2019 December Football Signing Day Thread - All updates here

[TheLostDawg]

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2020 Mississippi State Signees

DT Benjamin Key, East Los Angeles (Calif.) College (By way of Australia)
DB Javorrius Selmon, Provine HS
DE Jordan Davis, Copiah-Lincoln Community College
LB Rodney Groce Jr., Pleasant Grove (Ala.) HS
QB Will Rogers, Brandon HS
OL Calvin McMIlian, Houston HS
OL Grant Jackson, West Lincoln HS
RB Jo'Quavious Marks, Carver (Ga.) HS
DE Jevon Banks, Olive Branch HS
K Brandon Ruiz, Arizona State (transfer)
WR Malik Heath, Co-Lin CC
CB Emmanuel Forbes, Grenada HS
DE Tre Lawson, Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College (By way of Florida State)
LB Tyrus Wheat, Co-Lin CC
S Janari Dean, South Panola HS
WR Caleb Ducking, Holmes Community College
WR Jaden Walley, D'Iberville HS
RB Dillon Johnson, Greenville St. Joseph HS
DT Armondous Cooley, Wayne County
WR Lideatrick "Tulu" Griffin, Philadelphia HS
CB Decamerion Richardson, Bossier (La.) HS
CB Cameron Threatt Lewisburg HS

[KOdawg1]

First signee:

Ben Key - East Los Angeles College
6'5, 280 lbs. DT
3*

Offers: Oregon, Arizona, Utah

[Westdawg]

Oh snap! I was thinking he was some hybrid DE. that dude has some wheels for that size!

[defiantdog]

First signee:

Ben Key - East Los Angeles College
6'5, 280 lbs. DT
3*

Offers: Oregon, Arizona, Utah
I think he had a USC offer as well

[KOdawg1]

Will Rogers - Brandon High School
6'2, 200 lbs. QB
3*

Offers: Troy, Tulane, Washington St.

https://247sports.com/player/will-rogers-46052851/

[KOdawg1]

Javorrius Selmon - Provine High School
5'10, 170 lbs. CB
3*

Offers: Auburn, Florida, Louisville

https://247sports.com/player/javorrius-selmon-46053820/

[KOdawg1]

Jordan Davis - Copiah-Lincoln CC
6'5, 250 lbs. DE
4*

Signed with Bama out of high school

Offers: Alabama, Tennessee, Colorado, Nebraska, Oregon

https://247sports.com/Player/Jordan-Davis-91082/

[Jack Lambert]

Jordan Davis - Copiah-Lincoln CC
6'5, 250 lbs. DE
4*

Signed with Bama out of high school

Offers: Alabama, Tennessee, Colorado, Nebraska, Oregon

https://247sports.com/Player/Jordan-Davis-91082/

247 Crystal Ball must have gotten broken.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Can we change the subject line to be something a bit more descriptive

******* Signing Day - Dec 2019 *********

[Lord McBuckethead]

Nice. Must have been one of those magic 8 balls that gets stuck.

[Jack Lambert]

First signee:

Ben Key - East Los Angeles College
6'5, 280 lbs. DT
3*

Offers: Oregon, Arizona, Utah

Make you wonder what kind of Voodoo Mojo Coach Moorhead has.

[KOdawg1]

Rodney Groce - Pleasant Grove High School
6'1, 240 lbs. MLB
3*

Offers: Nebraska, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia Tech, UK, Ole Miss, Oklahoma

https://247sports.com/Player/Rodney-Groce-Jr-46051888/

[Bubb Rubb]

Make you wonder what kind of Voodoo Mojo Coach Moorhead has.

He's a helluva recruiter. I wish he was a better coach.

[Scared_Hitless]

Good to see some impact D-Lineman coming in. Key and Davis are immediate contributors.

[Bubb Rubb]

Good to see some impact D-Lineman coming in. Key and Davis are immediate contributors.

Key needs a redshirt year. He will probably get it.

