View Full Version : Brett McMurphy says Napier declines
ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 06:07 PM
Interesting....
Cohenz already striking out?
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ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 06:09 PM
I wonder if this is just a negotiation tactic?
ScoobaDawg
01-03-2020, 06:09 PM
I'll believe it when we announce someone else... What else is he supposed to say...if they are really trying to keep it under wraps till monday....
ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 06:11 PM
What in the world is Napier waiting on?
Does he think he's going to jump from ULL to a blue blood?
The media is basically making fun of us now
Am I supposed to believe he was interested in the OM job but not MSU when we have far more talent?
msstate7
01-03-2020, 06:12 PM
Welp, who's penn st's OC?
MetEdDawg
01-03-2020, 06:12 PM
Posturing to keep his players engaged for the bowl game I think
CoachT14
01-03-2020, 06:13 PM
Wouldn't surprise me one bit that Cohen's 17's this up royally. It took him a month too late too realize to can Joe.
ScoobaDawg
01-03-2020, 06:13 PM
What in the world is Napier waiting on?
Stop being bi-polar... chill dude.. don't believe everything that is said.. YOU all too well should know not to trust everything everyone says when playing the game of life decisions..
How about he's waiting to finish his record setting season at his present job... the right thing to do.
KOdawg1
01-03-2020, 06:14 PM
Declines right now. Let's see on Tuesday.
ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 06:14 PM
If this turns out to be true, I hope Napier loses 6 games next year
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msstate7
01-03-2020, 06:15 PM
If this is true, call up clawson and bring him to Starkville
maroonmania
01-03-2020, 06:15 PM
Stop being bi-polar... chill dude.. don't believe everything that is said.. YOU all too well should know not to trust everything everyone says when playing the game of life decisions..
How about he's waiting to finish his record setting season at his present job... the right thing to do.
If so, why would Napier need to comment at all?
ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 06:16 PM
Stop being bi-polar... chill dude.. don't believe everything that is said.. YOU all too well should know not to trust everything everyone says when playing the game of life decisions..
How about he's waiting to finish his record setting season at his present job... the right thing to do.
Bi-polar? Excuse me?
Don't be stupid. No reason to pick a fight for the hell of it
Stop being bi-polar... chill dude.. don't believe everything that is said.. YOU all too well should know not to trust everything everyone says when playing the game of life decisions..
How about he's waiting to finish his record setting season at his present job... the right thing to do.
Yep, he's likely pullin' a "Saban"...
Coach34
01-03-2020, 06:16 PM
Damn- can we get a post from Bert??? I was told he nailed it
OLJWales
01-03-2020, 06:17 PM
Do they make pine boxes in south Louisiana?
Todd4State
01-03-2020, 06:20 PM
People that are presently employed in any profession are usually wise to deny interest in other jobs publicly.
sandjunky
01-03-2020, 06:20 PM
Well Cohen did say this person would have a passion for HailState
msstate7
01-03-2020, 06:21 PM
Well Cohen did say this person would have a passion for HailState
You calling Hud? Judge?
Bubb Rubb
01-03-2020, 06:22 PM
People that are presently employed in any profession are usually wise to deny interest in other jobs publicly.
There's a difference in denying interest thru coach speak and outright saying you have declined an offer.
Commercecomet24
01-03-2020, 06:24 PM
Damn- can we get a post from Bert??? I was told he nailed it
He just posted in the other thread. Said Napier's still the man.
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-03-2020, 06:28 PM
Guys:
1) Mcmurphy said "source", not "Napier himself", so stop acting like Napier told an outright lie to a reporter if he does wind up here.
2) literally anything other than "I'm not taking that job" is 100% going to be read as "I am taking that job". If you asked Mullen in '14 "Hey are you looking at X job?" And he said LITERALLY ANYTHING OTHER THAN "NO", you'd immediately assume he was.
3) if he turned us down it's obviously because our offer was too low- our flirtmance has gone on way too long for him to just generally not be interested at all. That means theres time for boosters to look around, decide Napier really is worth more than the offer he turned down, and counter offer with more.
ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 06:33 PM
Paul Jones just made an interesting comment on Genespage.
He said that usually when a candidate comes out & says they have declined the job it means that a hire has already been made. Not usually, but most of the time.
Assuming that Paul knows more than us, I find this interesting
WinningIsRelentless
01-03-2020, 06:34 PM
I?ve told y?all it was Grantham.
Maroonthirteen
01-03-2020, 06:34 PM
Supposedly he told OM and Arkansas, he wasn't interested in any other until after his bowl game. Therefore OM and Ark moved on. So..... there ya go
ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 06:42 PM
We're still negotiating with Napier. He wants more money.
The media is going to be wild on this hire because we're the only game in town right now.
