Beating LSU in baseball attendance

[drummerdawg]

Is this something that can be done? The first few years they started recording attendance for baseball games State was leading the country, but after that it's been all LSU. Is the attendance average something we can take back? I would love to see it and us make an effort to at least try. I know we do good compared to the average teams in the country and SBW, Regionals, and a few big games we do better than anybody. We finished 3rd in average attendance last year behind LSU's 10,000+ OM's 8,000+ with a little over 8,000 ourselves. Is there any way we can get about a 2k bump in our average? If so, how? Looking at the games last year, it looks like both LSU and OM sold a good bit more season tickets than we did (idk how that happens in Oxford) and therefor never claimed an attendance lower than that even though State might have had more actually at their games they still were below the other two in tickets sold (which is what everyone counts).

[StarkVegasSteve]

Probably not, Baton Rouge is 10x the population of Starkville and with them LSU is the only show in town. Whereas we have State, OM, and USM all in the same state and all three are baseball powers.

[ShotgunDawg]

LSU is just going to do better in the mid-week and non conference due to the population of Baton Rouge.

People go to LSU baseball like they go to a movie. It's right there.

For MSU fans, it's a planned excursion.

[Cooterpoot]

I'll never understand this attendance competitiveness State fans have. How bout we just beat LSU on the field and win some national titles if we want to be a better program than LSU? Attendance will take care of itself. But it shouldn't be some competition.

[Todd4State]

I guess we can count empty seats as people attended like LSU and Ole Miss do.

[MedDawg]

Is this something that can be done? The first few years they started recording attendance for baseball games State was leading the country, but after that it's been all LSU. Is the attendance average something we can take back? I would love to see it and us make an effort to at least try. I know we do good compared to the average teams in the country and SBW, Regionals, and a few big games we do better than anybody. We finished 3rd in average attendance last year behind LSU's 10,000+ OM's 8,000+ with a little over 8,000 ourselves. Is there any way we can get about a 2k bump in our average? If so, how? Looking at the games last year, it looks like both LSU and OM sold a good bit more season tickets than we did (idk how that happens in Oxford) and therefor never claimed an attendance lower than that even though State might have had more actually at their games they still were below the other two in tickets sold (which is what everyone counts).


It's ALL from season tickets. LSU can have 1,000 people in the seats but gets credit for 10,000+ each game due to selling 10,000+ season tickets.

The only way for State to be #1 is actually an easy one--build 2,000 more chairbacks and sell 2,000 more season tickets. Keep in mind that the entire current stadium seating--chairbacks, club levels, and skyboxes (plus lounge spots) are sold out with season tickets.

I think we likely could sell out all 2,000 new chairbacks, especially with new fan attractions like food trucks we will have this season. We would need to make sure the additional fans would be accommodated with more bathrooms and concessions.

If we took out the 3rd baseline berm and added upper and lower decks on that end and an upper deck above the 1st baseline berm we would have 2,000 more seats. We could add some more skyboxes, too.

We could also add bleachers to right field but make them look built in with the same black metal styling of the grandstands and not the usual shiny aluminum bleachers.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Plus, in February and March BR is about 7 degrees warmer than Starkville. The difference between 42 and 35 is pretty huge for human comfort.

[RocketDawg]

I guess we can count empty seats as people attended like LSU and Ole Miss do.

We apparently we do. Last year there were many times when the expensive seats were virtually empty yet we still published a huge attendance.

It'll probably be that way this weekend too, especially tomorrow. 1:00 game, temp at 40, and windy.

[Todd4State]

We apparently we do. Last year there were many times when the expensive seats were virtually empty yet we still published a huge attendance.

It'll probably be that way this weekend too, especially tomorrow. 1:00 game, temp at 40, and windy.

I'm fine with that since others are doing it.

[TheLostDawg]

Only way to get attendance up is make additional seats that's only available for personal use. When businesses buy them then it's only natural for people only wanting to go to big games. When it's coming out of your own pocket then you're a lot more likely to go so you don't feel you're wasting money. And if you feel like you are not going enough to justify buying the tickets then you give them up and then someone else has the opportunity to purchase them unlike it is now where you'll never get a chance to purchase them until they expand again.

[deadheaddawg]

Win a couple of Natty in a few years span and let's see.

Going on a run of winning a couple may get the excitement high enough.

And having Moorhead still here would have helped. Lord knows I was looking forward to baseball about Oct.

Now with Leach it's baseball time and i can't wait for football lol

[Skydawg1]

We apparently we do. Last year there were many times when the expensive seats were virtually empty yet we still published a huge attendance.

It'll probably be that way this weekend too, especially tomorrow. 1:00 game, temp at 40, and windy.There were also many games last year we were saying "we got 15K in der" and official attendance was 11.2K.

[Skydawg1]

Win a couple of Natty in a few years span and let's see.lDid Vandy leave the SEC?

