Well that was an inauspicious start

[State82]

KC Hunt could not get past the second inning.

[Rick Danko]

FireLemonis!!!!!!***

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

Probably need a change in the S&C department. It's painfully obvious on the field that we are soft

[BeardoMSU]

Probably need a change in the S&C department. It's painfully obvious on the field that we are soft

Why stop there. We should just clean house.*

[bulldogcountry1]

The endless pickoff moves by the TSU pitcher is making this hard to watch.

[Dawg2003]

I'm scared to see who we are pitching tomorrow.

[PMDawg]

Lol. Getting blown out by an 0-9 team, in our park.

No MSU fan could ever see that coming.**

[BeardoMSU]

Lol. Getting blown out by an 0-9 team, in our park.

No MSU fan could ever see that coming.**

We're slow rollin' em, lol.

[mparkerfd20]

Wr look like shit

[Lord McBuckethead]

Landon Jordan. Not impressing me this season so far. Do we not have a better DH? Cumbest would rake this slow throwing fool.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Just some lazy ass swings.

[TNDawg35]

This is horrible. I have yet to see any coach get in anyone?s ass...

[mparkerfd20]

2 innings later we also smell like shit

[State82]

This team was 0-9. This is a head scratcher and you can't justify it in any way.

[mparkerfd20]

We're going to lose to an 0-9 team. Fu ck me

[Offshore Dawg]

I think I remember some of you experts saying this team will be able to hit and score runs, So far this appears to be a limp dick effort.

[MaroonFlounder]

Infield defense has been terrible this game.

[starkvegasdawg]

Remind me to thank my son for catching the flu from me and making us not able to be at this game.

[Lord McBuckethead]

You 17n kidding on the 1st base ump looking out into right field on a check swing call?

[Lord McBuckethead]

This team was 0-9. This is a head scratcher and you can't justify it in any way.

Ahhh they are batting like they like to hit the ball. Taking advantage of every pitch and every mistake. Anyone can beat anyone if you are executing.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Remind me to thank my son for catching the flu from me and making us not able to be at this game.

I would rather have the flu than be at this game.

[Lord McBuckethead]

That guy was safe at 2nd. Westy making winning decisions all day.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Just throw it to 1st for 17s sake.

[Lord McBuckethead]

4 runs is doable if we get our heads out of ass. But 5, thats tough.

[Saltydog]

So far, I've been extremely disappointed in our hitting. Bad thing is, our pitching may be worse.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I would like to thank the 1st base ump again for not doing his damn job. He probably didn't go around, but still. No decision.

[TNDawg35]

We better figure out how to hit the ball or we in big big trouble. It seems like everyone is trying to hit it to Memphis every damn at bat...

[msstate7]

Yikes, RPI killer

[Lord McBuckethead]

So far, I've been extremely disappointed in our hitting. Bad thing is, our pitching may be worse.

Look, against these pitchers we should be attacking. But no, we are basically performing a swinging bunt every swing that touches the ball. We are getting literally nothing out of our 6-9 hitters. Westy is at least swinging. Allen is just throwing the bat out there and Riwdey doesnt really scar me.

Now we follow that with a little pop up to third. Good rally energy.

Next, cut the bitch ass country music walk up music. That shit is just weak.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Hancock is standing 30 inches from the plate too.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Nice. 3 easy fly balls. My only regret is that the bottom of order even has to go take at bats.

[Activated Alpha]

Ever since the Sunday letdown I had a bad feeling going into this week. Our offense is just horrendous. I don't feel confident heading into this weekend against a pretty good LBS team

[Offshore Dawg]

Ever since the Sunday letdown I had a bad feeling going into this week. Our offense is just horrendous. I don't feel confident heading into this weekend against a pretty good LBS team

What do you mean weekend I'm wondering about Alcorn tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Saltydog]

They swept a good Wake Forest team. I could see the same happening to us...?.

[Skydawg1]

Ever since the Sunday letdown I had a bad feeling going into this week. Our offense is just horrendous. I don't feel confident heading into this weekend against a pretty good LBS teamWe have to get past Alcorn tomorrow night.

