MSU @ Alabama Basketball Thread

[Lord McBuckethead]

Lets get one dawgs.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well we have had 4 bad offensive posessions. Our of 7.

[KOdawg1]

Nick W has some Lamar Peters in him. Just give him time and he'll self-destruct. Not as bad as Lamar, but it's there.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Tied at 5 early. Offense doesn't look like they know what to do. Not sure what our focus is.

[Lord McBuckethead]

It looks like Nick is playing a 1 man game out there. They have to figure out how to move without the ball and leverage an advantage

[Lord McBuckethead]

7-5 bama.

[Lord McBuckethead]

10-5. 8_0 run by bama.
Last 8 posessions 0-6 with 2 turnovers.

Get the 17 up dawgs.

[Lord McBuckethead]

10-0 run with a free throw 3pt play

[msstate7]

This team is so frustrating

[Turfdawg67]

Anybody know who Bert Stare said would win??

[Lord McBuckethead]

Perry with a man play. And 1.

[Cooterpoot]

This team is soft as baby shit and coached by a worn out coach.

[CJDAWG85]

We are about to get run out of the gym by a 7-6 Bama team... I can't stop laughing at this shit. Every year same shit... Everyone tries to be the superstar.

[dawgday166]

Nick W has some Lamar Peters in him. Just give him time and he'll self-destruct. Not as bad as Lamar, but it's there.

A lot of Lamar Peters in him.

[Turfdawg67]

This team is soft as baby shit and coached by a worn out coach.

I'm guessing you haven't actually heard a cooter poot in a long, long time.

[LoneStarDawg]

Foul fest right now!

[RougeDawg]

Ado?s hands have not gotten any stronger since he arrived on campus. Sad.

[MoreCowbell]

This team has sooooo much potential but I am afraid Howland rode NBA all star talent to those final 4s. He is an excellent recruiter not a good coach or motivator AT ALL

[OLJWales]

How long has Howland been here? Has he ever beaten a tourney team? (At MSU)

[dawgday166]

This team has sooooo much potential but I am afraid Howland rode NBA all star talent to those final 4s. He is an excellent recruiter not a good coach or motivator AT ALL

If I recall correctly his UCLA squads had fewer recruiting stars than you would think. I believe Westbrook was a 3* outta HS. That's one of several reason I thought he was a homerun hire.

[MoreCowbell]

If I recall correctly his UCLA squads had fewer recruiting stars than you would think. I believe Westbrook was a 3* outta HS. That's one of several reason I thought he was a homerun hire.

It was still NBA all-pro, all star level talent in Westbrook and Love. it is just ugly basketball. We should be dominating this Alabama team with the Talent we have

[Lord McBuckethead]

Fight8ng back. 24-25

[OLJWales]

(2) 5*'s and (3) 4*'s on the starting 5 alone and we can't dominate a 7-6 Bamer team. Pathetic. well great, we finally gotta 1 point lead. We are NOT playing a good team, somebody needs to light a fire under someone's ass and make them understand that.

[Lord McBuckethead]

28-27 dawgs

[dawgday166]

It was still NBA all-pro, all star level talent in Westbrook and Love. it is just ugly basketball. We should be dominating this Alabama team with the Talent we have

Not arguing we should be dominating Bama. And no matter what anyone says, we should've taken AU to the cleaners.

[Lord McBuckethead]

1 minute later. 35-30 bama

[MaroonFlounder]

Just ignore the guy shooting 50% from 3, gotdammit

[MoreCowbell]

Not arguing we should be dominating Bama. And no matter what anyone says, we should've taken AU to the cleaners.

Agree we actually matched up well with AU just did not exploit it/execute it

[OLJWales]

Wow, how low can we go? pathetic

[msstate7]

I hate this team

[Lord McBuckethead]

Down 10. Was tied 2 minutes ago. Howland terribly managed the end of the half. They scored 12 wide open pts.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Ww literally took a wide open 2 pt attempt 1 half step in front of the 3pt line. That is being completely retarded.

[dawgday166]

I hate this team

I can't disagree. Howland has chance to win SEC this year with this much talent. I haven't watched everyone in SEC but I figure he should be top 3 at worst in SEC this year looking at rankings/standings.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Down 8 at half. Can we get a guy in that can talk about offensive scheme.

