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RocketDawg
02-15-2020, 01:06 PM
Not the best start we've ever had, but they haven't scored after the first few seconds. We got it back to 5-4 now.

msstate7
02-15-2020, 01:09 PM
They still can't handle perry. If we lose, it'll be bc we can't protect the ball

parabrave
02-15-2020, 01:10 PM
Well thats how your break the 131 zone. Drive to the fing basket. Esp with Perry.

msstate7
02-15-2020, 01:14 PM
Our backup big men are useless. Just go 4 guards

RocketDawg
02-15-2020, 01:20 PM
Yeah, we've gotten things back in control a bit now. No guarantee it'll last, but they're playing well at the moment. Other than that travel that was just called ....

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 01:20 PM
Well thats how your break the 131 zone. Drive to the fing basket. Esp with Perry.

Ark not playing zone. Man to man full court press with run and jump double team near half court. We are handling it correctly so far.

NCDawg
02-15-2020, 01:20 PM
Nice to see the team wearing the school colors for a change.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 01:23 PM
Molinar...Finally! I've been screaming for it for weeks!!

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 01:23 PM
Our backup big men are useless. Just go 4 guards

Onduro usually gives some good minutes.

RocketDawg
02-15-2020, 01:24 PM
Nice to see the team wearing the school colors for a change.

Notice they're not faded from washing. Never have been used .... **

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 01:24 PM
Tyson, that's not a good shot. Take him out...good job Ben he did.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 01:24 PM
Molinar...Finally! I've been screaming for it for weeks!!

Molinar can flat play. Him and Stewart will make SEC best backcourt in a couple years.

msugolf
02-15-2020, 01:28 PM
Molinar...Finally! I've been screaming for it for weeks!!

Same here. Howland's misuse of the bench and Molinar has been criminal. Molinar is our best shooter IMO.

parabrave
02-15-2020, 01:33 PM
So far we are shooting 65%.

RLM38654
02-15-2020, 01:40 PM
So far we are shooting 65%.

And only up 3.

msugolf
02-15-2020, 01:40 PM
Nick is really really struggling right now. Bad shots, bad passes and angles, not controlling the offense very well. Molinar needs to be the starting point.

msstate7
02-15-2020, 01:43 PM
1:2 assists to TO radio sigh

KOdawg1
02-15-2020, 01:44 PM
It's like we have stretches where we can't help but be wreckless with the ball. It's amazing how low our basketball IQ is sometimes

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 01:44 PM
Well we got crap call on that out of bounds call.

KOdawg1
02-15-2020, 01:46 PM
Nick W is awful lately.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 01:48 PM
We are getting fouled like crazy and refs won't call it

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 01:49 PM
That is how you finish at the half.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 01:49 PM
That's how you finish a half.

msugolf
02-15-2020, 01:50 PM
I so would've loved to have seen what this team could've been if we had been an up tempo, run and gun team that incorporated switching defenses and traps

OLJWales
02-15-2020, 01:51 PM
R2 & hoops on the same page.

Cowbell
02-15-2020, 01:51 PM
I so would've loved to have seen what this team could've been if we had been an up tempo, run and gun team that incorporated switching defenses and traps

Same here. Glimpses today and it's nice.

dantheman4248
02-15-2020, 01:51 PM
Might have been the best half of basketball i've seen them play from a pure effort and offensive creativity standpoint this season. This should end in a double digit win. Mason killed us the first half and had 3 and-1 makes. Gotta shut him down and this is a win.

RLM38654
02-15-2020, 01:52 PM
They haven't finished a half like that all season.

parabrave
02-15-2020, 01:52 PM
Thats a way to finish a half. That Jones is about to Tyree us. CRW mentioned something earlier in the game; drive at him and get him to foul out.

msstate7
02-15-2020, 01:52 PM
20 mins away from a huge win. Get it done, dawgs

parabrave
02-15-2020, 01:56 PM
Nick W is awful lately.

Neal said that Nick must be sick. He saw him on the bench looking woosy. Well Howland said he was going to get Molinar more playing time and guess Molinar is making a case for more playing time.

RLM38654
02-15-2020, 02:01 PM
20 mins away from a huge win. Get it done, dawgs

Gotta play a complete game and finish. Haven't done that in a while.

