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RocketDawg
03-03-2020, 06:36 PM
Important game, just started tied 4-4.

Internet is really slow tonight in north Alabama, possibly because of the Tennessee tornadoes.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 06:40 PM
Well this is a good start

msstate7
03-03-2020, 06:45 PM
Woodard has to be the worst passer to the post

msstate7
03-03-2020, 06:46 PM
Woodard dunked and then he single handedly fueled the SC run

msstate7
03-03-2020, 06:47 PM
Call a damn TO. What the hell are we doing

msstate7
03-03-2020, 06:49 PM
This all started with a garbage ass pass from Woodard. Woodard has got to stop passing to the post. He completes less than fitz did 50 yards down field

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 06:50 PM
Still no timeout. They are on a 16-0 run I think.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 06:51 PM
We have turned it over or taken a forced shot for the last 12 possessions.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 06:51 PM
Doug Shows, TV Ted, oh my. They are calling everything.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 06:52 PM
This is a total whistle fest. They deeper... we in trouble

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 06:53 PM
13 possessions.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 06:54 PM
Glad to say this is the last time we play Kotsar. Dudes top 4 games in his career are the 4 times he played us.

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 06:55 PM
Glad the TV called a timeout cause Howland decided to say **** it and let them sink there. Woof.


This team gonna have to win 4 days in a row next week if they want to make the Tourney

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 06:55 PM
14 possessions and 18 pts.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 06:56 PM
15.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 06:56 PM
They are going to stop hitting everything here in a minute, right?

msstate7
03-03-2020, 06:57 PM
Season on line... we get a 20-0 run on us. Jeez

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 06:57 PM
They are on a 20-0 run. We may want to drive the ball to the basket after passing the ball around.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 06:58 PM
Holy shit, we scored. Now can we not give them an easy basket.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 06:58 PM
That wasn't a foul? Hope these refs get herpes

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:00 PM
Where was that foul? Kotsar was so open there is literally no way we could have fouled him.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:01 PM
Howland should be throwing a damn chair on the court. F these refs

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 07:01 PM
I'll at least give us this. South Carolina is one of the most annoying teams in our conference to play. Constant fouls and now the officials starting to swallow the whistles.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:02 PM
16 pts down. 17n turnover leads to an open dunk with three of our guys in the lane. . 18 pts 17n down now.

Offshore Dawg
03-03-2020, 07:02 PM
Could the team just leave at half time.

BeardoMSU
03-03-2020, 07:02 PM
These refs are an abomination.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:02 PM
And now that's a foul?! These refs suck ass

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:04 PM
Nick literally gets pile drived into the court on a good contested shot, no whistle. Kotsar doesn't have anyone withing 3 feet of him, whistle.

This has nothing to do with them 17n ass raping Howland's gameplan. Our team is getting bitch slapped and pussies grabbed on national TV. Ha. Can't make this shit up.

jacobyjones5
03-03-2020, 07:04 PM
we?ve been getting assaulted under the rim

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 07:06 PM
Need to somehow cut this to 7-8 at half. Confidence would be big coming out of the intermission

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 07:08 PM
I'll say this much. As shitty as we are to watch... I couldn't support SCAR's team. Fouling every drive is just cheap. Need officials to not be afraid to stay consistent instead of be afraid of the whistle fest.

Offshore Dawg
03-03-2020, 07:08 PM
Does State do IQ test before offering Basketball scholarships.

Turfdawg67
03-03-2020, 07:10 PM
LOL... y'all expecting more from this team.

Turfdawg67
03-03-2020, 07:11 PM
Does State do IQ test before offering Basketball scholarships.

And there it is... the basketball "IQ" post. Lolz

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 07:12 PM
Down to8

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:12 PM
Come on defense

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:13 PM
That was a tough break

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 07:13 PM
LOL... y'all expecting more from this team.

Nah. I expect better from the officials. This should be a tie game or our lead with a hell of a lot of players for SCAR in foul trouble. It's amazing to say that in a game that we've been in the double bonus since like 8 minutes left in the half, but it's true.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:13 PM
Stewart is gonna be a stud

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:14 PM
Well good. Howland told them to stop 17n around.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:16 PM
Close out the half strong, and we can certainly still win this

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 07:18 PM
Hell I was hoping to cut it to 7. Let?s be greedy and tie this up or take the lead!!

