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ShotgunDawg
01-17-2020, 07:21 PM
Is Ole Miss hiring T Buck?

I genuinely hope Leach is making a mistake here.

This is the first situation that makes me a little worried.

BuckyIsAB****
01-17-2020, 07:24 PM
Is Ole Miss hiring T Buck?

I genuinely hope Leach is making a mistake here.

This is the first situation that makes me a little worried.

Where did you see or hear this

Ifyouonlyknew
01-17-2020, 07:26 PM
Idk if he's going to OM but he won't be at MSU. I like Buck but I don't think he does anything great. He's a solid coach & a decent recruiter. His best attribute is he's a players coach. They really like him.

Homedawg
01-17-2020, 07:26 PM
What did t buck do to me retained? Coaching? Recruiting?? If he keeps him ok. But it's not like it's a Homerun. Not even a double.

OLJWales
01-17-2020, 07:27 PM
Delete

BuckyIsAB****
01-17-2020, 07:28 PM
Idk if he's going to OM but he won't be at MSU. I like Buck but I don't think he does anything great. He's a solid coach & a decent recruiter. His best attribute is he's a players coach. They really like him.

I will say this. I heard him say with my own ears that he thought Moorhead was a sinking ship after the 2018 season

Ifyouonlyknew
01-17-2020, 07:29 PM
Whose decision?

Not his

Cooterpoot
01-17-2020, 07:31 PM
Oh well. I kinda like all the change.

ShotgunDawg
01-17-2020, 07:33 PM
Where did you see or hear this

Twitter

Really Clark?
01-17-2020, 07:34 PM
He won?t be here and looks possible he ends up at UM.

HailStateSZN19
01-17-2020, 07:39 PM
Well..... bye. Since we’re about to be an extreme pass-happy team, does this mean OM will now bust tons of coverage and let us burn their secondary consistently? But for real, he’s a great guy and a “good” coach. He ain’t the loss some are making it out to be. I’d MUCH rather OM hire him than pull Woodson away from Auburn. No question about it.

KB21
01-17-2020, 08:11 PM
Average recruiter and below average position coach. Contrary to popular opinion by a lot of MSU fans, you have to actually be able to coach the position you recruit to be successful.

Leeshouldveflanked
01-17-2020, 08:14 PM
Louisville still has WR?s wide open....

bobcat91
01-17-2020, 08:23 PM
Average recruiting and terrible on field coach. 5 of his recruits decommitted and went other places. Just not that good.

KOdawg1
01-17-2020, 08:35 PM
Tbuck is good, not great. What hurts isn't us losing him, it's us replacing him with a guy from WSU that was a part of a terrible defense.

Todd4State
01-17-2020, 08:38 PM
Pretty sure Leach will hire Darcel McBath who has a resume similar to Buckley's.

Ifyouonlyknew
01-17-2020, 08:44 PM
Tbuck is good, not great. What hurts isn't us losing him, it's us replacing him with a guy from WSU that was a part of a terrible defense.

The teams pass defenses were similar. WSU was 114th MSU was 97th. I don't know the reason for WSU struggles. The year before they were an average pass defense. 4th in the PAC 12.

DLGDawg
01-17-2020, 08:49 PM
Idk if he's going to OM but he won't be at MSU. I like Buck but I don't think he does anything great. He's a solid coach & a decent recruiter. His best attribute is he's a players coach. They really like him.

Is TBuck gone a done deal?? In another thread someone was saying they thought he's being retained. No one knows where it originated from that he's staying.
What say you IYOK??

KOdawg1
01-17-2020, 08:56 PM
I'm fine with Leach bringing in his offensive guys. But we upped our assistant salary pool to 4.7 million. This shouldn't be just an opportunity for the WSU staff to get a raise. I want no part of their guys on defense. He needs to hire a stud DC and let him spend the money to get good assistants here. TBuck at OM only hurts us if we go cheap and hire an average coach.

Really Clark?
01-17-2020, 09:12 PM
I'm fine with Leach bringing in his offensive guys. But we upped our assistant salary pool to 4.7 million. This shouldn't be just an opportunity for the WSU staff to get a raise. I want no part of their guys on defense. He needs to hire a stud DC and let him spend the money to get good assistants here. TBuck at OM only hurts us if we go cheap and hire an average coach.