[Dawg2003]

Alcorn is better than this team.

[PMDawg]

This is the worst loss I can remember. Absolutely pathetic.

[msudawg1200]

This is the worst loss I can remember. Absolutely pathetic.

It's not just that we're losing to an 0-9 SWAC team, we are losing 8 to fricking 3.

[Lord McBuckethead]

This is the worst loss I can remember. Absolutely pathetic.

Well this is Mississippi State's MO for the past few years. Good teams, choke artist. Now that isn't exactly fair to the only squad we have that literally hasn't shit the bed in the past 4 years. So, I will give them this 1 bad showing. This one.

[HoopsDawg]

We have some major holes in the batting order.

[HoopsDawg]

This is the worst loss I can remember. Absolutely pathetic.

That's not an over-reaction. Can someone name a worse loss?

[msstate7]

That's not an over-reaction. Can someone name a worse loss?

Croom to Maine

[RocketDawg]

That's not an over-reaction. Can someone name a worse loss?

We're about to have a 6 run rally.

[HoopsDawg]

Croom to Maine

baseball only.

As for Maine, Croom said they were more talented than us.

[Bodawg]

Guess our players been to busy getting ring sizes during the off season instead of getting in the batting cage.

[RocketDawg]

Their new pitcher is really hyper.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Maine was so bad, it counts.

[msstate7]

Is piementel tanner Poole from the left side?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Leggett, really?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Leggett missed on all his swings by a combined 17 inches.

[Offshore Dawg]

That sucked !!

[Saltydog]

At least Poole was great defensively......

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well, now this team has burned their 1 WTF game. Lemonis needs to be all over their ass about giving away at bats. We literally gave away about 14 at bats.

[Skydawg1]

That's baseball.

[HoopsDawg]

Leggett, really?

how do we not Pinch hit there?

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Leggett missed on all his swings by a combined 17 inches.

That's what happens when you keep swinging at pitches 18 inches off the plate at your shins

[KOdawg1]

Pathetic. Our RPI is shot now. For a team that returned so much offensive talent, we look like shit. We've lost our Friday guy. Our Sunday guy can't throw strikes. This isn't looking good.

[HoopsDawg]

. For a team that returned so much offensive talent, we look like shit. .

Did we though? We returned 4 guys. A lot of new and unproven players in the lineup.

[Homedawg]

I would like to thank the 1st base ump again for not doing his damn job. He probably didn't go around, but still. No decision.

He didn't turn around until after. Hell man they dude didn't swing.

[KOdawg1]

Did we though? We returned 4 guys. A lot of new and unproven players in the lineup.
The only new people in the line up are Pimentel and James. Our junior core (Rowdy, Westburg, TA, Foscue, Hatcher) should be plenty to put together a good offense. We look like we've regressed.

[HoopsDawg]

The only new people in the line up are Pimentel and James. Our junior core (Rowdy, Westburg, TA, Foscue, Hatcher) should be plenty to put together a good offense. We look like we've regressed.

Skelton was our main catcher last year, not Hancock. Hatcher hasn't really hit the ball in 2 years.

Hatcher, Hancock, James, Pimentel and Hancock= none of those guys were everyday players last year.

[Cooterpoot]

Skelton was our main catcher last year, not Hancock. Hatcher hasn't really hit the ball in 2 years.

Hatcher, Hancock, James, Pimentel and Hancock= none of those guys were everyday players last year.

This^^. And everyone was premature with the "this team is loaded" takes. We'll be good but we've got holes too.

[PKADogs55]

Lemonis in the post game press conference looked sick to his stomach

[KOdawg1]

Skelton was our main catcher last year, not Hancock. Hatcher hasn't really hit the ball in 2 years.

Hatcher, Hancock, James, Pimentel and Hancock= none of those guys were everyday players last year.
I'm aware.

[Cooterpoot]

Lemonis in the post game press conference looked sick to his stomach

He should be. We've failed to show up last two games. It's time for him to sit a couple guys.

[Skydawg1]

Lemonis in the post game press conference looked sick to his stomachWhere did u see the post game presser?