KOdawg1
02-15-2020, 02:07 PM
Kinda OT, but listening on the radio makes me appreciate what a good radio guy we have in Neal Price. It's hard to call basketball games on the radio, but he does a great job.

Thick
02-15-2020, 02:14 PM
No doubt, Neal is as solid as they come calling b-ball.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:16 PM
DJ can flat out ball; his length is a problem on both ends.

parabrave
02-15-2020, 02:19 PM
Kinda OT, but listening on the radio makes me appreciate what a good radio guy we have in Neal Price. It's hard to call basketball games on the radio, but he does a great job.

Neal and RW do a great job together.

Cowbell
02-15-2020, 02:23 PM
Kinda OT, but listening on the radio makes me appreciate what a good radio guy we have in Neal Price. It's hard to call basketball games on the radio, but he does a great job.
Firmly agree. Many don't appreciate him!

parabrave
02-15-2020, 02:23 PM
Good time for a T/O.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:23 PM
Nick and Carter with some careless turnovers and we are letting Arky back in it.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:23 PM
Our guard play is the weak link on this team. Carter and Spoon make way too many bad plays.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:25 PM
I guess we are going to let them go on a 10-0 run without calling a timeout.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:25 PM
In 1 minute, we allowed them to score 11 unanswered. Good job on no timeout.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:26 PM
Alright, dribble into pressure 3 times on one possession. 4 guys covering 2, kick it out. Shit.

MedDawg
02-15-2020, 02:26 PM
Should have been a foul called on Arkansas before that tie ball. Their guy had his knee out, tripped our guy and knocked him down. Would have been Bailey's (Ark's second leading scorer this game) third foul.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:27 PM
And here comes the meltdown. We seem incapable of sustaining anything.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:28 PM
Down to a 6 pt lead. From 17. No timeout. Lets let them cut it to 3 and then call a timeout.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:29 PM
another unforced turnover. Damn!!!

parabrave
02-15-2020, 02:29 PM
Dam

Irondawg
02-15-2020, 02:30 PM
It’s that we let teams go on these big runs really quick and instead of slowing down for a good shot we panic every time and start taking awful shots

OLJWales
02-15-2020, 02:30 PM
Sports God giveth and taketh away. Piggy doing to us what our ladies did to A&M.

RLM38654
02-15-2020, 02:30 PM
And here comes the meltdown. We seem incapable of sustaining anything.

It is unbelievable. Got Lackadaisical up 17 and here we are again.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:30 PM
And this is why no one gives a shit. We literally cannot play like a winner. Regardless how this game ends, I have doubts if they can actually hold and extend this league.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:31 PM
4 turnovers for Nick in only 18 minutes. Let Stewart play some point forward.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:31 PM
I love basketball, but we do not have what it takes.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:32 PM
4 turnovers for Nick in only 18 minutes. Let Stewart play some point forward.

We need Nick's defense, but we also need someone to step up and hit some shots. Penetrate and kick. Lets go.

parabrave
02-15-2020, 02:32 PM
Dam nick.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:33 PM
And with Nick on the bench, game over.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:34 PM
Perry pouting b/c he didn't get a touch. Awful

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:35 PM
Carter. Nice two plays.

KOdawg1
02-15-2020, 02:37 PM
I'm actively rooting for Nick to foul out bc he's so destructive. We might as well call him Lamar Peters

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:38 PM
That was a 2 by Jones wasn't it??

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:38 PM
Double team at half court, rest of team 4 on 3 and no one comes to the ball for the easy score?

Cloak
02-15-2020, 02:38 PM
Edit: Yup they just changed it back to a 2

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:38 PM
That was a 2 by Jones wasn't it??

They change it.

Irondawg
02-15-2020, 02:40 PM
Mason Jones doesn’t plan on missing this half

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:40 PM
Carter has been clutch on his shot

msstate7
02-15-2020, 02:41 PM
Who was arguing with me after vandy game that assists to TO doesn't matter? Clown whoever he was

KOdawg1
02-15-2020, 02:41 PM
We fought off their last run. They've got one more in them. Stay focused and tough.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:41 PM
Carter has definitely been huge today.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:42 PM
Time to start Carter and bring Spoon off bench. Spoon has lost it lately.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:42 PM
Carter says 17 you Buckethead.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:43 PM
Must win game today, need to finish.