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:19 PM
Rebound guys

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:20 PM
SC fouls like every possession

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 07:21 PM
This game is going to hinge on the refs calling it fairly. Our run is because of that moreso than us changing anything up. They weren't taking bad shots when SCAR went on that run. SCAR just fouls everything. A mix of them being hot from behind the arc and the refs swallowing whistles was a bad combo.

Props to them for not folding. Their performance in Oxford made me wonder if we were about to fold the season in again.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:21 PM
Gotta hit those open 3s dawgs

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 07:22 PM
SC fouls every possession

Fixed that statement

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:23 PM
They weren't gonna call that

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:24 PM
They push on every rebound

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 07:24 PM
Jesus christ I think one official was shocked the other didn't call that foul there. It was so blatantly a foul he had to step in.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:25 PM
Outstanding Molinar and Woodard

RocketDawg
03-03-2020, 07:25 PM
Quite a comeback. Only down 2 at the half.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 07:25 PM
What a battle. This is grown man basketball. More Molinar please.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:26 PM
Dawgs, I'm very pissed you let them go on a 20-0 run, but hell of a finish to the half. Take care of business

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 07:27 PM
They showed heart after down 18. Very impressive effort when it would of been easy to quit with the calls

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 07:33 PM
SC fouls like every possession

2nd in the nation in fouls per game. Looks like they want to be number 1.

The officials have to call a fair game to give us a chance.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:39 PM
Quite a comeback. Only down 2 at the half.

Yep. Solid team work getting back to 2 there. Keep it up dawgs.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:40 PM
Dawgs, I'm very pissed you let them go on a 20-0 run, but hell of a finish to the half. Take care of business

I wish we would have used a timeout say anytime when they were on a 10-20 pt run. Hell should have called it at the 8 pt run.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:42 PM
Welp

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 07:42 PM
awful start.

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 07:43 PM
I love missing 10 seconds of the action to stare at someone regurgitate coachspeak....

Why is it so hard to just show the game?

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:43 PM
Our defense is pathetic

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:44 PM
Woodard is finishing tonight

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:45 PM
Woodard was fouled.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 07:45 PM
Perry, if you are SEC player of the year, now is the time to prove it.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:45 PM
Woodard is the worst passer in the history of basketball

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:45 PM
Perry is forcing literally everything.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 07:45 PM
That's not a charge.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:46 PM
He was set? Lol

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:46 PM
Ado was fouled in the face.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:46 PM
Molinar and carter fueled the comeback and now they sit

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 07:47 PM
Oh no. Get Feazell out ASAP

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:48 PM
Oh no. Get Feazell out ASAP

Why not just go small?

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 07:48 PM
Molinar and carter fueled the comeback and now they sit

How do you go with Feazel in that spot? Crazy. Put in Molinar and slide Woodard to the 4.

Reunion Dog
03-03-2020, 07:48 PM
.. to

bobtail bob
03-03-2020, 07:49 PM
SC has us right where they want us now with no penetrartor and not being able to guard mid range. The refs have called this game exactly like the SC coach told them too early

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:51 PM
Damn shame perry got called for #4 on a clown call

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:52 PM
Carter is our best pg

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:52 PM
Where was stewarts foul there?

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 07:53 PM
1 foul on SC this half. BS.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:53 PM
Where was stewarts foul there?

We're getting hosed. Just bite the towel

bobtail bob
03-03-2020, 07:54 PM
Fouls on one end are not fouls on the other end. It?s time for Howland to get tossed

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:54 PM
Molinar foul? 17 these refs.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:55 PM
Fouls on one end are not fouls on the other end. It?s time for Howland to get tossed

Exactly.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 07:55 PM
what was that Nick? 3 off the dribble? that's what they want.

thf24
03-03-2020, 07:56 PM
What dumbass fans, booing every call against them as if they aren't being allowed to mug us at will. OM level lack of awareness.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:56 PM
Putting Perry in right now is not the answer.

Quaoarsking
03-03-2020, 07:56 PM
Obviously the refs should just make the right calls and let the chips fall, but if there was ever a game this season the SEC would want to rig, it would be this one for us to get a 5th team in the NCAAT.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 07:57 PM
What dumbass fans, booing every call against them as if they aren't being allowed to mug us at will. OM level lack of awareness.

