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OLJWales
02-08-2020, 04:19 PM
what would projections look like if we take these 2? I'm thinking both are must wins and we should be favored in both. I'm still worried about Hack's post about how we have to go 8-2 minimum over our last 10. Not up to date on the Dores' bigs but if what I've read about shitbird is true, Perry should go off on those bitches up north.

CadaverDawg
02-08-2020, 04:38 PM
We have got to beat Vandy at home. We will probably lose to Ole Miss at their place, they're actually playing pretty well the last few games, and road games are tough. Our fans will freak out, but I think we lose that game.

Dawgcap
02-08-2020, 04:45 PM
Totally agree! Tuesday is the game that makes me most nervous. They are playing well

timotheus
02-08-2020, 04:59 PM
We going to sneek in the pavilion and watch it.

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 05:01 PM
I think we win both games. We're playing well too.

timotheus
02-08-2020, 05:04 PM
I just hope Ben can keep our guys from trying to have a 3 point shooting contest with the sharks. Long range shooting is all they have. I do agree that Perry should have a field day. He always plays well when he knows he has weak competition.

OLJWales
02-08-2020, 05:29 PM
We have got to beat Vandy at home. We will probably lose to Ole Miss at their place, they're actually playing pretty well the last few games, and road games are tough. Our fans will freak out, but I think we lose that game.

I'm gonna go with we sweep shitbird this year. I think Perry will be the difference maker in both games. I'm still hoping / thinking we can make a run towards the tourney. Losing to shitbird in either of the 2 games will not (and should not ) allow us into the Big Dance. I think we can do it.

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 05:29 PM
Not our game, but also not worth a new thread.

Arkansas/Missouri game pretty good, going down to the wire.

OLJWales
02-08-2020, 05:31 PM
Not our game, but also not worth a new thread.

Arkansas/Missouri game pretty good, going down to the wire.

thanks, I'm gonna go check that out, thanks for the head's up.

OLJWales
02-08-2020, 05:45 PM
Pig taking Shouldn't be in the SEC into OT on the road. We need to root for the Pig, no?

Ari Gold
02-08-2020, 07:07 PM
Need to find a way and 3-1 against OM and Cocks.
OM has actually helped us out the last 2 games with wins over Cocks and Fla
Big loss by Arky today as well . Which also helps

The SEC is only getting 5 maybe 6 teams at the most. IMO
LSU / Aub / Kentucky are in
State/ Arky/ Cocks / Fla right now are battling for 2 maybe 3 spots. I don’t see Tenn or Bama getting back in the conversation.. We are 2-0 right now in this grouping with 3 games left. Just handle our business and we are in.

R2Dawg
02-08-2020, 08:04 PM
South Carolina is one I'm most concerned about after whoever the next one is (Vandy tonight).

Agree on teams fighting for NCAAT bids. If Ark keeps losing, they will play their way out of tourney. SC may play their way in. We are better than UF, period and I think Ark too and USC.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 08:38 PM
Playing decent defense just brain farts here and there. Leave a guy wide open from 3 and Nick W screwing up and allowing a transition layup. How Nick W goes we go. Have to have him play at least very good every night. He can?t take a night off. He?s the straw that stirs the drink.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 08:47 PM
Playing good defense. Just having brain farts not getting back a couple of times and that?s their scoring but they aren?t scoring in the half court. 14-9 right now. We need to run our offense and run it through Reggie Perry. They don?t have anyone who can guard him.

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 08:51 PM
Beautiful passes there, but then we missed the layup.

HoopsDawg
02-08-2020, 08:57 PM
Ben, I implore you to give some of Carters minutes to Molinar. Please!!

bigplayslay
02-08-2020, 09:03 PM
Stewart and Molinar have bright futures for the hoop dawgs. If we somehow keep one of Perry and Woodard we will be solid again next year.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:07 PM
Play good defense 25 of 30 seconds and then those 5 seconds let them drive for an easier shot. Not playing our best but still up 6. But for the love of all that is good set Perry up inside and let him work. Quit setting Perry up 20 feet from the basket. That?s not good for anyone!