KOdawg1
02-15-2020, 02:44 PM
Time to start Carter and bring Spoon off bench. Spoon has lost it lately.

Yep

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:47 PM
Jones stepped on the baseline when he drove the basket.

KOdawg1
02-15-2020, 02:48 PM
Why the 17 is Nick in there?

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:48 PM
Please take Spoon out, Molinar.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:48 PM
Ben, what are you watching? Sit Nick out!!!! Everyone can see it.

BayouDawg
02-15-2020, 02:48 PM
Woodard needs to practice free throws

NCDawg
02-15-2020, 02:48 PM
Choking on free-throws. Guess the crowd makes us nervous.

Cooterpoot
02-15-2020, 02:49 PM
Spoon plays out of control. Howland allows it.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:49 PM
They are giving Ark the charge all day when they have not been there.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:49 PM
Why does nick not elevate and shoot at the elbow? Another turnover.

BayouDawg
02-15-2020, 02:49 PM
Nick is killing us the second half

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:49 PM
What a flop. And the official bought it. Tyson couldn't knock down a fly.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:50 PM
4 pt game. Wow. 17n imploding with stupid 17n flop.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:50 PM
We better get it together are we are going to piss away our tourney hopes. Ark ahead of us is a joke so sweeping them is important that we replace them on bubble.

BayouDawg
02-15-2020, 02:50 PM
That was a flop

RougeDawg
02-15-2020, 02:51 PM
Last sloppy stretch of play erased a 17 point lead again. Same old shit.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:51 PM
If that dude had his back to Carter, and give carter a 10 ft running start he couldn't move that guy like that.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:51 PM
Nick is killing us the second half

Amazing that Howland didn't take him out vs Ole Miss and crazy that he keeps playing him today. It may cost us the NCAA tournament.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:52 PM
We better get it together are we are going to piss away our tourney hopes. Ark ahead of us is a joke so sweeping them is important that we replace them on bubble.

Dude, tourney hopes ended the second we got fist 17d by UM last week.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:53 PM
Nick back in the game.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:53 PM
We are not getting any calls down the stretch; we must win outright.

BayouDawg
02-15-2020, 02:54 PM
Amazing that Howland didn't take him out vs Ole Miss and crazy that he keeps playing him today. It may cost us the NCAA tournament.

Yep Molinar plays much more under control. Molinar defense is still a liability though

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:54 PM
2 pt game. Perry not in position on an out of bounds play.

parabrave
02-15-2020, 02:54 PM
last 5 mins have been craptastic. We haven't tried to get the ball to Perry.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:54 PM
Got to get Jones out of this game. Like now.

Irondawg
02-15-2020, 02:55 PM
We are about to give up 40 points to a guard in back to back games

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:56 PM
That is not a tie up. Wow. One sided calls.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:56 PM
No way that was a tie up.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:57 PM
He 17n dragged him down by his arm.

RougeDawg
02-15-2020, 02:57 PM
How is that a jump ball?

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 02:57 PM
We are about to give up 40 points to a guard in back to back games

Horrible defensive strategy against Tyree and Jones.

RougeDawg
02-15-2020, 02:57 PM
Well the usual melt is happening. Our goose is cooked. Hello NIT.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:58 PM
The SEC is going to need to answer on that one.

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:58 PM
That is not a tie up. Wow. One sided calls.

Told you we were going to get screwed by refs down the stretch.

BayouDawg
02-15-2020, 02:58 PM
We are about to give up 40 points to a guard in back to back games

Can?t stop a dribble drive to save our lives. Going to a zone from time to time could help but Howland refuses to do it

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 02:59 PM
Tie game. 17n embarrassing

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 02:59 PM
Spoon is a mental case out there.

dantheman4248
02-15-2020, 02:59 PM
How do you follow up an awful call you got to rewatch your **** up and then come back and penalize the same team with a bs tic tac call.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 03:00 PM
Just a complete meltdown. Hello NIT.