They are doing what they supposed to be doing. The hump used to actually show up and be like this. You may be a little to young to remember those times.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:57 PM
Obviously the refs should just make the right calls and let the chips fall, but if there was ever a game this season the SEC would want to rig, it would be this one for us to get a 5th team in the NCAAT.

Frank Martin just dog cussing these refs into his bitch

Acid mouth
03-03-2020, 07:57 PM
Damn shame perry got called for #4 on a clown call

Game changer of a call. It wasn't even close to a charge. This is when I wish Howland would come unglued and work the refs

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 07:58 PM
I think it is. Know they will attack him but we have to be able to get some boards. Risky. Sad to see them playing more aggressive and 5 less fouls from first half.

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 07:58 PM
Reunion dog with a top tier post again

That was a bad call. Not a charge. Feet weren't set.

But yes call out our players for getting dicked by refs tonight.

189 posts and all of them garbage.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 07:59 PM
This is where a zone would be nice

thf24
03-03-2020, 08:00 PM
They are doing what they supposed to be doing. The hump used to actually show up and be like this. You may be a little to young to remember those times.

I may be younger than most, but I was in the Hump for games like UK in '10 when we got absolutely hosed on our own floor and actually had a legitimate reason to boo the refs.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:01 PM
holy shit, what a tick tack foul call. are you kidding me?

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:01 PM
Catch the ball

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 08:03 PM
To have a shot, we need to keep going to the basket and force them to pick up fouls. If it is not there, back it out and try again.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:03 PM
If Woodard cleans up his game some, he'll be a beast.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:03 PM
Perry playing no defense now with 4 fouls. Get a STOP

Barkman Turner Overdrive
03-03-2020, 08:04 PM
.. to

Wait until next year when the only player on the court now will be Adon?t

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:04 PM
SC acts like they never foul

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 08:04 PM
That wasnt a reach in, but I will take that 1 versus their 15 they have gotten away with.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 08:05 PM
I hate terrible possessions.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:05 PM
Perry and Stewart have missed too many easy shots for us to win.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:06 PM
Why does perry lay up the ball? Slam it... go up strong

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 08:06 PM
Nice 17n timeout. Down 10.

Cloak
03-03-2020, 08:06 PM
.. to

Every time you post it seems like a troll job.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 08:07 PM
I am going to watch porn. If I am going to see someone get 17ed, I want to enjoy it.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:07 PM
Perry 3-11. Nick 3-10. Stewart 1-7. Not going to get it done.

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 08:07 PM
That wasnt a reach in, but I will take that 1 versus their 15 they have gotten away with.

He didn't call the reach. He called the hold. He held perry's arm first. It was a foul.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:08 PM
What a terrible follow by perry. Can't believe he laid that up

Cloak
03-03-2020, 08:08 PM
If we are going to win, it's going to come down to Carter. If he fouls out, it's over.

Reunion Dog
03-03-2020, 08:08 PM
Dunk the ball when u r at the damn goal... Put #5 in the game. Let's go small. Can't even make a layup now..

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 08:09 PM
That will be time for you to find another team.

MaroonFlounder
03-03-2020, 08:09 PM
.. to

Go have some pineapple and chill out

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:12 PM
Give em a finish, dawgs

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:12 PM
We've got 6 minutes to make the tournament.

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 08:13 PM
We are in this. Shots fixing to fall. Perry has like 7 rebounds in last 6

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:14 PM
are you kidding me with that foul call on Carter? What is going on here?

MaroonFlounder
03-03-2020, 08:14 PM
Dunk the ball when u r at the damn goal... Put #5 in the game. Let's go small. Can't even make a layup now..

In traffic and playing with 4 fouls.

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 08:14 PM
I?m calling a w. We get hot.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:15 PM
They tackle us at midcourt and no foul. Then they call that on carter

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:16 PM
Come on ado

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:18 PM
Damn they working us

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:19 PM
They aren't gonna let us win. Then shooting too well

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:20 PM
Ova.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:20 PM
NIT here we come. Why are we switching off of Kostar?? Why

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 08:20 PM
Ballgame. Terrible transition defense.

Quaoarsking
03-03-2020, 08:21 PM
I knew the LSU dagger would come back to haunt us. Without that we would probably be able to absorb this loss tonight and still make it in.

Now it's SECT or bust.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 08:21 PM
NIT here we come. Why are we switching off of Kostar?? Why

No idea why we don't switch to zone or full court press. Something.