TrapGame
01-03-2020, 06:45 PM
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timotheus
01-03-2020, 06:48 PM
pay him 4 mil and about 5.5 for staff and have a press conference tuesday.
ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 06:49 PM
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hacker
01-03-2020, 06:49 PM
I?ve told y?all it was Grantham.
Then why are we waiting?
ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 06:51 PM
pay him 4 mil and about 5.5 for staff and have a press conference tuesday.
Everybody has a price. If you think he's the right guy, you pay him what it takes
yjnkdawg
01-03-2020, 07:17 PM
Several possibilities here and only McMurphy reporting this . I doubt that Napier even made a comment concerning an offer. It could be his agent wanting to get him more money, he doesn't want any distractions for the bowl game, or the deal is already done. You offer him less than $4 million and what McMurphy said could be true.
ScoobaDawg
01-03-2020, 07:18 PM
If this turns out to be true, I hope Napier loses 6 games next year
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Stop... Linking to that shitty rebel troll site....
Turfdawg67
01-03-2020, 07:25 PM
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What a cluster f***. Hud it is, I guess. SMH.
Cloak
01-03-2020, 07:30 PM
Why isn't Les Miles being mentioned?
Liverpooldawg
01-03-2020, 07:30 PM
If we didn't have anyone lined up, with the timing of the firing, Cohen needs to go. I'll hold my fire till we see how it works out.
WinningIsRelentless
01-03-2020, 07:33 PM
Then why are we waiting?
Looks bad to fire a coach and hire one the same day.
thedawginme
01-03-2020, 07:37 PM
Interesting....
Cohenz already striking out?
Did you just reply to your own post, again?
maroonmania
01-03-2020, 07:37 PM
Supposedly he told OM and Arkansas, he wasn't interested in any other until after his bowl game. Therefore OM and Ark moved on. So..... there ya go
Apparently this Lending Tree Bowl means a lot more to Napier than it does most everyone else.
Turfdawg67
01-03-2020, 07:45 PM
Why isn't Les Miles being mentioned?
Because "OK State Les" is long, long gone. Hell, I'd become a fan of his former school if he was hired.
RougeDawg
01-03-2020, 07:46 PM
I wonder if this is just a negotiation tactic?
Listen to this. Be patient. He already stated that he would not entertain any openings until after their bowl game.
Let?s just enjoy getting rid of sloppy joe. The Cajun will be in Starkville next week.
Now let?s root on our basketball team tomorrow. Apparently Vegas thinks the game will be close. Hope we finally play a complete game.
dantheman4248
01-03-2020, 07:46 PM
Apparently this Lending Tree Bowl means a lot more to Napier than it does most everyone else.
Apparently this Egg Bowl / Orange Bowl / Gator Bowl ('17 specifically) means a lot less to Mullen than it does most everyone else.
RougeDawg
01-03-2020, 07:48 PM
He just posted in the other thread. Said Napier's still the man.
This. Wait til Tuesday. Enjoy the weekend and new year without sloppy joe.
RougeDawg
01-03-2020, 07:49 PM
Do they make pine boxes in south Louisiana?
Cypress.
Commercecomet24
01-03-2020, 07:51 PM
This. Wait til Tuesday. Enjoy the weekend and new year without sloppy joe.
I'm enjoying it all now that joes gone! Things are definitely looking good!
Coach34
01-03-2020, 07:52 PM
Napier wants $4MM- Cohen squeezing at $3.2MM. He is making us open the wallet.
BeardoMSU
01-03-2020, 07:52 PM
Cypress.
Lol, nice.
And they come lined with the finest Nutria furs**
hacker
01-03-2020, 07:54 PM
Napier wants $4MM- Cohen squeezing at $3.2MM. He is making us open the wallet.
smh
Coursesuper
01-03-2020, 07:55 PM
Napier wants $4MM- Cohen squeezing at $3.2MM. He is making us open the wallet.
Typical.
Commercecomet24
01-03-2020, 07:56 PM
Napier wants $4MM- Cohen squeezing at $3.2MM. He is making us open the wallet.
He better not blow this. It's all on him now.
ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 07:56 PM
Napier wants $4MM- Cohen squeezing at $3.2MM. He is making us open the wallet.
If we offer him 4 mil now, he'll ask for 5.
So long as we don't lose Napier I'm cool with Cohen negotiating.
Commercecomet24
01-03-2020, 07:57 PM
Typical.
Isn't it though? We have a coaching candidate who is serious about winning and we're trying to low ball. Geez Cohen
Rex54
01-03-2020, 08:03 PM
Napier wants $4MM- Cohen squeezing at $3.2MM. He is making us open the wallet.
Probably could have had 3.2 on thanksgiving night.