[LC Dawg]

We have so many lazy plays. On offense and defense.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I hate this team

Me too dude. It is a chore to watch. Much like Moorhead. Like my give a shit about mens hoops is so low till the tourney. Its sad bc we made it a year ago but lost to hugh freeze high school

[LoneStarDawg]

Feels like we are down more than 8! Pathetic end of half!

[OLJWales]

If sports God asked if I wanted an automatic back to Madison Square Garden, I'd be tempted to take it.

[RougeDawg]

Another stretch of braindead play.

Was Tyson even aware of the clock on that last possession? Just lazily bringing it up the court with 14 seconds left. Holy shit we show 0.00000 urgency.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Like, what are we trying to do on offense? Can someone explain it to me? Why does it take us 20 seconds to move the ball to our 3pt line.

If a team plays a soft full court defnese on us, we cannot run our offense.

[MaroonFlounder]

BEN WILL do nothing with this team, and then Reggie leaves, it will be worse than what Moorhead did.

[Turfdawg67]

I can't disagree. Howland has chance to win SEC this year with this much talent. I haven't watched everyone in SEC but I figure he should be top 3 at worst in SEC this year looking at rankings/standings.

Yeah, but he hates all things Missississippi State, so...

[MarketingBully]

Why are you guys watching? It’s much better to just wait for baseball season. I’m apathetic until Howland retires. It’s literally the same shit every year.

[MaroonFlounder]

Why are you guys watching? It’s much better to just wait for baseball season. I’m apathetic until Howland retires. It’s literally the same shit every year.

The best b-ball coach in that building is sitting over at the MSU radio table....

[CJDAWG85]

All i can say is.. You better win tonight with @LSU, Mizzou, UGA and Arky coming up. Could easily be staring 1-6 in the face.

[CadaverDawg]

I don't even watch anymore. I'm a Leach announcement from only watching baseball at this point.

[OLJWales]

What a 17ing waste of talent. I'd rather be scraping and clawing for that extra inch with less talent than this pathetic shit show. Don't believe me? wait till the former MSU guy in Oxfart whips our asses twice this year. Maybe then the clown show will have some scrutiny.

[dawgday166]

Yeah, but he hates all things Missississippi State, so...

Turf ... not gonna get in middle of y'alls love-fest. But I'll say this ... 7 calls it square and takes his maroon glasses off while doing so. I pay attention to his sports takes more than I do most folks.

[KOdawg1]

Not even 30 seconds into the 2nd half and we have 2 turnovers

[Turfdawg67]

Nice start of the 2nd half.

[KOdawg1]

This team is so damn hard to watch. It's physically taxing. It's gotten to the point that I dread finding out we have a game bc the maroon in me won't let me not watch it, but it sucks

[CJDAWG85]

I've never seen a team miss so many shots around the basket. I mean we are so ****ing terrible at all aspects of the game.

[RougeDawg]

Carter needs to sit. He is shooting horribly.

[MaroonFlounder]

Blowout loss in T-Town

[Turfdawg67]

Not even 30 seconds into the 2nd half and we have 2 turnovers

Unforced and dumb. I know where all this venom comes from now. So much easier getting updates on ESPN than watching this shit show.

[KOdawg1]

Do you guys think we can move the Alabama state line west about 40 miles and consolidate the universities so that my life would be easier?

[LoneStarDawg]

My 10 year old just walked out of room and said ?we?re terrible!? I told him believe it or not there was a time before you were born basketball was fun!

[dawgday166]

Do you guys think we can move the Alabama state line west about 40 miles and consolidate the universities so that my life would be easier?

LOL ... shit I'm about ready to do something!! Just hadn't figured out what that something is ***

[MarketingBully]

Unforced and dumb. I know where all this venom comes from now. So much easier getting updates on ESPN than watching this shit show.

Yep. I stopped watching after the shitty NMSU game. This team is only worthy of watching ESPN updates.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Look, we have all the talent in the world right now. No one on the offensive side knows what to do. No one. I just do not like our scheme. Hell I can't even figure it out. Carter tentative on his shot. No one penetrates and kicks. No on works the pick and roll. Hell we can't even screen and jack a three.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Nick has disrupted our offense. He should be driving and dishing. He should look to do that every possession.

[Liverpooldawg]

I can't disagree. Howland has chance to win SEC this year with this much talent. I haven't watched everyone in SEC but I figure he should be top 3 at worst in SEC this year looking at rankings/standings.