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 08:21 PM
I may be a dumbass but I don?t believe it. Still believe we win

MaroonFlounder
03-03-2020, 08:21 PM
It would've been a one and done in the big tourney anyway.

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 08:21 PM
NIT here we come. Why are we switching off of Kostar?? Why

He's 8-21. Letting him take the midrange helped get us back in it.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:22 PM
Carter has brought us back twice now. Too bad howland forgot and left him on the bench out the half to let SC separate.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:22 PM
I may be a dumbass but I don?t believe it. Still believe we win

Believe it

Quaoarsking
03-03-2020, 08:23 PM
It would've been a one and done in the big tourney anyway.

Still better to make it than not make it. This is a crushing loss for the program.

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 08:23 PM
Carter has brought us back twice now. Too bad howland forgot and left him on the bench out the half to let SC separate.

He had 3 fouls no?

That tic tac on him early really cost us.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:23 PM
Nick is becoming my least favorite player

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:24 PM
He's 8-21. Letting him take the midrange helped get us back in it.

OMG dude, I'm talking about on that one possession. We gave him a FT jumper.

mparkerfd20
03-03-2020, 08:24 PM
Howland is a ****tard of a coach. Bottom line.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:24 PM
He had 3 fouls no?

That tic tac on him early really cost us.


We play perry with 3, but not carter? It was dumb

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:25 PM
Nick is becoming my least favorite player

Can't have a guard that shoots so bad from the outside in today's game. Especially with our post talent.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:26 PM
Nick...
3/11 shooting
0 assists
4 TO

He kills us

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 08:26 PM
We play perry with 3, but not carter? It was dumb

Perry had 2 and was already in. He got 3&4 b2b quick. Could only afford to sit one so he chose Perry. Both have played well tonight when they are in. If Perry wasn't screwed by that charge he'd have gone 20/20

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 08:27 PM
I was a dumbass

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:27 PM
Did Molinar hit on howland's wife at the half?

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:28 PM
Nick...
3/11 shooting
0 assists
4 TO

He kills us

Wow. What a stat line from our "point guard".

IngomarDawg
03-03-2020, 08:28 PM
Can't have a guard that shoots so bad from the outside in today's game. Especially with our post talent.


Nick...
3/11 shooting
0 assists
4 TO

He kills us

Correct me if I?m wrong he?s done this all year long right? I mean he cannot shoot at all.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:28 PM
Did Molinar hit on howland's wife at the half?

Howland did the same thing with Russell Westbrook as a freshman. Barely played him.

BayouDawg
03-03-2020, 08:28 PM
Buy or sell
We win more games if Nick doesnt come back to school this year

State82
03-03-2020, 08:28 PM
This is why the Hump is practically filled for the ladies and empty for this bunch.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:29 PM
Correct me if I?m wrong he?s done this all year long right? I mean he cannot shoot at all.

He's had a couple of excellent assist to turnover games. He played as bad tonight as he did against Ole Miss in Oxford.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:29 PM
Correct me if I?m wrong he?s done this all year long right? I mean he cannot shoot at all.

He has his moments. If basketball had a WAR stat though, not sure he's positive for the year

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:30 PM
This is why the Hump is practically filled for the ladies and empty for this bunch.

I'd watch this all day over a women's game. Glad we have fans that support them though.

Thick
03-03-2020, 08:33 PM
This team is just a bunch of underachievers that are led by a coach that?s just enjoying a check until he retires.

R2Dawg
03-03-2020, 08:33 PM
NIT here we come. Why are we switching off of Kostar?? Why

Agree, absent an SECT run and likely win we are NIT. It really sucks for this year. Way too talented. The NET is BS too evaluating us.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:33 PM
If Florida loses to Kentucky and we beat OM, we the 4-seed, right? Doesn't matter what SC does

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 08:33 PM
Hilarious foul call on our drive. Really. That?s a foul now

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:34 PM
Other than the win at UF, we have failed in every opportunity we've had to earn a bid.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 08:34 PM
Whats even worse, when Carter fouled the guy at the end, no call. 17 you SEC refs.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2020, 08:34 PM
Other than the win at UF, we have failed in every opportunity we've had to earn a bid.

Thats why we suck. No other way to slice it. We have earned the moniker that we suck.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:35 PM
Buy or sell
We win more games if Nick doesnt come back to school this year

Well, we looked better against Villanova w/o Nick than we have the rest of the year.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:37 PM
This team is just a bunch of underachievers that are led by a coach that?s just enjoying a check until he retires.