[Jack Lambert]

He's a helluva recruiter. I wish he was a better coach.

It's not over. He may learn. Dabo almost got fired two times until he learned.

[Tbonewannabe]

Rodney Groce - Pleasant Grove High School
6'1, 240 lbs. MLB
3*

Offers: Nebraska, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia Tech, UK, Ole Miss, Oklahoma

https://247sports.com/Player/Rodney-Groce-Jr-46051888/

Just guessing from the offer sheet and our possible LB depth if Errol and Gay leave but this guy might be in the rotation next year.

[StateDawg44]

Forbes said he was signing today at 9 CST correct?

[KOdawg1]

Forbes said he was signing today at 9 CST correct?

Correct

[HancockCountyDog]

Just guessing from the offer sheet and our possible LB depth if Errol and Gay leave but this guy might be in the rotation next year.

I don't think we expect Groce to make an immediate impact.

[Scared_Hitless]

I don't think we expect Groce to make an immediate impact.

I think Wheat is the insurance for next season. Groce has a nice offer sheet though so hopefully he gets a redshirt year and develops.

[KOdawg1]

Calvin McMillian - Houston High School
6'5, 300 lbs. OL
3*

Offers: Indiana, Tennessee, USM

https://247sports.com/player/calvin-mcmillian-46059086/

[Dawgface]

It's not over. He may learn. Dabo almost got fired two times until he learned.

We can only hope. I would love to eat crow.

[KOdawg1]

In other signing day news, Josiah Hayes, a 4* DT out of Horn Lake and one of OM's highest rated recruits, just kicked the Rebels in the nuts and signed with Kentucky. Hilarious.

[HailStateSZN19]

In other signing day news, Josiah Hayes, a 4* DT out of Horn Lake and one of OM's highest rated recruits, just kicked the Rebels in the nuts and signed with Kentucky. Hilarious.

To steal the words of Brandon Walker, "That's so delicious I might not eat for a week!" LOL. Wonder if Jak Brown is going to stick with them now.....

[KOdawg1]

To steal the words of Brandon Walker, "That's so delicious I might not eat for a week!" LOL. Wonder if Jak Brown is going to stick with them now.....

Rumor is that they're not retaining MacIntyre (which is stupid btw) so it wouldn't surprise me for their defensive recruits to at least wait until Feb or even jump ship altogether

[confucius say]

Heath tweets he is signing with MSU

[Irondawg]

Going to be interesting to see how some of our decisions play out b/c there are guys signing with SEC schools from the state that we didn't really pursue much like Hayes. Supposed he doesn't fit the mold we look for in a DT so we'll see how it works out.

[confucius say]

In other signing day news, Josiah Hayes, a 4* DT out of Horn Lake and one of OM's highest rated recruits, just kicked the Rebels in the nuts and signed with Kentucky. Hilarious.

Was he just never interested in us?

[KOdawg1]

Was he just never interested in us?

Supposedly, we weren't that interested in him. He's not the tallest, but I would've at least considered bringing him in for an OV.

[vv83]

Forbes said he was signing today at 9 CST correct?

This get pushed back?

[StateDawg44]

I have no clue

[KOdawg1]

This get pushed back?

just announced

[confucius say]

Forbes signed

[drummerdawg]

Did we lose someone? Yesterday we were ranked 22nd with 21 commits, but right now we're down to 24th with 20 commits.

[msstate7]

Forbes signed

Outstanding. This is the guy I really wanted

[KOdawg1]

Emmanuel Forbes - Grenada High School
6'2, 170 lbs. CB
4*

Offers: Ole Miss, Nebraska, Tennessee, Memphis

https://247sports.com/Player/Emmanuel-Forbes-46080858/

[vv83]

Did we lose someone? Yesterday we were ranked 22nd with 21 commits, but right now we're down to 24th with 20 commits.