There is ZERO chance of that. This team isn't that good.

[Turfdawg67]

Yep. I stopped watching after the shitty NMSU game. This team is only worthy of watching ESPN updates.

I'll say it for you bro... This team sucks monkey balls!

[OLJWales]

Time for Howland and his lovely wife to take the millions he's made here and put a nice down payment on a home in SOCAL. Thanks for giving us hope Howland, doesn't happen very often we get a HC with a resume like yours. I'm sure you are waiting on getting back there, right? Can you at least give us a reach around and bolt?

[Turfdawg67]

Talent wise? Then we should shut down Bball. This is the best we'll have for a long time.

[dawgday166]

There is ZERO chance of that. This team isn't that good.

As a team ... no. But talent wise and the way the SEC is down, we should be up there. But you right on this there's zero chance of that happening.

[parabrave]

Nick see what happens when you drive.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Lazy shot by carter. Lazy defense by carter.

[OLJWales]

we are playing a team that is 7-6 ---0-1

[CJDAWG85]

Tyson Carter takes the furthest 2 point shot you can possible take... His new nickname is Mojo Killer.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Drive and dish. Then drive and layup. He should be attacking every possession. Dish to ado and perry, and kick to woodard and Carter. It isn't that hard.

[BigEasyDawg]

We set more screens that do not even touch the defender than anyone else in the country.

[bobtail bob]

Drive the dam ball. The foul count will be our friend in this game

[parabrave]

Lazy shot by carter. Lazy defense by carter.

Bout to say the same. Ty well help this team more by passing the ball instead of chunking up bricks.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Its 6pt bama right now, but they score every baseline inbounds play. 4 fouls on this possession. Shit.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Perry has 4 fouls. Ado has to step up.

[parabrave]

Whats really a pisser is Ado was starting to do really good on the offense and they won't even try to get gim the ball the last few games.

[RougeDawg]

Time for Howland and his lovely wife to take the millions he's made here and put a nice down payment on a home in SOCAL. Thanks for giving us hope Howland, doesn't happen very often we get a HC with a resume like yours. I'm sure you are waiting on getting back there, right? Can you at least give us a reach around and bolt?

Not until JC is gone. We can not afford another shitshow coaching search.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Ballgame.

[MoreCowbell]

I can't disagree. Howland has chance to win SEC this year with this much talent. I haven't watched everyone in SEC but I figure he should be top 3 at worst in SEC this year looking at rankings/standings.

Yeah, really disappointed so far. This is most talented team since Jamont/Rhodes/Delks and this team probably more talented. Hoping it is just us figuring out rhythm with Witherspoon back and we turn it on towards the end but nothing I have seen gives me confidence in Howland.

[MoreCowbell]

I don't even watch anymore. I'm a Leach announcement from only watching baseball at this point.

lol

[Lord McBuckethead]

I mean, there are 9 minutes left, but its over. Down 14. I am tired of our teams having 17n talent and plays week in and out like shit.

I just can't take it anymore. All of our players are good. All 5 of them. Individually. They suck as a team.

[CJDAWG85]

We are getting run out of the gym by a garbage basketball team.. That's hilarious.

[msstate7]

This team is so predictable. Fall behind 8-12, cut lead to 2-5, fall behind 8-12, cut lead to 2-5, etc. This team can't execute 40 mins, and they're done. Bring on baseball

[Cloak]

It seems like we should be good, but man we look so bad

[OLJWales]

this 7-6 , 0-1 team is about to kick the dog shit out of us. But we fought hard against Nova though, right?

[bobtail bob]

This team has way too many lulls in scoring. We are going to get murdered down the stretch in the SEC

[R2Dawg]

Yeah, really disappointed so far. This is most talented team since Jamont/Rhodes/Delks and this team probably more talented. Hoping it is just us figuring out rhythm with Witherspoon back and we turn it on towards the end but nothing I have seen gives me confidence in Howland.

Agree on talent. I say most talented since Bowers, Zimmerman days but we just don't have it together for whatever reason. I think the early season drain on Carter has killed him and no he is mentally affected and killing our team.

As a team we have too many lazy or disengaged plays, bad decisions, etc. If something don't change soon, our season will be done and Perry and others will start to play for theirself.

I still like our team but I am disgusted with how we have played lately.