Howland's unwillingness to change defense is one of my biggest complaints about him.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:39 PM
Howland's unwillingness to change defense is one of my biggest complaints about him.

Agree. Hopefully he reevaluates this offseason

Saltydog
03-03-2020, 08:42 PM
You can't change a leopard's spots...?...Howland will be the same shitty coach next year that he is this year...?.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:49 PM
Would this team had been better if nick didn't come back and Molinar had played his mins

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 08:52 PM
I give USCE credit. They are physical. They endured the fouls first half and never changed aggressiveness. It?s almost like officials got tired of calling fouls on them.
They made shots but we couldn?t adjust to the way the game is called. May be wrong but I feel that they play a game of foul every possession and eventually the officiating will change so they don?t call too many fouls.
Might be a smart strategy against some teams

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:54 PM
I give USCE credit. They are physical. They endured the fouls first half and never changed aggressiveness. It?s almost like officials got tired of calling fouls on them.
They made shots but we couldn?t adjust to the way the game is called. May be wrong but I feel that they play a game of foul every possession and eventually the officiating will change so they don?t call too many fouls.
Might be a smart strategy against some teams

Same way Bama football used to play pass defense.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 08:54 PM
Would this team had been better if nick didn't come back and Molinar had played his mins

I don't want to blast Nick. But I will blast Howland for not benching him when he's not playing well. Molinar should have played more at Oxford and he should have played more tonight.

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 08:54 PM
I give USCE credit. They are physical. They endured the fouls first half and never changed aggressiveness. It?s almost like officials got tired of calling fouls on them.
They made shots but we couldn?t adjust to the way the game is called. May be wrong but I feel that they play a game of foul every possession and eventually the officiating will change so they don?t call too many fouls.
Might be a smart strategy against some teams

I wouldn't give someone credit for that lmao. That's just bullshit basketball. **** SCAR and I wish we didn't ever have to play them. Lamest team to play on our schedule.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 08:56 PM
I don't want to blast Nick. But I will blast Howland for not benching him when he's not playing well. Molinar should have played more at Oxford and he should have played more tonight.

I just don't think it's nick's fault. He's not a pg, and he's not a shooter. He's just sorta a tweener. I like him and I want him back next season, but I want no part of him logging the lion's share of mins at the 1.

Irondawg
03-03-2020, 08:58 PM
Honestly that’s on the officials. I know they get tired of calling fouls but the teams would stop when all their starters foul out in 20 minutes of play. It’s like anything else - they’ll keep doing it as long as they get away with it

Cooterpoot
03-03-2020, 09:00 PM
LOL at those that thought we were turning some corner. Howland coached teams never turn the corner. It's the same thing every year. This talent is better than the results. Oh well, same ole same ole.

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 09:15 PM
I wouldn't give someone credit for that lmao. That's just bullshit basketball. **** SCAR and I wish we didn't ever have to play them. Lamest team to play on our schedule.
I agree. But Martin coaches a foul coach to basketball. At some points officials stop calling because you can call something on most every possession. Eventually you start getting away with shit

Dawgcap
03-03-2020, 09:20 PM
Honestly that’s on the officials. I know they get tired of calling fouls but the teams would stop when all their starters foul out in 20 minutes of play. It’s like anything else - they’ll keep doing it as long as they get away with it
That?s my point. They don?t. Again other teams weather the aggressiveness but the officials do want to make their mark to control the game. I may be wrong but I think Martin coaches to keep playing the same way. They will eventually quit blowing the whistle.

Turfdawg67
03-03-2020, 09:22 PM
3.1 vs. 9 = MSU fans. SMH.

Thick
03-03-2020, 09:28 PM
If this team were coached by Richard Williams and/or Stans, we would be at 23-25 wins now. Two things would be a complete certainty.....we would be nasty on defense and we would own the boards! With Williams, we would run multiple offensive sets vs man and zone defenses.

Dawgology
03-03-2020, 09:29 PM
LOL at those that thought we were turning some corner. Howland coached teams never turn the corner. It's the same thing every year. This talent is better than the results. Oh well, same ole same ole.

This.

But haven't you heard??? We are Mittippi Tate and can't do no betta.****

Turfdawg67
03-03-2020, 09:30 PM
If this team were coached by Richard Williams and/or Stans, we would be at 23-225 wins now. Two things would be a complete certainty.....we would be nasty on defense and we would own the boards! With Williams, we would run multiple offensive sets vs man and zone defenses.