Dolcine was dropped. Signed with FAU

[KOdawg1]

Did we lose someone? Yesterday we were ranked 22nd with 21 commits, but right now we're down to 24th with 20 commits.

Johnquarise Patterson, JUCO WR from Hinds CC has been removed from the list. Mutual split

[Scared_Hitless]

I really hope we sign a full class this year, as we will be forced to undersign the next two years. Not sure who is left on the board though.

[StateDawg44]

Outstanding. This is the guy I really wanted

Agreed. I'd love to see Decamerion Richardson sign also.

I keep up with recruiting but know nothing about evaluating a player. I just think he would be a player.

[Coach34]

Forbes is going to be a good player but will have to RS. He might weigh 163 pounds in full gear- including his helmet.

[StateDawg44]

Dolcine was dropped. Signed with FAU

Previously, Dolcine's name wasn't listed under our list of 'commits' on 247.

Although if you went to his profile it said he was committed to us. Not sure how that works.

[Scared_Hitless]

Looks like Wheat is wavering cannot miss on him, we need LB depth and possibly starters.

[Dawgology]

Did we lose someone? Yesterday we were ranked 22nd with 21 commits, but right now we're down to 24th with 20 commits.

Its what i thought would happen which is why I have stayed silent about this class ranking. Several programs picked up some unexpected commits which will bump us down. Probably be lucky to stay in top 25.

[confucius say]

Forbes is going to be a good player but will have to RS. He might weigh 163 pounds in full gear- including his helmet.

Good. Reminds me of dantzler that way.

We should redshirt everybody we possibly can.

[Bubb Rubb]

Looks like Wheat is wavering cannot miss on him, we need LB depth and possibly starters.

We are good on Wheat.

[confucius say]

Previously, Dolcine's name wasn't listed under our list of 'commits' on 247.

Although if you went to his profile it said he was committed to us. Not sure how that works.

Got ya. It was not dolcine though that changed the commitment number since yesterday, it was Patterson.

[shoeless joe]

Forbes is going to be a good player but will have to RS. He might weigh 163 pounds in full gear- including his helmet.

If he’s the kid I’m thinking of...that played 3rd on their baseball team the last few years...he absolutely needs to add some weight. he walked out on the diamond with a huge chip on his shoulder, hopefully he approaches football the same way.

[KOdawg1]

Grant Jackson - West Lincoln School
6'6, 305 lbs. OL
3 *

Offers: FSU, ULL, La Tech, Ark St.

https://247sports.com/player/grant-jackson-46057261/

[trob115]

What is the story with Braden Smith ? Were we not interested ?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

How did we pass on Jimmy Holiday? He's signed with Tennessee and I know they aren't giving him a shot at QB.

[PMDawg]

Is Marks signing today?

[KOdawg1]

Is Marks signing today?

Should be

[ejdallas322]

Saw that we dropped Johnquarise Patterson

[ejdallas322]

If we can sign abt all of them today that gives us so much time to go after the late signing 4 stars

[StateDawg44]

Got ya. It was not dolcine though that changed the commitment number since yesterday, it was Patterson.

Yeah that's what I was saying. He wasn't counted in the original 21 because he wasn't actually listed under our commits.

[confucius say]

Marks is in

[KOdawg1]

Jo'Quavious Marks - Carver High School
5'10, 190 lbs. RB
4*

Offers: Wisconsin, Bama, Auburn, Arkansas, Florida, FSU, Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, Texas A&M, Miami

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/JoQuavious-Marks-104407/RecruitInterests/

[StateDawg44]

Big time right there.

[msstate7]

Good job by Moorhead getting the committed guys to sign

[KOdawg1]

Jevon Banks - Olive Branch High School
6'2, 260 lbs. DE/DT
3*

Offers: Memphis, Nebraska, Tennessee

https://247sports.com/Player/Jevon-Banks-46053878/

[sscjr1]

According to 247, all 22 commitments have signed, just haven't all been announced

[HoopsDawg]

All 22 are in. Got 2 months to sign 3-4 more. Need a LB, OL and best available.