Cloak
02-15-2020, 03:00 PM
Edit : delete for now

MarketingBully
02-15-2020, 03:00 PM
Delete - too emotional and dumb a post...

maroonmania
02-15-2020, 03:00 PM
Well the usual melt is happening. Our goose is cooked. Hello NIT.

This basketball team is so hard to even watch. They can't hit any shots in clutch time on the road. Woodard and Carter both miss wide open shots.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 03:00 PM
And now we call a 17n timeout. Stupid. That was our last.

BayouDawg
02-15-2020, 03:01 PM
Blowing a 17 point lead in the second half. This team and coaching staff just aint got it mentally

MarketingBully
02-15-2020, 03:01 PM
Spoon is a mental case out there.

Delete - Spoon played bad but Carter?s game overcame it.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 03:01 PM
Just a complete meltdown. Hello NIT.

We haven't made the NIT yet.

maroonmania
02-15-2020, 03:01 PM
This team is trash. Howland needs to go!!!

Yep, no lead is ever safe for this team because at any time they can go into a stretch where they are awful.

BayouDawg
02-15-2020, 03:03 PM
I just dont understand how a team this talented is so bad at defending dribble drives

R2Dawg
02-15-2020, 03:03 PM
Boy if you look at Jones they call a foul

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 03:04 PM
That was a god damn push off by Jones. WTF.

bobtail bob
02-15-2020, 03:05 PM
Brick city

parabrave
02-15-2020, 03:05 PM
Well gonna have to count on carter to make a Fg. Thank you ADO.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 03:05 PM
Hell yes!!! Thank you for attacking the basket and great follow by Ado!!!

Alphadog
02-15-2020, 03:05 PM
Boy if you look at Jones they call a foul

There is no way any one player not named Shaq should have this many free throw attempts

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 03:06 PM
Put Ado on the inbounds passer. Don't give them a free pass.

RougeDawg
02-15-2020, 03:06 PM
Jones gets the foul call every drive no matter what.

KOdawg1
02-15-2020, 03:07 PM
WOW

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 03:07 PM
Whew. First close win of the year. Still got some life. Great game by Carter. Overcame a bad game from Woodard and Nick.

Lord McBuckethead
02-15-2020, 03:07 PM
Yep. Put Ado and Perry on the inbounder. Do not even get in someons face.

maroonmania
02-15-2020, 03:07 PM
Good to see this team can ACTUALLY win a close one! Boy, this team is hard to watch though.

parabrave
02-15-2020, 03:07 PM
ADO being in the right place at the right time.

Cloak
02-15-2020, 03:07 PM
Holllllly Shit

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 03:08 PM
Quad 1 win.

Percho
02-15-2020, 03:08 PM
Jones gets the foul call every drive no matter what.

He went to the line at least 6 times on non fouls.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 03:09 PM
I just dont understand how a team this talented is so bad at defending dribble drives

That's an outstanding question.

MarketingBully
02-15-2020, 03:10 PM
Great win but ugly as hell finish. We need Spoon to get the heck out of whatever funk the dude is in. He is killing us.

HoopsDawg
02-15-2020, 03:10 PM
Interesting comments from Fishback on SEC now, said a couple of mentors of his have said we are better with Tyson at the PG.

Joebob
02-15-2020, 03:12 PM
Well, nice win, but this changes nothing. Tyson tried to do the right things on that last play but still ended up taking a bad, off balance shot. It took a great tip in by Ado to keep us from losing another one.

msstate7
02-15-2020, 03:12 PM
Huge win.

NCDawg
02-15-2020, 03:13 PM
We do have a lot of talent on this team. I would like to see Molinar play more.

dantheman4248
02-15-2020, 03:13 PM
Interesting comments from Fishback on SEC now, said a couple of mentors of his have said we are better with Tyson at the PG.

Wouldn't be shocked to see our plus minus with nick today was dogass. He came back in after we were still holding serve and then the dam broke and they took the lead on 13-2 run. Nick is good 1-on-1 but he's not a team point guard.

maroonmania
02-15-2020, 03:14 PM
Huge win.