If we hire an average coach then wouldn?t that be a wash? I mean I like TBuck and the players love him as a players coach for sure but if we look at actual coaching and recruiting, it was pretty average with up and down years honestly.

defiantdog
01-17-2020, 09:14 PM
The teams pass defenses were similar. WSU was 114th MSU was 97th. I don't know the reason for WSU struggles. The year before they were an average pass defense. 4th in the PAC 12.

Interim DC with a ton of underclassmen

Ifyouonlyknew
01-17-2020, 09:25 PM
Is TBuck gone a done deal?? In another thread someone was saying they thought he's being retained. No one knows where it originated from that he's staying.
What say you IYOK??

He's not coming back & likely headed to OM.

Dawgowar
01-17-2020, 09:28 PM
Not sure why anyone is upset. Most on this board screamed for change and a budget to make it happen. It happened. Perhaps the word 'change' does not mean what you think it does?

Leeshouldveflanked
01-17-2020, 09:28 PM
He gone per Johnathon Banks.

Jarius
01-17-2020, 09:29 PM
Average recruiter and below average position coach. Contrary to popular opinion by a lot of MSU fans, you have to actually be able to coach the position you recruit to be successful.

It's not that you don't have to be able to coach it. It's just that coaching certain positions is extremely easy. It's not that is isn't important. It's that you can find a ton of people to coach cornerbacks. You can't find a ton of great recruiters. Buckley is an ok recruiter. He's fine as a corners coach. It isn't a big loss. Hopefully the next guy up can recruit better. We will need them to because quite frankly Buckley was very hit or miss at the most important part of his job, which is recruiting.

DLGDawg
01-17-2020, 09:33 PM
He's not coming back & likely headed to OM.

It's a good situation for FSU to bring him back in some capacity. Kinda telling that they haven't.

KB21
01-17-2020, 09:35 PM
It's not that you don't have to be able to coach it. It's just that coaching certain positions is extremely easy. It's not that is isn't important. It's that you can find a ton of people to coach cornerbacks. You can't find a ton of great recruiters. Buckley is an ok recruiter. He's fine as a corners coach. It isn't a big loss. Hopefully the next guy up can recruit better. We will need them to because quite frankly Buckley was very hit or miss at the most important part of his job, which is recruiting.

While some will lay claim that youth is the reason, I saw far too often Mississippi State’s young corners not understanding their coverage assignments, taking too many false steps in their drops, and playing with poor leverage to believe these guys were coached well. Even with the veteran corners the team has had over the past 4 seasons, we had guys who were talented but underachieved. Jamal Peters was not nearly as good as he should have been with his talent level. Cam Dantzler was a potential stud that wasn’t maximized. I mean, there is a reason that Dan Mullen did not take Buckley with him to Florida. There is a reason he was one of the coaches that were not poached from our staff over the past two seasons. There is a reason that he is pretty much limited to going to Ole Miss at this junction.

Commercecomet24
01-17-2020, 09:38 PM
Buckley was an average coach and recruiter. People are enamored with him because of his playing career. We'll be ok with someone else

Jarius
01-17-2020, 09:44 PM
While some will lay claim that youth is the reason, I saw far too often Mississippi State’s young corners not understanding their coverage assignments, taking too many false steps in their drops, and playing with poor leverage to believe these guys were coached well. Even with the veteran corners the team has had over the past 4 seasons, we had guys who were talented but underachieved. Jamal Peters was not nearly as good as he should have been with his talent level. Cam Dantzler was a potential stud that wasn’t maximized. I mean, there is a reason that Dan Mullen did not take Buckley with him to Florida. There is a reason he was one of the coaches that were not poached from our staff over the past two seasons. There is a reason that he is pretty much limited to going to Ole Miss at this junction.

The reason he wasn't picked up is because he's an average recruiter. Freshmen corners are going to play with bad technique and be out of position because they don't know what they are doing and it's not really fair to blame that on the coach. The only thing that fixes some things is time. We had the #1 defense in the nation last year and our secondary played outstanding. It's about talent and a really good DC that knows how to maximize the talent that the people like your corners coach accumulates. We both agree that Buckley is not a big loss though. Ole Miss did a good job hiring him. He's probably the best they can do and it makes a headline for them. They hired a guy that fosters a culture that kills his players a couple of weeks ago. That doesn't really have anything to do with Buckley but I felt like mentioning it anyway.