[BeardoMSU]

According to 247, all 22 commitments have signed, just haven't all been announced

Helluva job by the staff locking this down.

[PMDawg]

Nice! Now we have a #2 RB for next year.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Helluva job by the staff locking this down.

Agreed...Look good in the bowl, finish out the class strong, make a few staff changes, and momentum could start swinging the right way for JoMo.

[timotheus]

crap I hope. fingers crossed

[CovertDawg]

Most drama free signing day I can remember. Props to the coaches and all the recruiting operations crew.

[Scared_Hitless]

This is a solid balanced class nice job Joe and staff. Need to make sure to go grab a few more if possible.

[confucius say]

22? I thought it was supposed to be 20 plus the asu transfer kicker. Who is the 22nd, decamerion Richardson?

[defiantdog]

22? I thought it was supposed to be 20 plus the asu transfer kicker. Who is the 22nd, decamerion Richardson?
Yes

[sscjr1]

22? I thought it was supposed to be 20 plus the asu transfer kicker. Who is the 22nd, decamerion Richardson?

Yes

[msstate7]

Sec rankings (commits/signees)
1. Bama (25)
2. LSU (22)
3. aTm (22)
4. Georgia (16)
5. Auburn (22)
6. Florida (24)
7. Tenn (21)
8. SC (19)
9. Kentucky (19)
10. State (20)
11. OM (17)
12. Vandy (15)
13. Mizzou (12)
14. Ark (8)

Rankings using avg per recruit:
1. Georgia
2. Bama
3. LSU
4. aTm
5. Auburn
6. Florida
7. Tenn
8. SC
9. Kentucky
10. State
11. OM
12. Mizzou
13. Ark
14. Vandy

[defiantdog]

Sec rankings (commits/signees)
1. Bama (25)
2. LSU (22)
3. aTm (22)
4. Georgia (16)
5. Auburn (22)
6. Florida (24)
7. Tenn (21)
8. SC (19)
9. Kentucky (19)
10. State (20)
11. OM (17)
12. Vandy (15)
13. Mizzou (12)
14. Ark (8)

Rankings using avg per recruit:
1. Georgia
2. Bama
3. LSU
4. aTm
5. Auburn
6. Florida
7. Tenn
8. SC
9. Kentucky
10. State
11. OM
12. Mizzou
13. Ark
14. Vandy

This list doesn't change much every year

[confucius say]

Yes

Nice add. comes in as one of the fastest kid on the team. 10.75 in the 100 meter at the track and field championships.

[Scared_Hitless]

This list doesn't change much every year

Kentucky catching us in recruiting is going to make our cross divisional game much tougher every year. They have good coaching and now they have built on that foundation. More of a toss up game now.

[msstate7]

This list doesn't change much every year

You're right. aTm and Kentucky have moved up some. We need to find a way to around to 7-8

[Scared_Hitless]

You're right. aTm and Kentucky have moved up some. We need to find a way to around to 7-8

KY elevating to the 25 range is the only current implication I see. They were a 40s or 50s team when Stoops arrived. Gotta give them credit they are building like we did with Dan. Bowl games and consistency.

[Bubb Rubb]

This is a solid balanced class nice job Joe and staff. Need to make sure to go grab a few more if possible.

If we had gotten Jak Brown and McKinnley Jackson, it would have been a perfect class.

We need to find a LB or two, and an OL or two before the February deadline. And another DL wouldn't hurt.

[Bdawg]

Forbes is going to be a good player but will have to RS. He might weigh 163 pounds in full gear- including his helmet.

Ha I saw a pic and his legs were definitely tooth picks. Not downing the kid. Glad to have him. Just needs a weight room.