Yes, but you wouldn't have the talent! So it's back to 19-22 wins. Sorry, truth hurts.

Thick
03-03-2020, 09:32 PM
That?s true. With this talent was the purpose for the post.

Commercecomet24
03-03-2020, 09:36 PM
It's the same thing every game. 5-7 minutes without scoring, mind numbing turnovers and empty offensive possessions, passes to nobody, etc. We haven't improved at all it's the same ole same ole. Same script every game sometimes we overcome it sometimes we don't and it's the reason we'll never win big. We'll have mediocre to good records but never win anything. Lather rinse repeat.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 09:47 PM
I just don't think it's nick's fault. He's not a pg, and he's not a shooter. He's just sorta a tweener. I like him and I want him back next season, but I want no part of him logging the lion's share of mins at the 1.

If Nick wants to play at the next level, he's going to have to overhaul his stroke. Lonzo Ball did, he can do it.

dawgday166
03-03-2020, 09:52 PM
Buy or sell
We win more games if Nick doesnt come back to school this year

Buy.

the_real_MSU_is_us
03-03-2020, 09:59 PM
1) We made 8 more FTs than them, so no overall they didn't "get away" with fouling us and we didn't get that screwed by refs.

2) Carter went 4/5 from 3, 6/7 from the line, and 7/10 overall for 24 points. A bench player gave us 24 points 10-14 more than he usually does. We should have won with a night like that.

3) we outrebounded SC both offensively and defensively.

4) None of SCs players "went off". Kostar had 20 but he was 9/22; nobody else had more than 12. The point here is that EVERYONE was able to score a bit on us, and it wasn't some great individual play that we couldn't have accounted for. Everyone they put on the floor was equally as effective vs us.

5) SC wasn't hot from 3 by any stretch.

What does it mean when you shoot more FTs, get more rebounds, have a bench player go off, have none of the other team's players go off, their team overall isn't hot shooting.... and you still loose? Anyone know how you lose a game with all those advantages?

It's coaching fellas. It's having a team that doesn't know what to do on O so they turn it over, that doesn't know what to do on D so they give up easy baskets to nobodies. People can talk all day about how Howlands recruiting isn't better than many SEC teams so we shouldn't expect to win all that much... buddy SC's bench scored 31 on 12/21 shooting and it's full of nobodies. Don't tell me they're comparable to Perry, Woodard, Ado, etc. cause they aren't, yet they ate us up. Howland is the reason we lost.

P.S. not to bash on a player, but don't give me that "tweener" crap about Nick. He played like ass any way you slice it; 90% of true 2s in this league can run point better than him, and 90% of true 1s can shoot the 3 better too. His athleticism is insane but I think we're better off next year with a true 1 and 2 on the floor, vs a guy who can't do either.

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 10:05 PM
Buddy if you look at the box score to determine if a game was called correctly you've already lost the debate. If you didn't watch I understand. Watching it will paint a better picture. South Carolina committed 35+ fouls tonight. Not near enough of them were called.

Add some bad tic tac and blatantly incorrect calls against Perry and Carter (our two players dominating when they were in) and the officiating is the story.

msstate7
03-03-2020, 10:10 PM
Buddy if you look at the box score to determine if a game was called correctly you've already lost the debate. If you didn't watch I understand. Watching it will paint a better picture. South Carolina committed 35+ fouls tonight. Not near enough of them were called.

Add some bad tic tac and blatantly incorrect calls against Perry and Carter (our two players dominating when they were in) and the officiating is the story.

I agree. SC hacked us all night.

HoopsDawg
03-03-2020, 10:11 PM
Our first half drought and the charge on Perry were 2 huge factors to the loss. No guards could make a 3 tonight other than Carter. We needed one more shooter.

the_real_MSU_is_us
03-03-2020, 10:13 PM
Buddy if you look at the box score to determine if a game was called correctly you've already lost the debate. If you didn't watch I understand. Watching it will paint a better picture. South Carolina committed 35+ fouls tonight. Not near enough of them were called.

Add some bad tic tac and blatantly incorrect calls against Perry and Carter (our two players dominating when they were in) and the officiating is the story.