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:09 PM
I?m sorry but Woodard is not a first round draft pick. He isn?t.

msstate7
02-08-2020, 09:10 PM
Sigh

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:11 PM
Woodard is killing us this game.

Bdawg
02-08-2020, 09:11 PM
I?m sorry but Woodard is not a first round draft pick. He isn?t.

He's had quite the bad half.

HoopsDawg
02-08-2020, 09:11 PM
I?m sorry but Woodard is not a first round draft pick. He isn?t.

No, he's not. Lot of potential. But not there yet.

Bdawg
02-08-2020, 09:13 PM
Woodard might have all our turnovers but one.

msstate7
02-08-2020, 09:13 PM
Lose this game, and om will deliver the death blow to our tourney chances Tuesday.

Leeshouldveflanked
02-08-2020, 09:14 PM
Carter is just not very good...

HoopsDawg
02-08-2020, 09:14 PM
Perry with another 4 turnovers. It just kills us.

Woodard, 1-6 with 2 turnovers.

Better not lose this one boys.

msstate7
02-08-2020, 09:14 PM
Woodard might have all our turnovers but one.

Perry has 4 TOs

Bdawg
02-08-2020, 09:14 PM
They sure have a lot of stripped balls with no fouls called.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:16 PM
Lose this game, and om will deliver the death blow to our tourney chances Tuesday.

Worst five minutes we?ve played this year. Seems like I say that a lot with this team. Can?t keep playing like shit for spurts in games otherwise it will be a quick March no matter where we are.

HoopsDawg
02-08-2020, 09:16 PM
Carter is just not very good...

-5 in Carters 12 minutes. I just don't see why Molinar doesn't get his minutes. So much upside with Molinar.

Bdawg
02-08-2020, 09:16 PM
Perry has 4 TOs

Guess I thought some of those were Woodard's. Seems Woodard was losing the ball the most and missing easy shots.

parabrave
02-08-2020, 09:17 PM
Woodard might have all our turnovers but one.

Actually Perry has 4 and Woodward has 2. The main problem according to RW is that we are slow as heck getting back on transition defense. And also lay off the 3s.

RLM38654
02-08-2020, 09:18 PM
Unfortunately, I have an overwhelming feeling this game is going down to the wire.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:19 PM
Guess I thought some of those were Woodard's. Seems Woodard was losing the ball the most and missing easy shots.

Perry is also playing 20+ feet away from the basket and not playing in the post. Woodard is shooting too many jump shots. He misses way too many of those to jump to the draft this year.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:20 PM
Unfortunately, I have an overwhelming feeling this game is going down to the wire.

Not really. It?s not like Vandy is beating us as much as we are beating ourselves. I think we make the adjustments and win comfortably like we did against Tennessee.

HoopsDawg
02-08-2020, 09:20 PM
Actually Perry has 4 and Woodward has 2. The main problem according to RW is that we are slow as heck getting back on transition defense. And also lay off the 3s.

We are 1-7 from 3. Achilles heel of the team and will probably be our downfall. Molinar is really the only guy who can knock down 3's consistently and he doesn't play.

R2Dawg
02-08-2020, 09:21 PM
Same ole, same ole. Stand around on O, take bad shots or miss easy shots. Perry turning ball over, Woodard bad half, Carter idk what is up with him. DJ not bailing us out tonight. Vandy getting all the hustle plays now. Another bad 1st half. Have we played a good first half this year?

Bdawg
02-08-2020, 09:21 PM
Perry is also playing 20+ feet away from the basket and not playing in the post. Woodard is shooting too many jump shots. He misses way too many of those to jump to the draft this year.

He had a couple pull up jumper that were way to open and close to the basket to miss.

Bdawg
02-08-2020, 09:23 PM
Unfortunately, I have an overwhelming feeling this game is going down to the wire.