Todd4State
01-17-2020, 10:09 PM
I'm fine with Leach bringing in his offensive guys. But we upped our assistant salary pool to 4.7 million. This shouldn't be just an opportunity for the WSU staff to get a raise. I want no part of their guys on defense. He needs to hire a stud DC and let him spend the money to get good assistants here. TBuck at OM only hurts us if we go cheap and hire an average coach.

Let's see who Leach hires as his DC first before we talk about the budget. He actually fired their DC midway through the season and McBath was the interim DC. Safe to say that Leach won't be bringing in Tracy Claeys who he fired this year.

No question in my mind that he hires someone that is likely going to be good and well known with what we can offer.

We also need to keep in mind that our entire football staff was an issue last year. They allowed what went on as a staff. For us to change the culture we're going to have to basically clean house. Even though I think Shoop is good and wouldn't have minded keeping him or T-Buck. Surrounding yourself with people that you trust is typically a wise move- which is what Leach is doing. Assuming McBath is coming on we still have three open spots- and we may be able to get him a little cheaper which could be beneficial now that LSU has lost Aranda.

Speaking of Aranda- we need to remember that Leach is really good at identifying great assistants and Aranda is one of those that he identified early on.

I think we'll all feel better once our staff is filled out honestly. We're in a state of unknown right now and it's causing people to get antsy. I still think we don't announce a DC until the middle of next week so I'm preparing myself to deal with the meltdown and fallout from our fans because of it. We'll see if we name someone tomorrow.

Jarius
01-17-2020, 10:16 PM
Let's see who Leach hires as his DC first before we talk about the budget. He actually fired their DC midway through the season and McBath was the interim DC. Safe to say that Leach won't be bringing in Tracy Claeys who he fired this year.

No question in my mind that he hires someone that is likely going to be good and well known with what we can offer.

We also need to keep in mind that our entire football staff was an issue last year. They allowed what went on as a staff. For us to change the culture we're going to have to basically clean house. Even though I think Shoop is good and wouldn't have minded keeping him or T-Buck. Surrounding yourself with people that you trust is typically a wise move- which is what Leach is doing. Assuming McBath is coming on we still have three open spots- and we may be able to get him a little cheaper which could be beneficial now that LSU has lost Aranda.

Speaking of Aranda- we need to remember that Leach is really good at identifying great assistants and Aranda is one of those that he identified early on.

I think we'll all feel better once our staff is filled out honestly. We're in a state of unknown right now and it's causing people to get antsy. I still think we don't announce a DC until the middle of next week so I'm preparing myself to deal with the meltdown and fallout from our fans because of it. We'll see if we name someone tomorrow.

Yea. Cohen no doubt told Leach about our culture issues. The last thing Leach is going to want to do when inheriting a bunch of spoiled babies who have not been made to act right the past 2 years is to keep a players coach who they all love and adore. Maybe there's a reason a bunch of guys with shitty attitudes all love him so much.

Todd4State
01-17-2020, 10:27 PM
Yea. Cohen no doubt told Leach about our culture issues. The last thing Leach is going to want to do when inheriting a bunch of spoiled babies who have not been made to act right the past 2 years is to keep a players coach who they all love and adore. Maybe there's a reason a bunch of guys with shitty attitudes all love him so much.

Could be. And our fans need to give Leach's guys a chance. Most of them are from the South or Texas. Except the Mele who is from New Jersey but the ironic thing is he is considered Leach's best recruiter so he will probably be fine. Morris looks like an up and comer that probably would have been hired by a SEC school as an o-line coach at some point. Spurrier obviously knows what the SEC is all about and is a huge upgrade at WR. Nichols was a candidate to be the OC at SMU. We're keeping Hughes. Matt Brock was a Broyles Award nominee in 2017 as a ST coach so that's a huge upgrade as well. McBath who likely will replace T-Buck is from Texas and has played in the NFL himself.

