Brandon Woodruff

[MsStateBaseball]

Had an excellent first live outing today. He will be the Friday starter. I hope he wins 10 games and gets drafted in 1st round.

[Saltydog]

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[Todd4State]

His fastball was topping out at 96 and he was consistently at 94-95. He is allowed to throw breaking balls, and he was at 82-83.

[Saltydog]

this squad the more I hear about them........Prolly not as much pop in the lineup but the pitching staff could be wicked.......

[messageboardsuperhero]

Consistently mid 90s with really good off speed stuff. Apparently nobody got close to squaring anything up on him. When Woody builds up his stamina, he'll have a chance to be dominant.

[messageboardsuperhero]

this squad the more I hear about them........Prolly not as much pop in the lineup but the pitching staff could be wicked.......

Not so fast about the pop in the lineup. I expect us to have as many, if not more XBH this year than last year.

[Jacksondevildog]

Gene said that a scout told him today that if Woodruff performs like this, he'll be a first rounder.

[Todd4State]

Gene said that a scout told him today that if Woodruff performs like this, he'll be a first rounder.

Him and Lindgren both have that kind of potential.

[ShotgunDawg]

Him and Lindgren both have that kind of potential.

Lindgren isn't a first rounder. He's a reliever in pro-ball which will likely drop him to the 3rd-5th round. Lindgren has rigid delivery and only two velocity levels. MLB middle reliever package.

Good pitcher and will probably play in the big leagues, but not a 1st or 2nd round ceiling.

[Jacksondevildog]

No question. I talked to a scout last week that really liked Lindgren. He said that he will be great for us out of the bullpen. I just feel that Lindgren isn't a starting pitcher. I'm not saying that he can't be. It just seems that his mental makeup and stamina would be better coming out of the bullpen or starting against left handed-heavy lineups in midweek or so.

[Will James]

Lindgren isn't a first rounder. He's a reliever in pro-ball which will likely drop him to the 3rd-5th round.

Child please

[ShotgunDawg]

Child please

Haha, want to put money on it?

[Will James]

I hope he wins 10 games.

The least of my hopes.

I'm hoping he has a 30%+ K rate and <7% BB rate. 95+ IP.

[ShotgunDawg]

The least of my hopes.

I'm hoping he has a 30%+ K rate and <7% BB rate. 95+ IP.

No doubt, I hope he has a great year, and helps MSU win a CWS. Just saying that I don't think he will be a first rounder, because, unless you have closer stuff as a reliever, you don't sniff the first round

[Will James]

No doubt, I hope he has a great year, and helps MSU win a CWS. Just saying that I don't think he will be a first rounder, because, unless you have closer stuff as a reliever, you don't sniff the first round

My hope was talking Woody. But Lingo has those expectations too.

[ShotgunDawg]

My hope was talking Woody. But Lingo has those expectations too.

Woodruff will have every opportunity to move in the first round and be taken between picks 15-25. He just needs to perform and stay healthy. The stuff is there, the question will be more medically related

[messageboardsuperhero]

If Woody and Lindgren can pitch up to their potentials for 85-100 innings each going into the postseason, we're going to have a damn good season.

ETA: Now all we need is for Paul Young to get healthy. Hopefully he won't need surgery.

[Todd4State]

Lindgren isn't a first rounder. He's a reliever in pro-ball which will likely drop him to the 3rd-5th round. Lindgren has rigid delivery and only two velocity levels. MLB middle reliever package.

Good pitcher and will probably play in the big leagues, but not a 1st or 2nd round ceiling.

He's left handed and throws in the mid to upper 90's. Not very many guys in MLB are like that.

[bully99]

There are two things I don't do. Argue with The Ref about weather and Will James about baseball stats. When will we know about Paul Young's future.

[Todd4State]

Woodruff will have every opportunity to move in the first round and be taken between picks 15-25. He just needs to perform and stay healthy. The stuff is there, the question will be more medically related

His health won't be a big concern. The only issue he has ever had was last year and that was corrected- and is probably less concerning than someone having had Tommy John. The fact that we caught it so early actually is going to make MSU look good in that regard- and that's a big deal for recruiting.

