suspect you'll see the latest spike drive the mortality rate down, assuming we are like other states where the spike is driven by younger people getting it.

[Dawgology]

Transcript of the interview with Dr. Dobbs

https://m.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2020/jun/23/state-health-officer-warns-prepare-overwhelmed-hos/

Shit, looks like we are all going to die again.

[DownwardDawg]

Shit, looks like we are all going to die again.

I’m sick and tired of dying.

[Johnson85]

I’m sick and tired of dying.

I'm the opposite. Everytime we all die, it seems to get a little easier. Except when ending net neutrality literally killed us all. I didn't even know that had happened until after the fact.

[Liverpooldawg]

The numbers today were not good either. We may not have to wait for fall for Dobbs' prediction.

[hacker]

around +50 net hospitalizations since yesterday

ICU about the same, but we can't really tell because they're not putting suspected ICU patients on the graph for whatever reason

[SheltonChoked]

As of this afternoon, The 9 county Houston Metro Region is out of ICU beds.

Last night Texas Children's Hospital, began accepting adults in the ICU.

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-icu-bed-capacity-modeling/

Only 2,300 new cases yesterday...

The cases i'm aware of personally were from High School Graduation parties that brought it home to the parents/Grandparents. Kids, Parents and Grandparents all sick.

[msstate7]

As of this afternoon, The 9 county Houston Metro Region is out of ICU beds.

Last night Texas Children's Hospital, began accepting adults in the ICU.

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-icu-bed-capacity-modeling/

Only 2,300 new cases yesterday...

The cases i'm aware of personally were from High School Graduation parties that brought it home to the parents/Grandparents. Kids, Parents and Grandparents all sick.

2300 cases in Houston?

[Liverpooldawg]

2300 cases in Houston?

I saw 1300 in Harris county. He is talking about the metro so that's probably correct.

[msstate7]

I saw 1300 in Harris county. He is talking about the metro so that's probably correct.

Gotcha. Thanks

[starkvegasdawg]

One thing is obvious. The warm weather didn't have the desired effects they had hoped for. It seems it's rather enjoying our hot summer days.

[msstate7]

One thing is obvious. The warm weather didn't have the desired effects they had hoped for. It seems it's rather enjoying our hot summer days.

Yep. Experts saying AC is one of the leading contributors

[Homedawg]

For the love of goodness can people figure out what the Pga tour commissioner has figured out... it's here with us. We are going to have to learnt to live with it, it's not going anywhere anytime soon! With all this MS has a less than a confirmed 1% infection rate of the entire state. 17k+ Of 22k+ are no longer infected. Half of the deaths are in LTC units. Let those numbers run through you head and tell me what's the proper response?? And sitting at home isn't the right one.

[Homedawg]

Yep. Experts saying AC is one of the leading contributors

5 months ago the same peeps said couldnt get it person to person. Then it went, not from surface to surface. Then hard to get surface to surface. In the same span, masks didn't matter, then they do, and then not so much, but keep wearing them.... but Liverpool has been consistent, you protect him, Bc he has a job that's important and you don't need to give it to him....

[Johnson85]

One thing is obvious. The warm weather didn't have the desired effects they had hoped for. It seems it's rather enjoying our hot summer days.

Still not sure this is true based on how quickly it spread early on. I think we've more or less abandoned social distancing and we're still for the most part spreading slowly. And I still think that's probably a good thing, sa we don't want to get into cold and flu season with a still more or less unexposed population.

[Liverpooldawg]

For the love of goodness can people figure out what the Pga tour commissioner has figured out... it's here with us. We are going to have to learnt to live with it, it's not going anywhere anytime soon! With all this MS has a less than a confirmed 1% infection rate of the entire state. 17k+ Of 22k+ are no longer infected. Half of the deaths are in LTC units. Let those numbers run through you head and tell me what's the proper response?? And sitting at home isn't the right one.

Golf is outside and naturally socially distanced. Most people had golf as THE sport that could come back if any could.

[Liverpooldawg]

5 months ago the same peeps said couldnt get it person to person. Then it went, not from surface to surface. Then hard to get surface to surface. In the same span, masks didn't matter, then they do, and then not so much, but keep wearing them.... but Liverpool has been consistent, you protect him, Bc he has a job that's important and you don't need to give it to him....

The reason I don't want to get it is I don't want to spread it. You could care less about that obviously. Information changes and the initial info was ALL from China. You are doing EXACTLY what the Chinese want. Keep doing your best to spread it. I wouldn't have come after you if you had not come after me.

[confucius say]

St D opened up a new floor for covid only.

But closed 2/3 of its covid only icu and that part is now back to general icu. So that's good.

Of the 22 deaths yesterday, 12 were from May and early June. 21 of 22 deaths were over 50.
We are averaging about 8 deaths a day the last few weeks, which is better. Will be interesting to see if deaths go back up with all the new cases.

[iPat09]

Well, 1,092 new cases being reported today, with 5 new deaths.

[hacker]

Well, 1,092 new cases being reported today, with 5 new deaths.

Previous high was 611 a couple days ago

[starkvegasdawg]

Isaquena county finally off the board. They had their first two cases.

[hacker]

1092 new cases reported
4178 new tests reported

26% positive

[starkvegasdawg]

1092 new cases reported
4178 new tests reported

26% positive

How does that positive rate compare to historical average?

[confucius say]

591 of those 1092 are under 40
750 of those 1092 are under 50.

4 of the 5 deaths are over 60.

Hospitalizations are up
ICU and vents are not.

[hacker]

How does that positive rate compare to historical average?

It's 9.2% positive overall, up from 8.95% overall yesterday

[hacker]

591 of those 1092 are under 40
750 of those 1092 are under 50.

4 of the 5 deaths are over 60.

Hospitalizations are up
ICU and vents are not.

I wish they'd add a suspected ICU/vent line on the graph. With the way it is now, if I'm reading it correctly, we don't know if any of the 200+ suspected infections are in an ICU or not (see first asterisk).

[confucius say]

I wish they'd add a suspected ICU/vent line on the graph. With the way it is now, if I'm reading it correctly, we don't know if any of the 200+ suspected infections are in an ICU or not (see first asterisk).

Interesting. I would read that graph then to say if they are suspected infection cases and icu/vent and then go from to confirmed cases and still icu/vent, they would be added to the icu/vent line.

[Johnson85]

I wish they'd add a suspected ICU/vent line on the graph. With the way it is now, if I'm reading it correctly, we don't know if any of the 200+ suspected infections are in an ICU or not (see first asterisk).

Not sure that's an issue either way. Everybody with suspected infections are tested, so presumably by the time they need a vent they are probably either confirmed or not. I guess the exception would be if somebody didn't want to get tested and then delayed going to the hospital as long as possible, they might end up on a vent before getting any tests back.

[hacker]

Not sure that's an issue either way. Everybody with suspected infections are tested, so presumably by the time they need a vent they are probably either confirmed or not. I guess the exception would be if somebody didn't want to get tested and then delayed going to the hospital as long as possible, they might end up on a vent before getting any tests back.

Yeah, you're probably right. I just found the asterisk strange

[msstate7]

MDHS shows there have been 11,330 antibody tests, but doesn't give results. If antibody tests are counting as daily cases, that number should be given with an asterisk

[iPat09]

MDHS shows there have been 11,330 antibody tests, but doesn't give results. If antibody tests are counting as daily cases, that number should be given with an asterisk

I think I remember Dr. Dobbs saying the number of positive antibody tests is so small that it doesn't matter. (I might be wrong on that. Been to so many of the press conferences, they begin to blur) I do agree though. Even if it's just one positive that is a result of an antibody test, let us know.

[msstate7]

I think I remember Dr. Dobbs saying the number of positive antibody tests is so small that it doesn't matter. (I might be wrong on that. Been to so many of the press conferences, they begin to blur) I do agree though. Even if it's just one positive that is a result of an antibody test, let us know.

That's a BS answer from him. I agree with you

ETA... and the antibody positives will grow with time. There's no justifiable reason to not release that info

[Liverpooldawg]

That's a BS answer from him. I agree with you

ETA... and the antibody positives will grow with time. There's no justifiable reason to not release that info

Nobody puts much stock in the antibodies tests. They are not that accurate.

[Homedawg]

Nobody puts much stock in the antibodies tests. They are not that accurate.

Then don't include them in the positves

[msstate7]

Then don't include them in the positves

Exactly.

[Homedawg]

Exactly.

we have 23424 "positives" 1011 deaths and at least 17242 recovered. I say at least, bc they only update the recovered once a week so we don't have that number now. I find it interesting that a bunch of states are reporting recovered at all. Wonder why?????

[Liverpooldawg]

591 of those 1092 are under 40
750 of those 1092 are under 50.

4 of the 5 deaths are over 60.

Hospitalizations are up
ICU and vents are not.

And how many people over 60 and/or with health problems will they spread it too? Did you see the story about surprise party in Texas that only had the young crowd at it? There were 25 people there, ONE had it, 9 of them got it and spread it to 9 more who weren't there. Three are now in the hospital, one won't make it, one more may not. This is all in one family. The two worst are a set of grandparents.

[Liverpooldawg]

Then don't include them in the positves

There aren't that many positives by all accounts. That in itself is scary.

[Homedawg]

There aren't that many positives by all accounts. That in itself is scary.

How do you know? You yourself said the test wasn't accurate.

[msstate7]

CDC estimates 10 times as many U.S. coronavirus cases than have been reported

https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/cdc-estimates-10-times-as-many-us-coronavirus-cases-than-have-been-reported-2020-06-25

[Liverpooldawg]

How do you know? You yourself said the test wasn't accurate.

And you were setting great store by it. FYI: Dobbs said it in his PC yesterday.

[hacker]

we have 23424 "positives" 1011 deaths and at least 17242 recovered. I say at least, bc they only update the recovered once a week so we don't have that number now. I find it interesting that a bunch of states are reporting recovered at all. Wonder why?????

It's a hoax!

[msstate7]

It's a hoax!

Well I think it's a valid point. When you look at cumulative case numbers, it would be valuable to know how many active cases there were at any given point.