Play our normal 2nd half as of late and we win by 8-10.

msstate7
02-08-2020, 09:23 PM
Carter's outside shot is just not good. He does drive the ball well though... I wish he'd do that more if he's gonna keep logging this many mins

bigplayslay
02-08-2020, 09:24 PM
I think we'll get a couple buckets to start the second half, the crowd will get back into it and we'll be fine.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:25 PM
We are 1-7 from 3. Achilles heel of the team and will probably be our downfall. Molinar is really the only guy who can knock down 3's consistently and he doesn't play.

It?s called running the offense through Perry on the inside or Nick W driving to the basket and finding the open man. I don?t think we?ve taken a good three that whole half. If Perry is playing offense 20 feet from the basket our offense sucks.

timotheus
02-08-2020, 09:28 PM
Ben is a "let em do what they want" type of coach. If the 3's ain't falling then there is a chance it'll turn ugly. Vandy is hungry and WELL coached so an energetic 2nd half is imperative for MSU.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:28 PM
Carter's outside shot is just not good. He does drive the ball well though... I wish he'd do that more if he's gonna keep logging this many mins

He?s passed up at least 3 good three point shots for bad drives to the basket or an even worse three point shot. He needs to be our set shooter. We have enough slashers on this team. What we don?t have is a spot up shooter. If he?d be that spot up shooter for us, we?d be a better team because he?s a much better shooter then what he?s shown.

RLM38654
02-08-2020, 09:28 PM
Not really. It?s not like Vandy is beating us as much as we are beating ourselves. I think we make the adjustments and win comfortably like we did against Tennessee.

That's what I'm worried about, we gave them confidence in a game we have nothing to gain and everything to lose. I hope you're right but this game feels different to me.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:30 PM
Ben is a "let em do what they want" type of coach. If the 3's ain't falling then there is a chance it'll turn ugly. Vandy is hungry and WELL coached so an energetic 2nd half is imperative for MSU.

You can?t be serious on the ?well coached? part. Their coach is Jerry Stackhouse. That was a dumb hire by an AD who was just fired this week.

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 09:32 PM
Let's hope we're once again a second half team.

parabrave
02-08-2020, 09:35 PM
Now thats the way you come out and start a half.

HoopsDawg
02-08-2020, 09:36 PM
I can't remember a team that plays 2 halves so differently.

msstate7
02-08-2020, 09:38 PM
Hit em with another spurt out the TO, and they'll probably fold

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:38 PM
I can't remember a team that plays 2 halves so differently.

Me either and we definitely take plays and minutes off. This will be a double digit win but make no mistake play that first half like we did tonight at Ole Miss and we are probably looking at coming back from a double digit deficit against them in the second half.

HoopsDawg
02-08-2020, 09:41 PM
Damn Perry with 22 already.

HoopsDawg
02-08-2020, 09:44 PM
2 more moving screens for Ado. Can someone teach him how to set a screen. It's every game!!!

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:47 PM
We just can?t help ourselves.

timotheus
02-08-2020, 09:51 PM
You can?t be serious on the ?well coached? part. Their coach is Jerry Stackhouse. That was a dumb hire by an AD who was just fired this week.

Yes. Jerry is getting all he can from this team and they lost one of their best players weeks ago. I get it, I am old and have seen way too much ball.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 09:56 PM
Yes. Jerry is getting all he can from this team and they lost one of their best players weeks ago. I get it, I am old and have seen way too much ball.

He will be fired in three years. He?s Rick Ray level bad.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 10:01 PM
Just loafing around right now and for some dumb reason we have Perry playing once again on the perimeter. Sigh.

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 10:05 PM
He will be fired in three years. He?s Rick Ray level bad.

Kind of a cool dude though. Most likely the best dressed coach in the country.

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 10:08 PM
Just loafing around right now and for some dumb reason we have Perry playing once again on the perimeter. Sigh.

Yep. I hope they're just toying around with Vandy, because we should be much the superior team.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 10:09 PM
Shitty effort this game. Very disappointed.

msstate7
02-08-2020, 10:09 PM
Looked like we cruising to a win... hold my beer - Woodard

Apoplectic
02-08-2020, 10:09 PM
man sit woodard

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 10:13 PM
Looked like we cruising to a win... hold my beer - Woodard

It?s not just Woodard. Everyone hasn?t played well including Perry who has a lot of points but way too many turnovers.