Way to ignore all the other stats and points because you think one of the points I made doesn't tell the whole tale. For example riddle me this: How does SC fouling us when we have the ball mean we have to let nobodies off their bench get high % shots in the paint?

dantheman4248
03-03-2020, 10:17 PM
Way to ignore all the other stats and points because you think one of the points I made doesn't tell the whole tale. For example riddle me this: How does SC fouling us when we have the ball mean we have to let nobodies off their bench get high % shots in the paint?

I addressed that. We had two players in heavy foul trouble that played most of the night. Perry played 10 minutes with 4 fouls. That affects defense. But you didn't watch so there's no point in discussing any further.

BayouDawg
03-03-2020, 10:25 PM
Well, we looked better against Villanova w/o Nick than we have the rest of the year.

Agree. And the team got noticeably worse immediately when nick came back

Cowbell
03-03-2020, 10:29 PM
LOL at those that thought we were turning some corner. Howland coached teams never turn the corner. It's the same thing every year. This talent is better than the results. Oh well, same ole same ole.
It's like Watching Groundhog Day.

Cowbell
03-03-2020, 10:32 PM
Agree. Hopefully he reevaluates this offseason
Hopefully he retires this offseason.

Dawgology
03-04-2020, 08:31 AM
Hopefully he retires this offseason.

He won't. But it is fun to dream.

AROB44
03-04-2020, 12:36 PM
Be careful what you wish for.....

R2Dawg
03-04-2020, 12:55 PM
Buddy if you look at the box score to determine if a game was called correctly you've already lost the debate. If you didn't watch I understand. Watching it will paint a better picture. South Carolina committed 35+ fouls tonight. Not near enough of them were called.

Add some bad tic tac and blatantly incorrect calls against Perry and Carter (our two players dominating when they were in) and the officiating is the story.

Bingo. Anyone that don't realize how fouls are called affect the game of basketball, don't know basketball or has never played. It was an issue last night. That was my fear going into this game at USC. They are famous for this at home. There were some stretches of foul calls on both ends that were criminal against us on 3-4 in a row. The touch fouls on their end and mugging on our end take a team out mentally if not literally from the game.

Not saying that is only reason we lose. We were lazy on D too much, poor execution at times. USC to get hot in spurts which was nail in coffin at the end.

tcdog70
03-04-2020, 08:42 PM
You guys dissing on Nick makes me want to puke. are you same ones that constantly ragged on Q. Nick is our best on ball defender. At least twice last night he got hammered on a drive but no call. He would have had several assists if our post players would have caught the Ball and made lay-ups. shit , he set up Woodard and DJ for wide ass open 3s and they bricked them. We had several times to make baskets, but couldn't shoot. Having Reggie sitting out because of fouls is a killer. Carter has a habit of making stupid fouls. I hope Nick comes back and we play Him at the 2. He will be all-sec.

tcdog70
03-04-2020, 08:45 PM
Agree. And the team got noticeably worse immediately when nick came back

Could it be we started playing SEC games and the competition was better. If you remember when Nick came back Carter went into a severe funk.

Joebob
03-05-2020, 10:49 AM
I was a dumbass

Yeah, but you made me laugh.

Joebob
03-05-2020, 11:02 AM
It's like Watching Groundhog Day.

I swear, that exact thught just went through my mind.

msstate7
03-05-2020, 11:03 AM
Teams go on big runs and droughts in almost every game, NBA included

Thick
03-05-2020, 11:26 AM
I agree with you, but when teams go on runs against us it?s due to LAZY defense. We don?t get back in transition, we play slow, poor weak side/help defense, and/or just completely out of position. Reggie jogs back on defense after a missed shot.

Cooterpoot
03-05-2020, 11:31 AM
You guys complaining about fouls not being called etc. need to move on. That shit is the SEC home court advantage that's been built into the game for years. It makes SEC basketball terrible to watch but you know it's going to happen before you play.

msstate7
03-05-2020, 11:32 AM
You guys complaining about fouls not being called etc. need to move on. That shit is the SEC home court advantage that's been built into the game for years. It makes SEC basketball terrible to watch but you know it's going to happen before you play.

Can't really argue with this

BayouDawg
03-05-2020, 11:27 PM
Could it be we started playing SEC games and the competition was better. If you remember when Nick came back Carter went into a severe funk.

Thats true. Im thinking more along the lines of the New Mexico cluster his first game back. It looked like the chemistry of the team just imploded