[dawgday166]

this 7-6 , 0-1 team is about to kick the dog shit out of us. But we fought hard against Nova though, right?

I saw a LOT better team chemistry that day. They played hard-nosed D, shared the ball, and seemed to enjoy playing together. Chemistry sucks now. Everyone is an individual.

[OLJWales]

I'm just wondering if we can make is less embarrassing at this point. I mean , at least make it look like you have top 70 talent or something.

[dawgday166]

And I should've added in previous post .. we definitely ain't a tough team. Vic may be only coach on campus that can coach a team to be tough.

[OLJWales]

I saw a LOT better team chemistry that day. They played hard-nosed D, shared the ball, and seemed to enjoy playing together. Chemistry sucks now. Everyone is an individual.

Because our coach doesn't give a shit and it rubs off on the players. He's ready to get back to So-Cal and those fancy restaurants. Can't say I blame him for wanting to get back home but he should not have 17'd us over just to enrich his retirement. And that's exactly what he did and he knew it all along.

[parabrave]

Well that should about do it. Now lets see how many 3s Ty can chunk up.

[CJDAWG85]

That was a cheap foul on Perry to foul out.

[MarketingBully]

Howland’s press conference is predictable too. He’s a fuddy duddy old fart who’s let the game pass him by.

[MaroonFlounder]

How does Howland get an absolute pass? He's so bad at this point in his career.

[Captain Falcon]

I saw a LOT better team chemistry that day. They played hard-nosed D, shared the ball, and seemed to enjoy playing together. Chemistry sucks now. Everyone is an individual.

No, that one weekend in Myrtle Beach was an outlier. We have not looked like a good basketball team for 80% of the season so far. Thank goodness we came back to beat Sam Houston and Radford or else we’d be 7-7 right now.

[OLJWales]

Cohen, I know you are busy, but, you know, there's another sport too that needs some attention.

[RougeDawg]

Carter does not need to play at all. He is killing us.

[MoreCowbell]

I dont want to talk 17 about our head coaching job but there is a reason a coach that went to 3 straight final 4s and won conference championships was unemployed until he accepted our job. He is baaaaad.

[dawgday166]

No, that one weekend in Myrtle Beach was an outlier. We have not looked like a good basketball team for 80% of the season so far. Thank goodness we came back to beat Sam Houston and Radford or else we’d be 7-7 right now.

Not arguing. Just saying what I saw that day. I've missed all the other games before N. Mex.

[Captain Falcon]

How does Howland get an absolute pass? He's so bad at this point in his career.

Because he’s better than Rick Ray. He’s done just enough to get by every year he’s been here so far, even though each of those teams should’ve been better than they were. This team may be the one where people really start to question him though. This group should not be getting boat raced by a bad Bama team in what is basically a must win game.

[RougeDawg]

Another sub 40% shooting game to an opponent shooting just under 50%. Cannot win against anyone that way.

[RougeDawg]

Nicks body language is the problem. This team has not played as a team since he came back.

[Turfdawg67]

Tyson misses wide open 3 and the man he's covering makes an easy layup. All in 5 seconds... LOL!

[OLJWales]

No, that one weekend in Myrtle Beach was an outlier. We have not looked like a good basketball team for 80% of the season so far. Thank goodness we came back to beat Sam Houston and Radford or else we’d be 7-7 right now.

We have not looked like a good basketball team for 80% of Howland's State TENURE. He has sucked the day he arrived other than crootin' off his name / resume.

**** this. ''

IYOK: What say you now? would love to have you back and give us your insight.

[Liverpooldawg]

Getting run out of the gym. I'm afraid this will happen quite a bit this year. This may not even be a NIT team.

[R2Dawg]

[QUOTE=CJDAWG85;1217377]That was a cheap foul on Perry to foul out.[/QUOTE

Perry had two BS fouls. They know what they are doing.

[msstate7]

I'm ready to see howland go while we have some pieces to work with.

[Cowbell]

I came over here just to see how underwhelming we are tonight. Anyone still supporting Howland needs to just give it up. Football was all I can handle for one year. On to baseball season and possibly two coaching searches at once if we keep up at this pace.

[parabrave]

Ben has done what he was brought here for. He has procured better talent and "saved" the program. However he has done about all he can and now it's time to get someone who can get this talent to higher levels.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Bunch of learning opportunities for the team tonight.