Yep, just so irritating that even with a big win the team won't let you enjoy due to blowing a huge second half lead. Very, very frustrating team due to what they have the potential to be versus what they are.

dawgday166
02-15-2020, 03:15 PM
Interesting comments from Fishback on SEC now, said a couple of mentors of his have said we are better with Tyson at the PG.

I've thought for some time the team chemistry became unbalanced, out of whack, or whatever since Spoon came back. I definitely don't think he should've been inserted immediately into starting lineup.

I thought we got past that against FL & TN when Spoon was distributing ball. But it seems off again. He started listening to the praise from the press and message boards I guess.

Joebob
02-15-2020, 03:16 PM
Interesting comments from Fishback on SEC now, said a couple of mentors of his have said we are better with Tyson at the PG.


And sadly, there is some truth to that. Tyson is NOT a point guard, but we don’t really have anybody that is. It’s probably my biggest complaint about Howland. He never recruits a true point guard. I’ve finally figured out that the reason is that he wouldn’t know what to do with one if he had one.

dawgday166
02-15-2020, 03:17 PM
Huge win.

The upbeat, positive one. You're such a sunshine pumper ****

BayouDawg
02-15-2020, 03:19 PM
Great win due to hustle by Ado. But we have to stop blowing these double digit leads.

OLJWales
02-15-2020, 03:27 PM
I had to work and forgot to record the game. Are there any internet tricks I could use to catch the last 3 minutes of the game? I'll go try ESPN3 to see. if there are any other options anyone knows of, please share. thanks

cheewgumm
02-15-2020, 03:58 PM
Musselman must be from the Howland school - refusal to play zone. This is why this win is false hope. Next team that will play zone against is will beat us.

Ole Miss about to win at Rupp for one reason - they?ll play zone.

We simply watched Kentucky post up and score in the paint and just took the L.

maroonmania
02-15-2020, 04:05 PM
Musselman must be from the Howland school - refusal to play zone. This is why this win is false hope. Next team that will play zone against is will beat us.

Ole Miss about to win at Rupp for one reason - they?ll play zone.

We simply watched Kentucky post up and score in the paint and just took the L.

Yep, Howland makes it pretty simple on teams to prepare for us because his defense never changes. Even Vic has finally yielded to playing some zone at times.

dantheman4248
02-15-2020, 04:08 PM
And sadly, there is some truth to that. Tyson is NOT a point guard, but we don’t really have anybody that is. It’s probably my biggest complaint about Howland. He never recruits a true point guard. I’ve finally figured out that the reason is that he wouldn’t know what to do with one if he had one.

He had Westbrook on his roster for 2 of his 3 straight final 4 appearances. (Westbrook came off the bench the first one and started the second year.)

Eric Nies Grind Time
02-15-2020, 04:10 PM
Ole Miss lost to Kentucky...

cheewgumm
02-15-2020, 04:11 PM
They lost....barely. If they has played man they would have lost by 25.

msstate7
02-15-2020, 04:14 PM
Musselman must be from the Howland school - refusal to play zone. This is why this win is false hope. Next team that will play zone against is will beat us.

Ole Miss about to win at Rupp for one reason - they?ll play zone.

We simply watched Kentucky post up and score in the paint and just took the L.

STFU! We beat a team playing for their tourney lives just like us. This was a good win

maroonmania
02-15-2020, 04:17 PM
Ole Miss lost to Kentucky...

They will still be a handful for us even in Starkville.

RLM38654
02-15-2020, 04:18 PM
Arky fans are losing it. Dang bra....

I have never wanted us to brawl before but (Thread Headling)

Man did I want it today. Just so tired of cheater Howland and his batch of low life cheaters at Moo Stink U.

So proud of this team and their efforts. Just won’t win without playing perfectly and that’s next to impossible for this team.

Hate the losing for them.

If you think you could coach better you are an idiot. I’m not sure we have enough talent coming in for next year. Maybe if either Jones or Joe stay, but just really need an infusion of some new blood. Not really sold on much help coming off that bench going forward.

Hate losing to these LSU and MSU cheaters. Wish NBA would just let the kids back in so college play would be college again.

https://forums.hogville.net/index.php?topic=709513.0

maroonmania
02-15-2020, 04:21 PM
Arky fans are losing it. Dang bra....

