Basketball vs Texas A&M

[RocketDawg]

It's on at the same time as baseball.

2-2 early on.

The announcer just said "irregardless".

[Dawgology]

Reggie Perry is not good at basketball anymore. Is he hurt or something or just has his mind on the NBA. He's legit terrible at this point

[RocketDawg]

Bad passes and turnovers. 10-4 A&M.

[RocketDawg]

It's hard to tell but I think we're in maroon today. Might be black.

[RLM38654]

slow start

[RLM38654]

This is gonna be a grinder.

[RLM38654]

Ado has really improved out of no where, he no longer as brick hands. 20-18 MSU 7:24 1st

[Dawgology]

We have so many dumb turnover. Lazy passes, traveling, just really avoidable stuff

[msu15]

I miss the days when it was exciting to watch us play. Snoozefest

[Dawgology]

Reggie "Lost-the-ball" Perry. That dude will never play a worthwhile minute in the NBA.

[schddog72]

It's on at the same time as baseball.

2-2 early on.

The announcer just said "irregardless".


The announcer is right . . . . . (sort of)

[HoopsDawg]

Molinar 5 points in only 5 minutes, sigh.

Woodard was bad that half on both ends.

[RLM38654]

Molinar 5 points in only 5 minutes, sigh.

Woodard was bad that half on both ends.

That's unbelievable. It really is.

[msu15]

Getting beat up inside when we're the bigger team.

[chef dixon]

Tough part is we are shooting over 50% and winning on the glass and foul department and it's close

[RLM38654]

Nick Weatherspoon just has one speed. 100 mph

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm not in favor of firing Howland, but this team's offense is painful to watch

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that they are horribly coached offensively.

[HoopsDawg]

Just a horrible performance so far. Carter with 3 points. DJ 0-6.

[dantheman4248]

secn sound mixing is horrible. i'm watching on tv, not listening on the radio. turn down the announcers and up the sounds from the game. sheesh.

[ShotgunDawg]

The lack of leadership and focus of these guys is atrocious

[HoopsDawg]

Carter with a trash pass so we take out Molinar?!?

[KOdawg1]

This team just doesn't have the IQ or the toughness to play well on the road.

[cheewgumm]

They are playing zone, so like every other game where someone plays zone against us - we stop scoring.

[Saltydog]

half full, we're going to be a high seed in the NIT.

[NCDawg]

I've come to the conclusion this team is not very good. I don't see much effort on the floor. Pretty obvious we have no one on the team ready for the NBA.

[West Tn Dawg]

Very little effort! Loafing back has cost them at least 10 pts. Sucks!

[MaroonFlounder]

NIT it is.

[dantheman4248]

"Toughest shot of the night and it goes in."

We're about to talent our way to a win here. Bad looks. Head scratching plays. But we'll claw back in. Somehow.

[HoopsDawg]

Woodard, stop helping off of Flagg, shit.

[dantheman4248]

Man. Off ball movement creates good looks when you get the opponent gassed and not able to keep up.

Amazing revolutionary concept for us.

Lmao man we could be so good if we understood this with any consistency

[HoopsDawg]

Nick, you can't sag that low. Come on.

[RocketDawg]

The A&M announcers have got to be the worst I've ever heard.

[RLM38654]

What can you say?

[msstate7]

This sucks. Knew this game was gonna be tough

[maroonmania]

Surprised anyone really thought we could finish 4-1 in the final 5 SEC games given 3 of them are on the road. Any road win for this team for me is unexpected against a decent team. We were fortunate to catch Arkansas during a stretch where they are stinking.

[msstate7]

How stupid is nick? He is a complete idiot

[Saltydog]

AND that alone should be enough for Howland's exit.

[chef dixon]

How stupid is nick? He is a complete idiot

He's been so overvalued by our fans over the last 3 years.

[msstate7]

AND that alone should be enough for Howland's exit.

What? Guess howland drew up that stupidity.

[KOdawg1]

Mental weakness strikes again.

I'm telling you guys. We have a dumb basketball team

[msu15]

This sucks. Knew this game was gonna be tough

It's tough because of how inept we are as a basketball team.

[msstate7]

Addition by subtraction there.

[HoopsDawg]

NIT, here we come. We earned it.

To give up 80+ to this A&M team is beyond awful.

[R2Dawg]

The A&M announcers have got to be the worst I've ever heard.

Boy you got that right. They are almost cheering for TAMU.

[Joebob]

half full, we're going to be a high seed in the NIT.

Yep.

By the way, where are all the Howland apologists today? They’re never here for the games.

[msstate7]

Why perry?