[hacker]

Well I think it's a valid point. When you look at cumulative case numbers, it would be valuable to know how many active cases there were at any given point.

I don't disagree. Ethiopia is giving its citizens better data than we're getting. I think our government is just inept

[Homedawg]

It's a hoax!

Obviously sarcasm, I get it. But less than 1 percent of the state and the nation have officially tested positive. Even if you go w 7's link that's not even 10% of country. Gonna have to live through it and hope and pray.....

[Commercecomet24]

Obviously sarcasm, I get it. But less than 1 percent of the state and the nation have officially tested positive. Even if you go w 7's link that's not even 10% of country. Gonna have to live through it and hope and pray.....

This. Got to keep moving forward.

[hacker]

Obviously sarcasm, I get it. But less than 1 percent of the state and the nation have officially tested positive. Even if you go w 7's link that's not even 10% of country. Gonna have to live through it and hope and pray.....

I did look at his link. My observation was that less than 10% of the population has been infected and 125k people are already dead. We got a ways to go.

[msstate7]

I did look at his link. My observation was that less than 10% of the population has been infected and 125k people are already dead. We got a ways to go.

If you go with the CDC's guess, that's puts death rate at 0.5% (126k deaths/25 million cases). The death rate among documented cases is falling significantly too.

[confucius say]

Yep. Cases are at an all time high and deaths as low as they've been since March

[Joebob]

If you go with the CDC's guess, that's puts death rate at 0.5% (126k deaths/25 million cases). The death rate among documented cases is falling significantly too.

It's no longer the fatality rate that I'm most worried about. It's all the long term complications that are being reported by people that have survived. The odds may be low that it would happen to any particular person, but some of this shit that people are reporting is just awful.

[Liverpooldawg]

I don't disagree. Ethiopia is giving its citizens better data than we're getting. I think our government is just inept

I wouldn't argue with that, and it pains me to do so.

[Liverpooldawg]

It's no longer the fatality rate that I'm most worried about. It's all the long term complications that are being reported by people that have survived. The odds may be low that it would happen to any particular person, but some of this shit that people are reporting is just awful.

Yep, its gruesome, but mention that to these boys.

[msstate7]

It's no longer the fatality rate that I'm most worried about. It's all the long term complications that are being reported by people that have survived. The odds may be low that it would happen to any particular person, but some of this shit that people are reporting is just awful.

I was interested in this, so I searched for an article. This AP News article describes some of the lasting effects, but the expert said most of these go away.

https://apnews.com/113bef255eb0c33570f77e33515a6ca6

[Liverpooldawg]

I was interested in this, so I searched for an article. This AP News article describes some of the lasting effects, but the expert said most of these go away.

https://apnews.com/113bef255eb0c33570f77e33515a6ca6

Maybe so, HOPEFULLY so, but we don't know that yet. This thing is NEW. But hey, our ignorant population when it comes to healthcare and, OBVIOSLY, science, say its no big deal. Live it up! It's only a cold, RIGHT?

[msstate7]

Maybe so, HOPEFULLY so, but we don't know that yet. This thing is NEW. But hey, our ignorant population when it comes to healthcare and, OBVIOSLY, science, say its no big deal. Live it up! It's only a cold, RIGHT?

This is directly from article...

"Most symptoms appear to eventually go away, said Dr. Thomas McGinn of the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research in New York, who was involved in one of the largest U.S. studies of COVID-19 patients.

?It?s just a matter of when. For some patients it may take longer than others,? McGinn said.

...

He seems pretty certain. Is he right? I have no idea.

[Homedawg]

Yep, its gruesome, but mention that to these boys.

I don't disagree it's gruesome. But what do you want me to do about it? I can wear a mask. At some point everyone is going to get exposed. And a mask isn't going to save you anyway if it was, how in the hell ya e all the medical people gotten it??

[Liverpooldawg]

WEAR YOUR DAMN MASK. We have ALWAYS worn ours to protect YOU. The first time it is suggested for you to wear one to protect us....you totally ingrate bastards refuse. I'm specifically referring to YOU, Homedawg. That being said, we will treat you even if you are the absolute imbecile you appear to be, that is our job. SHOW US THE SAME RESPECT WE SHOW YOU.

[Liverpooldawg]

This is directly from article...

"Most symptoms appear to eventually go away, said Dr. Thomas McGinn of the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research in New York, who was involved in one of the largest U.S. studies of COVID-19 patients.

?It?s just a matter of when. For some patients it may take longer than others,? McGinn said.

...

He seems pretty certain. Is he right? I have no idea.

If he is CERTAIN then by all means hang your hat on it. It's only 3/4 months in to a totally new highly infectious disease. He obviously has it all figured out. What was his name again so I can start raising money to build a monument to him in his home town. I think it might be a bit premature in DC. HOOPFULLY it isn't.

[msstate7]

If he is CERTAIN then by all means hang your hat on it. It's only 3/4 months in to a totally new highly infectious disease. He obviously has it all figured out. What was his name again so I can start raising money to build a monument to him in his home town. I think it might be a bit premature in DC. HOOPFULLY it isn't.

You need to break out the screwdriver and tighten the hinges.

[msstate7]

https://i.postimg.cc/W3mVDsK8/2-B21742-D-907-F-424-C-9-D49-FE7393127385.jpg (https://postimg.cc/CBKXXpwn)

https://twitter.com/avik/status/1276490546471677952?s=21

[dparker]

You know Florida is the place that fired the person updating those numbers because they wouldn't fudge them, right?


https://i.postimg.cc/W3mVDsK8/2-B21742-D-907-F-424-C-9-D49-FE7393127385.jpg (https://postimg.cc/CBKXXpwn)

https://twitter.com/avik/status/1276490546471677952?s=21

[Johnson85]

You know Florida is the place that fired the person updating those numbers because they wouldn't fudge them, right?

Yea, probably not? It's kind of hard to tell who is full of shit these days since pretty much every news outlet is willing to set torch to their credibility for a few extra clicks. I'm making my guess against the person with the arrest record, although that's not a great way to decide.

https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/05/20/rebekah-jones-firing-is-the-covid-clickbait-the-media-dreams-of-but-its-all-fake/


https://cbs12.com/news/local/covid-19-dashboard-designer-faces-cyber-sexual-harassment-charges-desantis-says

[Turfdawg67]

You know Florida is the place that fired the person updating those numbers because they wouldn't fudge them, right?

Lolz! Exactly.

[hacker]

I never thought I'd be typing this, but listening to Pence's press conference is a breath of fresh air. Relatively speaking.

[Prediction? Pain.]

https://i.postimg.cc/W3mVDsK8/2-B21742-D-907-F-424-C-9-D49-FE7393127385.jpg (https://postimg.cc/CBKXXpwn)

https://twitter.com/avik/status/1276490546471677952?s=21

My county in Tennessee -- Hamilton County, where Chattanooga is located -- reports those figures daily, too. Florida's curve appears to skew a little older than my county's. For instance, the chart in the dude's tweet shows that 18% of cases in Florida are in people older than 65. In Hamilton County, cases among people 61 and older account for only 8% of the total cases. Likewise, while 36% of Florida's deaths are in those 85 or older, only 10% of Hamilton County deaths are in people 81 or older. Granted, the elderly are still the ones at the highest risk of death here, but it's not the oldest bracket that's been disproportionately hit -- the biggest brackets here are 61 - 70 and 71 - 80. They combine for 55% of our deaths. Every other age bracket accounts for 10% or less.

Also, it's impressive that there haven't been any child deaths from COVID in the entire state of Florida. In Chattanooga alone, two kids under the age of 10 have died from COVID.

This may be neither here nor there, but I just went to read a little more about hospitalizations in Florida and it looks like the governor recently decided to alter the way hospitalization data (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-coronavirus-icu-bed-reporting-rules-change-20200623-dmf4p5nf3few5mvjvh53vixewm-story.html) is calculated for COVID cases.

[hacker]

Florida with 8942 cases reported today and 137 deaths. Previous highs were 5508 cases, 83 deaths.

[msstate7]

My county in Tennessee -- Hamilton County, where Chattanooga is located -- reports those figures daily, too. Florida's curve appears to skew a little older than my county's. For instance, the chart in the dude's tweet shows that 18% of cases in Florida are in people older than 65. In Hamilton County, cases among people 61 and older account for only 8% of the total cases. Likewise, while 36% of Florida's deaths are in those 85 or older, only 10% of Hamilton County deaths are in people 81 or older. Granted, the elderly are still the ones at the highest risk of death here, but it's not the oldest bracket that's been disproportionately hit -- the biggest brackets here are 61 - 70 and 71 - 80. They combine for 55% of our deaths. Every other age bracket accounts for 10% or less.

Also, it's impressive that there haven't been any child deaths from COVID in the entire state of Florida. In Chattanooga alone, two kids under the age of 10 have died from COVID.

This may be neither here nor there, but I just went to read a little more about hospitalizations in Florida and it looks like the governor recently decided to alter the way hospitalization data (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-coronavirus-icu-bed-reporting-rules-change-20200623-dmf4p5nf3few5mvjvh53vixewm-story.html) is calculated for COVID cases.

Mississippi has no deaths under 18

[msstate7]

Florida with 8942 cases reported today and 137 deaths. Previous highs were 5508 cases, 83 deaths.

Worldometers has your case number but 39 deaths

[Homedawg]

Worldometers has your case number but 39 deaths

39 is the number the state reported. Not sure where he got his number.

[hacker]

Worldometers has your case number but 39 deaths

Yeah, I dunno, I saw it here: https://nypost.com/2020/06/26/florida-doubles-its-previous-coronavirus-record-with-8942-cases/

Deaths in the peninsula are also skyrocketing with 137 new deaths reported Friday, the Department of Health announced, bringing the statewide death toll “north of 3,400,” the Herald reported.

The number of deceased patients nearly tripled overnight. On Thursday, just 46 deaths were reported.

[hacker]

This local news also says 137

https://www.wpbf.com/article/coronavirus-in-south-florida-june-26/32981199

[msstate7]

That's weird. Here's state's report. It matches worldometers data

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/

[Jack Lambert]

That's weird. Here's state's report. It matches worldometers data

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/

Whats weird about it? The media lies.