I have never wanted us to brawl before but (Thread Headling)

Man did I want it today. Just so tired of cheater Howland and his batch of low life cheaters at Moo Stink U.

So proud of this team and their efforts. Just won’t win without playing perfectly and that’s next to impossible for this team.

Hate the losing for them.

If you think you could coach better you are an idiot. I’m not sure we have enough talent coming in for next year. Maybe if either Jones or Joe stay, but just really need an infusion of some new blood. Not really sold on much help coming off that bench going forward.

Hate losing to these LSU and MSU cheaters. Wish NBA would just let the kids back in so college play would be college again.

https://forums.hogville.net/index.php?topic=709513.0

They are still pretty butthurt over losing Perry to us. Apparently we had to 'cheat' to get a legacy to come play for us.

OLJWales
02-15-2020, 04:23 PM
Musselman must be from the Howland school - refusal to play zone. This is why this win is false hope. Next team that will play zone against is will beat us.

Ole Miss about to win at Rupp for one reason - they?ll play zone.

We simply watched Kentucky post up and score in the paint and just took the L.

At the end of the day, we just got a road win against a conference opponent with a higher NET than we did / do.

Ole Miss lost.

I will admit though, after the Oxfart debacle, I'm gonna need another quality win or 2 to regain confidence.

Ari Gold
02-15-2020, 04:27 PM
They lost....barely. If they has played man they would have lost by 25.

There are 2 facts that are barley for sure
1. We are barely out of the big dance right now
2. OM barely has a .500 record

RougeDawg
02-15-2020, 04:31 PM
He went to the line at least 6 times on non fouls.

Yea. At the end of the game the refs were blowing the whistle as soon as he went up for a shot. A few times we weren?t even close enough to smell him. Reminds me of that girl from South Carolina a couple years ago. Every time she went up a foul was called, no matter what.

Announcers were talking about how many and-1s Jones gets. Would be interesting to see what officiating crews are working and how many he has with each crew. Has to be some evidentiary trends.

The jump ball call on Carter was about a bad of a call as you?ll see. Ark player never even touched the ball until after the whistle and both were on the ground.

Eta. Not complaining about officiating. Just pointing out facts. It should not have come down to that. The lazy, sloppy stretch we had about 9 min left, let Arkansas back in the game. Slow passes from carter, uncontrolled dribbling and flat out laziness contributed to 3-4 turnovers that erased the 17 pt lead. Most were with Nick W in the game.

Someone please do a +/- with Nick in and out of the game and send to Howland.

LC Dawg
02-15-2020, 04:46 PM
That was a big win. You always expect the home team to make a run even from down 17 but you hope they can't maintain it enough to even it up or take the lead. We let their pressure affect us too much but to our guys credit they kept fighting until the end even with some pretty questionable calls for Arkansas. It's concerning how fast Nick has regressed after starting to play so well. Hopefully he gets back on track at home Wednesday.

Ari Gold
02-15-2020, 05:18 PM
That was a big win. You always expect the home team to make a run even from down 17 but you hope they can't maintain it enough to even it up or take the lead. We let their pressure affect us too much but to our guys credit they kept fighting until the end even with some pretty questionable calls for Arkansas. It's concerning how fast Nick has regressed after starting to play so well. Hopefully he gets back on track at home Wednesday.

Yeah Nick didn’t play that well again today, but he had a great first half
Still went for
10 points on 5-9
2 blocks
1 steal
3 dimes

The 5 TO weren’t good at all and he was in foul trouble.. but the one thing Nick gives ya is ultimate effort.. and he still is a plus defender

Ari Gold
02-15-2020, 05:20 PM
Bottom line going into these 2 road games was we had to get one win.. we did.
Now take care of the Cocks on Wednesday and win at College station, which won’t be easy , on Sat and we are sitting in pretty good shape..