So far not a bad staff at all. And I suspect the defensive staff will be good as well once it's filled out. I liked Shoop but Marve didn't impress me at all and Deke has always had question marks about his coaching ability.

Jarius
01-17-2020, 10:31 PM
Moorhead proved that needing to be from the south to be a good recruiter is complete BS. Saban as well. It's about relating to people and building relationships. No one knows if these guys are good recruiters or not. No one can recruit to freaking Washington State. That's like Freeze recruiting to Arkansas State. Yea, Freeze cheated but he was still a really good relationship builder and that didn't show up in recruiting until he went to a place where you could actually get in the door with good prospects.

Really Clark?
01-17-2020, 10:33 PM
While some will lay claim that youth is the reason, I saw far too often Mississippi State?s young corners not understanding their coverage assignments, taking too many false steps in their drops, and playing with poor leverage to believe these guys were coached well. Even with the veteran corners the team has had over the past 4 seasons, we had guys who were talented but underachieved. Jamal Peters was not nearly as good as he should have been with his talent level. Cam Dantzler was a potential stud that wasn?t maximized. I mean, there is a reason that Dan Mullen did not take Buckley with him to Florida. There is a reason he was one of the coaches that were not poached from our staff over the past two seasons. There is a reason that he is pretty much limited to going to Ole Miss at this junction.

And the recruiting issues at that position is why we have youth issues and having to play them before they are ready

Dawg-gone-dawgs
01-17-2020, 10:34 PM
Is Ole Miss hiring T Buck?

I genuinely hope Leach is making a mistake here.

This is the first situation that makes me a little worried.

Why do you HOPE Leach is making a mistake?

ShotgunDawg
01-17-2020, 10:48 PM
Why do you HOPE Leach is making a mistake?

Huh?

Gutter Cobreh
01-17-2020, 10:56 PM
Sometimes when you, yourself, are extraordinary in something - translating that to others is really hard because others physically can't do it or mentally can't comprehend it.

I'm not going to run down TBuck just because he isn't being retained. What I will say is that he was really, really good at playing football. Sometimes though, those that can play the game at that level have a hard time verbalizing and teaching others because those being taught can't physically do it.

Some of the best coaches weren't outstanding players and some of the best players are crappy coaches.

Todd4State
01-17-2020, 11:03 PM
Moorhead proved that needing to be from the south to be a good recruiter is complete BS. Saban as well. It's about relating to people and building relationships. No one knows if these guys are good recruiters or not. No one can recruit to freaking Washington State. That's like Freeze recruiting to Arkansas State. Yea, Freeze cheated but he was still a really good relationship builder and that didn't show up in recruiting until he went to a place where you could actually get in the door with good prospects.

Or Liberty. Right now ranked 92nd on 247 in recruiting. That Square is a magical place.**

Homedawg
01-17-2020, 11:16 PM
The entire pay the staff more money thing is nothing but ego. Just because you have more money doesn't mean they are worth it.... it's inflation just because. Now if we spent it on people who were worth it ok.... I digress

bulldawg28
01-17-2020, 11:23 PM
T-buck was/is a great coach! Most of you seem to have forgotten how bad corner play was. They were either constantly being beat with deep passes or playing off allowing guys to catch everything in front of them and just pushing them out of bounds. It was prevent defense bad.

Jarius
01-17-2020, 11:25 PM
T-buck was/is a great coach! Most of you seem to have forgotten how bad corner play was. They were either constantly being beat with deep passes or playing off allowing guys to catch everything in front of them and just pushing them out of bounds. It was prevent defense bad.

That was the result of our defensive coordinator's scheme and decisions. Our db coaches do not decide when to press and when to play off.

Homedawg
01-17-2020, 11:27 PM
T-buck was/is a great coach! Most of you seem to have forgotten how bad corner play was. They were either constantly being beat with deep passes or playing off allowing guys to catch everything in front of them and just pushing them out of bounds. It was prevent defense bad.

Tbuck wasn't /isn't a great coach. Wasn't/Isn't a great recruiter. Was a great player though

timotheus
01-17-2020, 11:35 PM
He can continue on so he can have guaranteed retirement in MS. Other than that, nobody will notice.