[R2Dawg]

Clock operator running clock off when ball is dead. That is twice today the clock operator has given TAMU the favor; other time right before half. Just added the 3 seconds back.

[KOdawg1]

And today shows why I've never fully invested into this team. Call me a bad fan if you want, but every time we notch a good win and gain some momentum, we come out with a game like today and have a let-down. They have unbelievable talent, and we win a lot due to that, but our basketball IQ is extremely low and we have stretches where effort and toughness is non-existent.

If we win out and make the tourney, great. If we go to the NIT, that's fine too. I really don't care anymore.

[HoopsDawg]

Lol at Perry for not kicking that ball out. You do you Perry.

[msstate7]

Lol at Perry for not kicking that ball out. You do you Perry.

Will he go even as a projected 2nd rounder? With us not likely to make the tourney, I don't think he can work his way into the 1st round

[MaroonFlounder]

If we swapped coaches, Buzz would have this MSU team a 4 or 5-seed in the big tournament.

[Cloak]

Perry could not have played worse

[Joebob]

And today shows why I've never fully invested into this team. Call me a bad fan if you want, but every time we notch a good win and gain some momentum, we come out with a game like today and have a let-down. They have unbelievable talent, and we win a lot due to that, but our basketball IQ is extremely low and we have stretches where effort and toughness is non-existent.

If we win out and make the tourney, great. If we go to the NIT, that's fine too. I really don't care anymore.

You must be reading my mind.

[msu15]

Trash

[ShotgunDawg]

If we swapped coaches, Buzz would have this MSU team a 4 or 5-seed in the big tournament.

Maybe but Buzz couldn?t have gotten the players Howland has.

The answer isn?t to fire Howland. It?s to get him help

This isn?t a Joe mo situation

[HoopsDawg]

Texas A&M 339th in the country in scoring offense. Average 61 a game. That's bad strategy from Howland but also really poor effort from our players.

[MaroonFlounder]

Maybe but Buzz couldn?t have gotten the players Howland has.

The answer isn?t to fire Howland. It?s to get him help

This isn?t a Joe mo situation

I've already said coach brooks is a lazy fat ass

[ShotgunDawg]

I've already said coach brooks is a lazy fat ass

We definitely need an influx of new ideas

[Joebob]

Maybe but Buzz couldn?t have gotten the players Howland has.

The answer isn?t to fire Howland. It?s to get him help

This isn?t a Joe mo situation

I don’t know if that’s realistic or not, but it’s a thought I guess. We seem to play pretty good defense, but our offense and decision making is just God awful.

[msstate7]

Maybe but Buzz couldn?t have gotten the players Howland has.

The answer isn?t to fire Howland. It?s to get him help

This isn?t a Joe mo situation

Exactly. Firing howland for making the NIT after losing 3 starters is so dumb it could only be dreamed up on a message board. Thank God that our AD isn't as inept mentally as the average miss state message board poster. Cohen needs to tell howland I'm giving you a big boost for assistants... go get you some upgrades

[State82]

Another prime example of why the Hump is typically 50 percent vacant. And the Dude has the largest early season non-conference crowd I've ever seen.

[msstate7]

Texas A&M 339th in the country in scoring offense. Average 61 a game. That's bad strategy from Howland but also really poor effort from our players.

We caught them at the worst time possible. They've now threw a stick of dynamite on 2 bubble teams the last 2 games. 11 3s at Bama and 9 vs us... tourney teams have to beat aTm, but it does suck we got them at their best

[HoopsDawg]

Texas A&M 339th in the country in scoring offense. Average 61 a game. That's bad strategy from Howland but also really poor effort from our players.

87 points, wow. I mean there are only 10 teams in the country that score fewer points that A&M. Our defensive rotations were horrible, our effort was poor, and of course Howland doesn't have a plan B if the man to man isn't working.

[Joebob]

Exactly. Firing howland for making the NIT after losing 3 starters is so dumb it could only be dreamed up on a message board. Thank God that our AD isn't as inept mentally as the average miss state message board poster. Cohen needs to tell howland I'm giving you a big boost for assistants... go get you some upgrades

But that?s letting Howland off the hook. He?s still the one to blame for this mess. And it never gets any better.

[HoopsDawg]

Maybe but Buzz couldn?t have gotten the players Howland has.

The answer isn?t to fire Howland. It?s to get him help

This isn?t a Joe mo situation

It's ok to criticize Howland without wanting him fired. Geez, Flounder didn't say fire him.

[msstate7]

It's ok to criticize Howland without wanting him fired. Geez, Flounder didn't say fire him.

There are several here that are though

[HoopsDawg]

Will he go even as a projected 2nd rounder? With us not likely to make the tourney, I don't think he can work his way into the 1st round

The word is that he's leaving no matter what. I can't see him sticking in the NBA, but he can make some money playing overseas.