KOdawg1
01-03-2020, 08:05 PM
ULL's 247 guy says it isn't over. Says something is up.
Irondawg
01-03-2020, 08:05 PM
With Napier we have the leverage - we're the big job calling with no other suitors. He can see what we do but at the end of the day it would be tough to turn down $3M plus a year to stay another year at ULL when he's about to lose a ton of seniors on offense. He'd be taking a big gamble that other big jobs will be interested next year.
The thing to keep in mind is that our FLOOR is Hud or Grantham and those are not terrible options. So Cohen isn't screwing up by not having a guy lined up when we fired Moorhead. That would have been true right after the Egg with the signing class in the balance, but now we can take our time. The only mistake that could be made was NOT firing Joe.
MetEdDawg
01-03-2020, 08:09 PM
Napier wants $4MM- Cohen squeezing at $3.2MM. He is making us open the wallet.
If we went after him around Egg Bowl time and backed out, I would be squeezing us too. Noncommittal is not a good look from us. So if he was ready then and we didn't pull the trigger and backed out, I would want additional financial guarantees as well.
Turfdawg67
01-03-2020, 08:09 PM
He better not blow this. It's all on him now.
Which one is blowing it? The guy making $875K being offered $3.2MM or Cohen with other options?
KOdawg1
01-03-2020, 08:10 PM
With Napier we have the leverage - we're the big job calling with no other suitors.
If the rumors of him being interested in Baylor and South Carolina jobs are true, we definitely do not have the leverage. Pay the man.
Cooterpoot
01-03-2020, 08:11 PM
Yeah, Napier ain't the be all end all kind of hire. I don't care we pay him or not.
BuckyIsAB****
01-03-2020, 08:13 PM
ULL's 247 guy says it isn't over. Says something is up.
Link? Whats his name
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-03-2020, 08:14 PM
Which one is blowing it? The guy making $875K being offered $3.2MM or Cohen with other options?
Who blows it bigger is insigificant, what matters to us in such a case is that we blew it on our end
ScoobaDawg
01-03-2020, 08:17 PM
Link? Whats his name
https://247sports.com/college/louisiana/board/1196810/Contents/billy-napier-agrees-to-contract-extension-through-2025-141508426/
Billy the staffer guy
KOdawg1
01-03-2020, 08:17 PM
https://247sports.com/college/louisiana/board/1196810/Contents/billy-napier-agrees-to-contract-extension-through-2025-141508426/
Link? Whats his name
Bill Embody; don't know if you'll be able to view it or not
OLJWales
01-03-2020, 08:18 PM
If the rumors of him being interested in Baylor and South Carolina jobs are true, we definitely do not have the leverage. Pay the man.
what's going on with the Baylor gig? didn't they have a jam up year? did he bolt? SC? didn't they beat UGA? is Muschamp gone or on the chopping block?
Hambone
01-03-2020, 08:18 PM
Y?all know good and well Cohen has ?floated? this info to Coach34 for him to run it by this board to gauge how much to pay Napier.....
BuckyIsAB****
01-03-2020, 08:20 PM
https://247sports.com/college/louisiana/board/1196810/Contents/billy-napier-agrees-to-contract-extension-through-2025-141508426/
Bill Embody; don't know if you'll be able to view it or not
That made me feel the best I have felt about him coming here since the Bert post. I was told Moorhead was gone Thurs night and Napier was the lead dawg but that means something in my eyes.
Coach34
01-03-2020, 08:22 PM
Y?all know good and well Cohen has ?floated? this info to Coach34 for him to run it by this board to gauge how much to pay Napier.....
Baby back Bitch
Coursesuper
01-03-2020, 08:22 PM
With Napier we have the leverage - we're the big job calling with no other suitors. He can see what we do but at the end of the day it would be tough to turn down $3M plus a year to stay another year at ULL when he's about to lose a ton of seniors on offense. He'd be taking a big gamble that other big jobs will be interested next year.
The thing to keep in mind is that our FLOOR is Hud or Grantham and those are not terrible options. So Cohen isn't screwing up by not having a guy lined up when we fired Moorhead. That would have been true right after the Egg with the signing class in the balance, but now we can take our time. The only mistake that could be made was NOT firing Joe.
Absolutely assbackwards. We lead this guy to the altar in November then jilt him in the 11th hour. Now we're back with our dick in our hand asking him if he will have us again. If I was him I'd ask for the 17ing moon and tell us the kiss my ass until we get right or he decides to wait for the next train to come in. He's happy sitting right where he is and has the luxury of waiting.
OSCAR
01-03-2020, 08:25 PM
Interesting....
Cohenz already striking out?
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He is expected to be a lead candidate for the Baylor job if it opens, which is likely.
