Only way to tourney now is obviously longshot

[msstate7]

If we beat OM and Kentucky or Georgia beats Florida, we're the 4-seed, correct? If so, we'd have to win the sec tourney by winning 3 games. I'm certainly not calling it, but maybe we get lucky with someone knocking Kentucky and auburn out.

[dantheman4248]

We play 7 players. It's highly doubtful we win 3 or 4 days in a row on that alone regardless of opponent.

[confucius say]

If we beat OM and Kentucky or Georgia beats Florida, we're the 4-seed, correct? If so, we'd have to win the sec tourney by winning 3 games. I'm certainly not calling it, but maybe we get lucky with someone knocking Kentucky and auburn out.

Assuming usce beats vandy, we need to win sat and have fla lose exactly one game this week. Not both. We win a three way tie with us fla and usce, but lose a tiebreaker with usce.

[msstate7]

We play 7 players. It's highly doubtful we win 3 or 4 days in a row on that alone regardless of opponent.

It's like like than a 10% chance we win 3 in 3 days. It's zero chance we win 4 in 4 days. 4-seed is vital for this dream the size of One World Trade

[Lord McBuckethead]

Depending on who we play and possibly beat in the sec tourney could have some bearing.....who am i kidding. We 17ed ourselves in the LSU, New Mexico State, OK, UM, and most aTm games.

[Captain Falcon]

I just have a hard time getting my hopes up with this program. Literally every time people start to buy back in, we revert back to losing. It has been two steps forward, two steps backward ever since the night Howland lost to a SWAC team in Malik Newman’s debut.

[msudawg1200]

Yeah, we ain't making the tourney, nor do we deserve to.

[Liverpooldawg]

The only way we get in is to win the SEC Tourney. That ain't happening. We haven't been a NCAA tourney team at any point this year.

[Lord McBuckethead]

We have been a tourney team this year. Before we tipped off the first game. Since then, they just are not a great team. We didn't get over the hump.
Like in years past, we spent way too much time this year playing without urgency. From memory, we were playing from a significant points down in the first half of pretty much every game this season outside of our stretch where we played GA and MO early in the SEC schedule. Other than that, we just did not know where the gas pedal was. We let off of it too many times. Hence the 20pt hole we found ourselves in against at least half our SEC competition. Case in point, last night.

[Commercecomet24]

We have been a tourney team this year. Before we tipped off the first game. Since then, they just are not a great team. We didn't get over the hump.
Like in years past, we spent way too much time this year playing without urgency. From memory, we were playing from a significant points down in the first half of pretty much every game this season outside of our stretch where we played GA and MO early in the SEC schedule. Other than that, we just did not know where the gas pedal was. We let off of it too many times. Hence the 20pt hole we found ourselves in against at least half our SEC competition. Case in point, last night.

This is it in a nutshell. Those 5-7 minutes every game where we just lose focus and can't score and turn the ball over repeatedly kill us. Same script every game.

[confucius say]

Our net only dropped one spot.

Win the next 3 over OM, fla on fri, and ky on sat and were looking at a mid to upper 40s net. Prob be squarely on bubble again

[msstate7]

Our net only dropped one spot.

Win the next 3 over OM, fla on fri, and ky on sat and were looking at a mid to upper 40s net. Prob be squarely on bubble again

Really need that 4-seed to have a realistic shot

[R2Dawg]

Really need that 4-seed to have a realistic shot

Agree if winning the SECT is our only shot which it likely is. If right teams win or lose around the nation, maybe just making the finals could sneak us in? We can't win 4 in a row; 3 may be a stretch.

[basedog]

This is it in a nutshell. Those 5-7 minutes every game where we just lose focus and can't score and turn the ball over repeatedly kill us. Same script every game.

I understand your post, I also agree but I just think it's players who have to make plays. Our guys have talent but they as a whole aren't much on fundamentals, is it coaching or just players, it's a little of both. It's pretty obvious to me in sports today, fundamentals isn't being "practice" enough.

As far as us not making Ncaa tournament, doesn't surprise me, what surprise me is when we do make it! 11 times total, yes we could make it a little more but never consistent, it is what it is, it's just a fact. Can we or will we do better than Howland, maybe but probably not so much. Just my opinion so take it for what it worth.