[dantheman4248]

Wouldn't doubt that the actual case count is significantly higher since we've openly admitted to suppressing testing and are actively stopping federal testing while Texas and Florida close up again due to outbreaks. Somehow we've reached the point where people simultaneously say "it wasn't that bad what were we wearing masks for" and "see wearing masks does nothing because it's still rising."

The truth is our leadership failed the American people and have blood all over their hands. This shit just keeps climbing higher and higher and higher. It's sad as hell and could have largely been mitigated. If you have friends and family in Houston, pray for em. If not, pray for those of us who do. We really ****ed this up to where all we can do is send thoughts, prayers, and whine about wearing masks.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Wouldn't doubt that the actual case count is significantly higher since we've openly admitted to suppressing testing and are actively stopping federal testing while Texas and Florida close up again due to outbreaks. Somehow we've reached the point where people simultaneously say "it wasn't that bad what were we wearing masks for" and "see wearing masks does nothing because it's still rising."

The truth is our leadership failed the American people and have blood all over their hands. This shit just keeps climbing higher and higher and higher. It's sad as hell and could have largely been mitigated. If you have friends and family in Houston, pray for em. If not, pray for those of us who do. We really ****ed this up to where all we can do is send thoughts, prayers, and whine about wearing masks.

Good to see you back from the banned list.

While you're further out there on some issues than I am, I will give you credit for questioning the PPP loan situation and we are now seeing where there was absolutely no oversight on managing those loan amounts.

Fauci himself came out a few weeks ago and said that initially they said not to wear masks because they were fearful of the supply available. It wasn't until they felt like they had an adequate supply did they reverse course and inform everyone to begin wearing masks. What you're seeing now is a continued delegation of responsibilities so that they can absolve themselves of the consequences. The Cornoa Task Force was suspended, even though we now have more cases than we've ever had, and the ball sent to the states. The Governors have taken the ball and then punted to the local politicians. Not sure where the locals are to kick it to, but it seems like they've decided to simply say it is "personal responsibility".

I, personally, think that it should be up to the general public as long as health organizations are not being over taxed. The reason people are over this whole thing is because we tried to paint the situation with too broad of a brush in the beginning when it should have been localized to monitor the spread.

[dantheman4248]

Good to see you back from the banned list.

While you're further out there on some issues than I am, I will give you credit for questioning the PPP loan situation and we are now seeing where there was absolutely no oversight on managing those loan amounts.

Fauci himself came out a few weeks ago and said that initially they said not to wear masks because they were fearful of the supply available. It wasn't until they felt like they had an adequate supply did they reverse course and inform everyone to begin wearing masks. What you're seeing now is a continued delegation of responsibilities so that they can absolve themselves of the consequences. The Cornoa Task Force was suspended, even though we now have more cases than we've ever had, and the ball sent to the states. The Governors have taken the ball and then punted to the local politicians. Not sure where the locals are to kick it to, but it seems like they've decided to simply say it is "personal responsibility".

I, personally, think that it should be up to the general public as long as health organizations are not being over taxed. The reason people are over this whole thing is because we tried to paint the situation with too broad of a brush in the beginning when it should have been localized to monitor the spread.

Thanks. I took my time off to gain some perspective of the other side. Haven't turned CNN on in a week. Only Fox News for me. Watched that rally. Good stuff. If you like netflix stand-up. Embarrassing that that's our president. The glass of water routine was pure comedy. But I don't want Bill Burr to be my president.

The money stuff was easy to see from a mile away. That's been his MO and honestly has been how politicians line their pockets just with gentlemen's agreement to not do it that blatantly. Also cut everybody in and not just his cronies.

As for your last point. I wonder if we hadn't disbanded the pandemic task force that Obama had left behind that they would have recommended that. We'll never know but just something to think about.

It's insane to me this guy was supposed to bring in the best and deferred blame on everyone he hired or kept as if it's not his fault they aren't the best. The only campaign promise he kept was that we'd get sick of winning. He just misspoke. Meant to say we'd be winning at being sick.

Wear a mask. It protects others and not you.

[Gordon Gekko]

WEAR YOUR DAMN MASK. We have ALWAYS worn ours to protect YOU. The first time it is suggested for you to wear one to protect us....you totally ingrate bastards refuse. I'm specifically referring to YOU, Homedawg. That being said, we will treat you even if you are the absolute imbecile you appear to be, that is our job. SHOW US THE SAME RESPECT WE SHOW YOU.

Post a link to your tik tok video dancing in PPE

[msstate7]

Post a link to your tik tok video dancing in PPE

Glad you still around. Post more

[Homedawg]

WEAR YOUR DAMN MASK. We have ALWAYS worn ours to protect YOU. The first time it is suggested for you to wear one to protect us....you totally ingrate bastards refuse. I'm specifically referring to YOU, Homedawg. That being said, we will treat you even if you are the absolute imbecile you appear to be, that is our job. SHOW US THE SAME RESPECT WE SHOW YOU.
I'm not sure how I missed this, however, I'd love to know how you know I don't wear a mask. You don't. And would be incorrect. My pops on you are Bc you want to protect you and you're job. When it's reality it's your job to protect yourself. I'll wear my mask. So carry your pompous ass somewhere else. But if you want total protection, just stay inside and stop bitching.

[dantheman4248]

I'm not sure how I missed this, however, I'd love to know how you know I don't wear a mask. You don't. And would be incorrect. My pops on you are Bc you want to protect you and you're job. When it's reality it's your job to protect yourself. I'll wear my mask. So carry your pompous ass somewhere else. But if you want total protection, just stay inside and stop bitching.

I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people. Fundamental difference of basic decency I guess

[hacker]

Does anyone know which of our ICUs are supposedly full? First I've seen of this.

1277033292672274433

[Homedawg]

I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people. Fundamental difference of basic decency I guess

You can't fing read. Guess they went to shut when you were banned..... I wear a mask. What do you want me to do?? I know you want the government to put it on for me. But I can do it all by myself. And do.

[Liverpooldawg]

I'm not sure how I missed this, however, I'd love to know how you know I don't wear a mask. You don't. And would be incorrect. My pops on you are Bc you want to protect you and you're job. When it's reality it's your job to protect yourself. I'll wear my mask. So carry your pompous ass somewhere else. But if you want total protection, just stay inside and stop bitching.
Lol, you don't have a clue. I'll tell you what I want to protect. I'm in my 50s and I'm pretty healthy. I'm not overweight. My personal chances are pretty good. That being said I have a very high occupational risk of getting it. I also have a type one diabetic wife. THAT is where I'm coming from. You are SUCH a jerk.

[msstate7]

Lol, you don't have a clue. I'll tell you what I want to protect. I'm in my 50s and I'm pretty healthy. I'm not overweight. My personal chances are pretty good. That being said I have a very high occupational risk of getting it. I also have a type one diabetic wife. THAT is where I'm coming from. You are SUCH a jerk.

Well I hope your wife doesn't get it, and I hope like hell my parents don't either. I don't think the world should stop though to protect my parents or your wife.

[Homedawg]

Lol, you don't have a clue. I'll tell you what I want to protect. I'm in my 50s and I'm pretty healthy. I'm not overweight. My personal chances are pretty good. That being said I have a very high occupational risk of getting it. I also have a type one diabetic wife. THAT is where I'm coming from. You are SUCH a jerk.

So I wear a mask, and I'm a jerk??. Gotcha. Whatever fits your agenda bro.

[Liverpooldawg]

So I wear a mask, and I'm a jerk??. Gotcha. Whatever fits your agenda bro.
No, you are a jerk, period. At least based on you posting.

[Liverpooldawg]

Well I hope your wife doesn't get it, and I hope like hell my parents don't either. I don't think the world should stop though to protect my parents or your wife.
Nor do I. But there are simple things we can all do that don't involve stopping the world. We aren't being asked to walk into machine gun fire. Wearing a mask, staying at home when we don't have to be out, and not congregating in large groups ain't Omaha Beach.

[Liverpooldawg]

Also my mom is still around and doing well. So are my wife's folks. I don't want to pass it to them either, and I have been staying away.

[Jack Lambert]

Does anyone know which of our ICUs are supposedly full? First I've seen of this.

1277033292672274433

It was explain by the LT Governor of Texas on Fox News that all the ICU's in Texas were divided up leaving some specifically for Covid and other specifically for other illness. It is the ICU's set aside for other Illness that is at 95% capacity. The ICU's set aside for Covid are in really good shape.

[Liverpooldawg]

It was explain by the LT Governor of Texas on Fox News that all the ICU's in Texas were divided up leaving some specifically for Covid and other specifically for other illness. It is the ICU's set aside for other Illness that is at 95% capacity. The ICU's set aside for Covid are in really good shape.

I guess that's why the Houston Children's Hospital ICU is now taking adults. That's pretty much unheard of in the United States. 🙄

[Jack Lambert]

I guess that's why the Houston Children's Hospital ICU is now taking adults. That's pretty much unheard of in the United States. ��

From what he said the set a certain number of the total of all ICU's and set a certain number aside for Covid 19. I guess they are using children's because 95% of ICU beds set aside for other illness are being used. If he was lying someone would have pointed it out. I am just going by what he said.

[dantheman4248]

From what he said the set a certain number of the total of all ICU's and set a certain number aside for Covid 19. I guess they are using children's because 95% of ICU beds set aside for other illness are being used. If he was lying someone would have pointed it out. I am just going by what he said.

From what Trump said the president is a disgrace if he plays golf while employed and we've had the best response to this pandemic. So take what these jackasses "say" with a grain of salt.

Look at actions not words.

[hacker]

Worldometers added a Mississippi subpage

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/mississippi/

[msstate7]

Worldometers added a Mississippi subpage

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/mississippi/

Hit the big time now. Not a good thing though

[confucius say]

I wish when they added deaths from a month back, or even days back, they positioned them accordingly on the daily death chart. Would give a more accurate chart.

[hacker]

I wish when they added deaths from a month back, or even days back, they positioned them accordingly on the daily death chart. Would give a more accurate chart.

If you're talking about worldometers, they can't because the state doesn't provide that info

[msstate7]

285 deaths in US today. That's a really good number considering deaths rose with cases at the beginning (March - april). It doesn't appear to be the case anymore.