Commercecomet24
01-03-2020, 08:26 PM
Absolutely assbackwards. We lead this guy to the altar in November then jilt him in the 11th hour. Now we're back with our dick in our hand asking him if he will have us again. If I was him I'd ask for the 17ing moon and tell us the kiss my ass until we get right or he decides to wait for the next train to come in. He's happy sitting right where he is and has the luxury of waiting.
This exactly. We have screwed this up since the beginning. We have to get this hire right it's imperative. Napier has the luxury of not having to jump on this unless he gets what he wants. If we don't give it to him Someone will next year
Commercecomet24
01-03-2020, 08:28 PM
Which one is blowing it? The guy making $875K being offered $3.2MM or Cohen with other options?
We've blown this since the beginning by not making the change after the Egg. It's imperative that we get this right. If we're not making the move cause of money then we're not serious about football
msstate7
01-03-2020, 08:30 PM
If he is considered the guy for Baylor if rhule leaves, he might just turn us down. Baylor is coming off a sugar bowl appearance in a weak conference in the Dallas area.
yjnkdawg
01-03-2020, 08:30 PM
what's going on with the Baylor gig? didn't they have a jam up year? did he bolt? SC? didn't they beat UGA? is Muschamp gone or on the chopping block?
Don't know about the situation at Baylor, but I heard Muschamp was still going to be there next year.
dawgday166
01-03-2020, 08:33 PM
We've blown this since the beginning by not making the change after the Egg. It's imperative that we get this right. If we're not making the move cause of money then we're not serious about football
Yep.
Coursesuper
01-03-2020, 08:33 PM
We've blown this since the beginning by not making the change after the Egg. It's imperative that we get this right. If we're not making the move cause of money then we're not serious about football
Some of these folks will never get it will they? The just can't wrap their grapes around the league we're playing in and what the rules are.
ShotgunDawg
01-03-2020, 08:34 PM
If he is considered the guy for Baylor if rhule leaves, he might just turn us down. Baylor is coming off a sugar bowl appearance in a weak conference in the Dallas area.
Baylor's advantage over us is a weak conference
yjnkdawg
01-03-2020, 08:35 PM
Which one is blowing it? The guy making $875K being offered $3.2MM or Cohen with other options?
The one who wanted to keep JoeMo on and I think his last name begins with a C.
BuckyIsAB****
01-03-2020, 08:37 PM
We've blown this since the beginning by not making the change after the Egg. It's imperative that we get this right. If we're not making the move cause of money then we're not serious about football
Cohen may be thinking the rest of the 800k or so (if 34s figures are right) are gonna be valuable for his DC. Not sure.
We need to get head man right first and Napier is the right guy IMO. The good thing is the fallback options aint bad. Grantham is a dawg and would take less money, which means more for his staff and Hud is a State lifer and would walk here. Just happens to be a pretty good coach himself
PGHBulldogBG
01-03-2020, 08:38 PM
I’m not sure why this is so difficult. Let’s just hire Hud and be done with all this
the_real_MSU_is_us
01-03-2020, 09:10 PM
I’m not sure why this is so difficult. Let’s just hire Hud and be done with all this
Lol hire who we think is the worse coach just so the fans dont have to wait 3 extra days? Seriously some of yall have no patience or foresight at all
MetEdDawg
01-03-2020, 09:15 PM
The one who wanted to keep JoeMo on and I think his last name begins with a C.
Freaking Cannizzaro
msstate7
01-03-2020, 09:17 PM
Could part of the hold up be the giants' opening? If Napier is interested in the Baylor job, he could be trying to wait for the giants. When is rhule expected to interview?
HancockCountyDog
01-03-2020, 10:26 PM
I?m not sure why this is so difficult. Let?s just hire Hud and be done with all this
Are you serious? HUD for head coach?
He better be down the damn list. In fact, there shouldn?t be a list. I?m going to believe it?s Napier until we hire someone else.
Hambone
01-03-2020, 10:30 PM
Awesome reply.
Go sell some coffee, Coach.
Anonymous
01-03-2020, 10:43 PM
Odd that McMurphy cited Stadium, who is owned by 24/7. Yet our 24/7 guys are contradicting that.
maroonmania
01-03-2020, 10:53 PM
Absolutely assbackwards. We lead this guy to the altar in November then jilt him in the 11th hour. Now we're back with our dick in our hand asking him if he will have us again. If I was him I'd ask for the 17ing moon and tell us the kiss my ass until we get right or he decides to wait for the next train to come in. He's happy sitting right where he is and has the luxury of waiting.
I find it hard to believe we told him we would definitely have a job opening even if we won the Egg Bowl and got a bowl bid. I would be willing to bet the Nov negotiations (what there were of them) were contingent on us having a losing record and thereby getting rid of Moorhead at that time.
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