[KOdawg1]

Also not related to MSU but Davonta Jason (Whop) has signed his LOI and is transferring to Nicholls State

[msstate7]

Also not related to MSU but Davonta Jason (Whop) has signed his LOI and is transferring to Nicholls State

Wow, I remember really being excited about this kid. Best of luck to him

[ShotgunDawg]

Wow, I remember really being excited about this kid. Best of luck to him

I was never very excited about him. Remember turning on his film & thinking he had really heavy feet. Slow

[HancockCountyDog]

I was never very excited about him. Remember turning on his film & thinking he had really heavy feet. Slow

Huh?

[KOdawg1]

Wow, I remember really being excited about this kid. Best of luck to him

We've probably hurt some feelings with the people in that area of Louisiana with the way things happened with Whop and KT, but it is what it is. Whop couldn't make it on the field with our group of WRs (which is saying something), and KT just didn't fit the new system. Best of luck to both of them.

[Technetium]

Interesting to revisit the collective thoughts on Whop. The difficulties in projecting production from HS to CFB is obvious.

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?63117-Whop&highlight=Whop%2C+Devonta

[Coursesuper]

Also not related to MSU but Davonta Jason (Whop) has signed his LOI and is transferring to Nicholls State

Quote from WR coach at Nicholls " He's more of a TE type, to slow."

[AmiteDog]

Interesting to revisit the collective thoughts on Whop. The difficulties in projecting production from HS to CFB is obvious.

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?63117-Whop&highlight=Whop%2C+Devonta

Lots of dreams about Whop high pointing the ball in that thread. whoops

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

We've probably hurt some feelings with the people in that area of Louisiana with the way things happened with Whop and KT, but it is what it is. Whop couldn't make it on the field with our group of WRs (which is saying something), and KT just didn't fit the new system. Best of luck to both of them.

Which is unfortunate, as we could possibly fill some WR needs down there. Mike Detillier said on Bo Bounds several times the number of WR's that came out Louisiana over the last 5 years was more than Mississippi, Alabama, and Tennessee combined. I cant remember the total, but it was impressive.

[trob115]

What is the story with Braden Smith ? Were we not interested ?

Anyone?

[ShotgunDawg]

Huh?

Yeah. Heavy feet means you're slow. Pretty easy to see on film. You should try it sometimes.

[TheLostDawg]

What's the news of Griffin?

[vv83]

I still don't get why we aren't doing a sign and place with Alex Adams

[ShotgunDawg]

I still don't get why we aren't doing a sign and place with Alex Adams

With the new 25 signee hard cap, the sign & place is no longer useful. Particularly with the amount of grad transfers now available.

Would you rather sign & place Adams with 1 of our 25 scholarships or sign 23 players & then get two grad transfers at positions of need?

Can't have both

[bulldawg28]

We've probably hurt some feelings with the people in that area of Louisiana with the way things happened with Whop and KT, but it is what it is. Whop couldn't make it on the field with our group of WRs (which is saying something), and KT just didn't fit the new system. Best of luck to both of them.

Did KT sign somewhere else?

[CJDAWG85]

Did KT sign somewhere else?

I haven't seen anything about him transferring at this point. Not saying he won't or anything.

[chef dixon]

Yeah. Heavy feet means you're slow. Pretty easy to see on film. You should try it sometimes.

You literally said something similar on here recently and someone posted a link of you praising Whop as a stud a couple years ago. I love message boards.

[bulldawg28]

I haven't seen anything about him transferring at this point. Not saying he won't or anything.

I'm starting to believe he's in it for the long haul.

[KOdawg1]

Did KT sign somewhere else?

No but he's going to transfer

[dawgday166]

You literally said something similar on here recently and someone posted a link of you praising Whop as a stud a couple years ago. I love message boards.

No way dude ... Shotgun never does stuff like that *** (Other than like ... all the time haha).

[HancockCountyDog]

Yeah. Heavy feet means you're slow. Pretty easy to see on film. You should try it sometimes.

So after he flamed out you were able to discern that he was slow. Way to go Mayock.