[WinningIsRelentless]

285 deaths in US today. That's a really good number considering deaths rose with cases at the beginning (March - april). It doesn't appear to be the case anymore.

The deaths have always lagged 2-4 weeks behind the positive test.

[msstate7]

https://i.postimg.cc/jdVnDskT/94-C740-B2-5567-4-A19-B2-D6-997315656-AD2.png (https://postimg.cc/9zpQSjhg)

https://i.postimg.cc/vmScbM6p/7-BC8-A70-D-8816-4-A28-A44-C-3-A89-AAB43-DDF.png (https://postimg.cc/sB7V4kmc)

Looks like they rose together. Check the dates.

[msstate7]

April 24th was the peak up until recently. April 20th was peak of deaths with steady drop after that. Should be a peak 2 weeks after April 24th if you're correct.

[Homedawg]

https://i.postimg.cc/jdVnDskT/94-C740-B2-5567-4-A19-B2-D6-997315656-AD2.png (https://postimg.cc/9zpQSjhg)

https://i.postimg.cc/vmScbM6p/7-BC8-A70-D-8816-4-A28-A44-C-3-A89-AAB43-DDF.png (https://postimg.cc/sB7V4kmc)

Looks like they rose together. Check the dates.

Don't let facts get in the way

[Todd4State]

https://i.postimg.cc/jdVnDskT/94-C740-B2-5567-4-A19-B2-D6-997315656-AD2.png (https://postimg.cc/9zpQSjhg)

https://i.postimg.cc/vmScbM6p/7-BC8-A70-D-8816-4-A28-A44-C-3-A89-AAB43-DDF.png (https://postimg.cc/sB7V4kmc)

Looks like they rose together. Check the dates.

This makes me wonder if we're actually in a second peak now but the COVID virus is getting less lethal.

[dparker]

The deaths have always lagged 2-4 weeks behind the positive test.

This bears repeating. The reported daily cases started increasing again around June 12.

[msstate7]

This bears repeating. The reported daily cases started increasing again around June 12.

Using 7-day avg, US peak in cases until just recently was April 11th at 32,459. Death peak was April 17th at 2,248. Looking at 7-day avg for NY, same thing... April 9th was peak cases, 9,999 and deaths was April 13th, 956.

Deaths have continued to fall in the US, and I think the main reason is median age of cases now. Younger people are getting it.

[Johnson85]

This makes me wonder if we're actually in a second peak now but the COVID virus is getting less lethal.

I think we're getting better at treating it and have stopped doing things that were harmful (like putting people on vents to quickly), and that's making a difference, but I think the biggest deal is just so much of our early numbers were driven by New York, which basically acted like they needed to save the government some money by killing off nursing home patients more quickly.

[confucius say]

This makes me wonder if we're actually in a second peak now but the COVID virus is getting less lethal.

I've read at least two articles by doctors who think this. They believe any slight mutation which has occurred has actually weakened the virus. I still believe younger people getting it is the main driver though.

[confucius say]

Cases are at an all time high with deaths at an all time low. That is incredible to think about.

There will be a rise in deaths Monday through Thursday as compared to this past Saturday and Sunday because the counts during the week have almost always been higher than the weekend. But the key will be whether that rise in deaths is way higher than the previous two weeks and look more like late April numbers, or look more like what we've seen the last two weeks. I suspect the latter.

[Liverpooldawg]

Cases are at an all time high with deaths at an all time low. That is incredible to think about.

There will be a rise in deaths Monday through Thursday as compared to this past Saturday and Sunday because the counts during the week have almost always been higher than the weekend. But the key will be whether that rise in deaths is way higher than the previous two weeks and look more like late April numbers, or look more like what we've seen the last two weeks. I suspect the latter.

The new spike is mostly among young people.

[WinningIsRelentless]

285 deaths in US today. That's a really good number considering deaths rose with cases at the beginning (March - april). It doesn't appear to be the case anymore.


April 24th was the peak up until recently. April 20th was peak of deaths with steady drop after that. Should be a peak 2 weeks after April 24th if you're correct.

Look at the numbers x LTC and get back to me.

[FISHDAWG]

The new spike is mostly among young people.

yep ... my son was just diagnosed ... when he was with us in Atlanta in the epicenter of Georgia no problem ... he moved up to our other place in Tennessee where it was non-existent (so to speak) on our farm with wide open spaces and very little contact with others he came down with it ... Friday night bonfire at the farm with about a dozen others his age

[confucius say]

Monday's numbers show 2 new "covid 19 related deaths" and 18 additional reported deaths which occurred from May 5 - June 22.

Those 18 suck for sure, but the fact that there were only 2 new deaths from Sunday continues the drop in deaths. We are now averaging 5 deaths a day over the last ten days.

[hacker]

I made a little app to keep track of daily / historical updates on the county level. It grabs the state update every day and then compares it to the previous update for a quick glance at new cases/deaths per county. You can also click on a county to see historical updates. The updates start at 6/27 because that's when I started tracking the data. I should've done this 3 months ago, but better late than never.

http://ms-covid-tracker.herokuapp.com/

Mess around with it, let me know what you think. I'll probably add graphs soon.

[msstate7]

I made a little app to keep track of daily / historical updates on the county level. It grabs the state update every day and then compares it to the previous update for a quick glance at new cases/deaths per county. You can also click on a county to see historical updates. The updates start at 6/27 because that's when I started tracking the data. I should've done this 3 months ago, but better late than never.

http://ms-covid-tracker.herokuapp.com/

Mess around with it, let me know what you think. I'll probably add graphs soon.

Looks good.

[msstate7]

https://i.postimg.cc/mD9wv309/7-D9862-D0-2-B2-C-4-A25-8-FA9-EC8-CE8-D4-F0-B2.png (https://postimages.org/)

[smootness]

There's no doubt that this is either much less potent than it was, or the true number of cases is not going up and just way more people, especially young people, are being tested. I'm inclined to believe it's partly due to both, but more the former.

[Commercecomet24]

There's no doubt that this is either much less potent than it was, or the true number of cases is not going up and just way more people, especially young people, are being tested. I'm inclined to believe it's partly due to both, but more the former.

I've talked with 2 infectious disease doctors I know very well, one at UAB and one at UPMC in Pittsburgh. Their studies are showing the virus is weakening and more young people are being exposed/tested and the young and healthy are not suffering very many adverse affects from the virus, thus the declining death rate. Both of these doctors have been doing this for over 20 years so I value their opinion.

[confucius say]

14 new deaths today. That's higher than sat, sun, mon, but tuesdays and Wednesday's always are. Will be interesting to see if 7 day average moves this week.

Of the 14 today, All were over 50. 12/14 over 60.

So far, 1073 deaths.
0 under 20.
.6% of deaths are under 30.
2.2% of deaths are under 40.
6.5% of deaths are under 50.
15.5% of deaths are under 60.

So 84.5% of deaths are over 60.

[msstate7]

14 new deaths today. That's higher than sat, sun, mon, but tuesdays and Wednesday's always are. Will be interesting to see if 7 day average moves this week.

Of the 14 today, All were over 50. 12/14 over 60.

So far, 1073 deaths.
0 under 20.
.6% of deaths are under 30.
2.2% of deaths are under 40.
6.5% of deaths are under 50.
15.5% of deaths are under 60.

So 84.5% of deaths are over 60.

What % of total cases are over 60?

[confucius say]

What % of total cases are over 60?

25%

[confucius say]

For hospitalization rates:

3% of positive cases under 40
4.5% of positive cases under 50
6.2% of positive cases under 60

27.9% of positive cases over 60.

[msstate7]

25%

Wow

[hacker]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbyvA6zUYAAqDGV?format=jpg&name=medium

A couple things here:

- The % positive is growing week over week. That means infections are growing faster than our tests are increasing. You can also see how the case slope is steeper than the test slope. We're finding more cases than we did in March or April for sure, but when you compare it to a week or two ago, infection spread is the main driver in the increase in cases. It's not just because we're testing more.

- The uptick in hospitalizations just started about a week ago. On average, it takes 2 weeks from hospitalization to death. Then there's usually about a week lag before it's included in numbers. I think we're about 7-14 days from seeing an uptick in deaths.

[confucius say]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbyvA6zUYAAqDGV?format=jpg&name=medium

A couple things here:

- The % positive is growing week over week. That means infections are growing faster than our tests are increasing. You can also see how the case slope is steeper than the test slope. We're finding more cases than we did in March or April for sure, but when you compare it to a week or two ago, infection spread is the main driver in the increase in cases. It's not just because we're testing more.

- The uptick in hospitalizations just started about a week ago. On average, it takes 2 weeks from hospitalization to death. Then there's usually about a week lag before it's included in numbers. I think we're about 7-14 days from seeing an uptick in deaths.

I think the next few days is the real test (no pun intended). We have seen an enormous jump in positive cases the last three weeks. Like incredible. So far deaths have continued to plummet. Today was the lowest Tuesday death count we've had. If the 7 day rolling death count doesn't increase dramatically the next week given the incredible uptick in positive cases, I think we are home free with respect to deaths.

[msstate7]

So what's a good vacation spot during the pandemic? I was going to do 1 of 2 things this year: Las Vegas for saints-raiders game or Macy's thanksgiving day parade. I doubt seriously fans are allowed in nfl games, and having to wear a mask in public in Las Vegas during September is very unappealing. NY has a travel ban on us, and even if they didn't, Macy's thanksgiving day parade will be canceled. Large cities aren't looking like good spots, period. Any suggestions for more rural destinations that covid isn't as likely to affect?

[dawgday166]

So what's a good vacation spot during the pandemic? I was going to do 1 of 2 things this year: Las Vegas for saints-raiders game or Macy's thanksgiving day parade. I doubt seriously fans are allowed in nfl games, and having to wear a mask in public in Las Vegas during September is very unappealing. NY has a travel ban on us, and even if they didn't, Macy's thanksgiving day parade will be canceled. Large cities aren't looking like good spots, period. Any suggestions for more rural destinations that covid isn't as likely to affect?

When I wanna get away I usually travel down to Philadelphia, MS myself.