RezDog7
01-17-2020, 11:43 PM
Our best pass defense the last several years was the dropped pass. Because receivers were usually wide ass open.

Dawgcap
01-18-2020, 12:15 AM
Hell I want a d coordinator who has a plan in place and a staff in mind. This tells me we have a d coordinator ready to be hired and a staff he trusts to bring with him. We will be fine.

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 05:53 AM
That was the result of our defensive coordinator's scheme and decisions. Our db coaches do not decide when to press and when to play off.

That's not the result of a play called or strategy that's a mentality. Allowing people to catch everything without contesting is a head game. No defense is called that allows for free yards.

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 05:55 AM
Hell I want a d coordinator who has a plan in place and a staff in mind. This tells me we have a d coordinator ready to be hired and a staff he trusts to bring with him. We will be fine.

Not true. Leach told all coaches to look for jobs and if they were not hired he'd interview them later.

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 05:57 AM
Tbuck wasn't /isn't a great coach. Wasn't/Isn't a great recruiter. Was a great player though

I disagree regarding coaching. Coaches do not turn players into super stars they bring out what you already have. You're acting like we sign LSU and Bama DB's annually.

Jarius
01-18-2020, 07:38 AM
That's not the result of a play called or strategy that's a mentality. Allowing people to catch everything without contesting is a head game. No defense is called that allows for free yards.

Um our coordinator determines where everyone on our defense plays. If he does not like the way someone is lined up he will tell the coach to fix it. The db coach does not have autonomy to tell his players where to line up. That's why our corners looked like dog shit when Peter Sirmon was our coach and they looked outstanding the next year when Grantham came in. Buckley didn't change shit. The coordinator in 17 just knew what he was doing.

MagicDawg
01-18-2020, 09:14 AM
It's great that we have a loyalist (?) on their staff. He can sabotage and disrupt when necessary.

Let them have the media. We'll own their coaches.

Van. Kermit. T-Buck. Let's get some strategy behind this and we'll be set.

/mostlysarcasm

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 12:16 PM
Um our coordinator determines where everyone on our defense plays. If he does not like the way someone is lined up he will tell the coach to fix it. The db coach does not have autonomy to tell his players where to line up. That's why our corners looked like dog shit when Peter Sirmon was our coach and they looked outstanding the next year when Grantham came in. Buckley didn't change shit. The coordinator in 17 just knew what he was doing.

I don't care where a DB is lined up at press or off man it's a mentality. Coaches develop toughness, grit, skillset, and mentality. T-buck developed what he had and it was better than the other DB coaches before him under Mullen.

Jarius
01-18-2020, 12:46 PM
I don't care where a DB is lined up at press or off man it's a mentality. Coaches develop toughness, grit, skillset, and mentality. T-buck developed what he had and it was better than the other DB coaches before him under Mullen.

His players were as good as his defensive coordinator and his talent accumulated were. The reason we had to start a bunch of freshmen this year was because he was extremely inconsistent as a recruiter and had about 5 decommits. He's not a special coach. That's why when he tried to go to Florida State the past 3 years he could not get hired and why when Dan Mullen left he did not take him with him. It's also why he just joined the staff of the second worst SEC West program in the division. Our head coach does not think he's a very good coach and does not want him. Period.

CadaverDawg
01-18-2020, 01:00 PM
His players were as good as his defensive coordinator and his talent accumulated were. The reason we had to start a bunch of freshmen this year was because he was extremely inconsistent as a recruiter and had about 5 decommits. He's not a special coach. That's why when he tried to go to Florida State the past 3 years he could not get hired and why when Dan Mullen left he did not take him with him. It's also why he just joined the staff of the second worst SEC West program in the division. Our head coach does not think he's a very good coach and does not want him. Period.

Boom. This.

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 01:37 PM
His players were as good as his defensive coordinator and his talent accumulated were. The reason we had to start a bunch of freshmen this year was because he was extremely inconsistent as a recruiter and had about 5 decommits. He's not a special coach. That's why when he tried to go to Florida State the past 3 years he could not get hired and why when Dan Mullen left he did not take him with him. It's also why he just joined the staff of the second worst SEC West program in the division. Our head coach does not think he's a very good coach and does not want him. Period.