[confucius say]

Really need that 4-seed to have a realistic shot

Odds are we get it if we beat OM. We hold tiebreaker over fla and win a three way tie between us, fla, and usce.

Would need a usce loss plus a fla loss OR usce wins and fla splits this week vs Georgia and ky.

Just avoid a situation where usce wins and Florida loses twice this week, bc that would put us in a tie only with usce and we lose that tiebreaker.

[Commercecomet24]

I understand your post, I also agree but I just think it's players who have to make plays. Our guys have talent but they as a whole aren't much on fundamentals, is it coaching or just players, it's a little of both. It's pretty obvious to me in sports today, fundamentals isn't being "practice" enough.

As far as us not making Ncaa tournament, doesn't surprise me, what surprise me is when we do make it! 11 times total, yes we could make it a little more but never consistent, it is what it is, it's just a fact. Can we or will we do better than Howland, maybe but probably not so much. Just my opinion so take it for what it worth.

I always like your take on things, Basedog and I agree to a certain point but in Howlands tenure here we've pretty much run the same script every game. Same coach different players but we play exactly the same every year. It has to come down to coaching. Howland has been a good coach here, not a great one. Could we do better than him? I don't know but at some point you have to try something different. And you're right about fundamentals not being taught and that's in every sport.

[StarkVegasSteve]

It's pretty simple for us, win it all or NIT.

[msstate7]

It's pretty simple for us, win it all or NIT.

I think if we're 4-seed, and beat both Florida and Kentucky, we'd have a realistic shot. Unfortunately, I don't see us beating both of them

[HoopsDawg]

I always like your take on things, Basedog and I agree to a certain point but in Howlands tenure here we've pretty much run the same script every game. Same coach different players but we play exactly the same every year. It has to come down to coaching. Howland has been a good coach here, not a great one. Could we do better than him? I don't know but at some point you have to try something different. And you're right about fundamentals not being taught and that's in every sport.

Howland doesn't really have a plan on offense. So he can't really enforce certain behaviors like taking a long 2 early in the shot clock, because there is no script.

What has been surprising to me is our defense, or lack thereof. That Texas A&M game, wow!! And we just couldn't get the stops last night when Carter got hot.

[Commercecomet24]

Howland doesn't really have a plan on offense. So he can't really enforce certain behaviors like taking a long 2 early in the shot clock, because there is no script.

What has been surprising to me is our defense, or lack thereof. That Texas A&M game, wow!! And we just couldn't get the stops last night when Carter got hot.

That's a pretty good assessment.

[confucius say]

I think if we're 4-seed, and beat both Florida and Kentucky, we'd have a realistic shot. Unfortunately, I don't see us beating both of them

Agree.

[basedog]

I always like your take on things, Basedog and I agree to a certain point but in Howlands tenure here we've pretty much run the same script every game. Same coach different players but we play exactly the same every year. It has to come down to coaching. Howland has been a good coach here, not a great one. Could we do better than him? I don't know but at some point you have to try something different. And you're right about fundamentals not being taught and that's in every sport.

I agree, Howland has helped our program, will he get us to the next level, probably not. Only Coach in our history who was great, Babe. No other has come close. Can we do better, iffy but it's possible, odds are against that happening.
Babe, then Joe Dan Gold, Kermit, Greene, Hatfield, Boyd, Williams, Stansbury, Ray, now Howland.

I do wish and hope we could find the "one".

[basedog]

Howland doesn't really have a plan on offense. So he can't really enforce certain behaviors like taking a long 2 early in the shot clock, because there is no script.

What has been surprising to me is our defense, or lack thereof. That Texas A&M game, wow!! And we just couldn't get the stops last night when Carter got hot.

Defense is surprising.

[tcdog70]

I agree, Howland has helped our program, will he get us to the next level, probably not. Only Coach in our history who was great, Babe. No other has come close. Can we do better, iffy but it's possible, odds are against that happening.
Babe, then Joe Dan Gold, Kermit, Greene, Hatfield, Boyd, Williams, Stansbury, Ray, now Howland.

I do wish and hope we could find the "one".