[Todd4State]

I think the next few days is the real test (no pun intended). We have seen an enormous jump in positive cases the last three weeks. Like incredible. So far deaths have continued to plummet. Today was the lowest Tuesday death count we've had. If the 7 day rolling death count doesn't increase dramatically the next week given the incredible uptick in positive cases, I think we are home free with respect to deaths.

My theory which is definitely not politically correct is that this spike is due at least in part to the protests about two weeks ago. Which is in line with how COVID is thought by many to propagate.

But yeah- that dive bar down the street...

[dawgday166]

My theory which is definitely not politically correct is that this spike is due at least in part to the protests about two weeks ago. Which is in line with how COVID is thought by many to propagate.

But yeah- that dive bar down the street...

I got a theory that folks who drink a lot don't get it hardly at all. I don't think a lot of homeless folks are getting it. Alcohol kills it.

[msstate7]

When I wanna get away I usually travel down to Philadelphia, MS myself.

I was thinking of at least leaving town haha

[dawgday166]

I was thinking of at least leaving town haha

TTown?? Hanging out in TTown telling Bama fans they suck sounds like a nice getaway ****

Seriously tho ... If I wanted to travel right now, I'd go to South Dakota, see Mount Rushmore before those guys are replaced with Lenin, Stalin, etc.

Then I'd swing over to the Governor's mansion and see if I could convince her to leave her husband and marry me **** I wouldn't mind getting coffee for her every morning. I'd even cook breakfast every morning for her haha.

[msstate7]

TTown?? Hanging out in TTown telling Bama fans they suck sounds like a nice getaway ****

Seriously tho ... If I wanted to travel right now, I'd go to South Dakota, see Mount Rushmore before those guys are replaced with Lenin, Stalin, etc.

Then I'd swing over to the Governor's mansion and see if I could convince her to leave her husband and marry me **** I wouldn't mind getting coffee for her every morning. I'd even cook breakfast every morning for her haha.

I'd like to see Mount Rushmore myself.

[confucius say]

I'd like to see Mount Rushmore myself.

Had a neighbor who went to a big lake in Arkansas. He said it was great. Pretty rural. They rented a boat.

[msstate7]

New research from Karolinska Institutet and Karolinska University Hospital shows that many people with mild or asymptomatic COVID-19 demonstrate so-called T-cell-mediated immunity to the new coronavirus, even if they have not tested positively for antibodies. According to the researchers, this means that public immunity is probably higher than antibody tests suggest. The article is freely available on the bioRxiv server and has been submitted for publication in a scientific journal.

https://news.ki.se/immunity-to-covid-19-is-probably-higher-than-tests-have-shown?_ga=2.140767861.677108381.1593454468-436267287.1454932504

[confucius say]

This is what I've been telling people. The T cells' response is more important than antibodies.

[Commercecomet24]

This is what I've been telling people. The T cells' response is more important than antibodies.

That's why a lot of treatments have included Zinc supplements. Zinc helps increase your body's T cell count. I used to have problems getting strep throat every winter. Doctor told me start taking zinc supplements and now I rarely even get a cold and haven't had strep in years. Not saying it's gonna stop everything but it sure helps and can't hurt.

[Johnson85]

So what's a good vacation spot during the pandemic? I was going to do 1 of 2 things this year: Las Vegas for saints-raiders game or Macy's thanksgiving day parade. I doubt seriously fans are allowed in nfl games, and having to wear a mask in public in Las Vegas during September is very unappealing. NY has a travel ban on us, and even if they didn't, Macy's thanksgiving day parade will be canceled. Large cities aren't looking like good spots, period. Any suggestions for more rural destinations that covid isn't as likely to affect?

1) Venice Louisiana for some fishing. Basically only exposed to your guide in the open air.
2) St. George Island Florida. Haven't been in a while, so it may be different, but about ten years ago, it was still very undeveloped and you could do beach and fishing without being crowded.
3) Smith Lake or Greers Ferry Lake. Get a lakehouse. REnt a boat if you don't have one. Spend a week skiing, drinking, swimming, and maybe fishing.

[Commercecomet24]

So what's a good vacation spot during the pandemic? I was going to do 1 of 2 things this year: Las Vegas for saints-raiders game or Macy's thanksgiving day parade. I doubt seriously fans are allowed in nfl games, and having to wear a mask in public in Las Vegas during September is very unappealing. NY has a travel ban on us, and even if they didn't, Macy's thanksgiving day parade will be canceled. Large cities aren't looking like good spots, period. Any suggestions for more rural destinations that covid isn't as likely to affect?

Give Leach a call maybe he'll let you hang with him in the keys for a few days lol

[confucius say]

5 new deaths reported today since yesterday.
Plus 4 from mid June.

So 9 total.
1 in their 50s; 1 in their 60s;
3 in 70s; 3 in 80s; 1 in 90s

Hospitals up.
Icu and vents down.

653 new cases, 570 of which were below 60.

So far, only 25% of cases have been over 60, but 85% of deaths have been over 60.

[msstate7]

1) Venice Louisiana for some fishing. Basically only exposed to your guide in the open air.
2) St. George Island Florida. Haven't been in a while, so it may be different, but about ten years ago, it was still very undeveloped and you could do beach and fishing without being crowded.
3) Smith Lake or Greers Ferry Lake. Get a lakehouse. REnt a boat if you don't have one. Spend a week skiing, drinking, swimming, and maybe fishing.

Been to #3 and loved it. Might check out 1 and 2. I did see an article about st George expecting record crowds this weekend, so who knows how long it will be open.

[msstate7]

Give Leach a call maybe he'll let you hang with him in the keys for a few days lol

He should. I made it my personal mission to destroy his predecessor haha

[Cowbell]

He should. I made it my personal mission to destroy his predecessor haha

He didn't need any help lol

[msstate7]

US over 50k cases today. Things like this don't help...

https://abcnews.go.com/US/alabama-students-throwing-covid-parties-infected-officials/story?id=71552514

Doesn't seem like much fun

[DownwardDawg]

I got a theory that folks who drink a lot don't get it hardly at all. I don't think a lot of homeless folks are getting it. Alcohol kills it.

Fact!!!

[Commercecomet24]

US over 50k cases today. Things like this don't help...

https://abcnews.go.com/US/alabama-students-throwing-covid-parties-infected-officials/story?id=71552514

Doesn't seem like much fun

Well that's just pure genius****

There's to many idiots in this world. Well at least it's alabama and not
Mississippi

[confucius say]

Deaths drop again today. Down almost 20% from last Wednesday. 7 day rolling trend is going to drop again this week.

Deaths should be rising, or at least staying the same with the huge increase in cases the last 21 days. Im not sure all of this can continue to just be chalked up to younger people getting it. Fewer Older people are dying too.

[KOdawg1]

Deaths drop again today. Down almost 20% from last Wednesday. 7 day rolling trend is going to drop again this week.

Deaths should be rising, or at least staying the same with the huge increase in cases the last 21 days. Im not sure all of this can continue to just be chalked up to younger people getting it. Fewer Older people are dying too.

I've seen various places say that the virus has mutated to a weaker strain.

[hacker]

Currently hospitalized patients increased by 187 in 5 days in MS.

June 27: 676
Yesterday: 863

[Dawg2003]

We're gonna have to stop doing elective procedures again.

[confucius say]

Currently hospitalized patients increased by 187 in 5 days in MS.

June 27: 676
Yesterday: 863

Does that include confirmed and suspected cases?

[msstate7]

Currently hospitalized patients increased by 187 in 5 days in MS.

June 27: 676
Yesterday: 863

Vents are same and ICU is actually down during same period

[Dawgfan77]

Does that include confirmed and suspected cases?

It's all how you view the data. Hospitalization is up fact. But that includes all those admitted not just covid.

[Dolphus Raymond]

Florida had 10,000 new COVID-19 cases today. I fear Dr. Fauci?s prediction of 100,000 new cases a day nationally will come to fruition sooner rather than later. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

[Dawgology]

Florida had 10,000 new COVID-19 cases today. I fear Dr. Fauci?s prediction of 100,000 new cases a day nationally will come to fruition sooner rather than later. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

And China.**

[Jarius]

Currently hospitalized patients increased by 187 in 5 days in MS.

June 27: 676
Yesterday: 863

Hospitals are allowing more patients now.

[Turfdawg67]

Florida had 10,000 new COVID-19 cases today. I fear Dr. Fauci?s prediction of 100,000 new cases a day nationally will come to fruition sooner rather than later. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

There are some positives out there, Michigan had only 250 or so.

[Dawg2003]

It's all how you view the data. Hospitalization is up fact. But that includes all those admitted not just covid.

Yes, but we don't need to get to a point of having to shut down elective procedures again. It's financially devastating to do so.

[confucius say]

Yes, but we don't need to get to a point of having to shut down elective procedures again. It's financially devastating to do so.

Dobbs is floating that to hospital ceos in Jackson today. Says a decision could come soon

[confucius say]

Florida had 10,000 new COVID-19 cases today. I fear Dr. Fauci?s prediction of 100,000 new cases a day nationally will come to fruition sooner rather than later. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

Should get to herd immunity quicker then. 1 million new cases a day (I'm using the CDC estimated x 10 factor) would speed things along.

[confucius say]

Hospitals are allowing more patients now.

Are hospitals close to capacity or no? That's the one thing Dobbs hasn't spoke on

[msstate7]

https://i.postimg.cc/J4StFRxz/55-B178-B2-AEF9-40-B2-A006-EC1167-D31894.jpg (https://postimg.cc/6yL92JFk)

https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status/1278743576114089984?s=21
...

Same thing is happening in Mississippi. Not sure what to make of it, but interesting.

[confucius say]

Yea it's strange. I wish there was a way to know the age of new hospital cases. If they were mostly young, that would help explain it.

But as a whole since March, We've had 3208 hospital cases per MSDH website. 77% of those are over 50. I am curious whether that is trending more towards younger people being hospitalized or are is the rise in hospitalizations still mostly older people.

[msstate7]

There are some positives out there, Michigan had only 250 or so.

Yesterday was the lowest US death total for a Wednesday since March 25th. Deaths continue to fall.