You thought he would have an immediate impact, I?m too lazy to post all your posts about him, but let?s just say your analysis of the impact Whop would make was way off.

[msstate7]

LSU (even with all their passing success this year) took it on the chin with WRs today...

5-star flip to Maryland
High 4-star flip to Georgia

[Jack Lambert]

LSU (even with all their passing success this year) took it on the chin with WRs today...

5-star flip to Maryland
High 4-star flip to Georgia

How many are they losing from the current roster?

[Jack Lambert]

LSU (even with all their passing success this year) took it on the chin with WRs today...

5-star flip to Maryland
High 4-star flip to Georgia

Maryland? That is worse then losing one to KY.

[msstate7]

How many are they losing from the current roster?

Jefferson, maybe. Marshall and chase are sophomores

[Jack Lambert]

Jefferson, maybe. Marshall and chase are sophomores

So one more year for those guys. You have to figure it would be harder to recruit to a position you are deep in. How about Moss?

[BrunswickDawg]

LSU (even with all their passing success this year) took it on the chin with WRs today...

5-star flip to Maryland
High 4-star flip to Georgia

Yeah, but the Gilbert kid they got from Marietta is a beast. He balled out in the Ga 7A title game last week. My BIL taught him in middle school - good kid.

[msstate7]

So one more year for those guys. You have to figure it would be harder to recruit to a position you are deep in. How about Moss?

Jr

[msstate7]

Yeah, but the Gilbert kid they got from Marietta is a beast. He balled out in the Ga 7A title game last week. My BIL taught him in middle school - good kid.

I'm sure he is. 3 beasts are better than 1 though

[TheLostDawg]

What's the news of Griffin?

Signed

[Turfdawg67]

Which is unfortunate, as we could possibly fill some WR needs down there. Mike Detillier said on Bo Bounds several times the number of WR's that came out Louisiana over the last 5 years was more than Mississippi, Alabama, and Tennessee combined. I cant remember the total, but it was impressive.

Kids have short memories. If recruits looked at our past DLs in the pros, we'd be higher on the pecking order. Conversely, if they looked at our RB success at the next level we might not get a Hill or Marks.

[bulldawg28]

No but he's going to transfer

When? He's missing the early signing period.

[RougeDawg]

Maybe my math is off but how is ranked 10th in the SEC the definition of a strong recruiter? Are we saying we would be dead last without the great recruiter?

[msstate7]

Maybe my math is off but how is ranked 10th in the SEC the definition of a strong recruiter? Are we saying we would be dead last without the great recruiter?

I really don't get the label myself. We finished ahead of vandy and the 3 sec teams that fired their coaches

[Todd4State]

Maybe my math is off but how is ranked 10th in the SEC the definition of a strong recruiter? Are we saying we would be dead last without the great recruiter?

Let's be honest- recruiting rankings are not an objective rating system. Dean, Cooley, and Banks should be four star players.

Personally I look at the caliber of the players that we are recruiting and factor in how they fit in with our team.

Dan not making sure every position group was filled probably cost us at least one win a year. And a big reason why we struggled against ranked teams for years.

[Tbonewannabe]

I really don't get the label myself. We finished ahead of vandy and the 3 sec teams that fired their coaches

Finishing behind SCe and UK is not a "great recruiter". He is pretty much adequate as far as SEC standards. Then there is a big jump to the next level of SEC teams who are all in the top 10. Mullen is proving that you don't have to be a good recruiter if you are at a school that recruits for you.

[Jack Lambert]

I really don't get the label myself. We finished ahead of vandy and the 3 sec teams that fired their coaches

Here is another way of looking at it. There are 64 P5 schools. We finish 25th out of that group. We would be 5th in the ACC. We would be 3rd in the Big 12. 5th in the big 10. 3rd in the Pac 12. My numbers might be off a little but not much.