RocketDawg
02-15-2020, 08:01 PM
I had to watch most of the game on my recording - thought we'd blown the game after being up 17 but they hung in there. That was a really nice Quad 1 win. I wasn't sure if they'd just fold up shop after getting trounced by OM but they didn't.

msstate7
02-15-2020, 08:30 PM
Sec road teams are 1-5 today with vandy likely to make it 1-6, but some here want to crap on a quad 1 win. Smh

Ari Gold
02-15-2020, 09:03 PM
Sec road teams are 1-5 today with vandy likely to make it 1-6, but some here want to crap on a quad 1 win. Smh

That’s a walk off post.. well done

BeardoMSU
02-15-2020, 09:06 PM
Sec road teams are 1-5 today with vandy likely to make it 1-6, but some here want to crap on a quad 1 win. Smh

/thread

basedog
02-15-2020, 10:15 PM
Sec road teams are 1-5 today with vandy likely to make it 1-6, but some here want to crap on a quad 1 win. Smh

+1

MarketingBully
02-16-2020, 06:55 AM
Bottom line going into these 2 road games was we had to get one win.. we did.
Now take care of the Cocks on Wednesday and win at College station, which won’t be easy , on Sat and we are sitting in pretty good shape..

Gotta have that same mentality we had when we ripped off five straight in SEC play. Can?t drop any games from here on out. South Carolina and Alabama are fighting for a bid as well. We should go 2-1 against them the rest of the way (need to win both games at home) and if all we drop is the game at SC we should be in great shape to make the tournament. 12-6 in the SEC should get us in. Have to win the games we are supposed to win. Need Nick to play like he did during that five game winning streak where he was 24 assists to 3 turnovers. These last two games he?s killed us. If we make the tourney, I?m off the replace Howland train. I?m not expecting much next year depending on who we lose but not going to the tourney with the talent he has this year is laughable.

MarketingBully
02-16-2020, 07:04 AM
Sec road teams are 1-5 today with vandy likely to make it 1-6, but some here want to crap on a quad 1 win. Smh

We were put in this position because we lost games like La Tech and NMSU early. Need wins that would nullify those losses. We?d have some wiggle room had we won those games. Simple as that.

basedog
02-16-2020, 09:02 AM
Gotta have that same mentality we had when we ripped off five straight in SEC play. Can?t drop any games from here on out. South Carolina and Alabama are fighting for a bid as well. We should go 2-1 against them the rest of the way (need to win both games at home) and if all we drop is the game at SC we should be in great shape to make the tournament. 12-6 in the SEC should get us in. Have to win the games we are supposed to win. Need Nick to play like he did during that five game winning streak where he was 24 assists to 3 turnovers. These last two games he?s killed us. If we make the tourney, I?m off the replace Howland train. I?m not expecting much next year depending on who we lose but not going to the tourney with the talent he has this year is laughable.

Just to add to "with the talent he has this year is laughable". Yes we have talent, but sometimes not all of the cylinders click, like chemistry which is one third of being a good or bad team. Not saying it's bad but with one senior on the team sometimes it doesn't always work all the time. I see the lack of a true leader on the floor as the missing link to what I'm saying. Perry has stepped up in a big way and IF he comes back I can see much better overall chemistry with this team.

For you guys wanted Howland gone and you could bring an ex Msu Coach back who would you choose? It's only a few such as Babe, Davis (Losing record), Greene (one year), Boyd (who did nothing), Hatfield (big cheater and arrogant who once I had a run in over a Ms recruiter, one day I will share my story), Williams (who actually helped our program and had a few really good years), Stansbury (you can decide, I liked him but Sidney cost him his job), Ray ( we know) and now Howland.

dantheman4248
02-16-2020, 10:36 AM
Sec road teams are 1-5 today with vandy likely to make it 1-6, but some here want to crap on a quad 1 win. Smh

I don't think anyone's crapping on the magnitude of this win. Most in here are pointing out that it should have been a blowout. The thing about the NET rating is it loves 10+ pt wins. Change that to a 10+ pt win and we actually move up in those rankings.

Everyone rightly noticed the last 5 minutes of our game (or as soon as nick came back in) we stagnated and quit doing what was working. We finally had some life on the offensive end and when it came crunch decided against it. Almost cost us but Abdul got a lucky tip in. Still lessons to be learned. Play 40 minutes like the first half and we are hard to be beat by anyone in the country.

basedog
02-16-2020, 10:51 AM
Last 5 minutes of the game we played way too much one on one, this goes back to not having a true point guard taking control. This is when motion offense needs to take control which is pass and screen with lots of movement making the defense work, floor space on offense is real important.