Ron Greene was the real deal. Had great assistants. Bob Tyler was the reason He left.

[Coach34]

We have had some good coaches. Bob Boyd and Richard Williams were damn good basketball coaches. But they werent recruiters. Stands was a recruiter- but there are Academy basketball coaches in Mississippi that are better than him in coaching actual basketball.

Howland recruits well- Howland doesnt demand excellence. Our constant moving screens calls is a perfect example. Good basketball coaches make sure we do a better job on those so we arent called for fouls time after time. We get popped on that 2-3 times every tip. Thats on the coaching. There are other examples- but that one is the most glaring of our lack of coaching

[basedog]

Ron Greene was the real deal. Had great assistants. Bob Tyler was the reason He left.

Yes to Ron Greene.

[klong-dog]

If we end up in a 3 way tie, we don't get 4th. I think the 1st tie breaker is head to head vs #1 seed. Which is obviously UK. South Carolina beat them.

[confucius say]

If we end up in a 3 way tie, we don't get 4th. I think the 1st tie breaker is head to head vs #1 seed. Which is obviously UK. South Carolina beat them.

No it's not. It's combined winning percentage against the other two teams. If still tied, it's then win percentage against number 1 seed.

We win three way tie breaker with us fla and usce.

If usce loses and fla loses, We win tiebreaker with just us and fla.

If LSU beats uga and auburn loses at ten, and fla loses to ky, we need usce to lose at vandy and is to beat OM to be in a three way tie for third with aub and fla. aub would be the three and us the four.

[klong-dog]

Well, I thought that as well knowing we were in good shape with the 3 way tie but then i heard Richard Williams and Neil Price say so before the game yesterday that it would go to South Carolina due to their win over UK. I believe ya tho.

[msstate7]

Sec basketball tourney tie breakers

https://www.secsports.com/article/11098238/tournament-tiebreakers

[Joebob]

I can?t believe anyone is still worrying about whether we will make the tournament or not. I sailed on that ship weeks ago.

[Dawgcap]

I?m still believing. Still have games to play. Ain?t no team we can?t beat in the SEC tournament. Backs against the wall, let?s go

[confucius say]

Well, I thought that as well knowing we were in good shape with the 3 way tie but then i heard Richard Williams and Neil Price say so before the game yesterday that it would go to South Carolina due to their win over UK. I believe ya tho.

Yea I heard that to. Neil must have been thinking only about a two way tie between us and usce. They would win that because of their win over KY

[msugolf]

Yea I heard that to. Neil must have been thinking only about a two way tie between us and usce. They would win that because of their win over KY

There's a good chance we end up as the 6 seed. If Fla knocks off Ky and USC wins then we'll be the 6 (if we win our game that is).

[confucius say]

There's a good chance we end up as the 6 seed. If Fla knocks off Ky and USC wins then we'll be the 6 (if we win our game that is).

I think there is a better chance that ky beats fla. if that happens and we win, we are the 4 even if usce wins as long as auburn wins.

Bottom line, we need to win, have fla lose to KY, and then either USCe lose OR auburn win.

[msstate7]

I think there is a better chance that ky beats fla. if that happens and we win, we are the 4 even if usce wins as long as auburn wins.

Bottom line, we need to win, have fla lose to KY, and then either USCe lose OR auburn win.

Auburn and Kentucky road games will be tough though

[confucius say]

Auburn and Kentucky road games will be tough though

For sure. So will usce road game

[tcdog70]

We have had some good coaches. Bob Boyd and Richard Williams were damn good basketball coaches. But they werent recruiters. Stands was a recruiter- but there are Academy basketball coaches in Mississippi that are better than him in coaching actual basketball.

Howland recruits well- Howland doesnt demand excellence. Our constant moving screens calls is a perfect example. Good basketball coaches make sure we do a better job on those so we arent called for fouls time after time. We get popped on that 2-3 times every tip. Thats on the coaching. There are other examples- but that one is the most glaring of our lack of coaching

Richard had some good ASST Coaches--Stans recruited and John Brady Coached. It seems we have gotten better on the illegal screens--I think our guards are waiting for the pick-whereas before they were going before it was set.