[confucius say]

Yesterday was the lowest US death total for a Wednesday since March 25th. Deaths continue to fall.

Tuesday was the same way.

As unhealthy as MS is, we will probably deal with deaths longer than most. But nationally, yea deaths are way down.

[Dawg2003]

https://i.postimg.cc/J4StFRxz/55-B178-B2-AEF9-40-B2-A006-EC1167-D31894.jpg (https://postimg.cc/6yL92JFk)

https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status/1278743576114089984?s=21
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Same thing is happening in Mississippi. Not sure what to make of it, but interesting.

I've noticed that too. It's interesting. Possibly we are better at treating it and keeping people out of the ICU.

[Irondawg]

I'm tending to fall more in line with the group of people who say it's mostly younger folks getting it who are more likely to be asymptomatic and have a mild case plus the summer heat weakens the virus a touch so it's milder.

So if that holds up the more people that get it now the better but I'd like to see overall numbers dropping soon because it's freaking people out which means they'll start locking stuff down very very soon.

[Homedawg]

I'm tending to fall more in line with the group of people who say it's mostly younger folks getting it who are more likely to be asymptomatic and have a mild case plus the summer heat weakens the virus a touch so it's milder.

So if that holds up the more people that get it now the better but I'd like to see overall numbers dropping soon because it's freaking people out which means they'll start locking stuff down very very soon.

Let's put it like this, 98.2 percent of Mississippi HASN't tested positive. Are there more sure! Probably a whole lot more. But the point is, we are never going to know the number that had it and won't ever have a posit test. But the freak out is what is carrying this thing....

[Commercecomet24]

Let's put it like this, 98.2 percent of Mississippi HASN't tested positive. Are there more sure! Probably a whole lot more. But the point is, we are never going to know the number that had it and won't ever have a posit test. But the freak out is what is carrying this thing....

Yep if you step back and take overview it's not hard to see.

[Turfdawg67]

I guess the Texas Governor is freaking out because today he's mandated that masks be worn in counties with 20 or more Covid cases. Texas!!

I suppose he's listening to medical experts (within Texas of course) but not that well educated libtard Fauci and not the "in-the-know" ED posters like homedawg. I can't believe he's not elated at the numbers and know in his heart that herd immunity is right around the corner.

[Gutter Cobreh]

I guess the Texas Governor is freaking out because today he's mandated that masks be worn in counties with 20 or more Covid cases. Texas!!

I suppose he's listening to medical experts (within Texas of course) but not that well educated libtard Fauci and not the "in-the-know" ED posters like homedawg. I can't believe he's not elated at the numbers and know in his heart that herd immunity is right around the corner.

If they would stop testing, their ICUs wouldn't be at capacity. Everyone also knows the heat kills this thing, so if Texas would just wait a couple weeks - it'll probably be gone forever. If everyone would just follow Homedawg and quit freaking out, it will run its course, skip over the elderly since no masks are needed, and we can get back to chucking the pigskin this fall.

[Homedawg]

I guess the Texas Governor is freaking out because today he's mandated that masks be worn in counties with 20 or more Covid cases. Texas!!

I suppose he's listening to medical experts (within Texas of course) but not that well educated libtard Fauci and not the "in-the-know" ED posters like homedawg. I can't believe he's not elated at the numbers and know in his heart that herd immunity is right around the corner.
Again another one of you dipshits that cant read. Where did I say anything about not wearing masks?? Please find it for me. So full of it. You can interpret my post ever how you like. And you don't see there is freak out then I can't help you. More to the point, we are going to have to live through it. Or you can crawl in a damn hole. I don't care.

[KOdawg1]

I guess the Texas Governor is freaking out because today he's mandated that masks be worn in counties with 20 or more Covid cases. Texas!!

I suppose he's listening to medical experts (within Texas of course) but not that well educated libtard Fauci and not the "in-the-know" ED posters like homedawg. I can't believe he's not elated at the numbers and know in his heart that herd immunity is right around the corner.

Speaking from experience, Homedawg is about the most "in-the-know" poster there is. Sorry he shit in your Cheerios or something

[confucius say]

Again another one of you dipshits that cant read. Where did I say anything about not wearing masks?? Please find it for me. So full of it. You can interpret my post ever how you like. And you don't see there is freak out then I can't help you. More to the point, we are going to have to live through it. Or you can crawl in a damn hole. I don't care.

I know you wear masks. So do I. Wore it in Kroger today. Honestly almost everyone I know says just wear a mask. The one person I've seen say don't wear a mask the most is fauci. He said it for like 2 months straight I'm pretty sure

[Joebob]

I haven't checked the numbers, but hospital capacity is starting to get tight in the big cities in Texas. It's not dire yet, but it's certainly got the governor's attention.

[Todd4State]

I've noticed that too. It's interesting. Possibly we are better at treating it and keeping people out of the ICU.

This is something "behind the scenes" from someone that works at a hospital in a former hot spot.

What we did where I work- and this a nationally known hospital- whenever we could with COVID patients instead of using a vent we treated them with really high flow oxygen. Basically we cranked the oxygen up as high as it could go. And it worked most of the time. If that failed then we went to a vent. The benefits to doing it this way are you obviously don't use a vent. The second is whereas the vent depending on what it's set on breaths or assists breathing for you versus oxygen where you are still breathing on your own.

And yes, we use the Trump drug and have had a lot of success with it.

I think my hospital and others who my guess is are doing the same thing aren't publicizing it because every time we do something the media criticizes and questions it. Fortunately, where I work we only care number one about people getting better and not who the President is. Everyone has lost complete sight of that. If something works and people get better because of it we should do it no matter who has a hand in it because I guarantee you someone somewhere is getting paid for it.

[Commercecomet24]

This is something "behind the scenes" from someone that works at a hospital in a former hot spot.

What we did where I work- and this a nationally known hospital- whenever we could with COVID patients instead of using a vent we treated them with really high flow oxygen. Basically we cranked the oxygen up as high as it could go. And it worked most of the time. If that failed then we went to a vent. The benefits to doing it this way are you obviously don't use a vent. The second is whereas the vent depending on what it's set on breaths or assists breathing for you versus oxygen where you are still breathing on your own.

And yes, we use the Trump drug and have had a lot of success with it.

I think my hospital and others who my guess is are doing the same thing aren't publicizing it because every time we do something the media criticizes and questions it. Fortunately, where I work we only care number one about people getting better and not who the President is. Everyone has lost complete sight of that. If something works and people get better because of it we should do it no matter who has a hand in it because I guarantee you someone somewhere is getting paid for it.

Todd I can assure y'all aren't the only ones treating using these methods. I spent the last 2 weeks traveling all over Arkansas and Oklahoma seeing my accounts and the hospitals I see are using similar treatments but as you said they aren't publicizing it. By the way Oklahoma didn't shutdown like most states hardly any one is wearing a mask they only have a little over 14000 cases and 400 deaths. Go and figure.

[msstate7]

This is something "behind the scenes" from someone that works at a hospital in a former hot spot.

What we did where I work- and this a nationally known hospital- whenever we could with COVID patients instead of using a vent we treated them with really high flow oxygen. Basically we cranked the oxygen up as high as it could go. And it worked most of the time. If that failed then we went to a vent. The benefits to doing it this way are you obviously don't use a vent. The second is whereas the vent depending on what it's set on breaths or assists breathing for you versus oxygen where you are still breathing on your own.

And yes, we use the Trump drug and have had a lot of success with it.

I think my hospital and others who my guess is are doing the same thing aren't publicizing it because every time we do something the media criticizes and questions it. Fortunately, where I work we only care number one about people getting better and not who the President is. Everyone has lost complete sight of that. If something works and people get better because of it we should do it no matter who has a hand in it because I guarantee you someone somewhere is getting paid for it.

Speaking of...

A Henry Ford Health System study shows the controversial anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine helps lower the death rate of COVID-19 patients, the Detroit-based health system said Thursday.

https://thenationalpulse.com/coronavirus/hydroxychloroquine-works-says-study/

[hacker]

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iTtFLOhQXbAs/v0/740x-1.png

This is someone's estimate of actual daily cases, adjusted with test positivity. I believe the last few days would be around the 400K mark.

[msstate7]

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iTtFLOhQXbAs/v0/740x-1.png

This is someone's estimate of actual daily cases, adjusted with test positivity. I believe the last few days would be around the 400K mark.

Let's assume this is correct... how many total cases so far?

[hacker]

Let's assume this is correct... how many total cases so far?

30 million

[msstate7]

30 million

Thanks.

That's in line with the CDC estimate.

[SheltonChoked]

I haven't checked the numbers, but hospital capacity is starting to get tight in the big cities in Texas. It's not dire yet, but it's certainly got the governor's attention.

Houston Metro area is out of normal ICU Beds and is into the surge supply. They have been transferring adults to the Children's hospital ICU for a week, and are sending patients to out of area Hospitals.

300+ new hospitalizations a day and growing at 4% a day.

The valley, Metroplex, and Austin are in a similar situation.

[msstate7]

Houston Metro area is out of normal ICU Beds and is into the surge supply. They have been transferring adults to the Children's hospital ICU for a week, and are sending patients to out of area Hospitals.

300+ new hospitalizations a day and growing at 4% a day.

The valley, Metroplex, and Austin are in a similar situation.

Any info about how long ICU visits last? (I know this sounds terrible) Texas has a low death rate, so this probably really compounds the ICU problem.

[hacker]

Thanks.

That's in line with the CDC estimate.

Using the same metric, it estimates the daily new infections for Mississippi:

July 1: 7,990
June 1: 2,000
May 1: 3,330

[Gutter Cobreh]

Any info about how long ICU visits last? (I know this sounds terrible) Texas has a low death rate, so this probably really compounds the ICU problem.

Please don't also forget when COVID spikes, elective surgeries are cancelled. When elective surgeries are cancelled, health systems begin hemorrhaging money. The TX hospitals are flush w/ reserves, but if this trend picks up in MS - I don't know a lot of systems that will be able to manage financially.

The mortality rate going down is huge, but if the feds don't step in and backstop the financial losses - the landscape of healthcare will be forever changed moving forward.