OLJWales
02-16-2020, 11:02 AM
So is AR still trying to get in with a 4-8 SEC record? If so, is it solely based on beating GA Tech & Indiana?

MarketingBully
02-16-2020, 11:42 AM
Just to add to "with the talent he has this year is laughable". Yes we have talent, but sometimes not all of the cylinders click, like chemistry which is one third of being a good or bad team. Not saying it's bad but with one senior on the team sometimes it doesn't always work all the time. I see the lack of a true leader on the floor as the missing link to what I'm saying. Perry has stepped up in a big way and IF he comes back I can see much better overall chemistry with this team.

For you guys wanted Howland gone and you could bring an ex Msu Coach back who would you choose? It's only a few such as Babe, Davis (Losing record), Greene (one year), Boyd (who did nothing), Hatfield (big cheater and arrogant who once I had a run in over a Ms recruiter, one day I will share my story), Williams (who actually helped our program and had a few really good years), Stansbury (you can decide, I liked him but Sidney cost him his job), Ray ( we know) and now Howland.

Williams with Stansbury was the best combo we?ve had. Stans to get the talent in here and Williams to coach them up. I think Davis and Pierre would have been a great combo for us had Loafers pulled the trigger there but as C34 said Keenum and Loafers didn?t want to go that way and cratered our program as a result. Davis isn?t a good recruiter so odds are good he?s not going to do any better then Andy K did at OM. He needs a recruiting coach as a bench assistant and we need an Xs and Os guy as an assistant if Howland is going to work in the long run. My guess is hopefully Ziegler finds an HC job and we can bring in a true Xs and Os guy.

MarketingBully
02-16-2020, 11:46 AM
Just to add to "with the talent he has this year is laughable". Yes we have talent, but sometimes not all of the cylinders click, like chemistry which is one third of being a good or bad team. Not saying it's bad but with one senior on the team sometimes it doesn't always work all the time. I see the lack of a true leader on the floor as the missing link to what I'm saying. Perry has stepped up in a big way and IF he comes back I can see much better overall chemistry with this team.

For you guys wanted Howland gone and you could bring an ex Msu Coach back who would you choose? It's only a few such as Babe, Davis (Losing record), Greene (one year), Boyd (who did nothing), Hatfield (big cheater and arrogant who once I had a run in over a Ms recruiter, one day I will share my story), Williams (who actually helped our program and had a few really good years), Stansbury (you can decide, I liked him but Sidney cost him his job), Ray ( we know) and now Howland.

Oh and to add. I agree Sidney was Stans downfall but his program started going downhill when Coach Kirby left. Kirby was the disciplinarian that none of Stans other coaches were. Once he left, there was no one there to be that disciplinarian the team needed especially Sidney who Kirby personally recruited and then left the following season.

WPS
02-17-2020, 10:46 AM
So is AR still trying to get in with a 4-8 SEC record? If so, is it solely based on beating GA Tech & Indiana?

North Texas and Tulsa are also having good seasons in their conferences but without Isaiah Joe we're a shell of the team we were about a month ago. Don't think we have much of a chance at the tournament but after being picked 11th in the SEC the NIT isn't horrible in year one for Musselman.

msstate7
02-17-2020, 10:53 AM
North Texas and Tulsa are also having good seasons in their conferences but without Isaiah Joe we're a shell of the team we were about a month ago. Don't think we have much of a chance at the tournament but after being picked 11th in the SEC the NIT isn't horrible in year one for Musselman.

Only a fool would be unhappy with Musselman so far... decent success so far and outstanding recruiting class

Ari Gold
02-17-2020, 10:57 AM
North Texas and Tulsa are also having good seasons in their conferences but without Isaiah Joe we're a shell of the team we were about a month ago. Don't think we have much of a chance at the tournament but after being picked 11th in the SEC the NIT isn't horrible in year one for Musselman.

Agree. Losing Joe was a huge blow..

And I just checked arky picked as high as 7 ( SI) and most had you guys around 10 or 11 as stated
MSU picked as high as 7 ( espn and sec network) low as 11 , consensus was about 8 or 9

Nice to have a good basketball IQ poster on here.. come back more often