[HoopsDawg]

He should be. We've failed to show up last two games. It's time for him to sit a couple guys.

Even our wins, Oregon St. walked a ton of batters.

[State82]

This is up there with our top 10 most embarrassing losses in any sport.

[maroonmania]

Lemonis in the post game press conference looked sick to his stomach

This will be an interesting year for Lemonis to see how he handles things. He seems like a very laid back guy for the most part. But this year he doesn't really have emotional leaders on the team like Mangum and Mac.

[HoopsDawg]

This will be an interesting year for Lemonis to see how he handles things. He seems like a very laid back guy for the most part. But this year he doesn't really have emotional leaders on the team like Mangum and Mac.

True. And maybe the crazy turnover at coach has finally caught up with us recruiting wise.

[Turfdawg67]

Probably need a change in the S&C department. It's painfully obvious on the field that we are soft

Just started the thread so I haven't read this yet, but it's prob in there as it's the new "go to" saying... but just in case,

These guys' baseball IQ is bad! ***

[Turfdawg67]

Pathetic. Our RPI is shot now. For a team that returned so much offensive talent, we look like shit. We've lost our Friday guy. Our Sunday guy can't throw strikes. This isn't looking good.

6 games into the season? GTFO of here.

[KOdawg1]

6 games into the season? GTFO of here.

Where did I say we were doomed? I said it's not looking good. It's not. This was a horrible loss. If you say otherwise, you're delusional. It's going to hurt our RPI bc Texas Southern will be a 200 RPI team. We could turn it around and go 25-5 in SEC play for all I know. Doesn't mean the season is over and I never suggested otherwise, so go 17 yourself

[Todd4State]

Here's the thing that bothers me the most as a baseball fan. I feel like part of the reason we lost is because we didn't respect the game. That's on the coaches. Just leave a guy out there to rot and allow 7 runs? Take shitty at bats? Make a ton of errors? Oh don't worry we're Mississippi State. We'll blow these guys out. And then we ran out of time.

And I'll say it. Lemonis needs to get his head out of his ass and quit pitching Dunleavy and playing Tanner Leggett so much. I was a little surprised both even made the team honestly. Even more surprised that they are playing so much.

And again Gautreau needs to stop treating our guys like minor league hitters and start actually ****ing coach in game and make some adjustments rather than let everyone fall on their ass and play "now you'll listen to me won't ya?".

[Bothrops]

Texas Southern is a good team, they just like to pretend they aren't most of the time.

[Skydawg1]

Texas Southern is a good team, they just like to pretend they aren't most of the time.I know you're kidding, but any SWAC team is no longer a guaranteed mid-week win. And we sure treated them like one tonight. Starting to get very bad feelings about this team and the next 4 games.

[HoopsDawg]

Texas Southern is a good team, they just like to pretend they aren't most of the time.

0-9 SWAC school. 1-9 now though.

[KOdawg1]

I know you're kidding, but any SWAC team is no longer a guaranteed mid-week win. And we sure treated them like one tonight. Starting to get very bad feelings about this team and the next 4 games.
I'm not so sure why we even schedule SWAC type teams. If you win, congrats you were supposed to. If you lose, they hurt your resume. There's no upside to playing them

[HoopsDawg]

Here's the thing that bothers me the most as a baseball fan. I feel like part of the reason we lost is because we didn't respect the game. That's on the coaches. Just leave a guy out there to rot and allow 7 runs? Take shitty at bats? Make a ton of errors? Oh don't worry we're Mississippi State. We'll blow these guys out. And then we ran out of time.

And I'll say it. Lemonis needs to get his head out of his ass and quit pitching Dunleavy and playing Tanner Leggett so much. I was a little surprised both even made the team honestly. Even more surprised that they are playing so much.

And again Gautreau needs to stop treating our guys like minor league hitters and start actually ****ing coach in game and make some adjustments rather than let everyone fall on their ass and play "now you'll listen to me won't ya?".

We only gave up 4 earned runs. Huge error from Westburg. Hunt 3, Dunlavy 1.