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 10:14 PM
Ado took a pretty good hit there, but hopefully OK. Looked like his back bent backward.

Bdawg
02-08-2020, 10:14 PM
Man this should be a blow out. 4 point play gave them hope. Finally sat Woodard. Thank goodness

R2Dawg
02-08-2020, 10:15 PM
Yep. I hope they're just toying around with Vandy, because we should be much the superior team.

Yeah that is what LSU said too. At least we are not the team that the most losing team in SEC history beat to break streak. LSU had it coming though; Aub has it coming now. Living on the edge.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 10:18 PM
I reiterate what I said about Stackhouse not being a good coach. He chose to put Nick W on the line for freethrows.

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 10:18 PM
Yeah that is what LSU said too. At least we are not the team that the most losing team in SEC history beat to break streak. LSU had it coming though; Aub has it coming now. Living on the edge.

Yeah, that's true. Doesn't pay to be over-confident.

I think we play with a little more enthusiasm against the Bears.

msstate7
02-08-2020, 10:20 PM
Yeah, that's true. Doesn't pay to be over-confident.

I think we play with a little more enthusiasm against the Bears.

Tuesday night is gonna be tough. We absolutely can win, but they're playing well

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 10:21 PM
Tuesday night is gonna be tough. We absolutely can win, but they're playing well

Yeah, and we have't finished this one off yet.

PGHBulldogBG
02-08-2020, 10:22 PM
I doubt we win in Oxford or Fayetteville. Only road win I see left is maybe Missouri. Probably 10-8 or 9-9 in SEC. Depends on the results of this final and Bama at home

Bdawg
02-08-2020, 10:22 PM
What a horrible call

99jc
02-08-2020, 10:25 PM
This team makes watching so frustrating

Bdawg
02-08-2020, 10:25 PM
I agree with announcers, Perry didn't touch it enough late in this game. High ball screens with him and nothing hardly to get it to him down low.

Bdawg
02-08-2020, 10:27 PM
This team makes watching so frustrating

Seems like nobody on this team is a killer. Won't put the dagger in anybody.

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 10:27 PM
Not real pretty, but a win nevertheless.

msstate7
02-08-2020, 10:28 PM
Well this wasn't pretty, but we took care of business. Just win

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 10:28 PM
I doubt we win in Oxford or Fayetteville. Only road win I see left is maybe Missouri. Probably 10-8 or 9-9 in SEC. Depends on the results of this final and Bama at home

Goodness. So you are saying we finish 3-5 down the stretch where we should be favored in every game but one? What a dumb ass take.

bigplayslay
02-08-2020, 10:28 PM
We got the dub. On to the next one.

bigplayslay
02-08-2020, 10:29 PM
Goodness. So you are saying we finish 3-5 down the stretch where we should be favored in every game but one? What a dumb ass take.

Hahaha I'm glad someone called him out.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 10:30 PM
I say we finish 12-6 to be a top 4 SEC tourney seed.

PGHBulldogBG
02-08-2020, 10:31 PM
Goodness. So you are saying we finish 3-5 down the stretch where we should be favored in every game but one? What a dumb ass take.

I?m not sure besides Missouri what road win you see if we play like this? Maybe TAMU? Their defense is good though and could give Perry problems. I fully believe we should out talent everyone, but we lost to La Tech and NMSU and have played some bad games. If we had an above average coach we would finish this 13-5 but Howland is very average so I see 10-8 maybe 11-7 at best

RocketDawg
02-08-2020, 10:32 PM
I doubt we win in Oxford or Fayetteville. Only road win I see left is maybe Missouri. Probably 10-8 or 9-9 in SEC. Depends on the results of this final and Bama at home

We're gonna beat the Bears, Oxford or not. Missouri isn't a pushover - they beat Arkansas today.

I watched a little of the Arkansas/Missouri game today. One of the Arkansas players was being really belligerant with his head coach. Should have been benched but wasn't.