BS... here could have left several times and could have gone to Florida. You have no clue how recruiting works or football for that matter. Leach doesn't know any coach on the team so I could give two cents about that. If you'll check his track record he doesn't know much about any defensive staffers. He's had a revolving door on that side of the ball. Why wouldn't he bring his DC from Washington state if he's such a genius? He seems to be bringing the majority of his offensive staff. The dude doesn't do defense well. Period

Todd4State
01-18-2020, 01:44 PM
BS... here could have left several times and could have gone to Florida. You have no clue how recruiting works or football for that matter. Leach doesn't know any coach on the team so I could give two cents about that. If you'll check his track record he doesn't know much about any defensive staffers. He's had a revolving door on that side of the ball. Why wouldn't he bring his DC from Washington state if he's such a genius? He seems to be bringing the majority of his offensive staff. The dude doesn't do defense well. Period

Leach fired his DC last year and is bringing in McBath who Leach named the interim DC.

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 01:50 PM
Leach fired his DC last year and is bringing in McBath who Leach named the interim DC.

So why isn't McBath his DC here? Since Leach has been a head coach he's had a new DC almost every 3 years. If you include McBath that decreases that average

CadaverDawg
01-18-2020, 01:52 PM
So why isn't McBath his DC here? Since Leach has been a head coach he's had a new DC almost every 3 years. If you include McBath that decreases that average

Now do our DC's

Jarius
01-18-2020, 01:56 PM
BS... here could have left several times and could have gone to Florida. You have no clue how recruiting works or football for that matter. Leach doesn't know any coach on the team so I could give two cents about that. If you'll check his track record he doesn't know much about any defensive staffers. He's had a revolving door on that side of the ball. Why wouldn't he bring his DC from Washington state if he's such a genius? He seems to be bringing the majority of his offensive staff. The dude doesn't do defense well. Period

Terrell Buckley has tried to go to Florida State for the past 3 years and would have crawled to Florida. You have no idea what you are talking about. He has a bigger budget to hire better defensive coaches so he went and hired a better DC. That's how coaching in big boy football works. When you are coaching at a shit hole like Washington State you take what you can get. When you land an sec gig with twice the budget you hire better coaches.

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 02:41 PM
Terrell Buckley has tried to go to Florida State for the past 3 years and would have crawled to Florida. You have no idea what you are talking about. He has a bigger budget to hire better defensive coaches so he went and hired a better DC. That's how coaching in big boy football works. When you are coaching at a shit hole like Washington State you take what you can get. When you land an sec gig with twice the budget you hire better coaches.

Whatever you say "insider".

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 02:42 PM
Now do our DC's

It's the same terrible situation.

Jarius
01-18-2020, 02:49 PM
Whatever you say "insider".

You can go tell Paul Jones he does not know how recruiting works and that Buckley has not tried to go for the past 3 years as well if you'd like. I'm sure you are way more connected than he is.

Todd4State
01-18-2020, 02:49 PM
So why isn't McBath his DC here? Since Leach has been a head coach he's had a new DC almost every 3 years. If you include McBath that decreases that average

Arguing just to argue? Not surprised.** If you can't figure out that McBath was simply the interim and was never intended to be the full time DC or that guys like Alex Grinch are never going to stay at Wazzu when Oklahoma or Ohio State come calling no one can help you. What you just said is just like asking why Dan didn't Deshea Townsend as the DC after the 2014 Orange Bowl or why Cohen didn't just promote Greg Knox to head coach after the Gator Bowl a couple of years ago.

Three years is probably about the average for most assistant coaches at any program in today's football culture as it is. So that doesn't really stand out to me especially when you consider that guys like Dave Aranda stayed at LSU for four years despite being the highest paid coordinator in the country. I'm pretty sure the average for Dan's DC's was much lower than three when he was here.

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 03:04 PM
You can go tell Paul Jones he does not know how recruiting works and that Buckley has not tried to go for the past 3 years as well if you'd like. I'm sure you are way more connected than he is.

Lol...so you're regurgitating 2nd and 3rd party information. Makes sense, carry on.