Agree on the AB's. Hatcher in the 8th was a perfect example. Leadoff hitter, down 5 runs. Swings at the first pitch, curveball, bottom of the zone and pops it up. 3 up, 3 down, non-competitive at bats.

[HoopsDawg]

I'm not so sure why we even schedule SWAC type teams. If you win, congrats you were supposed to. If you lose, they hurt your resume. There's no upside to playing them

correct, win or lose and it hurts you.

[Bothrops]

1-9 now though.

Like I said**

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I'm not so sure why we even schedule SWAC type teams. If you win, congrats you were supposed to. If you lose, they hurt your resume. There's no upside to playing them

I think we schedule them because we want easy games to get all our arms involved and given a chance to work through problems.

Play decent teams and you might not be able to leave a bad pitcher in long enough for them to learn anything. Play a Swac team and Hunt crapping them bed shouldnt matter.

[Todd4State]

We only gave up 4 earned runs. Huge error from Westburg. Hunt 3, Dunlavy 1.

Agree on the AB's. Hatcher in the 8th was a perfect example. Leadoff hitter, down 5 runs. Swings at the first pitch, curveball, bottom of the zone and pops it up. 3 up, 3 down, non-competitive at bats.

The 4 earned runs is an example of a baseball scoring anomaly. Why was that error huge? Because Dunlavey put runners on and it made it even worse. Neither should have happened. It's everyone on the teams fault.

[Todd4State]

I think we schedule them because we want easy games to get all our arms involved and given a chance to work through problems.

Play decent teams and you might not be able to leave a bad pitcher in long enough for them to learn anything. Play a Swac team and Hunt crapping them bed shouldnt matter.

I'm fine scheduling a couple of them a year but we definitely schedule too many. I can't complain too much about the schedule OOC though. Oregon State, Long Beach State, Texas Tech, USM, Ole Mis, Samford, etc. It's pretty respectable overall.

[wild_dawg]

The season is no where near over and we could still very well be a national seed, but this will be a huge black mark on our rpi.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Expectations were probably a bit too high after losing Magnum

[HoopsDawg]

Expectations were probably a bit too high after losing Magnum

And Small and Mac and the unsung guy- Skelton. And now we are dealing with losses of Ginn and Smith.

Need a couple of bats to get going.

[Todd4State]

Expectations were probably a bit too high after losing Magnum

I don't think so. We had two guys who were potentially first round picks in Ginn and Westburg. Foscue is a top five round pick and Tanner Allen and Rowdey Jordan are good veteran college players.

At any rate we definitely shouldn't lose to Texas Southern.

What frustrates me some is when I see the coaching staff putting guys out there that struggled in the fall and spring and then they keep putting them out there on the field in key situations. It's not surprising at all to me that Dunlavey and Leggett have been bad. It's also not surprising to me that Pimentel has struggled although I think he will be good in time. It's like Lemonis's attitude is just throw them out there and let them all figure it out. I guess that works OK if you have Jake Mangum kicking people in the ass when needed but he's not here any more to do that so now Lemonis has to actually coach.

[BuckyIsAB****]

That's not an over-reaction. Can someone name a worse loss?

We lost to Jackson St at Trustmark Park one year

[KOdawg1]

We lost to Jackson St at Trustmark Park one year

Were they winless?

[PKADogs55]

Well he (Lemonis) mentioned tonight that he is going to have to do a better job at setting the lineup .. Good AB, Good AB, then Sloppy AB. I realize the pitchers we faced tonight were not burning them in there, but there didnt seem to be any adjustments at the plate throughout the game. It was almost just .. Swing Away and see what happens.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Were they winless?

I dont remember but I do recall having to wait to go to work on the field after bc Cohen was making their asses run foul line to foul line. Then when OM mopped the floor with us I think in 2015 Cohen we had to wait again bc he ripped them for 15 mins then made them run foul poles. I worked on the grounds crew while I went to JUCO

[Todd4State]

We lost to Jackson St at Trustmark Park one year

Yeah. That MSU team had a losing record that year too. The wheels came off after that loss.