HoopsDawg
02-08-2020, 10:32 PM
glad we got the win and glad this game is over.

bigplayslay
02-08-2020, 10:32 PM
Daymeon Fishback says he can't figure out why the dawgs can't play that well in the first half. We are all with you my man.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 10:34 PM
Hahaha I'm glad someone called him out.

It?s obvious we took Vandy for granted this game. I?m not expecting us to play like this Tuesday. This was a just play well enough to win. Sucks but that is what this team does.

MarketingBully
02-08-2020, 10:36 PM
I?m not sure besides Missouri what road win you see if we play like this? Maybe TAMU? Their defense is good though and could give Perry problems. I fully believe we should out talent everyone, but we lost to La Tech and NMSU and have played some bad games. If we had an above average coach we would finish this 13-5 but Howland is very average so I see 10-8 maybe 11-7 at best

The point is we aren?t going to play like this. It?s obvious we looked at Vandy?s record and coasted.

Turfdawg67
02-08-2020, 10:38 PM
Yeah, and we have't finished this one off yet.

The person you're responding to is a closet Reb. Just flows back and forth to whomever is winning. Hell, he probably married a Rebel. (Wink wink)

PGHBulldogBG
02-08-2020, 10:38 PM
Hahaha I'm glad someone called him out.

So far I predicted 9-4 in non conference. I was right about all games except I thought we would lose to KSU and beat La Tech. Conference I predicted 10-8. That is still my prediction but the win at Florida made me move it up to possibly 11-7. I have watched miss state basketball for 20 plus years and I know not to get my hopes up. Howland is a great recruiter and average coach so that?s where I get the 10-8 or 11-7. Hope I?m wrong and we end 14-4

WeWonItAll(Most)
02-08-2020, 10:39 PM
We played fine. Turned it over a little too much but otherwise I don't know what the all the griping is about. Vandy has played well their last 4 games.

ETA: We also have too many stretches where Perry doesn't touch the ball down low.

Turfdawg67
02-08-2020, 10:42 PM
Goodness. So you are saying we finish 3-5 down the stretch where we should be favored in every game but one? What a dumb ass take.

About like saying our team sucks monkey balls and they wind up a 5 seed in the tournament? Maybe you should tone down the finger pointing Nostradamus.

msstate7
02-08-2020, 10:42 PM
Delete

Ari Gold
02-08-2020, 11:21 PM
I?m not sure besides Missouri what road win you see if we play like this? Maybe TAMU? Their defense is good though and could give Perry problems. I fully believe we should out talent everyone, but we lost to La Tech and NMSU and have played some bad games. If we had an above average coach we would finish this 13-5 but Howland is very average so I see 10-8 maybe 11-7 at best

Might be one of the dumbest takes in a while..
Howland is average is the worse take
First you said 9-9, then 10-8 or maybe 11-7...

Ari Gold
02-08-2020, 11:23 PM
We played fine. Turned it over a little too much but otherwise I don't know what the all the griping is about. Vandy has played well their last 4 games.

ETA: We also have too many stretches where Perry doesn't touch the ball down low.

They bitch because it’s men’s hoops.. doesn’t matter if it’s a win or loss...

maroonmania
02-09-2020, 09:11 AM
It?s obvious we took Vandy for granted this game. I?m not expecting us to play like this Tuesday. This was a just play well enough to win. Sucks but that is what this team does.

Apparently we take everyone for granted in the first half. As the commercial says, its what we do.

thf24
02-09-2020, 09:49 AM
I don't understand how game-to-game expectations have been set at a level that our program has NEVER consistently competed at. After every game, the bar keeps getting moved to whatever point makes us not good enough, win or lose, and it's getting absurd.

R2Dawg
02-09-2020, 09:53 AM
Apparently we take everyone for granted in the first half. As the commercial says, its what we do.

I think we come out with playground mentality in first halves then realize we have to play SEC competitive basketball to advance and we do. We will not win anything of note until we change our mindset.

