I'd Love to See MSU Become a Leader in This Area

[ShotgunDawg]

While Alabama & other blue bloods are hiring ex-coaches as analysts, why aren't more teams taking advantage of on-campus professors & hiring them as co-op analysts to develop sports science advantages like Liverpool is doing?

Pretty good article here & it's pretty easy to see the advantages that this type of research could create in football.

Would love for Cohen & Leach to go down this path. MSU probably already has the brains employed on academic side to go down this path.

Why continue to hire coaches as analysts when you can take a different route and re-invent the wheel to some degree?

https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc-news/features/liverpool-transfer-news-jurgen-klopp-17569689

[msbulldog]

Good idea, Gun!

[The Federalist Engineer]

Im sure the Department of Industrial and Systems Engineering would gladly accept an endowment to make this happen. It would be interesting specialization.

But - this Liverpool as geniuses thing is propaganda. Klopp is a lucky sucker with deep pocket owners. Even the example play is against a collapsing team. Spurs had a defender sleep with their top playmaker?s wife and now he left the team. Also, the top Spurs player Kane was hurt for this game.

Liverpool is doing great because they signed Virgil Van Dijk. Before VVD, they were a clown show on defense. VVD erases 1 goal per game by opponents, all by himself. That?s a huge margin in soccer. Outside of VVD, Klopp has lucked into problems fixing themselves against his strategies.

The Klopp had a pet player named Emre Can that was the definition of human garbage starting every game. When Can wanted more money, Klopps bosses refused to pay. Emre Can now wants to return because a smarter coach doesn?t see any football value.

The brilliant Klopp also had a super negative Brazilian named Coutinho that demanded a central role and disrupted team chemistry with constant need for vacations, delayed returns from Brazil, and very up/down play. Klopp lucked out here when the cancer extracted itself. The Brazilian went to Barcelona mid-year for more money, where he now is a bit player and Barcelona is a total regretful buyer

Then there is Alberto Moreno situation that produced some of the worst defensive brain farts ever seen in a major club. He was a Klopp favorite until hurt. Andrew Robertson took the role through injury and fan pressure kept him in the job even as Klopp wanted Alberto Moreno.

So big Luck and big Spending has more to do with Liverpool success.

[ShotgunDawg]

So big Luck and big Spending has more to do with Liverpool success.

this certainly plays a big part, but according to this article, we are seeing the best season in European history.

I'd say that's a little more than Luck & spending.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-england-liv-sou-klopp-idUKKBN1ZV400?taid=5e3658c1ecb7110001ba3444&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

[The Federalist Engineer]

this certainly plays a big part, but according to this article, we are seeing the best season in European history.

I'd say that's a little more than Luck & spending.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-england-liv-sou-klopp-idUKKBN1ZV400?taid=5e3658c1ecb7110001ba3444&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

No argument they are good. But in UK soccer Liverpool are like Alabama or New York Yankees. They are always either good or very good. Every kid in Thailand and Tokyo is wearing a LFC Jersey. Liverpool’s goalie costs more than most teams total budget.

If were talking Everton or Crystal Palace having a historic season, yep...some magic and big data is required. These guys are like the Cleveland Browns or Kentucky football. They would compare to Billy Beans misfits in Oakland

[parabrave]

While Alabama & other blue bloods are hiring ex-coaches as analysts, why aren't more teams taking advantage of on-campus professors & hiring them as co-op analysts to develop sports science advantages like Liverpool is doing?

Pretty good article here & it's pretty easy to see the advantages that this type of research could create in football.

Would love for Cohen & Leach to go down this path. MSU probably already has the brains employed on academic side to go down this path.

Why continue to hire coaches as analysts when you can take a different route and re-invent the wheel to some degree?

https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc-news/features/liverpool-transfer-news-jurgen-klopp-17569689

I remember RW was a math teacher and applied that background to his coaching philosophy. More notably Tom Landry and Tex Schram applied technology to the the way that Landry gameplanned and the way Schram drafted players. That turned out pretty well till other did it also. Some of theses math whizzes can get your playbook and the opposing teams capabilities and develop a gameplan for a coach to use.