[Todd4State]

There are two things I don't do. Argue with The Ref about weather and Will James about baseball stats. When will we know about Paul Young's future.

They're going to let him rest his arm for now and then re-evalaute his arm in January.

[ShotgunDawg]

He's left handed and throws in the mid to upper 90's. Not very many guys in MLB are like that.

I've never seen upper 90's, but, if that's true, then you are still looking at a reliever that could go in the 2nd round due to velocity. I've only seen him up to 93.

[Saltydog]

ever seen a MSU staff with four arms like Woodruff, Lindgren, Dakota Hudson and Paul Young (when healthy).........That's not even mentioning Holder, who I'd still like to see get a couple more mph on that fastball...........

[Todd4State]

I've never seen upper 90's, but, if that's true, then you are still looking at a reliever that could go in the 2nd round due to velocity. I've only seen him up to 93.

Jacob had a really good summer in the Cape- I think that's where he may have turned the corner so to speak. He had a couple of really solid starts late in the season for his summer ball team, and to be honest he had probably the most dominant start of anyone last year against Auburn. He also came out of the bullpen some as well in the Cape.

[Jacksondevildog]

You didn't even mention Austin Sexton who can touch low to mid 90's. He is a possible starter as a true freshman.

[bully99]

Todd, has Paul Young been seen by Dr.Andrews or another top specialist. It just seems over the years the give it a rest rarely works. It's usually surgery in they end.

[AlSwearengen]

Child please


This made me laugh.

[AlSwearengen]

Question. These velocities that we are throwing around, are they from Gene's gun, which is a little fast?

[MsStateBaseball]

What we don't know about Youngs elbow is how it feels right now. Pain could have decreased by now. Coaches know the drill. Rest is good then start throwing in January to see how it feels

[Todd4State]

Todd, has Paul Young been seen by Dr.Andrews or another top specialist. It just seems over the years the give it a rest rarely works. It's usually surgery in they end.

I think the only doctor he has seen is MSU's team doctor, which would be Rusty Linton. I hate to agree with you about rest rarely working, but you are right about that.

[Todd4State]

Question. These velocities that we are throwing around, are they from Gene's gun, which is a little fast?

I got it off of MSU's baseball twitter account, so I assume that they are using the gun at Dudy-Noble.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Question. These velocities that we are throwing around, are they from Gene's gun, which is a little fast?

I'm usually pretty skeptical about Gene's gun too, but the readings he's been getting for Lindgren are pretty consistent with what scouts and our coaches were getting this summer. Also, the numbers he had for Woody today are essentially identical to what was being put out by the baseball twitter account.

I think he's been pretty accurate with velocities this fall.

[bully99]

If that's the case that he hasn't gotten other opinions then his parents should take matters into their own hands because this kid looks like he might have a pro career.

[Todd4State]

If that's the case that he hasn't gotten other opinions then his parents should take matters into their own hands because this kid looks like he might have a pro career.

We've had players go to Dr. Andrew's before. Ben Bracewell comes to mind. Dr. Linton did the surgery on Woodruff.

I agree with how we are handling Young. He hasn't really pitched much at all until last year in JUCO, so there's a very good chance it's just from fatigue. If he's still sore in January, we can always get a second opinion.

[Todd4State]

I'm usually pretty skeptical about Gene's gun too, but the readings he's been getting for Lindgren are pretty consistent with what scouts and our coaches were getting this summer. Also, the numbers he had for Woody today are essentially identical to what was being put out by the baseball twitter account.

I think he's been pretty accurate with velocities this fall.

I have my conspiracy theories about Gene's gun. I think he was pumping up some of our pitchers in the past. That isn't necessary with our current team.

He may have also heard the criticism and finally realized that his credibility would be better if he simply told the truth rather than embellish. He may have gotten a new radar gun- I know he bought some new guns when he had his baseball only web site a few years ago.

If I ever use a radar gun reading from Gene- which is very rare, I make note of it in the post so that everyone knows to take it with a grain of salt. It's silly to pump up guys velocity when that is only one component of pitching- and most would consider it to be the least important trait a pitcher can have.