I dont remember but I do recall having to wait to go to work on the field after bc Cohen was making their asses run foul line to foul line. Then when OM mopped the floor with us I think in 2015 Cohen we had to wait again bc he ripped them for 15 mins then made them run foul poles. I worked on the grounds crew while I went to JUCO

Yeah well, Cohen shouldn't have started Ross Mitchell that game. That was dumb on his part. Anyway I remember hearing that after we lost the Governor's Cup in I think 2009 or 2010 Cohen made the bus stop somewhere in the middle of nowhere in the backwoods of Mississippi and just ripped the team's ass right there for about 10 minutes.

[ShotgunDawg]

Expectations were probably a bit too high after losing Magnum

Losing Mangum had much less to do with it than losing all that pitching & Ginn.

I think the lineup will be fine, but the pitching staff lacks talent

[Todd4State]

Well he (Lemonis) mentioned tonight that he is going to have to do a better job at setting the lineup .. Good AB, Good AB, then Sloppy AB. I realize the pitchers we faced tonight were not burning them in there, but there didnt seem to be any adjustments at the plate throughout the game. It was almost just .. Swing Away and see what happens.

Adjustment number one is to sit Pimentel for now. Play Cumbest and Brock.

Adjustment number two is to never to play Tanner Leggett ever again. Him making the team over Noah Fondren is way more questionable than Michael Smith over Luke Reynolds. At least Smith could contribute stolen bases and play defense. I can't figure that move out because Fondren is way more versatile and just a better player overall.

Adjustment number three is to tell Gautreau to get off his ass before SEC play instead of just assuming that every hitter wants to just do their own thing and not listen to him. Surely in our own ballpark we have some kind of hitting tunnel where our guys can set the machine to 84 MPH. Or hell at the very least tell them to scoot up in the batter's box or ****ing something. Maybe....just maybe Gautreau the players will actually listen to you if you give them some feedback. I mean give them the benefit of the doubt.

And he needs to tell Foxhall that Dunlavy need to sit for the rest of the year too. He was below average at Furman and then couldn't get our guys out and now we're running him out there regularly.

[Todd4State]

Losing Mangum had much less to do with it than losing all that pitching & Ginn.

I think the lineup will be fine, but the pitching staff lacks talent

I'll just say this- if Jack Eagan is healthy I'm going to be pissed even more about tonight. Because we have better talent than the guys that got lit up tonight. I don't disagree about the talent part because that was my concern coming into the season and it's mostly a hodge-podge of JUCO's, freshmen, and grad transfers but this is not the first time Foxhall has made a pretty head scratching decision with the staff. He grossly underused Colby White last year and used Trysten Barlow and Riley Self way too much. It cost us in Omaha against Vanderbilt.

[PKADogs55]

Adjustment number one is to sit Pimentel for now. Play Cumbest and Brock.

Adjustment number two is to never to play Tanner Leggett ever again. Him making the team over Noah Fondren is way more questionable than Michael Smith over Luke Reynolds. At least Smith could contribute stolen bases and play defense. I can't figure that move out because Fondren is way more versatile and just a better player overall.

Adjustment number three is to tell Gautreau to get off his ass before SEC play instead of just assuming that every hitter wants to just do their own thing and not listen to him. Surely in our own ballpark we have some kind of hitting tunnel where our guys can set the machine to 84 MPH. Or hell at the very least tell them to scoot up in the batter's box or ****ing something. Maybe....just maybe Gautreau the players will actually listen to you if you give them some feedback. I mean give them the benefit of the doubt.

And he needs to tell Foxhall that Dunlavy need to sit for the rest of the year too. He was below average at Furman and then couldn't get our guys out and now we're running him out there regularly.

Could not agree with you more!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'm not saying that the loss doesn't matter, cause it's a really bad loss. But people seem to be quick to forget that our world beater 2016 team who IMO was a top 5 team in MSU history lost to Eastern Kentucky and Oral Roberts in consecutive nights. They followed that up by taking two of 3 at Vandy, who was number 1 at the time. You can recover from midweek losses. Cohen always had a couple of WTF midweek losses. Our bats need to wake up, but this doesn't doom the season.