Only thing, we won't learn shit from this game. Just like we haven't in any other game for the past 4 years.

[OLJWales]

Was the guy at Ole Miss available when we hired Rick Ray?

[Liverpooldawg]

Nicks body language is the problem. This team has not played as a team since he came back.

We rarely did before he came back.

[R2Dawg]

Carter does not need to play at all. He is killing us.

Carter's confidence is in the tank right now. He needs to pull him back and limit shots until he gets his confidence back.

[LoneStarDawg]

As usual this time of year....Time to start thinking about baseball!

[parabrave]

Dam LSU is going to have their time with us next game.

[dawgday166]

Nicks body language is the problem. This team has not played as a team since he came back.

I was afraid that would happen cause I don't think he's a team player. He started out as a team player but something changed IMO. Everyone competing with each other for their own shot now.

[OLJWales]

Nothing will change with Howland running the show. It will continue until a change is made. If he has any moral integrity, he'll quit and not milk us any further.

Our fans and players deserve better leadership than this. Howland is making a fool out of MSU by padding his retirement and not giving a shit about MSU. He's bleeding us dry.

[parabrave]

Was the guy at Ole Miss available when we hired Rick Ray?

Ole Miss will probably gift wrap him for us about now. Dam that is going to be an ugly game when we play.

[CJDAWG85]

We may not want to show up for the LSU game. They are going to blow us out worse than this shit show. Shot 38% and 27% from 3. Bama shot 50% and 44% from 3. They made 10 to our 4 from 3.

[BuckyIsAB****]

This is why nobody gives a shit

[LC Dawg]

I'm done with this team. I may check back in a month to see if they're worth watching because I love basketball when we play well. I miss the hell out of it.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I mean, I love our guys but 17! They are not ready.

[Bothrops]

Richard Williams is the answer.

[MarketingBully]

Really torn here. I want Howland to go but Cohen?s coaching searches are dumpster fire level shit shows. I?m not trusting him to find a better basketball coach.

[TheLostDawg]

Really torn here. I want Howland to go but Cohen?s coaching searches are dumpster fire level shit shows. I?m not trusting him to find a better basketball coach.

I think this is why we are going to have to get Howland to get an offensive guy to come in and help out.

[parabrave]

One stat that kills me about Carter, 16 att Fgs versus 2 assists. He needs to have 10 or more assists for each game. Like CRW said the last 2 games that Perry and Woodard are the playmakers on this team and They need to get the ball.

[bobtail bob]

non stop ass rape of our athletic teams

[dawgday166]

Really torn here. I want Howland to go but Cohen?s coaching searches are dumpster fire level shit shows. I?m not trusting him to find a better basketball coach.

I thought same thing about if Howland really needed to go then dammit ... JC would be doing the search for a basketball coach. God help us!

[dawgday166]

One stat that kills me about Carter, 16 att Fgs versus 2 assists. He needs to have 10 or more assists for each game. Like CRW said the last 2 games that Perry and Woodard are the playmakers on this team and They need to get the ball.

Now not saying Carter's assists shouldn't be higher but 10/game is asking just a tad much. He and Nick both should average 10 to 12 or so. Nick should average 5+ per game.

[OLJWales]

"fill the hump guys, this team deserves our support!!"

[Irondawg]

Howland needs to stay for the recruiting but if anybody needs an OC, it's him. We're passable on the defense but we have one of the worst offensive game plans I've ever seen

[Lord McBuckethead]

Like I have watched basketball for 35 years. Never seen anything like it.

[Lord McBuckethead]

We never work the pick and roll of the screen, and we never actually use a slip screen. Bama used it on us, we were slow to rotate help defense, and then they kicked it out. Simple.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Also, if I watch Carter dribble and shoot 6 shots 6inches inside the 3 pt line...damn.

[Dawgology]

Smh

[maroonmania]

I just can't watch them anymore for an entire game. I am relegated now especially for road games to just check with about 5 minutes left in the 2nd half to see if we are still in the game. If the game is still within a few points I will watch the end. This team has talent but is so poorly coached.

[MoreCowbell]

Howland needs to stay for the recruiting but if anybody needs an OC, it's him. We're passable on the defense but we have one of the worst offensive game plans I've ever seen

This is the truth. Elitedawgs needs to campaign for a basketball OC and see if we get our way. Need Howland to be the face and recruit but get a guy in here who can instill a damn offense.