[dawgday166]

Here is another way of looking at it. There are 64 P5 schools. We finish 25th out of that group. We would be 5th in the ACC. We would be 3rd in the Big 12. 5th in the big 10. 3rd in the Pac 12. My numbers might be off a little but not much.

Jack .. that's a good way to look at it. How do we move our conference membership over to the B12 or B1G so Joe's offense can compete better? ****

[Jack Lambert]

Jack .. that's a good way to look at it. How do we move our conference membership over to the B12 or B1G so Joe's offense can compete better? ****

I don't know but I suspect we would do a little better in the other conferences. These SEC defenses are pretty tough.

[HancockCountyDog]

Here is another way of looking at it. There are 64 P5 schools. We finish 25th out of that group. We would be 5th in the ACC. We would be 3rd in the Big 12. 5th in the big 10. 3rd in the Pac 12. My numbers might be off a little but not much.

Yeah - but that is always the case. Only problem is that we don't get to play in the other P5 conferences.

Of all the things that I am pissed at CJM right now, this year's recruiting class isn't one of them. It was a dreadful in state crop. Very few playmakers. Very few impact players. I mean, I would like to be in on McKinley Jackson and the Pegues kid from Oxford, but other than those two I just thought the in-state class was the worst in a very long time.

Our recruiting base is MS, if that is down - our recruiting class will be down. I wish we weren't so dependent, but it is simply a fact. Our best classes have been when the state was loaded.

We need to expand our footprint, but for now we are really dependent on what MS produces.

[Scared_Hitless]

https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/LongFormArticle/Meet-Mississippi-State-quarterback-signee-Will-Rogers--140830038/#140830038_2

Articles like this are why people think Moorhead can recruit. I do not think it will ever mean top 10 classes at MSU, but look at this season no decommits and the commits were locked in on signing early. If he can get the offense and S&C working we may have some fun with Joe yet.

[Jack Lambert]

Yeah - but that is always the case. Only problem is that we don't get to play in the other P5 conferences.

Of all the things that I am pissed at CJM right now, this year's recruiting class isn't one of them. It was a dreadful in state crop. Very few playmakers. Very few impact players. I mean, I would like to be in on McKinley Jackson and the Pegues kid from Oxford, but other than those two I just thought the in-state class was the worst in a very long time.

Our recruiting base is MS, if that is down - our recruiting class will be down. I wish we weren't so dependent, but it is simply a fact. Our best classes have been when the state was loaded.

We need to expand our footprint, but for now we are really dependent on what MS produces.

I was just pointing out. How I see it with Bama, LSU, Auburn, GA and Florida we will never be top five in the SEC in regards to recruiting. However I do think we should never be out side the top 8. Just my opinion. 10th is not good enough for me but I do agree that when the crop in Miss is down we will be lower.

[NCDawg]

I was just pointing out. How I see it with Bama, LSU, Auburn, GA and Florida we will never be top five in the SEC in regards to recruiting. However I do think we should never be out side the top 8. Just my opinion. 10th is not good enough for me but I do agree that when the crop in Miss is down we will be lower.

Tough winning the SEC West when 4 SECW teams are in the top 10 in the nation in recruiting.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Yeah - but that is always the case. Only problem is that we don't get to play in the other P5 conferences.

Of all the things that I am pissed at CJM right now, this year's recruiting class isn't one of them. It was a dreadful in state crop. Very few playmakers. Very few impact players. I mean, I would like to be in on McKinley Jackson and the Pegues kid from Oxford, but other than those two I just thought the in-state class was the worst in a very long time.

Our recruiting base is MS, if that is down - our recruiting class will be down. I wish we weren't so dependent, but it is simply a fact. Our best classes have been when the state was loaded.

We need to expand our footprint, but for now we are really dependent on what MS produces.

Looking at early 2021 numbers, we have more offers to Georgia than any other state. I just don't understand why we aren't trying to tap into Louisiana more.

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USC has the #79 class in the country. What. The. Hell!