By playground mentality I mean play NBA all star game D, make the sensational one hand bounce pass 3/4 court, jack up ill advised 3s, not get back in transition D, dribble and stand around on O then take a bad one on one shot.

When we get serious, we are really good. Like announces said last night, we don't have a weakness on this team when focused.

softballfanatic1
02-09-2020, 09:55 AM
Beautiful passes there, but then we missed the layup.

Yeah the missed layup sucked but those passes were next level beautiful. This team could be special. Headed to see our women play. Big game for Vic and the ladies.

WeWonItAll(Most)
02-09-2020, 09:56 AM
It?s obvious we took Vandy for granted this game. I?m not expecting us to play like this Tuesday. This was a just play well enough to win. Sucks but that is what this team does.

Their last 4 games are against us, Kentucky, Florida and LSU. We beat them by the widest margin of any of the 4. You're the poster child of the post below.


I don't understand how game-to-game expectations have been set at a level that our program has NEVER consistently competed at. After every game, the bar keeps getting moved to whatever point makes us not good enough, win or lose, and it's getting absurd.
+1

msstate7
02-09-2020, 10:16 AM
We were 15:16 assists to TOs, and we were equal in offensive rebounds against the 13th best def rebounding team in the sec. We didn't play well, but we won... gonna have to do better in those categories Tuesday to win

WeWonItAll(Most)
02-09-2020, 10:43 AM
We were 15:16 assists to TOs, and we were equal in offensive rebounds against the 13th best def rebounding team in the sec. We didn't play well, but we won... gonna have to do better in those categories Tuesday to win

Anyone who looks at the box score would realize you cherry picked literally the only 2 stat lines that could be used negatively. We outrebounded them +7, which eyeballing our other SEC box scores looks to be right at or 1-2 rebounds below our SEC average.

tcdog70
02-09-2020, 10:45 AM
We were 15:16 assists to TOs, and we were equal in offensive rebounds against the 13th best def rebounding team in the sec. We didn't play well, but we won... gonna have to do better in those categories Tuesday to win

I'll take the main stat that matters--we won by 10 points.

msstate7
02-09-2020, 11:17 AM
Anyone who looks at the box score would realize you cherry picked literally the only 2 stat lines that could be used negatively. We outrebounded them +7, which eyeballing our other SEC box scores looks to be right at or 1-2 rebounds below our SEC average.

We are a damn good offensive reb team that is TO prone... these should be the stats we look at every game. Against Kentucky, we dominated the off boards (+7), but we 1:2 in assists to TO, which bit us. This is 2 straight games we've been upside down in assists fo TO which is concerning. We were positive in the wins over mizzou, ark, tenn, and Georgia. We were negative against Kentucky and Oklahoma, losses. We were negative against Florida and vandy, but we were 60% from 3 vs Florida (fluke) and vandy is a bad team.

It's ridiculous to imply I'm trying to down this team or whatever. After the LSU game, I called the 3 game winning streak, and I've been consistently saying this team has potential. We didn't play well last though, and I'm sorry if that offends you.

Dawgology
02-09-2020, 11:20 AM
We've been playing very fast offensively the last several games. Really pushing the ball down the court. That type of offense lends itself to turnovers. It high risk high reward. I think if we play conservative last night we may have ended up with a loss.

West Tn Dawg
02-09-2020, 11:37 AM
Seems we always have one or two periods where we get most of the turnovers. and it looks like most are lazy passes that get picked off.

OLJWales
02-09-2020, 01:28 PM
Seems we always have one or two periods where we get most of the turnovers. and it looks like most are lazy passes that get picked off.

I HATE Lazy passes.

WeWonItAll(Most)
02-09-2020, 02:11 PM
We are a damn good offensive reb team that is TO prone... these should be the stats we look at every game. Against Kentucky, we dominated the off boards (+7), but we 1:2 in assists to TO, which bit us. This is 2 straight games we've been upside down in assists fo TO which is concerning. We were positive in the wins over mizzou, ark, tenn, and Georgia. We were negative against Kentucky and Oklahoma, losses. We were negative against Florida and vandy, but we were 60% from 3 vs Florida (fluke) and vandy is a bad team.