[Todd4State]

Any info about how long ICU visits last? (I know this sounds terrible) Texas has a low death rate, so this probably really compounds the ICU problem.

Are you asking how long they are in the hospital or how long they are on the vent? Based on what I have seen and I have not collected any data this is just a pure educated guess here- I would say that the worst cases are 3-4 weeks. Most are shorter and I would guess the average would be somewhere between a week or a week and a half. Which may be way off but it's probably going to give you a decent idea of what to expect.

The average LOS (length of stay) is probably going to be 3 weeks for all COVID patients.

[Liverpooldawg]

Houston Metro area is out of normal ICU Beds and is into the surge supply. They have been transferring adults to the Children's hospital ICU for a week, and are sending patients to out of area Hospitals.

300+ new hospitalizations a day and growing at 4% a day.

The valley, Metroplex, and Austin are in a similar situation.

15% of the COVID ICU cases in Houston are in their 20s & 30s

[SheltonChoked]

Any info about how long ICU visits last? (I know this sounds terrible) Texas has a low death rate, so this probably really compounds the ICU problem.

Average hospital stays are 10 days to 2 weeks. But 25% need more than 3 weeks.

Projections are Houston Metro will be out of the "Sustainable surge ICU beds" in about 12 days. Then they will begin converting Medical/Surgical units into ICU beds, or sending patients to Louisiana.

Keep in mind, in Houston Metro on a normal 4th of July weekend, there are 2,300 car crashes, with 1,300 injuries. 200 of the injuries are severe enough to need ICU. And the ICU's are full. And the ER's are full of Covid positive people...

Wear a mask.

[SheltonChoked]

15% of the COVID ICU cases in Houston are in their 20s & 30s

But that cannot be right, that would be the age of football players, and people on here say they don't die, so they should be ok to entertain me this fall.

[WinningIsRelentless]

Average hospital stays are 10 days to 2 weeks. But 25% need more than 3 weeks.

Projections are Houston Metro will be out of the "Sustainable surge ICU beds" in about 12 days. Then they will begin converting Medical/Surgical units into ICU beds, or sending patients to Louisiana.

Keep in mind, in Houston Metro on a normal 4th of July weekend, there are 2,300 car crashes, with 1,300 injuries. 200 of the injuries are severe enough to need ICU. And the ICU's are full. And the ER's are full of Covid positive people...

Wear a mask.

Houston is beyond screwed. I?ve got a close friend who is a flight nurse out there and he told me a week ago any trauma that was a bravo they were flying to Austin or San Antonio.

[Homedawg]

But that cannot be right, that would be the age of football players, and people on here say they don't die, so they should be ok to entertain me this fall.

First of all i don't know anyone who is a 30 year old college football player. That's taking a stat and making it to however you want to sound. Second, they previously mentioned somehow managed to get it not playing football. Lastly, it's more about moving on with life. If someone chooses not to play, so be it. Certainly there choice. People are going to get sick, some will die. I get it. But, if the virus causes the stop of an event, then when is it ever going to be ok to play??? good chance never.

[msstate7]

NY and NJ may be about to crank up again...

https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavirus/researches-say-nj-ny-no-longer-on-track-to-contain-virus

[Todd4State]

15% of the COVID ICU cases in Houston are in their 20s & 30s

I'd like to see a source on that.

[Commercecomet24]

First of all i don't know anyone who is a 30 year old college football player. That's taking a stat and making it to however you want to sound. Second, they previously mentioned somehow managed to get it not playing football. Lastly, it's more about moving on with life. If someone chooses not to play, so be it. Certainly there choice. People are going to get sick, some will die. I get it. But, if the virus causes the stop of an event, then when is it ever going to be ok to play??? good chance never.

Here's another thing, 60k plus showed up for protests in Houston and now folks that protested are coming down with covid. Who would've ever guessed that would happen.

[Todd4State]

Here's another thing, 60k plus showed up for protests in Houston and now folks that protested are coming down with covid. Who would've ever guessed that would happen.

No one at CNN.

[Commercecomet24]

Here's the results of the wake forest baptist study I told y'all about back in April. Interesting facts here:

https://www.wfae.org/post/wake-forest-covid-study-death-rate-severity-symptoms-lower-first-thought#stream/0

[starkvegasdawg]

No one at CNN.

Have some rep.

[dawgday166]

No one at CNN.

Have some more rep.

[Commercecomet24]

No one at CNN.

More rep my friend!

[Gutter Cobreh]

Can anyone provide me a state that followed the reopening plan, or did they all throw that out the window when the protests started?

Also, when did the narrative turn from not overrunning hospitals to mortality rate?

[dawgday166]

nm

[Irondawg]

I saw a quote in a WP article today stating that "we're clearly not flattening the curve". So I do want to know how long as we supposed to be the curve flattening stage? Originally it was 2-4 weeks and we're not 3.5 months into that period.

No doubt lots of people aren't wearing mask and going to gatherings larger than they probably should, but lots of people ARE wearing mask and/or doing pretty extreme social distancing. This thing doesn't seem like it's going to go away anytime soon so the question remains do you lock down everything for 6-12 month and maybe be slightly ahead of where you are now (if no vaccine) or do you just plow ahead somewhat with some reasonable restrictions and deal with the known side effects?

[Homedawg]

Here's another thing, 60k plus showed up for protests in Houston and now folks that protested are coming down with covid. Who would've ever guessed that would happen.

But they all had masks **

[Commercecomet24]

But they all had masks **

I forgot masks fix everything lol

[Dawgfan77]

I'd like to see a source on that.

You won't find one from him. Here is why. Reports are hospitalization is up 60% for those under 50 not ICU but hospitalizations in TX. That my friends is called manipulating the truth to fit a narrative. He took a stat and turned into something that wasn't true and became Liberalpooldawg the negative spinner.

[starkvegasdawg]

990 new cases and 4 new deaths today. That now puts us at just over 30,000 cases in the state which means 1% of the state population is now confirmed to have or had it.

[Gutter Cobreh]

You won't find one from him. Here is why. Reports are hospitalization is up 60% for those under 50 not ICU but hospitalizations in TX. That my friends is called manipulating the truth to fit a narrative. He took a stat and turned into something that wasn't true and became Liberalpooldawg the negative spinner.

Nothing to see here, just a 60% increase in hospitalizations for those under 50 based on data supplied by Dawgfan77 to illustrate that ICU hospitalizations are down. I'm sure all those rural hospitals scattered throughout the great state of MS will be able to handle volumes like that. What's the big deal right???

[msstate7]

Nothing to see here, just a 60% increase in hospitalizations for those under 50 based on data supplied by Dawgfan77 to illustrate that ICU hospitalizations are down. I'm sure all those rural hospitals scattered throughout the great state of MS will be able to handle volumes like that. What's the big deal right???

This means nothing without context. You'd need the raw number of hospitalizations for under 50 before and after. You'd also need to know the % of cases that under 50 accounted for before and after. For all we know the number of hospitalizations for under 50 went from 10 pre-June to 16 during June while the % of under 50 cases went from 10% of the total pre-June to 50% of the total during June. I sorta doubt it's that extreme, but you get the point.

[Dolphus Raymond]

Why some continue to minimize this is dumbfounding. Our management of this pandemic has been a cluster-**** from day 1.

[Gutter Cobreh]

This means nothing without context. You'd need the raw number of hospitalizations for under 50 before and after. You'd also need to know the % of cases that under 50 accounted for before and after. For all we know the number of hospitalizations for under 50 went from 10 pre-June to 16 during June while the % of under 50 cases went from 10% of the total pre-June to 50% of the total during June. I sorta doubt it's that extreme, but you get the point.

When elective surgeries have been cancelled, the 60% increase is alarming. You need no more context than that.

Had electives not been cancelled, I'd agree with you. Folks that age aren't admitted to hospitals at that rate on a regular basis, under normal conditions.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2020/06/30/texas-coronavirus-elective-surgeries-cameron-hidalgo-nueces-webb/amp/

[hacker]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcGNX_cUwAIjJ6d?format=jpg&name=large

There's some context for hospitalizations

[hacker]

Also, that is a few days outdated. Texas reported 7890 hospitalizations today.

[msstate7]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcGNX_cUwAIjJ6d?format=jpg&name=large

There's some context for hospitalizations

Not really... I just went back and looked at what started this argument. Here's Liverpool's claim...

"15% of the COVID ICU cases in Houston are in their 20s & 30s"

Total hospitalizations doesn't give context for that. Hell, I thought this was about under 50. I have a very hard time believing Liverpool's statement myself.

[Homedawg]

990 new cases and 4 new deaths today. That now puts us at just over 30,000 cases in the state which means 1% of the state population is now confirmed to have or had it.

Just 99% more to go and we can stop the freak../ right up until the figure out you can get it again.... rinse repeat.... or just learn to live with it.

[Homedawg]

Not really... I just went back and looked at what started this argument. Here's Liverpool's claim...

"15% of the COVID ICU cases in Houston are in their 20s & 30s"

Total hospitalizations doesn't give context for that. Hell, I thought this was about under 50. I have a very hard time believing Liverpool's statement myself.

Be careful he will call you a jerk!! Hahaha.

[Commercecomet24]

Just 99% more to go and we can stop the freak../ right up until the figure out you can get it again.... rinse repeat.... or just learn to live with it.

Yeah rough figures at this rate we should all have had it in about 33 years give or take. Let's just hunker down for 3 decades or so and we'll all be fine or dead. Might be better as you said to just learn to live with it cause I don't believe I've got 30 years left lol

[Dawgfan77]

Not really... I just went back and looked at what started this argument. Here's Liverpool's claim...

"15% of the COVID ICU cases in Houston are in their 20s & 30s"

Total hospitalizations doesn't give context for that. Hell, I thought this was about under 50. I have a very hard time believing Liverpool's statement myself.

This was what was saying his claim was BS. Here me out on this. So 30K have had or had Rona in MS Since March so basically 1% Of the population. Now roughly 19K have now recovered so net says there are around 11k now infected. To me this is positive yet all we look at is number of cases and the increase. No one reports number of cases that are recovered not one MSM reports this. It's all doom and gloom. If you knew only 11k were infected what would your outlook be. I'm sure y'all are going frown on this or link some liberal source that says different. Anyway.