[RLM38654]

Maybe but Buzz couldn?t have gotten the players Howland has.

The answer isn?t to fire Howland. It?s to get him help

This isn?t a Joe mo situation

Depends what You want. the glass half full or half empty. Underachieve with 4 and 5 Star players and win 21 games or overachieve with 2 and 3 star players and win 21 games.

[HoopsDawg]

There are several here that are though

Well they are idiots.

[msu15]

The word is that he's leaving no matter what. I can't see him sticking in the NBA, but he can make some money playing overseas.

Yea he's definitely gone

[Joebob]

It's ok to criticize Howland without wanting him fired. Geez, Flounder didn't say fire him.

But if you don?t want him fired, then that?s saying you?re ok with this crap forever, because if he hasn?t?t figured out how to make this team better after five years, he?s not going to.

[msstate7]

Well they are idiots.

Amen. Complete idiots

[msstate7]

Yea he's definitely gone

This sucks. Perry could be an outstanding college basketball player next season, but he will struggle to make an nba roster as a 2nd round pick.

[KOdawg1]

There are several here that are though

I don't think firing Howland is the answer. I just don't care. Which is a problem. But it's hard for me to become invested in this team.

[Madisonmd]

Just wonder if Perry's mental approach to the game will hold him back? Does not always play hard and to his strengths.

[Duckdog]

Fire lemonis!

[msstate7]

I don't think firing Howland is the answer. I just don't care. Which is a problem. But it's hard for me to become invested in this team.

I'm disappointed that we appear to be headed to the NIT, but I do realize it will be extremely difficult to be an NCAA team year-in, year-out.

[KOdawg1]

I'm disappointed that we appear to be headed to the NIT, but I do realize it will be extremely difficult to be an NCAA team year-in, year-out.

It is difficult, but when you return a strong core of legacy players with great talent who helped carry you to the tournament the previous year, it causes extra disappointment

[Joebob]

I don't think firing Howland is the answer. I just don't care. Which is a problem. But it's hard for me to become invested in this team.

I can’t get invested in this team because the head coach is the problem.

If any of you old timers want to see what a difference a real coach can make, think back to the last team that Kermit Davis Sr. had in ‘76-‘77. Tremendous talent, but he did nothing with it and it got him fired. The next year Ron Greene came in and turned the exact same team into 2nd in the SEC to national champ Kentucky. Coaching makes a difference.

[dantheman4248]

There are several here that are though

Bigger idiots than the head in sand fools who don't think there's anything wrong and can't grasp why people don't support this team compared to other options.

[HoopsDawg]

Just wonder if Perry's mental approach to the game will hold him back? Does not always play hard and to his strengths.

If Perry is going to make it as a pro, he will have to play the 4. To play the 4, he has to improve his outside shot, his defense, and his decision making. He made a nice jump from fresh to soph. He could make another big jump from soph to junior but that's not the mindset of players these days.

[HoopsDawg]

But if you don?t want him fired, then that?s saying you?re ok with this crap forever, because if he hasn?t?t figured out how to make this team better after five years, he?s not going to.

What do you mean this team isn't better after 5 years? Rick Ray was basically the death penalty for our program. We made the NIT in year 3 and the NCAA in year 4.

[Joebob]

What do you mean this team isn't better after 5 years? Rick Ray was basically the death penalty for our program. We made the NIT in year 3 and the NCAA in year 4.

You missed my point. It was that this Howland team is no different than his first team. Same mistakes, same poor decision making, same everything. Every Howland team is like Ground Hog day.

[HoopsDawg]

You missed my point. It was that this Howland team is no different than his first team. Same mistakes, same poor decision making, same everything. Every Howland team is like Ground Hog day.

It could be better, but it could be a hell of a lot worse. Tough to defend Howland after that shit show today, but the best thing for the program is to support him. He's not getting fired.

[maroonmania]

I'm just sort of apathetic about Howland. He at least has us to being a competitive product within the conference and no longer an embarrassment and we've seen that we can do way, way worse (i.e. Rick Ray). But I don't feel we will ever do anything to get excited about under Howland and won't sniff the NCAAs most years. But we really don't support basketball like we should at MSU so maybe we don't deserve any better than what Howland can give us here on the back end of his career.

[R2Dawg]

If Perry is going to make it as a pro, he will have to play the 4. To play the 4, he has to improve his outside shot, his defense, and his decision making. He made a nice jump from fresh to soph. He could make another big jump from soph to junior but that's not the mindset of players these days.

Agree with this. He could help himself if he came back. Ado still here so he could stay at 4 too.