[dawgman]

Back in the 1980's, for football, LSU counted anyone within a mile of the stadium that was there as a parking attendant, concession worker, usher, security or any other "official" capacity was accounted as attendance. I wonder of this is still the case and now for baseball

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Way back when, OM used to have a guy out in the road by the stadium with his clicker....he'd look in the car as it passed the stadium and see how many people were in the car, then click away to add to their attendance.

Yes, I'm just kidding.

But MedDawg told how it is done above. Season ticket sales is what is reported in "most" games. If LSU sells 10,000 tickets and 4,500 show up, the announced attendance is 10,000.

If 12,000 show up for a game, then 12,000 is announced.

We were practically the last to start doing this. We used to always announce actual attendance no matter how many season tickets we sold. We stopped doing that a few years ago.

So, the only way to pass them in attendance is to sell more season tickets. Another thing is ACTUAL number of home games. This year we play 31 home games. LSU plays 37. There is 6 games x 10,000 season tickets, which equals 60,000 more fans total they can add to their total attendance numbers.

[MedDawg]

Did Vandy leave the SEC?

State won a Super Regional at Vandy just two years ago.

[MedDawg]

Way back when, OM used to have a guy out in the road by the stadium with his clicker....he'd look in the car as it passed the stadium and see how many people were in the car, then click away to add to their attendance.

Yes, I'm just kidding.

But MedDawg told how it is done above. Season ticket sales is what is reported in "most" games. If LSU sells 10,000 tickets and 4,500 show up, the announced attendance is 10,000.

If 12,000 show up for a game, then 12,000 is announced.


That's where State has the advantage. LSU's season ticket/minimum paid attendance is 10,500, but their maximum crowd is 11,000. State can/will have at least a few (maybe several) crowds higher than 11,000. If we built 1,500-2,000 more chairbacks and were still just short of LSU's season ticket/minimum crowd number, we'd pass them in average attendance because our largest 11k-15k crowds would bump up our average.

[fader2103]

I never understood why MSU fans want to beat LSU in attendance numbers in baseball. Every SEC fan knows that these are the two most well represented clubs in the league. Worrying about attendance numbers vs LSU is almost as bad as recruiting rankings for UM

[trojandawg]

It's ALL from season tickets. LSU can have 1,000 people in the seats but gets credit for 10,000+ each game due to selling 10,000+ season tickets.

The only way for State to be #1 is actually an easy one--build 2,000 more chairbacks and sell 2,000 more season tickets. Keep in mind that the entire current stadium seating--chairbacks, club levels, and skyboxes (plus lounge spots) are sold out with season tickets.

I think we likely could sell out all 2,000 new chairbacks, especially with new fan attractions like food trucks we will have this season. We would need to make sure the additional fans would be accommodated with more bathrooms and concessions.

If we took out the 3rd baseline berm and added upper and lower decks on that end and an upper deck above the 1st baseline berm we would have 2,000 more seats. We could add some more skyboxes, too.

We could also add bleachers to right field but make them look built in with the same black metal styling of the grandstands and not the usual shiny aluminum bleachers.

what this guy said. it could easily be done. you would sell out most of the chairbacks if not all. what you didn't sell, you could offer as GA+ seating where you pay more to sit there than normal GA bleachers like 25 or 30 bucks but it's still GA first come first serve on those grandstands. they could do a large number on third baseline sell those as season tickets. add upper deck on first base side as the GA+ seating. it would be out of camera view when you don't sell them. but it bet they would fill up weekends. Then bleachers behind right field. built up behind lounge and colored to fit in.

[Skydawg1]

Today's attendance was 9509. Not a bad start to the season. Tomorrow should be 10+.

[Liverpooldawg]

As has been stated, we don't have the, " hey there is a game today, let's go", type crowd. We can't because of where MSU is. We have to plan it for the most part. The big crowds prove who cares more.

[turkish]

If you scale our relative attendance figures to population/fans within 25, 50 (you pick) miles, we?re blowing them out of the water.

[Offshore Dawg]

This is a bull shit line of thinking, while State was setting attendance records LSU was winning national championships in baseball I think it was 6 championships.

[MedDawg]

This is a bull shit line of thinking, while State was setting attendance records LSU was winning national championships in baseball I think it was 6 championships.

College baseball is getting more national attention and TV exposure now. State is already getting credit for the New Dude and a great atmosphere, but we would get even more with an expanded New New Dude and 2,000 more fans. That would help recruiting.

At some point the NCAA will grant more baseball scholarships or State will find a way to fully fund the scholarships for baseball players, and we will be able to steal recruits from Vandy and LSU based on attendance and stadium atmosphere. Like how Auburn can beat out State for football recruits, even when we were having better seasons.

We need to have every advantage we can get. Getting players drafted and coaching is a big part. When Corbin retires, Vandy may drop like LSU and South Carolina have dropped. Lemonis may be our guy to get players from them.

And as awesome as the New Dude is, it would be even more awesome with 2,000 more fans.