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 03:08 PM
Arguing just to argue? Not surprised.** If you can't figure out that McBath was simply the interim and was never intended to be the full time DC or that guys like Alex Grinch are never going to stay at Wazzu when Oklahoma or Ohio State come calling no one can help you. What you just said is just like asking why Dan didn't Deshea Townsend as the DC after the 2014 Orange Bowl or why Cohen didn't just promote Greg Knox to head coach after the Gator Bowl a couple of years ago.

Three years is probably about the average for most assistant coaches at any program in today's football culture as it is. So that doesn't really stand out to me especially when you consider that guys like Dave Aranda stayed at LSU for four years despite being the highest paid coordinator in the country. I'm pretty sure the average for Dan's DC's was much lower than three when he was here.

Sherlock I wasn't talking to you. You interjected the moot point that he's bringing "1" defensive coach as if that proved a point. Three years isn't about average for successful to elite programs. That includes from the high school to the NFL level.

Jarius
01-18-2020, 03:18 PM
Lol...so you're regurgitating 2nd and 3rd party information. Makes sense, carry on.

So what are you regurgitating saying he wasn't looking to leave? Unless it's from Buckley's mouth you have no idea where he could have went. My information comes from a credible reporter. Where is yours coming from?

Todd4State
01-18-2020, 03:19 PM
Sherlock I wasn't talking to you. You interjected the moot point that he's bringing "1" defensive coach as if that proved a point. Three years isn't about average for successful to elite programs. That includes from the high school to the NFL level.

Well you responded to my post so typically that's an indication that you were talking to me.

But keep up with your terrible point. Just running your mouth to run it no matter how dumb you sound so you can say that you "got the last word in".

Todd4State
01-18-2020, 03:20 PM
So what are you regurgitating saying he wasn't looking to leave? Unless it's from Buckley's mouth you have no idea where he could have went. My information comes from a credible reporter. Where is yours coming from?

Especially since it was documented that he interviewed at FSU around the time Marve was hired. Which was before Leach was even hired.

I'm sure bulldog28 has some brilliant response to counter you though.

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 03:38 PM
So what are you regurgitating saying he wasn't looking to leave? Unless it's from Buckley's mouth you have no idea where he could have went. My information comes from a credible reporter. Where is yours coming from?

Buckley

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 03:40 PM
Well you responded to my post so typically that's an indication that you were talking to me.

But keep up with your terrible point. Just running your mouth to run it no matter how dumb you sound so you can say that you "got the last word in".

Keep up the post count buddy obviously that's your motivation. If I were talking to you I would have quoted you.

Jarius
01-18-2020, 03:42 PM
Buckley

So Terrell Buckley told you that he has never interviewed for the Florida State position?
1.) That's not true.
2.) That explains why you want to retain him

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 03:57 PM
So Terrell Buckley told you that he has never interviewed for the Florida State position?
1.) That's not true.
2.) That explains why you want to retain him

Did I say he never interviewed? I said he's had opportunities to leave.

Jarius
01-18-2020, 04:07 PM
Did I say he never interviewed? I said he's had opportunities to leave.

He's never had the opportunity to go to Florida state. He has had plenty of opportunities for a lateral move like Ole Miss. if he were anyone we needed to worry about losing he would have wound up somewhere much more relevant than Ole Miss.

bulldawg28
01-18-2020, 04:14 PM
He's never had the opportunity to go to Florida state. He has had plenty of opportunities for a lateral move like Ole Miss. if he were anyone we needed to worry about losing he would have wound up somewhere much more relevant than Ole Miss.

Whatever you say. Keep up the good work hoss!

OLJWales
01-18-2020, 04:21 PM
Leach fired his DC last year and is bringing in McBath who Leach named the interim DC.

I thought we were going with the NAVY DC.

Really Clark?
01-18-2020, 04:24 PM
Not getting in the big debate but from what I understand Buckley did have a chance to go to Texas A & M and turned that down. He has tried to go to FSU multiple times.

Todd4State
01-18-2020, 04:25 PM
Keep up the post count buddy obviously that's your motivation. If I were talking to you I would have quoted you.

You did quote me. That's why I responded to you.

Dogbone
01-18-2020, 04:25 PM
So is Newberry coming?

Commercecomet24
01-18-2020, 04:32 PM
I thought we were going with the NAVY DC.

McBath will be the DB coach