It's ridiculous to imply I'm trying to down this team or whatever. After the LSU game, I called the 3 game winning streak, and I've been consistently saying this team has potential. We didn't play well last though, and I'm sorry if that offends you.

Get out of here with this garbage. Sorry I'm interrupting the usual constant wailing you're used to seeing in the game threads.

We're averaging 12.3 assists/game and 12.6 turnovers/game in SEC play. And shooting over 50% doesn't exactly lend itself to racking up offensive boards. Like our overall rebounding, we look like we were 2-3 offensive rebounds short of our average when shooting >50% in SEC play. So by your own admission, your definition of not playing well is having an average assist:turnover game and not snagging 2-3 more rebounds.

In the last 2 weeks Vandy lost by 9 @UK, 6 against Florida, beat LSU, and lost by 10 @the Hump. They're playing pretty good basketball right now and we handled them just as well or better than 3 of the other top teams in the conference did.

msstate7
02-09-2020, 02:13 PM
Get out of here with this garbage. Sorry I'm interrupting the usual constant wailing you're used to seeing in the game threads.

We're averaging 12.3 assists/game and 12.6 turnovers/game in SEC play. And shooting over 50% doesn't exactly lend itself to racking up offensive boards. Like our overall rebounding, we look like we were 2-3 offensive rebounds short of our average when shooting >50% in SEC play. So by your own admission, your definition of not playing well is having an average assist:turnover game and not snagging 2-3 more rebounds.

In the last 2 weeks Vandy lost by 9 @UK, 6 against Florida, beat LSU, and lost by 10 @the Hump. They're playing pretty good basketball right now and we handled them just as well or better than 3 of the other top teams in the conference did.

I'm not arguing anymore... we played our best game last night. We are at our peak, no doubt

RougeDawg
02-09-2020, 02:18 PM
We somehow have to start making the halftime adjustments in the first half. We are unstoppable most 2nd halves. Why can?t we do that from the 10 min mark in the first through the end of the game. Always seem to dig a 1st half hole, and come roaring back in the 2nd.

Eta. I’m in Little Rock visiting in laws. At halftime they were talking about being down to Vandy at half. Took a bet with one of the brother in laws at half that we’d come back in the 2nd and win by double digits. Had me sweating a little at the end.

WeWonItAll(Most)
02-09-2020, 02:22 PM
I'm not arguing anymore... we played our best game last night. We are at our peak, no doubt

Nice. Thanks

dawgday166
02-09-2020, 02:23 PM
I'm not arguing anymore... we played our best game last night. We are at our peak, no doubt

FWIW I'm with you dude. Right now even if we make tourney we ain't going very far in it.

This team can't handle prosperity IMO. We play good D, run floor some, move/share ball on O, get up on a team then start playing playground ball trying to make highlight reel passes and next thing you know, after multiple TOs and missed opportunities we're in hole again. Just stupid basketball.

When we were "dominating" as someone posted, we had lost to Ok then came from behind after being down at half twice to beat very average FL and TN teams by 7 and 13 pts. That ain't even close to domination in my book.

We got 8 games left and shouldn't do worse than 7-1 IMO. Need some momentum going into postseason or it'll be a short one. And we need to start playing whole games with some consistency. We really need to win comfortably against pretty much everyone left on our schedule. We need to develop the killer instinct ... which we don't have.

MarketingBully
02-09-2020, 02:43 PM
We played about 15 minutes of good basketball and 25 minutes of meh basketball. We played the worst team in the league and won by 10 at home. That wasn?t our best effort. Our best efforts were the UGA and MZ games at home and the second halves of the Florida and Tennessee games. We need to work on ways to play more consistently like those games and not play like we did last night. Glad we won but we won?t be able to play like that and win games like @OM and @Ark. Have to play better defense, get back in transition, and play through Perry on offense for both halves to finish the way we want to.

MarketingBully
02-09-2020, 02:47 PM
FWIW I'm with you dude. Right now even if we make tourney we ain't going very far in it.