[Turfdawg67]

Just 99% more to go and we can stop the freak../ right up until the figure out you can get it again.... rinse repeat.... or just learn to live with it.

Could you tell people on this page to learn to live with it one more time, please. Haven't seen that comment be 25 ****in times. Or CC 24 saying "lol yep" to every one of them. Take your mask off tough guy, nothing to worry about, learn to live with it.

[hacker]

Could you tell people on this page to learn to live with it one more time, please. Haven't seen that comment be 25 ****in times. Or CC 24 saying "lol yep" to every one of them. Take off your mask off tough guy, nothing to worry about, learn to live with it.

It's been pretty astounding to watch almost everyone in this thread parrot the White House this entire pandemic.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/we-need-live-it-white-house-readies-new-message-nation-n1232884

[Turfdawg67]

It's been pretty astounding to watch almost everyone in this thread parrot the White House this entire pandemic.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/we-need-live-it-white-house-readies-new-message-nation-n1232884

If you grew up in Mississippi and have lived in AL, GA and AR, it isn't shocking at all.

[Homedawg]

This was what was saying his claim was BS. Here me out on this. So 30K have had or had Rona in MS Since March so basically 1% Of the population. Now roughly 19K have now recovered so net says there are around 11k now infected. To me this is positive yet all we look at is number of cases and the increase. No one reports number of cases that are recovered not one MSM reports this. It's all doom and gloom. If you knew only 11k were infected what would your outlook be. I'm sure y'all are going frown on this or link some liberal source that says different. Anyway.

Actually the recovered are only updated once a week. So that number is low.

[Homedawg]

Could you tell people on this page to learn to live with it one more time, please. Haven't seen that comment be 25 ****in times. Or CC 24 saying "lol yep" to every one of them. Take your mask off tough guy, nothing to worry about, learn to live with it.
I will. And can you tell us how bad it is and how stupid we are?? While I wear my mask. You do your deal and I'll do mine. You don't scare me super hero.
What I'd like to hear from you is the solution. Other than some great propaganda of fear.

[Commercecomet24]

Could you tell people on this page to learn to live with it one more time, please. Haven't seen that comment be 25 ****in times. Or CC 24 saying "lol yep" to every one of them. Take your mask off tough guy, nothing to worry about, learn to live with it.

Lol I learned to live with it a long time ago. I'm seeing my hospital and home health accounts all over the Southeast and I've yet to run into an administrator, doctor, or nurse freaking out like some of y'all on here. I'll keep doing my thing and living my life and you do you. Have fun, I am!

[Dawgfan77]

I will. And can you tell us how bad it is and how stupid we are?? While I wear my mask. You do your deal and I'll do mine. You don't scare me super hero.
What I'd like to hear from you is the solution. Other than some great propaganda of fear.

Their are a few here that would rather spew the negative and fear porn than admit they were wrong. Those are probably people who thrive on the negative. We also have people on here who will just make stuff up to look smart or take comments from others and think they are so smart and lose credibility because they had no idea what the response was.

Y'all keep living in fear

[Homedawg]

If masks were the answer only the "assholes" who didn't wear them would get it. And if that's the case who cares??? The assholes who don't wear them get it and the ones who do don't....

[Homedawg]

Lol I learned to live with it a long time ago. I'm seeing my hospital and home health accounts all over the Southeast and I've yet to run into an administrator, doctor, or nurse freaking out like some of y'all on here. I'll keep doing my thing and living my life and you do you. Have fun, I am!

You can't say LOl on here. Tuff dawg said so!! And yes I speeled it correctly***

[dawgday166]

Could you tell people on this page to learn to live with it one more time, please.

One more time ... learn to live with it *

[Commercecomet24]

You can't say LOl on here. Tuff dawg said so!! And yes I speeled it correctly

My bad guess I just plum forgot.

[msstate7]

It's been pretty astounding to watch almost everyone in this thread parrot the White House this entire pandemic.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/we-need-live-it-white-house-readies-new-message-nation-n1232884

What's your solution to magically eliminate it?

[Homedawg]

What's your solution to magically eliminate it?

I asked the same thing to tuff guy. Don't wait for a response though. They are here tO bring true negative and bitch.

[hacker]

What's your solution to magically eliminate it?

Magically? Go back in time and take it seriously from the beginning. Do what the other first world countries did. Don't have the leader of the country telling people it's a hoax.

Realistically? I mean, I'm pretty sure we're ****ed at this point. There's a huge portion of the population that isn't going to take it seriously until it affects them personally because of all the mixed messages and misinformation coming from leadership.

[msstate7]

Magically? Go back in time and take it seriously from the beginning. Do what the other first world countries did. Don't have the leader of the country telling people it's a hoax.

Realistically? I mean, I'm pretty sure we're ****ed at this point. There's a huge portion of the population that isn't going to take it seriously until it affects them personally because of all the mixed messages and misinformation coming from leadership.

So "realistically", we just have to learn to live it, eh?

[hacker]

So "realistically", we just have to learn to live it, eh?

Unfortunately, yeah, seems as if the government has given up. This is an admission of defeat.

[Gutter Cobreh]

So "realistically", we just have to learn to live it, eh?

We just stop testing. If you slow the testing down, it just magically goes away....

That's the position of our leader and I believe him. Screw masks; he doesn't wear one so neither will I.

Commerce - will you please provide a few names of these health organizations that you deal with who are not concerned? In all honesty, I'd like to know.

[msstate7]

I'm certainly not gonna say trump has done a good job with this. I'm not sure why you guys seem to think it's all him though... check out the top 10 states in deaths per million. All but 1 is under democratic control. Many of those top 10 states had idiotic policies of forcing TLC facilities to take covid patients.

[Dawgfan77]

So using the MS math here.... 2MM have had it and I'd say 1MM or more have recovered.... we are learning to live with it. More test more positive. More people have had this than anyone on here realize. Therefore the infection rate is probably higher and the recovery rate is higher. But by all means live In fear

[Dawgfan77]

I'm certainly not gonna say trump has done a good job with this. I'm not sure why you guys seem to think it's all him though... check out the top 10 states in deaths per million. All but 9 are under democratic control. Many of those top 10 states had idiotic policies of forcing TLC facilities to take covid patients.
Because he is an easier target and they refuse to see how the worst states were and are democratic lead. Again let's blame trump for everything. Funny no body wants to have a solution just blame orange man. He bad.

[hacker]

I'm certainly not gonna say trump has done a good job with this. I'm not sure why you guys seem to think it's all him though... check out the top 10 states in deaths per million. All but 1 is under democratic control. Many of those top 10 states had idiotic policies of forcing TLC facilities to take covid patients.

I said "leadership" which is all-inclusive, but it starts at the top. Blue governors seem to be taking it more seriously across the board, but there are some Republican governors who are.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb2sebmX0AQ9V2b.jpg

[hacker]

Because he is an easier target and they refuse to see how the worst states were and are democratic lead. Again let's blame trump for everything. Funny no body wants to have a solution just blame orange man. He bad.

hmm

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/07/01/PDTN/4093d3d2-a69a-4bfc-8ac3-4432f28e5f5f-NewCasesGOPStates.jpg

[Dawgfan77]

hmm

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/07/01/PDTN/4093d3d2-a69a-4bfc-8ac3-4432f28e5f5f-NewCasesGOPStates.jpg
Have you always been negative or just choose to. How insane does one have to be to troll a tweet from 2013..... how insecure does one have to be to blame everything on a person that didn't invent the virus nor did they spread it among the citizens. But by all means blame him.

Also redo your data to deaths and not cases. You spread so much fear on this board

[msstate7]

hmm

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/07/01/PDTN/4093d3d2-a69a-4bfc-8ac3-4432f28e5f5f-NewCasesGOPStates.jpg

Well the blue states are just starting to open back up. Red states have been open for a couple months. I posted yesterday a PIX article that says NY and NJ are no longer on the path of containment. Until we get a vaccine or herd immunity, sack up.

[Homedawg]

Unfortunately, yeah, seems as if the government has given up. This is an admission of defeat.

You act like had we done it "right" it would be gone. Ha.

[Homedawg]

I said "leadership" which is all-inclusive, but it starts at the top. Blue governors seem to be taking it more seriously across the board, but there are some Republican governors who are.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb2sebmX0AQ9V2b.jpg
Yeah California and New York are just swell.

[hacker]

You act like had we done it "right" it would be gone. Ha.

Sure seems like the rest of the civilized world has it under control. Remember when it hit Italy and Spain and the rest of the EU hard, and y'all were like, "oh, it won't be like that here. <insert excuses why we're different and it won't happen to us>"

Now they've got it under control, have lifted their lockdowns, are getting back to normal. "Oh, well there's nothing we could have done! Couldn't have seen it coming! <insert more excuses why we're different and we couldn't have ever gotten it under control>"

[Homedawg]

Sure seems like the rest of the civilized world has it under control. Remember when it hit Italy and Spain and the rest of the EU hard, and y'all were like, "oh, it won't be like that here. <insert excuses why we're different and it won't happen to us>"

Now they've got it under control, have lifted their lockdowns, are getting back to normal. "Oh, well there's nothing we could have done! Couldn't have seen it coming! <insert more excuses why we're different and we couldn't have ever gotten it under control>"

Yeah. Under control. They got it. And will wait for us to bail there ass out of the financial crisis they have. So you think they won't have any problems coming out of lockdown?? Sure. Neither did China. Sarcasm intended. China is full of lies. But whatever. Just waiting on you and the other scholars to tells us how to fix it. I'll hang up and listen. And I'm sure it will be the same as your last awful response, well nothin now Bc our president sucks. Ok great.

[hacker]

https://i.imgur.com/9RMYFhx.png

"There's absolutely nothing we could have done!"

[Homedawg]

Can't wait til Biden saves us from it all.....

[Dawgfan77]

No message.

[Gutter Cobreh]

https://i.imgur.com/9RMYFhx.png

"There's absolutely nothing we could have done!"

Nope - just need herd immunity so we can get those college kids out there in the fall because I need to be entertained!!!!