This team can't handle prosperity IMO. We play good D, run floor some, move/share ball on O, get up on a team then start playing playground ball trying to make highlight reel passes and next thing you know, after multiple TOs and missed opportunities we're in hole again. Just stupid basketball.

When we were "dominating" as someone posted, we had lost to Ok then came from behind after being down at half twice to beat very average FL and TN teams by 7 and 13 pts. That ain't even close to domination in my book.

We got 8 games left and shouldn't do worse than 7-1 IMO. Need some momentum going into postseason or it'll be a short one. And we need to start playing whole games with some consistency. We really need to win comfortably against pretty much everyone left on our schedule. We need to develop the killer instinct ... which we don't have.

We dominated Mizzou and UGA. The killer instinct is there. It?s just not seen that often.

dawgday166
02-09-2020, 02:51 PM
We dominated Mizzou and UGA. The killer instinct is there. It?s just not seen that often.

We're moving into the time of year to have it almost every game. Especially against our competition down the stretch. 2 games against cellar dweller SEC teams 6 or so games ago does not the killer instinct make.

Ari Gold
02-09-2020, 06:33 PM
We're moving into the time of year to have it almost every game. Especially against our competition down the stretch. 2 games against cellar dweller SEC teams 6 or so games ago does not the killer instinct make.

Our last 9 we are 6-3 with 2 road losses on the final shot of the game and a 8 point loss at UK.
2 of the 6 wins are Against teams projected in the tourney right now , with one of those being on the road.
I would say we are projecting upward.

Ari Gold
02-09-2020, 06:36 PM
FWIW I'm with you dude. Right now even if we make tourney we ain't going very far in it.

This team can't handle prosperity IMO. We play good D, run floor some, move/share ball on O, get up on a team then start playing playground ball trying to make highlight reel passes and next thing you know, after multiple TOs and missed opportunities we're in hole again. Just stupid basketball.

When we were "dominating" as someone posted, we had lost to Ok then came from behind after being down at half twice to beat very average FL and TN teams by 7 and 13 pts. That ain't even close to domination in my book.

We got 8 games left and shouldn't do worse than 7-1 IMO. Need some momentum going into postseason or it'll be a short one. And we need to start playing whole games with some consistency. We really need to win comfortably against pretty much everyone left on our schedule. We need to develop the killer instinct ... which we don't have.

Well if we make the tourney and are bounced early will be no different than any other team we have had since 1996...

dawgday166
02-09-2020, 06:47 PM
Our last 9 we are 6-3 with 2 road losses on the final shot of the game and a 8 point loss at UK.
2 of the 6 wins are Against teams projected in the tourney right now , with one of those being on the road.
I would say we are projecting upward.

I'd say we're sorta ok but we're really doing what we should've been doing back in Jan with all those losses. Trending upward ... I dunno yet.


Well if we make the tourney and are bounced early will be no different than any other team we have had since 1996...

Not arguing and not saying fire Howland either. But this team shouldn't be bounced out of tourney on 1st weekend unless our seed is very low due to W/L record and bad losses. It's getting pert near time to turn it on and quit having stretches in games where we lollygag around with teams. Especially the teams we're playing now.

Even Howland said after TN game he was "getting awfully tired of being down at the half" and there was a fair note of irritation when he said it. So we ain't the only ones bothered by it.

Ari Gold
02-09-2020, 06:53 PM
I'd say we're sorta ok but we're really doing what we should've been doing back in Jan with all those losses. Trending upward ... I dunno yet.



Not arguing and not saying fire Howland either. But this team shouldn't be bounced out of tourney on 1st weekend unless our seed is very low due to W/L record and bad losses. It's getting pert near time to turn it on and quit having stretches in games where we lollygag around with teams. Especially the teams we're playing now.

Even Howland said after TN game he was "getting awfully tired of being down at the half" and there was a fair note of irritation when he said it. So we ain't the only ones bothered by it.

He should be pissed, upset , bothered and concerned ... I’m sure he wants perfection.. nothing wrong with that..